When I wrote post related to LIC’s recent bonus declaration, I flooded with lot of quarries related to Jeevan Saral plan. Why so much confusion about this plan? Is it due to few new features of this plan or exaggerated returns shown by agents? I think both. So let us understand what this plan is and how you can calculate your returns.

This plan is different to other plans of LIC in case of accumulation what LIC provides, sum assured calculation and about surrender. Also I think this is highest selling plan in LIC after Jeevan Anand. I am not going in detail about plan feature but will point out the highlights.

- In this plan you can choose your premium amount which is not possible with other plans. Minimum monthly contribution in this plan is Rs.250.
- Sum Assured will be 250 times of your monthly premium payment. Hence suppose your monthly contribution is Rs.1,000 then sum assured will be Rs.2,50,000. You may call this benefit as “
**death benefit sum assured**” as this benefit is only meant for deaths. Hence don’t misunderstand that Sum Assured is the amount you get after maturity (which is the case with other plans). Hence I will call it as**Death Benefit SA**or**DBS**. So this option is bit advantages for age old buyers as irrespective of your age this DBS is fixed on your premium payment but not on your age and term you selected. This is not the case with other plans of LIC. So two persons paying same premium but age different is around 30 yrs then too they will get the same sum assured benefit under this plan. - In this plan if death occurs during the policy period then your nominee will receive this Death Benefit SA+Return of premiums paid (but excluding 1st year premium)+LA till that period.
- Now the biggest confusion arises is, what you will receive after the maturity. Usually in all LIC policies you will receive Sum Assured+Accrued Bonus+Final Additional Bonus if any. But in this plan depending on your age and term of the policy your sum assured which is also called as
**Maturity Sum Assured**will change. So during the period of taking this policy you will come to know what is your Maturity Sum Assured you will receive at the end of policy. This is fixed and will not change during the policy term. Will show you how to calculate it.

In this plan their are two types of premiums. One is called **Basic Premium** and another is called **Net Premium**. Basic premium is the base premium without adding any cost, but Net Premium is the premium which you actually pay to LIC and includes premium mode rebate (rebate of 2% for yearly and 1% for half yearly payment)+charges for providing you the death benefit SA (@1% DBS). Below table will give you the clear picture about this.

Note-Death Benefit SA charges are arrived as below-

Yearly premium of Rs.3,000 is divided into 12 and then multiplied by 250 times this will be (3,000/12)*250=62,500. This is the DAB and charges for this will be @1 hence Rs.62.

Now notice from above table that basic premium is nothing but base premium but net premium will add rebate and costs of this plan (which includes mode rebate and DAB charges @1%).

If it is so confusing to you then the simple formula to come to net premium will be multiply your basic premium by the factor **1.00083** this will result into net premium which you need to pay to LIC.

**Now what you will get after maturity?**

In this plan you will receive Maturity Sum Assured which is fixed and known to you in advance during the start of the policy once your age and term you chose. With this Maturity Sum Assured LIC will also provide you Loyalty Additions. This Loyalty Addition will be declared annually and currently LIC declared Loyalty Addition (LA) for 10 yrs and 11 yrs of policies only and which are Rs.250 and Rs.300 respectively. Based on this declaration we may presume the returns from this policy which hover around 6-7%. But for 10 yrs policy it is just around 3-4%.

**How to calculate Maturity Sum Assured yourself?**

LIC provided Basic Maturity Sum Assured list for the premium of Rs.100 per month for all ages. So just you need to select your age and policy term then multiply that to your **Basic Premium**. ย I am working on this chart and soon will upload the whole Basic Maturity Sum Assured Chart.

- Surrender Value-Their are three types of surrender values under this plan. To avail these option policy need to complete atleast 3 years.

a) Guaranteed Surrender Value-In this you will receive 30% ย of total premiums paid excluding 1st year premium, all extra premiums and accident benefit/term rider premiums.

b) Special Surrender Value-It will be of 1+2 options given below.

1) 80% of MSA will be paid if less than 4 years premium paid, 90% of MSA if between 4 to less than 5 years of premium paid and 100% of MSA if premiums are paid for 5 years or more.

2) Loyalty Addition till that period.

c) Can be made anytime after completion of 3 years or more from the start of the policy provided full premiums are paid.

So surrender will be bit easier once policy completes 5 yrs or more which is not the case with other LIC plans.

Hope this post will make easier in understanding this plan.

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Hi Good Evening Sir,

I have seen quite a few advice from you for others and I do appreciate your time.

Need a help on the policy which I took couple of years back.

Policy name – Jeevan Saral with Profits

Table – 165

Term – 20

Maturity sum assured – 10,00,000

Premium method – Yearly

Premiums paid – 5

First premium – Dec 2012

Premium – Rs. 48,040.00

Next Premium due – Dec 2017

Policy Status – Active

The main reason for me to start this policy was to save money & avoid tax on the other hand so I spoke to an agent who said this policy should suite my needs, I specifically asked him if i need to close the policy any time will I get my money back? He answered yes however, would need to wait for 3 years.

Post 3 years when I spoke to customer service they said I would loose some money if I cancel, and advised to complete 5 years for some benefits.

Now, I have paid all 5 premiums which is 48,040*5=2,40,200 & when I checked with customer service they advised me that I wouldn’t get the complete amount. I feel like getting fooled as I am loosing my hard earned money. I think I heard saying I would get only 1,80,000 if i cancel.

Please advise is it best to cancel policy or is there any way for me to get my complete money if i extend for 10 years for loyalty benefits. If I also extend for 10 years I am afraid as i may not get 48040*10=4,80,400. Kindly advice.

Regards,

Mark Sabastian

[email protected]

9886699593

Mark-Better to discontinue. You asked for SAVING and TAX BENEFITS to your agent. So he provided that option, but not an INVESTMENT OPTION. Hence, in my view agent not did anything wrong. But it is mis-buying than misselling.

Thank you so much for your feedback, just one thing I need to ask you sir….,

If I ever continue or wait till I cover my complete tenure, is there any benefits for this policy or will I still lose my money. Please suggest.

Mark-You will not lose money but end up with less returns.

Can you tell me how much would I get if I continue for next 5 years, which is ten years in total please.

Sorry to be a pain but your inputs will make me to take decision.

Mark-I can’t tell the exact figures. But returns will be around 5% to 6%.

When you say 5 to 6 percent, is it my total premiums paid for ten years with 5 to 6 percent approx additional or am I missing some thing else?

Mark-It is 5% to 6% on your total premium paid over the period of time.

dear sir,

i have bought a jeevan saral policy on 22/2/2011 for a period of 20 years. firstly it was monthly plan of rs. 5104 and thereafter changed to quarterly amount of rs. 15,312. sum assured was 12,5000/- . date of birth is 26/10/1983.

sir, i am really sorry to state that being very poor in calculations, i need your expert advice. my querries are :

1. what amount will i get at the end of 20 years.

2. what amount will i get if i surrender it now ( already 5 years over)

3. should i continue here or invest it in mutual funds.

please advice. no one is helping me out. and you have been so kind in answering everyone’s doubts. the lic agent isnt helping out sincerely. thanks sir in advance.

sorry sir, sum assured is 12,50,000/-

Siba-Refer above post and around 1000 comments. You will come to know the answer.

my premium is 3062 per quarter ( I think net premium) …. SA is 2.5 lacs ….. term is 20 years… i bought it in Dec 2010 … What would be my return after maturity in year 2030 ? can you elaborate with a chart or breakup amount.

Saha-Elaborated already in above post and if you go through the comments, then you can understand the return expectation from this plan (around 5% to 6%).

I invested Rs 24020/- for 3 years till Dec 2016.Recently I have taken a term plan also for 50lakhs from LIC. I am investing in PPF also.I am very much confused whether to divert this premium amount towards ELSS fund or continue with the policy till 11 years or 25 years.My policy term is 25 years.The maturity sum assured is around Rs7.5 lakhs in policy bond.

Amar-What prompted you to buy this product and why you now feeling this to close?

Actually I was not so investment conscious about my investment portfolio at that time as i was not coming in any tax bracket.Now, I am in 20 % tax bracket.At that time I was not aware of Term plan and also was not comfortable in investing any Private Companies.I used to deposit in only PPF. At that time I was feeling i am short of Insurance and hence bought this policy without keeping any perspective in mind that I am taking this policy for Investment or Insurance.Now , when I am trying to take advise from others.Some are advising me to surrender and some say the policy is good you should continue for at least 10 years. I am 34 now and dont want to take any wrong step related to investment and insurance and ruin my later years. I request you to kindly advise whether to continue investing in this policy or discontinue.I really dont mind investing also if I am supposed to get better returns.As, today I feel I am adequately insured as far as Insurance is concerned in comparison to my annual package as I am having another Limited endowment policy of 2 lakhs also from LIC and also insured by my employer for approx 15-18 lakhs.I will be taking your advise as the final call for this policy as I dont wont to linger on with this policy as I have already invested 1.5 lakhs for my Income tax rebate by investing in PPF, PF , LIC(Limited endowment plan) and LIC e term( Cover of 50 lakhs). I have tried enquiring from lot of people related to its return part also. No one is able to give a clear picture in this regard also.

Amar-If you have adequate insurance then why you retaining this dummy product? It is your money. Therefore you judge which BEST to you. Hence, never rely on anyone nor listen to those who suggest you based on their opportunity in your investment (agents). Act fastly and close all such dummy products.

One last question. Should I see this product on investment perspective or Insurance, In case on Investment then what rough percentage can be expected on this product.As this product is giving me only 5 lakh on insurance front and 10 lakh on accidental.

As I have an option of diverting his fund towards NPS and claim 2 lakh of income tax rebate instead of 1.5 lakh in coming financial year.

Incase I am closing this product this year I will booking loss of around 30000/- which I dont mind if I get returns by investing in long term.

Thanking you in advance.

Amar-For 10 years of investment and return 5% to 6% enough for you? Is so, then continue. If you consider this product as insurance, then think how long your dependents survive with the death claim amount they receive from this product.

Thanks a ton for your advise.Will be applying for surrendering in this scenario.

You should seek investments in mutual funds through SIP for wealth generation and buy term insurance for pure insurance need.

I have a Jeevan Tarang plan of 10 years policy term. I want to surrender this policy on the 9th year after paying 36 premiums (quarterly payment mode). What is the formula to surrender? I want to know how much I will get.

Kevi-Check with LIC branch.

Hey mate, you have been doing a fabulous job of explaining the intricacies of the Saral Policy. I have been hurt the same with almost paying through the roof per year premium paying in saral. The LIC and their agents just care about their bottom line. They gave wrong charts and return values when they were getting people onto buying their policy. Why can’t they be put behind bar for wrong selling of policies with wrong information.

Sachin-Sadly none come forward and prove that they wrongly sold.

Dear Sir, I was opened policy jeevan saral 165 plan 22 year in sept-2013 , 25473/- Half yearly. at that time misguide & show me higher return by LIC agent & open this policy. Now I want to surrender this policy after 4 year.

My query is the following question?

1) If continue this policy to full maturity (22year), what is amount I will get?

2) If I surrender this policy after 4 year than how much amount I will get?

3) Can I rest policy after 4 year without pay premium till maturity & after maturity how much I can get.

I want higher return but with this policy I cant get.

please give me proper calculation & suggestion.

Regards

Shankar baghele

Shankar-I already replied all such queries in below comments. Please go through them.

Hi Basavaraj,

I have a query regarding my LIC Jeeval Saral Policy Table no 165. Bought this policy on 28/12/2009 (misguided with the chart which agent showed me) at age 26 Policy term -30 years Premium -72780 yearly (approx 6000 per month) Death Benefit Sum Assured 15Lac. I have already paid for 7 years : approx 5 Lacs. I have also taken loan on this policy last year (May 2015) Loan amount 285000. I have made up my mind to surrender this policy as policy is not good and I am unable to pay premium. Question is should I surrender right now or should i wait for the completion of 10 years for this policy

1. I want to know if it is good idea to hold this policy for 10 years completion (until Dec 2019) so that I get Loyalty addition.

2. What amount I can expect to get in return from this policy after 10 years completion

3. How loan will be handled in this case. Will LIC deduct Loan and interest at the time of surrender. I found that they have already charged 30K interest for 6 months on loan amount of 2,85,000 which is very disappointing. This interest will be charged every six months. I am confused if it is good idea to hold until Dec2019(as holding also means more interest on associated policy loan). But even if I surrender now, I have huge loss.

Really need an advice. Please help!

LICBuyer-1) You can surrender now also.

2) Check with LIC.

3) Yes, they deduct all outstanding loan and interest on that before paying you the surrender value.

Thanks for your prompt response. Regarding surrender or holding for 10 year(to get LA) which one will better suit me. What approx LA LIC usually provides?

LICBuyer-I prefer surrender over holding. Check with LIC for LA rates.

Thanks you. you are going a good work in helping people. Genuine advice. Appreciate your efforts!

Hello,

i have take jeevan saral policy in november 2009, paying premiun of Rs 48040/- yearly.

Clearly understood that the chart agent showed is misguiding.

Currently i have invested 336000 in total whose surrender value is 316000 right now.

What will be the better option—

1) book loss of 20000 and surrender immediately

2) stop paying premiums and keep the policy active for 3 more years and redeem after completing 10 years of policy so that i am eligible for LA/bonus.

3) pay premiums for 3 more years and then surrender the policy after completing 10 years of policy to avail LA/bonus.

In any case if i surrender i am planning to buy jeevan anand policy for approximate same amount for a period of approximate 30 years.

Sachin-First one.

Thank you ver much.

Can u guide me the base for booking loss ?

i mean why did you suggest me to book loss and surrender it..

In case if i reciveLA of rs250 for every 1000, i can get 120000 as LA along with 480000 (total of premium paid)

Sorry I have paid 386000 and current surrender value is 316000…so lot of loss..

And I have 3 such policies–mine,sisters n cousins..so lot of loss–a total of 2.1lakhs..

Sachin-Your loss will be more when you extend. You can compensate the current loss by wisely investing.

Hello,

I have taken jeevan saral plan dec 2011. and i wand u surrender now. But LIC Agent is saying that.

25000*10 = 250000

Your balance Amount is 250000-85000 = 165000rs

Thanks & Regs.

Ranjan

9999818188

Ranjan-Don’t believe agents. Go to LIC branch and enquire.

Sir,

I have completed 6 years of Jeevan saral 20 yr term plan paying of Rs.6406/- quarterly (i.e. approx Rs. 1,53,744/- till date) as an installment. I want to surrender this policy due to some financial problem, so I visited to Lic office and I took surrender value statement. Surrender value is of Rs.1,24,000/- ( approx loss of Rs.30,000/- ) I don’t know how they calculated surrender value but it’s really shocking to loss of Rs 30 k. now what should I do?

Vaibhav-It is the reality. Either surrender or continue.

I have taken Jeevan saral policy for 20 years in Feb 2011, yearly premium is 12k, need your help in below queries-

1.)If i want to surrender policy after 10 years i.e in 2021 then will i be eligible for loyalty additions as total tenure is 20 years?

2.)Is LIC declares Loyalty additions every year for Jeevan saral?

3.)I bought this policy in Delhi now i moved to Bangalore can i surrender the policy in Bangalore LIC office, If yes what is the process for the same?

Gaurav-1) Yes LA will be payable but based on 10 years but not on 20 years.

2) As of now YES. Not sure about future.

3) NO.

Hello Dear,

Under jeevan saral Im paying 6125 INR as monthly premium. At the age 24 I took this plan. Policy term period is 25 years. Agents show very high figh amount in their chart as maturity. But as i received my policy it is showing maturity sum assured approx 20-21 lacs which is very low as compared to agent. I took this plan on 15/10/2012. Kindly help me out what i will get exactly as maturity amount.

Deepak-You will receive Maturity Sum assured and Loyalty Addition. Read the above post fully and below comments. You will get an idea.

I think the LA will be not given as it is applicable only after 10 years. So if someone continue for 11 years then he will get the LA for last one year not for whole 11 years !!

Rajib-LA is one time payment not for all 10 years or 11 years.

Yes. I understood. Thanks for confirming !!

I purchased Jeeven Saral Policy at the age of 32. I have completed the 6 year of premium. Yearly premium is comes 24500. Agent assured me at the time of purchasing the policy that I get more than 10 Lakhs on the maturity of policy after completion of 16 year. Now it is come to my knowledge through some other agents and friends that the chart shown under this policy is fraud.

Will I continue with this policy or not .What is surrender value of this policy at this time. If I continue, will I get the value actually shown in the chart after 16 years? This question has become more relevant as the policy purchased for meet the expenditure at the time of my daughter weeding.

If I surrender the policy, Can you suggest me some other policy or investment plant to meet expenditure mention above. Now my age is 39.

Ashok-Better to surrender. For surrender value check with LIC branch. You firmly believe that it is a fraud selling. But asking me whether continue or not. The decision is YOUR’s. Without knowing much about you, how can I blindly guide you about investment?

Thanks for your valuable advise. I am going to surrender this policy. Can you suggest me some other investment option. Am i go with SIP, if yes please suggest some plans.

Thanks for your reply.

Ashok-Without knowing much about you, how can I guide the investments?

sir i want to surrender my policy

please guide

policy start 28/03/2011

age when started 27 years

monthly preimium 5014

sir pl tell what amout will get me

Prakash-Check with your nearest LIC branch.

sir what is better option whether i wiil continue the policy or surrender

Prakash-Better to surrender.

Thank u sir

Hi Basavaraj ji,

I have query regarding my LIC Jeevan Saral policy where i completed 7 years with yearly premium of 36030. When i took this policy he showed a T165 chart and assured that i will take 6.5 lacks after completing 10 years.

when i enrolled my age was 23 and now i am 30 years of age.

Need your kind and valuable advice what shall i do, because what i understood that i may not get assured amount as per chart. Is this total fraud ? please advice as i am really worried.

Sheetal-He misguided you and it is not assured return. You may expect around 5% to 6% returns. Better to close the policy at the earliest.

Dear Basavaraj,

I have two JEEVAN SARAL policy.

DOB: 30-04-1986

Policy taken – 2011 February,

Yearly premium=Rs.18000/-(for 30 yrs term) and Rs.6000/-(for 25 yrs term)

Please tell me the amount if I surrender the policy after 10 years completion. Thanks in advance.

Joy-Refer below comments. You will find the answer.

Hello Basavaraj Sir,

i planned for Jeevan saral of Rs750000 with annual premium of 36030.

My agent told me i would be getting around 25lakhs after 20 years, i dont know exact MSA or LA.Even though he has given one pamphlet explaining premium & maturity.

Premium โ 36030 Rs yearly

term of policy โ 20 years

my age 23 years

so pls let me know the actual return after maturity…

2) i have completed 5years, what amount ll i get if i surrender after 5 years..

pls help me out

Suveen-You planned or already bought? If you planned, then you can’t. Because this plan is not available now.

Sir,

I already bought this policy… I have completed 5 years also…. what amount I ‘ll get if I surrender now?

What ‘ll be my maturity amount if I complete full 20years.

Suveen-Contact your LIC branch or refer the below comments.

Basavaraj sir,

1)I have already bought this policy, completed 5 years also..

Premium โ 36030 Rs yearly

term of policy โ 20 years

my age at time of enrollment – 23 years

so pls let me know the actual return after maturityโฆ

2) what amount will i get if i surrender now( 5 years completed)?

Pls help me out

Suveen-Regarding exact amount, contact your LIC branch. Returns may be around 4% to 5%.

respected

tax saving instrument was top savings PPF,NSC, FD, ULIPs,ELSS,. The explain with total returs to 3 0r 5 years pls send

Ramachandran-I am unable to understand your requirement.

Hello,

Please help me on my query as it holds important due to my current financial crunch situation.

I took the ‘LIC Jeevan Saral’ plan started in 2010 for 15 yrs with yearly premium as 25000/. I have already paid for 5 premium terms till 2014 for a sum of nearly 1,25,000/-. But due to i lost my job in 2015 i couldn’t able to pay premium from 2015 & 16. So as i can’t continue this plan due to my bad financial cond. so i want to surrender my policy now after 7 years. So what would be the payout amount to me if i surrender now. I see the current status showing in LIC portal as: “Reduced pay-out.’ Also let me know if i want to pay premium of last year & this year would i asked to pay any penalty?

So kindly update me on my above query. Thnx in advance for your support.

Shakti-Please contact your nearest branch for the same. Yes, if want to continue the plan, then you have to pay the penalty.

Hi Basa,

Thanks for giving quick update. But as i am staying outside of state current for a job search so can’t make to home now.

Its been 6.2 yrs now from the commencement of policy so can you please anticipate what’s the surrender amount i would get where i have paid 1,20000/- for 5 years,i expect to get at par with my total paid premium or little higher from that but not sure. I believe as a financial analyst you can give me at par update if not concrete. Please update me here.

Regards,

Shakti

Shakti-You refer above post and below comments. You will get an idea of how to calculate on your OWN. You no need to be in same state to know the status. Visit nearby LIC branch and get the status.

Bad blog. You don’t answer straight questions

Angel-Yes, because money is not easy thing.

Dear Mr.Basavaraj,

I have taken Jeevan Anand in Feb 2012 with half yearly premium of 52300 approx for 25 yrs with sum assured of 25L at the age of 32yrs.

But after your reviews and lots of search I found that it is better to go for term insurance and balance with other investment as this policy will give max to 6%.

Can you suggest is it better to leave/surrender with Jeevan anand.

Also can you suggest where should I invest the balance.

Sandip-It is better to surrender. But investing the rest of amount depends on your financial goals, which I can’t say plainly.

Hellow Basavaraj,

thanks for such an informative post regarding LIC Jeevan Saral Policy. I am myself struggling to get the clearer picture regarding the Maturity Amount. I purchased this policy @ 24yrs , Single Premium 48040 INR, 5 yrs completed. My policy paper mentions MSA : 1159520 INR (along with Death benifit & Term Rider sumof 10 Lakh each) but in my policy premium receipt its showing MSA = 10Lakh while that confusing chart showing somewhere around 54 Lakh. I think all of us are having this same confusion. I will b happy if i am getting 5-7% interest overall at the end of policy, if not please suggest if i should stop paying further and get whatever i can get back.

Regards

Saurabh negi

[email protected]

Saurabh-If you have doubt about MSA, then contact the branch.

hi my name is pinkal mahajan i am 29 years of age i got this policy at the age of 24. i have been paying 72000rs per year can you please tekk me how much i will get after 35 years. on the chart(165) it says some 22000000rs. but when i contact branch they say something else. please clarify this.

Pinkar-Refer my above post and below comments. You will not get more than 5% return. Rest is left with you to decide.

Hi Basavaraj,

I had taken Jeevan Saral in June 2011 with a monthly premium of Rs 6123/-, which means i am putting Rs 73476 in a year in my Jeevan Saral account. my policy will be completing 5 years by June 2016 and i was thinking weather to continue with it or not because people were telling me that i am paying a very high premium and the returns are not as expected and it is better off to put the money into PPF account where i can have better returns.

so there can be few options that i was thinking about and i am confused:

1. to close the policy after 5 years, could you please tell me what is the amount that i should be getting ?

2. secondly , since its a flexible policy i thought of reducing the Premium amount to Rs 1000 or 1500 per month.

3. surrender policy after 10 years and continue to pay what i am paying at the moment.

i am 42 year old and need to have good investment. let me know what you say.

Regards

Chhavi

Chhavi-1) Contact LIC branch. 2) What is use? 3) It is of no use.

My policy was started on March 2013 and have paid till May 2015 without interruption. Its jeevan saral with DAB – Premium monthly 3062.. Almost i had paid the premium for 2 years 3 months.. 9 months i did not pay the premium as per schedule. Almost 3 years completed now.. Now the policy status is lapsed without surrender value. Can i withdraw my amount now?

Raja-No, you can’t withdraw. If you want to withdraw, then you must clear the pending premiums.

Hi Mr. Basavaraj,

I have completed 5 years of Jeevan saral paying Rs.5104 monthly (i.e. approx Rs. 3,00,000.00 till date) as an installment. I want to surrender this policy due to some financial problem, how much amount would I get as the lic website is showing after completion of 5 years if they surrender they will get 100% of the Maturity Sum Assured. So in that case would I get approx 3,00,000.00.

Thanks

Ashish

Ashish-Contact the branch for the same. MSA will be reduced to 5 years MSA.

Hello Sir…

I have just completed 5 years of jeevan saral policy.

So far I have paid about 1,53,000 RS for 9 jeevan saral policies (Courtesy LIC agent wrong input) which has different maturity dates but started at the same time in May 2011.

My age is 26 years when the investment started.

Now, I want to surrender all the policies. Can I expect to get the money which I have paid ?

I understand that visiting LIC office would be helpful but I am not in a position to visit office….

Mohsin-I think you get.

Hi Mr. Basavaraj,

I have completed 5 years of Jeevan saral paying 9187 Rs quarterly. If i surrender now ,will be losing the premiums paid in the 1st year according to LIC people. There is an option called partial surrender. Can you please throw some light on that.

Thanks

Harsha

Harsha-why you want to surrender?

Dear Basavraj,

1. Would like to liquidate this amount

2. Will be short of money due to some other financial commitments, so will be difficult to pay premiums of this amount.

Thanks in advance

Thanks in advance

Harsha-In that case better to surrender it.

Hi sir,

I have Jeevan Saral policy policy no #578448787 enrolled in 2011. I want to surrender the plan since I have completed 5 years.The maturity was in 2029 and MSA = 500000/- only.You have stated that surrendering after 5 years will fetch 100% of MSA value. So am I supposed to get 5lac or (500000/14)*5 = 1.78 lacs? I paid 2042 as monthly premium for 5 years so total premimum would be around 1lac 20k.Can you please tell me teh expected range of the surrender value that I am expected to get.

Thanks,

Debargha

Debargha-Your MSA will be re-adjusted to 5 years of Jeevan Saral. Based on that they pay. Check with nearest LIC office.

sir this is k v Raghu kumar i bought jeevan saral 165 plan in 2009 February,qtly premium 4250. i was paid until 2015 Feb premium. After that i was not paid till now, i have taken loan also amt RS 210000,AND interest RS21000 If i continue this policy i have to pay premiums amount+loan amount+interest.so now i am not able to pay this amount right now , and I asked to LIC officers if I surround the policy how much amount will i get, they told me approximately 26000 plus or minus, up to Feb 2015 i was paid Rs 306250,if surround this policy i will get loss the amount rs 30000 to 40000, what can i do please give your suggestion, now i am not ready to pay premiums and loan amount and intrests

Regards

k v raghu kumar

Raghu-If you are not ready to pay the interest, loan amount and premium, then better to surrender it.

Sir I have jeevan anand policy sum assured of 200000. my EMI is 7668 half early for 15 year, how can I get total maturity amount after 15 year. sir plz advice me.

Prince-The returns will be around 5% to 6%.

Dear Sir,

I wanted to know one thing that for jeevan saral it is preferred to surrender after 5 yrs if taken.

I pay premium yearly can you please tell 5 yrs will be considered completed after paying 5 premiums or after paying 5 premiums and completing 60 months as well.

Regards

Avinash Kedia

Avinash-After completion of 5th year i.e beginning of 6th year.

Dear Mr Tonagatti,

In one of the post (dated 22 Jan 2016) you have mentioned that LA would be 500 – 600, based on current trend.

Could you please elaborate?

Regards

Hi Basavaraj Tonagatti,

I took Jeevan saral Plan for 25 years with SA: 5,00,000 and Yearly Premium as 24.020 on 17/09/2013.

Till date i have paid three premium’s. After reading this blog, i realised that i had invested in a wrong plan.

So, please suggest me whether i should surrender this plan now or shall i pay two more premiums?? (to complete 5 years)

How much amount will i get if i surrender the plan now?

How much amount will i get if i surrender the plan after completing five years??

Thanks for your help inadvance..

Ramakrishna-Better to surrender after 5 years.

Please explain.

Why should we surrender for 5 years.

Why not in 3 years.

Chandru-In this policy, if you surrender after 5 years then it is considered as 5 years policy but not the term you opted earlier. This is the uniqueness. Hence, instead of 3 years, it is best to surrender at 5th year.

Hi Basu,

I have purchased Jeevan Saral in 2010. I’m paying half yearly premium of 15466 INR. My MSA is 1336367 INR. Now the policy is in affect for 6 years. I understand that Jeevan Saral has a SSV for >5 years, which is to pay out 100% of MSA . This MSA is calculated for the time frame for which the policy has been in affect i.e 6 years in my case. I also understand that in case of Jeevan Saral, LA starts from 10th Year onwards. Now I have couple of queries:-

1. If I surrender the Policy on 10th Year completion, would the returns be as calculated below ?

> MSA for 10 year period = 1336367 * 10/35

> LA for 10th year for premium range between 20,000 – 50,000 INR – 375 * MSA for 10 years/1000 = 375 * 1336376 * 10/35 * 1/1000

> Since Policy in affect for > 5 years. As per SSV, MSA Paid out = 100%

> Returns on surrender on 10th Year = MSA + LA

= ( 1336367 * 10/35 ) + ( 375 * 1336367 * 10/35 * 1/1000 )

2. If I opt to not pay any future premiums ( Policy lapsed ), what would be my returns at the end of policy term of 35 years ?

3. What would you recommend, should I hold the policy for its term or should I surrender it right away ?

Sriraj-How you can say that the MSA will be 10/35th of your Rs.13,36,367? You have to check your age while buying policy, premium you paid and arrive at MSA.

Hi Basavaraj,

Could you please me understand what would be the surrender value of this Policy on its 10th year completion ?. I need to know the below details actually:

1. MSA on surrender

2. Loyalty Addition on surrender ( I know this is not yet declared. Will be declared on 2019 for 2010 policies. But based on the Loyality declared for the last 3 years, Can I assume it to be 375 INR per 1000 MSA ? )

3. Total Surrender Value = MSA on surrender ( MSA calculated for 10 years ) + Loyalty Addition

My next premium payment date is on June 2016. If I have to exit from this Bad investment, I have to do it now. If you can guide on the above and answer my above queries related to calculation, it will be really helpful.

Thanks a million for your help :).

Sriraj-1) MSA on surrender will be known to you once you visit LIC for surrender.

2) You can. But clear picture or shocking picture emerge when you know the actual surrender of this policy.

3) Yes.

First go ahead and surrender it.

Sir I have purchased the jeevan saral policy with half yearly premium INR 3032 in may 2009. I want to surrender this policy due to some reason. Pls tell me about surrender value. Is it more beneficial to close after 10 yrs?

Rishiraj-Contact LIC branch.

Hi Basavaraj,

My Age at purchase is 24.

Premium paid per year = 15466 * 2 = ~31000 INR

Sriraj-Then calculate the MSA based on that.

Hi, Basavaraj

I have purchased the LIC Jeevan Saral in May 2010 through LIC agent. Now 5 years are completed for same. Since that agent had made a purchase of policy for 35 years term, can I close or surrender this policy now ? And, what could be process to do the same.

Let me know so that I can plan for better. Also, I would like to invest for long term in some SIP fashion. What could be the better option ? is it something similar to Tax saving MF.

Vimal-You can close the policy now. For surrender, you have to visit the servicing LIC branch with you original bond and KYC documents. They help you. You refer my earlier post “Top 10 Best SIP Mutual Funds to invest in India in 2016” and “Top 5 Best ELSS or Tax Saving Mutual Funds to invest in 2016“.

KYC is mandatory ? actually, I think I didn’t filled it up. Only bond can work ?

Vimal-Yes, KYC in the sense mainly your bank details to transfer the amount through NEFT.

Hi I have invested 36000 in jeevan saral and 6 years are completed.. Could you advise how much I will get as Lic says I will get 29000rs.and also advise do I need to continue the policy or surrender it….

Anil-Please read the below around 900 comments patiently. You will get my answer. Because it is repeated many times of what you are asking.

Please I want to know I purchase lics jeevan saral policy for 30 years of 1000 monthly premium on 27 age so what will be return i will get at maturity of policy

Krunal-This plan is already closed. You can’t purchase it.

Hi Basu, I was calculating MSA, LA and total amount I might receive.

I have jeeval saral policy which I took at the age of 25, half yearly 6065. Sum assured 250000.

Per my calculations.

MSA: 195310.

LA : (195310 * 250*5)/1000 (*5 because I presume from 10th year with 250 there is gradual increase of 50. So, I rounded it off to 250 for all 5 years from 10th to 15th making it 5 times) = 244137

Total amount is 439447.

Am I correct in calculating the LA? And is the total amount correct?

Btw, This is for 15 years plan.

Hemanth-No, I don’t think LA will be that high (considering the current trend). I presume around Rs.500 to Rs.600 for 10 years term.

Thanks for reply.

If we consider the amount to be 500.

LA calculations for Jeevan Saral would be as below:

LA = (MSA *500)/1000 = (195310*500)/1000 = 97655.

Total Amount would then become = 195310+LA = 292965.

Is this correct or am I still missing anything for LA calculations?

Hemanth-It’s correct. Now calculate the return using my latest post “Video tutor-How to calculate LIC policies maturity amount and returns?“.

Dear Sir,

Kindly advise, I took Jeevan saral policy plan 165 in 2011 at the age of 28 yrs.

premium of Rs 6125 quarterly.

tenure 15 years

i have paid premium of 4 years till date if i surrender policy now i am getting around Rs 70,000 (with loss of 30000 & 4 years)

what you will suggest should i continue or surrender policy? what would be the surrender value after paying 5 years premium?

Satish-Better to surrender after a year (completion of 5th year). You contact LIC branch regarding the exact values of surrender.

Many thanks Basavaraj.

I have taken Jeevan Saral Policy 4 yaers packa and my monthy sip is Rs 5000 i.e rs 1000 x 5 poiclies. Let me know wheather its is advisabke to continue this policy, are there sufficent returns as ther sis market rumours that Jeevan saral should not continued as there is case beteween LIC nad IRDA goint on for and less chances of getting assured rtuerns . Please suggest

Yogesh-Jeevan Saral is already a closed plan. Also, in my view, there is no such case between LIC and IRDA. Regarding your investment, better to close once you complete 5 years.

I surrendered my Jeevan Saral policy after paying 5 premiums and completing 5 years.

My Sum Assured was 12,62,500. Thus, the monthly premium was 12,62,500 / 250 = 5,050. Yearly premium was 5,050 * 12 = 60,600 minus 2% discount on annual payment = 59,387.50.

According to LIC’s table (I think no. 165), for someone who was 30 years at the time of buying the policy and paid 5 premiums, the “factor” for calculating Maturity Surrender Value (MSA) for the 5th year was 4,726 per Rs 100 of monthly premium.

Thus, the surrender value was calculated as 5,050 * 4,726 / 100 = 238,663. There would have been a reduction of 3-5 thousand rupees from this if the surrender had happened before completing 5 years.

The Rate of Return on the policy was -7.2%. If I had continued with the policy believing that I’ll get BIG loyalty bonuses, the rate of return would not have been more than 5%, typical with any other LIC policy.

LIC sucks! They have been duping common public for decades, using poor man’s hard earned money for free, making themselves and their agents rich, and returning peanuts to their customers provided they keep paying premium for ages. It’s a pity that majority in this country do not understand RoR and CAGR, which should be the first thing they should teach in schools.

PP-It is heartening to hear your story. Hope others understand the reality.

Hello Sir,

Today I went to LIC office and asked about the policy surrender procedure. My policy start of date is 09/2009 and date of maturity is 09/2029. I am paying Rs.2300 every 3 months as premium. When I spoke to the LIC officer they asked me why you are surrendering the policy, you have paid premium regularly for 6 years and now why are you surrendering. They asked to to get loan on the policy. Finally they told till date I have paid premium of Rs.59000 and if I surrender I will be getting only Rs.48000. Then I asked her its mentioned in the policy document like special surrender value will be 100% of MSA if premiums are paid for 5 years or more. They said there is nothing like that and there will be Rs.11000 loss for you. Hearing this I am very clear that they are not even promising what is return on the policy document and I am not sure what amount I will be getting in my hand at the end of the policy completion. I am going to fill the form and going to submit the forms for surrender.

You are really doing a great job here. Thanks for your advice and educating everyone.

Hi Basavaraj,

I must say your online platform provides the best information on LIC policies and especially Jivan Saral policy. Thanks for sharing such valuable information on such important investment topics.

I had purchased Jivan Saral policy 8 years ago when I was aged 30 years. My annual premium is Rs. 60k. I have taken this policy for a period of 35 years. After reading your comments here, I am assuming that this investment will not yield me more than 6-7% returns over a 35 year long period. This is very low compared to the time and the money I am putting in.

I would like to get your advise on whether I should surrender this policy now or wait for the completion of 10 years so that I get some LA.

Your advise will be highly appreciated!

Rgds,

Kuntal

Kuntal-No great benefit in waiting. Hence, better to act and surrender.

Hi,

I have a Jeevan Saral Policy (Table 165) taken in 2012 and will mature in 2037. The sum assured is Rs/-1250000. I pay yearly premium of Rs/-60050. I have paid four premiums so far. My question to you – If I surrender this policy after 5 years, then as per information shared by you in this blog, I will get 100% of the premium amount paid i.e. 3 lacs. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Also, If I wish to continue with this policy till end than what would be the total amount I get? Any other suggestion regarding this [policy would be really helpful.

Anup-It is slightly positive or negative at 5th year. If you continue this policy till end, then the return will be around 4% to 5%.

Hello Sir,

I bought LIC Jeevan Saral policy on 7th jan 2010 at the age of 25. I am paying 18015 as yearly premium, policy term is 25 and death sum assured is 375000.

I have paid premium till jan 2014 ie for 5 years .

Please advise, should I go for 25 term or surrender the policy now or pay premium for 10 years and then surrender my policy.

what will be my surrender value after 10 years and now and maturity value after 25 years

Thanks in advance.

Tejaswini-I think we discussed the same in our Facebook chat.

Dear Sir,

Kindly advise, I took Jeevan saral policy plan 165 in 2011 at the age of 24 yrs.

premium of 29000 half yearly

tenure 15 years

i have paid premium of 4 years till date if i surrender policy now i am getting around 175000 (with loss of 57000 & 4 years)

what you will suggest should i continue or surrender policy? what would be the surrender value after paying 5 years premium?

Jyoti-Better to surrender after 5 years. Regarding values, contact LIC branch.

I started LIC Jeevan Saral Policy 3 years before for a yearly premium of INR 24020.

1. What will be the actual total amount i will receive as per today’s calculation after 35 years? Policy Started at age 26.

2. How can i get out of this Policy immediately or what will be the best time and what will be the charges deducted for same?

Thanks a lot for all your help & valuable information.

Anuj-Your both doubts are already answered in below comments many times. Please go through them.

Can you please let me the formula to calculate it? So that i put the values in and calculate expected outcome from this Policy…

Anuj-You can use the compound interest formula. You search in Google and found many online sites.

Thanks Basavaraj for all your help and replies. i got clarification for my 2nd doubt regarding surrender value. Can you please clarify my first doubt by giving me a rough figure (What will be the actual total amount after 35 years – Policy Started at age 26 & Annual Premium 24,020.), it will be appreciated. Sorry to bugging you again and again.

Anuj-Considering the current LA trend, the return may be around 5% to 6%. Not more than that. It’s alright and never think by commenting.

Hi Basavaraj,

I am weak in calculating these percentages & opt in for this Policy ๐ …. that’s why i am asking you that what will the FIGURE (appox.) after calculating? Thanks a ton again.

Anuj-Basic Maths is enough to do the calculation. If you still have confusion, then please go through the below comments. You notice my calculation and answers.

Sir, what is the income tax implication on surrender value after 5 premium terms?

Amit-Please read my earlier post “Tax Benefits of Life Insurance“.

Thank sir for your kind reply! Is the surrender value received (after paying more than 2 premium terms for traditional policies), required to mention in our ITR of the respective year?

Amit-Read my post about taxation once again.

Hi,

Need your expertise here. I’ve paid 5 premiums till date for Jeevan Saral (24020*5) for a measly 5 lacs sum assured (No riders).

The 6th Premium date is approaching in Jan 2016. What would you advise for this plan – Should one:

1. Just stop paying premiums (Make it Paid up) and wait another 10 years for the money

2. Surrender the Policy immediately and collect whatever is left of it

3. Continue with the policy for another 5 premium terms to look at Loyalty Bonus etc

4. Any other advise on this policy?

Do respond! Thx

Rgds

Abhi-Surrender now itself.

Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti,

Thanks for your detailed explanation of this policy. I am in dilemma now & appreciate if you help me to solve this.

My DOB is -1989,

JEEVAN SARAL Plan details are as follows:

Policy Date: June-2012,

Half yearly premium=18195, TABLE=165, TERM=35 yrs

As I have completed 3 yrs. of my policy. I went to LICBranch to get surrender amount and Surrender value is Rs 61632/-. But till date I have paid total premium 109170/-. And Now if I surrender then I will be in Loss of Rs 47000 Approx.

Please suggest me on following option

1) Should I exit at this stage of 3 yrs & take 47K loss. Invest that 61k money in my home loan which will at least reduce my interest component.

2) As in above post you suggested that exit from this plan after 5yr.

If I surrender this policy after 5yr

a) Will I get complete premium back. At least (181950) my 5 yrs paid premium .

b) Or after 5 yr also I have to bear some loss. (May be you have some rough idea on this)

Your suggestion will help me to take further decision.

Vrushali-You may not get the full amount of what you paid in case you surrender after 5 years. But the loss will be minor compare to today’s surrender. Hence, I suggest to surrender after 5 years.

Hi Sir,

I have taken Jeevan Saral policy in 2011 for 16 years with a premium 48040/Year.

My age was 31 years when i enrolled for it, agent has given bond of worth 10 Lac.

It would be great if you explain or guide me where to invest

Please let me know what would be my meturity amount after 16 years?

What is SA for my policy?

How much LA I can get after 10 & during 16th year?

Shall i continue with the policy?

With Regards,

Sam

Sam-Your all doubts are explained in above post and below comments. Please go through them.

Hi Basu,

I am a regular visitor of your site and find your blog very helpful.

my question is around Jeevan Saral – i have been paying the premium for 7 years and surrendering this policy as it does not suite my needs.

Question : my premium is due next month so do you think i should be paying the pending premium and then surrender to surrender directly ? if you could shed some light in this matter.. a big thanks in advance for your answer.

Unmesh-Better to surrender before paying premium.

thanks basu.

as you suggested i will surrender the policy without paying the pending premium but do you think it will cause any trouble or inconvenience if i surrender the policy when the premium paying date is passed ?

Unmesh-I don’t think so.

I have seven years of my LIC Jeevan Saral Policy.

If I will surrender the same now, Shall I get my total premiums paid back or not ?

If yes then shall I get any sort of additional amount ?

Haresh-Please contact LIC branch.

Hi,

I have taken Jeevan Saral on 2013. Two years paid. But when i look at your blog, i am surprised to see that i was cheated.

My premium details are,

10,000 – per month.

for 35 years.

DOB : 31/07/1984

Please tell me how much i will get it. Will it be good to withdraw after 5 years?

Thanks,

Mahalakshmi

Diwakaran-I will not repeat once again, but you might know my answer ๐

Very informative article…

Hi Baswa,

Below are my details

DOB 9 july 1982

premium 9187 quarterly

policy term 20 years

started 24/5/2013

Sum assured 750000

Please help me in finding out total return after 20 years and also what would i get if i surrender in 5 years

Thanks in advance !

Deepu-Go through the above post and older comments. You will get my answer. However, returns will be around 5%.

Thanks Basu,

I had no interest before reading your blog and not even know the basic of investment but after reading your blog and some interesting question i did some google and found that if i invest 3000 per month in PF I will get near about 1942961 in 20 years (interest rate appx 8.7%), which would be far better then LIC.

Do you agree to this?

The only difference would be that I am not insured with PF but with LIC.

any advise you want to share?

Deepu-I agree. But do you feel the Jeevan Saral insurance coverage is actually fulfills your insurance need? You be underinsured by buying such products.

No, I dont think that jeevan saral will fulfill the insurance need so I am planning to cancel this and will go for term insurance rather

But again can you give me a rough idea how much will i get if i cancel today (3 years) offcourse i will call LIC as well but thought to check with you as well

hope you wont mid

Deepu-No idea.

Hi,

Have you completed the chart for surrendering.

Regards

bharat

Bharat-It is not required as the plan itself stopped and you can get the information about surrender in your phone itself.

Hi,

Have you completed the chart for surrendering.

Regards

Bikash

i have a jeevan saral ….premium of 1,40,000 per annum…….i have completed 3 years….when should i terminate to get the whole premium amount back without any interest….or when should i terminate to suffer least loss in premiums….thanks in advance…

Wasim-Best to complete 5 years.

Sir,

For example, we paid Rs. 60,000/- in 5 years under Jeevan Saral Plan,

and we surrender the policy after completion of 5 years, then what amount we get ??

we get paid amount with interest or without interest ??

Also, what will be rate of interest ?

Thanks

Chandan-Better you contact the LIC Branch.

I knew

Thanks

Dear Basavaraj/ Admin

Greetings!!

Today morning I posted my query on your site and it was displayed but later on it deleted by you people but again I am writing to you.

I took Jeevan saral plan (165) on 15-10-2010, that time my age was 19th Years. I pay quarterly payment Rs. 3062/-, and sum assured is 2,50,000/- , Term – 12 years.

Now I am planing to surrender it on 20th Oct-2015 due to some personal reasons.

So please tell me what amount I will get after completion of 5 years, also tell me what rate of interest will be provided to me.

Moreover, if I complete this plan till 12th years what amount I will get ??

Your prompt revert on same will be highly appreciated.

Regards

C.P-It was not deleted but need admin approval if you are commenting first time. Once admin approve it then only it is visible. You have to visit LIC office or use the facility they provided like “Check LIC Policy status without registration by Mobile Phone or SMS” to know the values.

I am unable to know my query answer

So please give me brief idea what amount I will get after completion of 5 years

C.P-It will be around 4%.

Hello Sir,

I contacted LIC Branch and came to know that Maturity Value is Rs.50169/- even I paid Rs.64302/- to lic in 21 premium of Rs.3062/- quarterly

so its cleared, we will not get 100% amount even after completion of 5 years

CP-True and that is the reality of traditional plans.

Hello Sir,

Can you please confirm which form I have to fill for policy surrender

Should I fill form No 5074 ?

Or form no 3510 ?

Or any other form ?

Please confirm asap bcoz I have to send these documents out of station

Note- My policy is not completed

C.P.-Both are one and same (I am not sure why they put two numbers).

3062 quarterly for 5 years = 61240

I will get more than 61240+ interest = ??

or less amount ??

Dear Mr. Basu,

I have taken jeevan saral policy in 2011 when my age was 60 yr.Annual prem.is Rs.60050.Till today I have paid 4 instalments. Term of the policy is for 10 years. The maturity sum assured is 152950.Tell me how much amount I can get on maturity assuming the current rate of LA.If I decide to surrender the policy , how much will i get now ?

S.T.Dabir, Aurangabad

Sharad-My answer is already available in above post and below comments. Returns will be around 5% to 6%.

Dear Basav,

My confusion is regarding the LA payable for a 10 year term policy. It is mentioned in the scheme that LA will be paid only on complition of minimum 10 years. In that sense, the maturity amount in my case will be – Rs. 152950 (MSA) ) +Rs.45900( LA at the present rate of Rs. 300). = Rs.1198850/-. Is this correct ?

Correction in the last line. The amount is.Rs.198850 instead of 1198850

S.T.Dabir

Sharad-Yes.

Hi Basu,

Some correction is required in your information.

I have surrendered my jeevan saral policy after 5 years and i haven’t received 100% of my premiums. I received Rs 36,000 lower then my premiums paid during 5 years of tenure. But you have mentioned that if surrendered after 5 years then we will receive 100% premiums.

Please let me know if you need any clarifications.

Though you have made your disclaimer statement clear but as a responsible blogging person we should be very careful in publishing financial related info on web on which people are going to take decisions.

thanks

Satish

Satish-What I said is, LIC consider your policy as 5-year tenure policy. Accordingly they adjust the MSA for 5 years period+LA. If such adjustment is less than of what you paid then it is an eyewash which LIC created stating that this policy is highly liquid.

Hi Basavaraj,

I had two policies of jeevan saral for the term of 35 Years as mentioned below:-

Enrollment Date Prm Amt[Monthly] Maturity Amt

28-02-2012 [2,042.00] 5,00,000

14-01-2014 [4,083.00] 10,00,000

Can you tell me the surrender value and paid up value for both policy? AND

what you will suggest to do should I surrender or should i do the paid up for both the policy?

Bipinkumar-Please contact nearest LIC branch for surrender or paid up values. First check the values then decide. You can’t do both the things unless your policy completes 3 years.

thanks for the reply.:)

Dear Sir,

Kannan here, I have taken Jeevan saral (165) policy through an agent in April 2009. The Policy details are as follows:-

Jeevan Saral (165) Policy Term โ 21 years

Date of commencement: 09/04/2009

My Age at the time of policy: 30 yrs

Premium โ Rs. 7656 / quarter

Maturity Sum Assured โ Rs 7,24,375

Accident Benefit sum assured- Rs 6,25,000

Term rider Sum Assured โ Rs. 6,25,000

Policy Maturity Date: 09/04/2030

My question is

1) The Agent showed me Jeevan Saral ATM Plan chart(Table no 165) that I would get 20 lakhs at the end of 21 yrs after taking a premium of Rs. 7656 / quarter. Will I get 20 lakhs (as per table no 165) at the end of 21yrs?

2) If no, then how much i will get actually at the end of 21 yrs?

Regards,

K. Kannan

Kannan-Even if you consider Rs.20 lakh as a return then too the return on investment will be around 4.89%. So waiting for such long 30 years and expecting around 5% return is worth?

Thank you for your quick response…

Please let me know that could I get 20 lacs (as per table 165) at the end of 21yrs?

Kannan-What I am pointing is, Rs.21 lakh you may get it. But this return is suffice and at what cost you are getting? Think seriously.

Sir,

As per policy I need to pay premium Rs 7656 per quarter for complete policy term 21 yrs. So as a whole I could have paid around 6.5lacs (Rs 7656 * 4 * 21=Rs 6,43,104 ) at the end of 21 yrs. As per table 165, LIC will give me lumpsum of 20lacs alongwith loyalty addition after maturity period 21yrs). So I hope it is a good return. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Awaiting for your response

Kannan-I assumed wrongly that the term of policy is 30 years. Now according to your agent, the return on this investment will be 10%. This is totally impossible from this policy. Considering the expenses involved in traditional plans and the nature of investment LIC do by this amount, it is hard to expect around 5%. Rest is left with you to decide.

Thank you

Dear Admin and all user,

I want to share my feeling here-

I took Jeevan Saral policy in 2008 for a premium of Rs.20417 annually (my age was 24 years ).During taking the policy my agent show me a detailed chart which show multiple benefit and too much return. I observed that no agent is showing actual table to customer and formula for calculation of maturity amount. Thanks to Basavraj .

During that time I was only 24 years old and very much eager to take a pension insurance plan for my better future. I am a common man and was not aware about common insurance fraud.

Please note that LIC agent will tell you only high premium plan so that they can get good commission and Jeevan Saral is the best example. We are indian and believe on everybody very easily. We believe in LIC as our parents teach us that LIC is very good.

After taking this policy I learned many things and invested in other area like Equity, mutual fund, Recurring, FD etc and I want to share my knowledge for you.

1. Insurance- insurance should be used only for covering risk not for investment but most of us try to invest our money in insurance. ULIP is a great example for that. From my past mistake I learned that everybody should take only pure insurance without any maturity

for eg: Pradhanmantri Suraksha Bima Yozna of Rs.12 premium- it is the best example for pure insurance without maturity but only for accidental insurance

Ask your agent to show life insurance plan without any maturity. Believe me he will try to misguide you because in that case premium amount will be minimum

for eg: if you want a risk cover of Rs.500000 in case of death then you have to pay only 1400 annualy ( if your age is 24 years) so safe your family by taking pure insurance plan

Now come to second option-

2. Investment- you can invest your money in various option as per your wish but i will suggest you to invest in many option rather than in one bucket.

a. Gold

B. Property- Highest Safe Investment and best value

C. Equity Share Market- only for some Tech savy person

D. Mutual Fund- Medium risk and ladder for new investor. Personally I took ELSS mutual fund for 3 years locking period and believe me I got my money double ( may be i choose best fund or luck) and since then I am investing money every year + tax benefit

E.Kisaan Vikas Patra- we are used to it. we should invest our some % in it.

F. PPF- good for safe side and secure future

G. Local BC or Patti or Kitty- Best for businessman

H. Recurring- Its very easy( if did online) and suggest that every person invest their bank saving in it. You can withdraw anytime.

Question to Admin- Sir, I am feeling that I stuck due to investment in Jeevan Saral plan. I started with Rs.20417 in 2008 for 35 years term plan and now i want to surrender but i want some return. Through your table i calculate that i will get around 950000 without loyalty which is worst return as per me so please tell me that my calculation is right or wrong and for some return in which years I should surrender the policy.

Second Question- For securing my future I want to take a pension plan but I don’t have proper knowledge so guide me after surrender this policy which pension plan I should choose.

Third Question- I started my business recently (I worked in various MNC for last 10 years) for which I want to establish a taxation system. I read many books for taxation but got confused and need your help. For this support I can pay your fee.

My email id [email protected].

Please revert.

Best Regards,

Subhash

Subhash-I respect your sharing and concerns. However, I have different opinion about investments like Gold, Property, Equity (this is not at all meant for tech savvy, in fact, it is bet for those who understand the concept of equity) and for local BC. Now regarding your doubts,

1) Your policy already completed 5 years. Hence, visit LIC branch and ask for closure value. Then decide whether it is worth to continue or stop.

2) As of now there is no such pension product, which you may say BEST. You have to accumulate on your own.

3) Sorry, I am not an expert in that matter. I can only handle the personal finance tax but not business or corporate.

I have LIC jivan saral policy with premium of 6065 HLY since July 2008.

1. If i surrender this policy than what amount of money i get ?

2. if i surrender after 10 years than what amount of money i get ?

MY MSA is 534990

MY TERM is 35

Anup-Contact LIC branch.

Thanks Basu, I can and will contact LIC nearest Branch.. but what’s the use of this blog then?

Abhishek-I am not here to let all readers to know about the surrender or paid-up values. This is meant to understand you about how it works. Also, if you are so smart to ask me of WHAT IS THE USE OF THIS BLOG, then I feel it is a pity of you. This blog is meant for making you to understand how these schemes work. You already committed one mistake of investing without knowing whether it suited to you or not. Nothing comes easily and the same applies to your investment and knowledge.

Thanks Mr Basu.. as far as my knowledge is concerned..it doesn’t need your scale for rating..Instead of reading your blog, people can go to website, article & their policies.. but if you see most of the comments are asking for your help on MSA.. you should know how to solve it..put a excel which gives indicative , it’s still fine..

I have answer to your offending comments, but I would rather end the discussion with a note that I have got details I was looking for PERIOD

Abhishek-I wrote all information in a simple way. But I can’t spoon feed all. If I do so then what is the difference between me and the agent with whom you bought LIC policy?

Hi,

I have a Jeevan Saral Policy, premium 9188/- quarterly. Till now I have paid 13 premiums i.e. 3 yrs + 1 quarter.

If I now surrender the policy, what would be the surrender value?

Thanks

Abhishek

Abhishek-Contact nearest LIC branch.

Hi Sir,

Found your blog very useful. Thanks for the really informative post.

I need a small clarification here. I have a

Jeevan Saralpolicy since 2010. I have been paying Rs.1000/month and now it’s been 5 years and the total premium paid is Rs.60,000. So what is the amount that I will get back if I surrender now? Thespecial surrender valuesays, if 5 years’ premium has been paid then 100% of Maturity sum will be assured to us. Butguaranteed surrender valueis 30% of the total premium paid excluding 1st year’s premium. Which one of these do I get? And how to avail the Special surrender plan? Please help me out with this.Thanks

Akrash-Whichever is higher.

I have started my policy on September 2011 my premium is of 35280 per year I have paid 4 installment. My policy is jeevan saral with profit . how much I will get if I surrender this policy now.

Or if I surrender after 5th installment how much I will get ?

Prashant-Please contact the nearest LIC Branch for surrender value.

Sir, Is there any website where we can calculate the maturity amount of different policies?

Rajesh-Sadly no such website available. But by the above method, you can calculate yourself easily.

Please let me know any plan related to Jeevan Saral benefits

Ambica-As of now no such plans.

I purchased a Jeevan Saral Policy in Feb. 2009 and have paid instalments for six years. My quarterly instalment is Rs. 9800/-. Now I want to surrender this policy. How much amount I will get 0ut of it. I have paid for six years as follows:

9800X24= 235200

Whether I will get some interest on it or not? Kindly help me.

Praveen-Visit nearest LIC branch.

Hello Sir ,

My name is Sumit , I am having a jeevan saral policy taken in 2011 @ the age of 24 . The premium amount is 48000 yearly & policy period is 35 years .I come to know after so many blogs that i did a mistake of taking this policy . I have paid premium for 4 years & would like to quit after paying the 5th year premium . Can you please let me know the amount i will get aftr completion of 5th premium under special surrender ?? Please advise . Also please let me now the value after completing ten years of premium . Will get loyalty bonus add on ??

Sumit-Please go through below comments.

i am paying 1500 pm for 15 years and my plan is Jeevan Saral… please calculate the maturity amount and send me the same in my email.

Pradeep-Take the pain and read post and comments ๐

hi sir,

please upload the Sum assured chart for LIC jeevan saral policy.

Regards,

Sameer

Sameer-It’s already closed plan. Why you need it now?

Hello Sir,

i have bought Jeevan saral in 2011 and paying premium of Rs.30025/- since then. Its for 35 years. I took it when i was 25 years old. I am still confused what i will be getting after 35 years. Policy date of maturity is in 2046. Sorry for the confusion but i am not good in this type of calculations and lot of confusion about the sum assured and maturity sum etc…

Also let me know how you calculate so I can plan and calculate in future accordingly.

moreover can we take same policy twice or increase premium in between?

Thank you sir

Vipul-Procedure is already explained above. Please go through it.

hi

thanks for sharing valuable information.

my husband brought a LIC Jeevan Saral Policy (Table 165) for 18 years at the age of 33yr in 2010 , qtly premium 15312. Policy sum assured value 12,50,000/-. Please let me know my total maturity value.

Priyanka-If you want to surrender within 10 years then it may be less than your savings account interest.

Why so much partiality. For the guys questions you just told them to read the article and for the girl you answered her question. ๐

Calvin-Is it? I have not done any such partiality. Initially I tried to reply with their unique quaries. But if the same quaries started to repeat then I requested readers to follow the earlier comments. For me no differentiation of gender.

Dear Sir..

Its wonderful the way u explained the calculations. I will be extremely grateful to you if you could tell me the exact surrender value. I am investing Rs 3000/- month in Jeevan saral for 15 years term starting in March 2011. If I surrender after completing 5 years of premium paid ( i.e in April 2016) what amount I should assume to get ? Pls help. My maturity sum assured is Rs 750000/-

Ramani-Exact surrender value will be available with LIC. So better to contact them.

Dear Sir,

I took Jeevan Saral for my Wife on 12-Dec-2011 for 35 yrs term and my annual premium was 12000/.

As one of my friend told that the Maturity Sum assured is not that great in this policy.

So Please guide whether to continue with this policy or surrender it after 5 yrs.

Thanks in advance.

Nitin-Yes your friend is right. If your expectation is more than 6% then better to surrender.

dear sir

i have bought jeevan saral before 5 years back

monthly premium is 1000

how much money i should get after 25 years

Hi,

I had taken Jeevan Saral policy in combination with Jeevan Anand in 2013 at the age of 26 for a term of 30 yrs. I pay monthly premium of Rs. 1125 towards Jeevan Anand and Rs. 1021 towards Jeevan Saral. Please suggest me whether I should surrender Jeevan Saral after lock-in period of 3 yrs ends. My mother also pays Rs. 360000 as annual premium for Jeevan Saral.

Also the premium schedule chart provided by my advisor shows return of 1416000 after 30 yrs from Jeevan Anand policy. Is it true ?

Pritish-Better to surrender after 5th year. What bonus he considered to arrive at that final amount?

Hello Sir,

My husband has opted for LIC Saral Policy (165) in 2010 at the age of 21. Sum assured-300000, premium-3675 quarterly, Term- 30 years. Location-Pune, Maharashtra.

What would be the amount we will receive after maturity of the policy?

Thanks,

Chitra

Dear Sir

Based on your comments, it seems it is advisable to exit this plan after 5 years. I have paid 3 premiums so far. Should I stop paying premiums and surrender after 5 years or pay 2 more premiums and then exit?

Thank you so much in guiding laymen with this forum.

Regards

Chandra

Chandra-First check with LIC branch how much you get if you stop now or pay for next three years. Then based on that take your decision.

Sir I have a jeevan saral plan

30yrs term

Taken at age 26

Premium paid for 6yrs(rs.1940 monthly)

If I surrender now I will get 100000/-

If surrender after 10yrs will I get rs.400000/-

Is my above calculation true

Sir please help

Kutub-Why can’t confirm the same from LIC branch? Because both calculations are exaggerated.

DEAR SIR,

I HAVE BROUGHT THE PRODUCT OF LIC โJEEVAN SARALโ AT DECEMBER-2013 OF RS. 11, 25,000/- FOR 26 YEARS TERMS & YEARLY PREIMUM PAID OF RS. 54045/- ONLY.

SIR MY QUERY IS THAT IF I HAVE TO COMPLETELY SURRENDER THE POLICY AFTER NEXT FIVE YEARS, SO WHAT I WILL GET ON PRE-MARUITY VALUE,

OR IF I WILL HAVE TO GO AHEAD AFTER NEXT FORTHCOMING ELEVEN YEARS, SO WHAT I WILL GET ON SURRENDER VALUE. IT WILL BE ALSO PAYABLE L.A. OR NOT.

KINDLY HELP ME AT THIS MATTER. I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU.

Rohit-Better you contact LIC branch to know the values of period you mentioned. How can I say those values?

Sir I want to purchase a land worth Rs 12 lacs. as an investment I had given an advance Worth Rs 5 lacs the registration will be on coming March 15. But sir I have a shortage of Rs 3.5 lacs. sir i am a self employed person running my own computer business and i am an income tax payer. am i eligible for a loan for land purchase. except the advanced deed i Had nothing to give as a security to bank.

actually i am from west bengal and the property(land) which i want to purchase is in the state of Bihar just 2 hours from my location. if i am eligible, from where do i apply a loan from my nearest Branch? or in the Branch where I want to purchase the land ?

Raju-Please contact the branches where your land is located.

I got Jeevan Saral Policy two years before.

My yearly premium is Rs.31,826. ANd the Sum Assured is Rs.6,62,500/-

I just paid two Premium. I am yet to pay premium for this year (Dec 14).

By reading all above comments, I have decided better to quit the policy at this stage and buy some Term Insurance (Jeevan Amulya).

Just wanted your advice. Is it better to quit now or after 5 years?

Please help.

-Ram

Ramprabhu-It is better to continue if your are satisfied with return I quoted in below comments. Otherwise discontinue immediately after 5 years why to buy offline term insurance of Jeevan Amulya, when LIC offering cheaper online term plan?

Hi Basavaraj Tonagatti,

Excellent comments / reply by you sir,

Keep it,

Thanks,

Rajinikanth Reddy.

hi Basavaraj,

i have jeeval saral 165 policy my quarterly premium RS 6431

can u explain before 20 year how much my maturity amount .

Deepak-You go through the above review and below comments. You get my answer easily ๐

Basav for this plan I want more clarity

I have saral plan for 30 Years with 30K yearly prem, 7 year completed, MSA is 162262

LIC office told mi surrender value 159355 for today

Accroding to the product note if I continue till 10th year my surrender value should be MSA i.e. 162262 but my agent told mi that u continue till 10th you will receive the bounus + 100% of value paid that is 3 lacs + bonus aprox comes to 3.75 lacs

pls suggest what will be surrender value after 10th year,I got for after 7th year

in this situation what should I do

pls note that I don’t want to continue this till 30 years

Ajay-Don’t do so much research. Calculate yourself the amount you pay for 10 years then consider the current LA for for 10 year term. You get answer, i.e return of 4% !!!

Hello,

I have been following your Blog Posts for some time now and find them very informative. I had a Query regarding my Jeevan Saral Policy. I was also one of many people who got lured by a LIC Agent and got trapped in this Policy.

I had taken this Policy in 2008 and it has completed 6 Yrs. now and now i want to surrender it. I got to know from LIC Customer Care that i will be getting around 1.75 L and my Premium Paid till now is 2.18 L.

With a heavy heart, i am ready to bear the Loss.

However, most important thing i want to know is whether i will lose the Tax Exemptions that i have claimed by showing the LIC Premiums as Investment under 80C ? Do i need to repay all the Amount that i have claimed under 80C for 6 Yrs.?

Awaiting your response.

Thank you.

Forgot to add that i also seem to have misplaced the original Policy Document. Do i need to apply for a Duplicate Policy Document before surrendering it ?

Abhishek-Please go through the tax benefits of Life Insurance by visiting my earlier post “Tax Benefits of Life Insurance“.

After going through the above link, i can conclude that I do not need to repay back the amount I have got exempted till now under 80c. Kindly confirm.

Also, plz let me know if I need to obtain the duplicate policy before surrendering, as I seem to have misplaced my original policy document.

Thank you.

Abhishek-If you understood the Sec.80C reversal rules then go ahead as suggested. Yes for surrendering you need to apply for duplicate bond.

Hi Sir,

I have Started my LIC Jeevan Saral Policy on 09-Dec-2009,

I am paying a premium f 24020 yearly.

My DOB is 16-08-1986.

Please let me know what is the amount that i will get back once i surrender the policy in Dec 2014, i.e. after completion of 5 years.

Thanks,

Harsh

Harsh-Only GOD knows, because even LIC officials are not aware of this ๐

Thanks For the Reply Sir.

It would be great if you can tell me that Will the Amount be at least equal to the premium paid by me i.e. 120,000 or less than that ?

Thanks,

Harsh

Harsh-Contact LIC branch for the same.

Dear basavraj

My dob- 25/12/84 and my jeevan saral plan details are as follows

Policy date- 21/03/2011

Quarterly premium- 15312

Table-165, term- 20 yrs

Sir, how much will I get after completion of 10 yrs and 20 yrs

Thanks in advance

And one more thing sir do we get MSA+LA after completion of 5 yrs

Laxmikant-Please go through below comments. You will find my answer ๐

Dear Sir,

How much do you expect the Loyalty addition to rise as as of now based on bonus 2014-15 its 475 for 13 years with highest premium paid slab.

This question is to understand if i am staying invested and say redeeming it at 25 years (instead of 13 years for which the calculation of 475 is given) how much this LA would be ?

Ashish-Even if one exaggerate the values then too return from this policy will be around 5% to 6%.

Hi

I purchased Jeevan Saral plan with yearly payment of 30025/- for 35 Years. Policy started in 12/2008. As per the comments it does not look a policy with good returns.

1)Can you please advise me that do we have better LIC policy than Jeevan Saral?? If yes, should i go for surrender the policy and take that one.

2) If not LIC can you suggest me any good investment tool with can give the approx. 10% guaranteed returns with the investment of 2500-3000/- per month.

Regards,

Vikas Singla

Dear sir,

I have purchased quaterly premium of lic jivan saral plan for 21 year with value 4594 per quaterly basis i have paid 5 year .i wants to surrender plz confirm the return amount

Rajeev-Please go through below comments. You will find my answer so many times.

I am paying 25000 Rs yearly premium since last 10 years of jeevan saral policy. Already 11 premium paid. I want to surrender my policy next year..Heard 260% loyality addition declared.What will be my surrender value next year.

kindly help.

Saumil-Please confirm the source of 260% of LA first, then we discuss further.

I got information from my LIC agent. He checked with LIC Branch.

Hi,

I bought this policy on 2008 and paid my 7th installment(210000).Recently i am in need of money and wanted to surrender.surrender office said i can only get 1,65000.

If i continue till 11th year i may get good returns(3-5%).

ridiculous!!!!

Beware these agents..they may say 100 rupees each year after 20 year you will get 2100 + expensive accidental insurance.

Regards,

Sir,

I have taken jeevan saral policy when I was 20 yrs old and paid Rs. 4083 monthly premiuma for 25 yrs. Policy completed 5 yrs I dn’t understand what should have to do ? Surrender or continue. If surrender then what amount wlii be get.

Dubey-If you feel return of around 6% is good for that 25 years of investment then continue. Otherwise surrender it. For values better to contact LIC branch.

Hello Sir,

I read your post completely. I am very bad at math. I will be very much glad if you help me with the figures.

I got LIC jeevan saral policy.

I pay 3000/month

on my LIC doc it shows 1589790 as mat sum assured and 2048 as last date

i can not hold for that long

how much will i get after 5 yrs and 10 yrs (lump sump) including all the benefits.

I have lost the faith in this policy.

How do you consider this policy.

I have just started earning can you suggest me better approaches of investment to get good benefits.

I am very new to all these.

Also can I get loan on jeevan saral if so how much?

Hi

My understanding from your article is I will get 80% of premium paid after 3 years i.e. 80% x (3x72K) = 1.72 Lacs.

And if I hold it for 5 years surrender value will be 100% of premium paid i.e. 5x72K i.e. Rs 3.6 Lacs.

If I consider my example here

3*60 = 180

but after 10 yrs some of the charts on the internet shows

3*120= 360 (something around 6 lacks i shown)

How is that calculated?

Also If My term is 35 yrs.

Will I get near around 6 lacks after 10 yrs?

Anirudha-It is not a rocket science to understand these basic things. Try to understand yourself and take control of your money. Otherwise one more agent will come and sell you one more bad products. After all it is your money. So take care by learning basics.

See what I understood is, if I have 10,00,000 INR sum assured at maturity and if term is for 35 years with yearly premium of >50000 if we assume rate of 425 INR for 35 years per 1000 rupees of sum assured then loyalty addition will be

(10,00,000/1000)*425*35=1,48,75000 INR

Am I right?

Pranav-Totally wrong. Because LA is not an yearly payout. So multiplying it by 35 is wrong. Do it without multiplying with period of policy i.e 35 Yrs.

Hi Basavaraj,

I have Jeevan Saral with 72k/year premium paid half yearly. I have already paid 6 premiums i.e. for 3 years. please suggest what is the best time to surrender the policy.

My understanding from your article is I will get 80% of premium paid after 3 years i.e. 80% x (3x72K) = 1.72 Lacs.

And if I hold it for 5 years surrender value will be 100% of premium paid i.e. 5x72K i.e. Rs 3.6 Lacs.

Please check if this is right?

Achin-Yes true.

Hi,

I have two different policies from LIC – Jeevan Tarang and Saral.

Have question regarding Saral. As per my LIC bond, sum assured is rs.5 lakh and for 21 years. I bought this LIC on 23.09.2009 hence this September (2014), 5 years completed for this policy. I am paying quarterly Rs. 6125 premium. Now, my query is, if I surrender my policy now(after 5 years), what would be my SA? I have this question because in this forum page you said have explained about DAB.

Thank you

Pari

Pari-Please read complete description. In this policy SA is different and MSA is different. Once you go for closure after 5th year then this MSA is reduced to 5 years policy period and accordingly you receive benefits.

Very useful article. Thank you Basavarajji.

can you please let me know then formula ( logic) for calculate MSA ? I am also frustrate with jeevan saral plan and paying 42000 yearly. Now I am planning to come out from this plan so if you have formula/function for calculate MSA then please provide me. Thanks

Jaydev-No need to scratch your head. MSA will be available on your bond document. Suggest you to recheck it.

invest in LIC is foolness. instead go for mutual fund, SIP.

Atul-Thanks for your views.

Jindagi sath bhi nahi chahiye

bad bhi nahi chahiye.

All products are bakwas including term plan of LIC.

What is the life ecpectancy calculation of LIC acturies I didnt understood.

Puri loot machake rakhi hai

LIC ko jano mere yaro….

Hi,

As per LIC site, i am not able to understand how they are calculating the scenario I (6%)and II (10%) amount.

https://www.licindia.in/special_plan_001_illustration.htm

can you please help me in understanding this?

Thanks,

Sudhir

Sudhir-What LIC showing the return of 6% and 10% is indicative return as specified by IRDA. This made mandatory for all insurers as it will give a clear picture how the product works in a scenario of 6% and 10%. But never ever be in wrong belief that LIC will give you either 6% or 10% return. Nothing is guaranteed and it is based on performance, bonus declaration or LA declaration.

Hi Sir,

I took jeevan saral policy in May-2010 for a monthly premium of Rs. 6125 for a term of 25 years. I took this policy at the age of 25. On my policy document MSA is given as 21,83,100 and my SA is 15,00,000. I pay policy premium on a quarterly basis.

I have a couple of questions on this,

1. Even though I am paying premiums till date, the payments were irregular and the policy got lapsed and revived for around 3 times in the last 4 year period. Does this affect the bonus or LA that I am going to receive after its maturity? Also, in LIC website, Vested bonus against my policy is shown as zero. What exactly does Vested bonus means?

2. Can you give me the approximate amount that I am going to receive after completion of 25 years and do you think if it is better to surrender the policy or continue ? Please advise an alternative financial tool where I can gain maximum benefits compared to jeevan saral if I invest regularly for 25 years with monthly amount of 6000 Rs.

Thanks,

Surya.

Surya-1) It will not affect your return part. Yes it is showing bonus as zero. Because this policy not contains bonus but Loyalty Addition.

2) It will be around 6%. Gaining maximum benefit depends on lot of things. So without knowing your financial life it is hard for me to guide you.

Hi Sir,

Thanks for the prompt reply.

1. The 6% you are saying is the gain on the MSA and that too after 25 years? The chart provided to me by the agent shows that I would receive around 81 lacs after a period of 25 years. Do you feel I should go for surrendering it? When you would suggest me to surrender?

2. My annual income is around 12 Lacs, and I am looking for an investment plan which would give good returns (long term investment of 25 yrs @ 6000 Per Month) as well as tax-benefit scheme under 80C. It would be great if that investment would cover me for insurance too eventhough I am contemplating of taking term policy.

Thanks,

Surya.

Surya- 1) 6% gain is not MSA but the premium you pay. This includes MSA+LA. Either believe your agents or facts shown by me. So decision is left with you. If you are planning to surrender then go ahead after 5th year.

2) My first advice is not to include insurance with investment. Buy term insurance of around Rs.1 Cr to Rs.1.5 Cr. Then based on your financial goals choose a plan. How much according to you is GOOD RETURN?

Hi Sir,

Thanks again for your reply.

1. Is there any blog entry by you to calculate the surrender value after 5 years of Jeevan Saral?

2. The definition of good return according to me would mean the following,

a. may be 15-20% for a long term investment of 20 years. ( Rs 6000 PM)

b. provides tax benefits under 80C

c. Guarantee for my money.

Thanks,

Surya.

Surya-1) Neither blog nor LIC officials know the values. If you can then check out by visiting LIC branch ๐ and this is the reality.

2) You are asking me to bring down moon on earth by asking imaginary returns of 20%, tax efficient and GUARANTEE. Do remember that each product have it’s own positive and negative side. Along with that return is always directly proportional to risk. So in one way you are expecting high returns and in another way you are claiming Guarantee of money. Only GOD or some agents who mis-sell can suggest you such product. Please be realistic and look around for products and do your own research. There is no magic wand neither in me nor with any expert of earth to provide and suffice all your requirements.

Hi Sir,

I opted for jeevan saral policy from 2010 Aug.

My Sum Assured mentioned in the policy document is 4,00,000

My Meturity Sum Assurance mentioned in the policy document is 3,12,000

As per your comments I understood that after completion of 5 years if I surrender 100% of meturity sum assurance will be payable to the customer.

In that After completion of 5 years if I surrender the policy I will get 3,21,000 not the amount which I have paied for premiums

Could you please correct me if I understood wrongly

Thanks,

Ram

Ram-Sir the MSA will be adjusted according to your term of policy. The said MSA is for the full term of plan purchased by you but not for 5 years. If that is the case then every one might have booked 200% profit ๐

Thank you for your quick reply!!! Appreciate your efforts!!!

In that case, can you please calculate the expected amount if I surrender after 5 years? or please share me the excel to calculate the returns at [email protected]

start date is Aug-2010, Base premium – 4800, mode- quarterly, my age when I took policy – 25

Thanks,

Ram.

Ram-I am unable to do so as I don’t have any data with me to calculate.

Please let me know the required details. I will provide.

for now,

My policy Jeevan Saral is Quarterly mode and paying 4900 every quarter.

I took this policy when I was 25, Aug-2010, SA is 400000, MSA is 3,12,000.

Please calculate the MSA after 5 years.

Thanks,

Ram.

Ram-Required details of not about policy details from your end or MSA calculation, but the LA rate which none (even LIC officials) not know. You can check it with LIC, they too don’t know about this ๐ This is the reality.

Hi Sir,

Out of 3 surrender options, which one they consider to calculate the returns if we surrender the policy after 5 years, do you any idea? Does the surrender option mentioned in the policy document?

Just curious about it:)

Thanks,

Ram.

Hi Mr. Basavaraj,

This is Imran here, 36 yrs old. I am a NRI, working & living in Kuwait (Middle East) for the past 5 years. Thanks for sharing the information regarding the LIC Policies. I’m actually new to this concept of LIC Policies, investments, mutual funds etc.

Family members – Me, my wife & a son (1 1/2 yr old).

I have taken Jeevan saral (165) policy through an agent in Hyd, in Aug 2013. The Policy details are as follows:-

Jeevan Saral (165) Policy Term – 21 years Date taken: Aug 17 2013

My Age at the time of policy: 35 yrs

Premium – Rs. 60,050 / year Premiums Paid – One ( Aug 2013- Jul 2104)

Sum Assured – Rs. 12,50,000

Death benefit sum assured – Rs. 12,50,000

Maturity Sum Assured – Rs 13,93,200 Policy Maturity Date: Aug 17 2034

Date of commencement – Aug 17 2013.

The Agent showed me Jeevan Saral ATM Plan chart that I would get 44 lakhs at the end of 21 yrs after taking a premium of Rs. 60000 per year. You can find this chart online too.

Example of the chart:- LIC Maturity calculated based on 10% I.R.R

—————————————————————————————————-

Term 250 400 500 750 1000 1500 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000

—————— ————————————————————————————————————————

1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

3 5122 8195 10244 15366 20488 30732 40976 61464 81952 102440 122928

……….

………..

21 223848 357833 447291 670938 894583 1341874 1709166 2683749 3578332 4472915 5367498

Do I really get this amount “4472915” after I complete 21 yrs of my LIC Plan? I know that the agent has lured me in taking this policy. What’s the approximate amount that I get at the end of 21 years?

Is it worth investing Rs. 60000 for this policy for 21 years?

How much Loyalty Addition would I get once I complete the 21 yrs term, If you have any Idea?

Any bonus will be there too?

Should I continue in this policy or opt out? As I have no idea about my future financial situation.

What is term plan, risk cover, investment, mutual fund, can you plz explain?

What’s the best option available for an NRI to put or invest the money in like mutual fund, investment, term plan?

Can I go for a health plan in India being an NRI?

I want to secure my son’s future too. Which plan should I go for?

Actually I’m new to this kind of concept, that’s why I have so many questions.

Please advice me in this matter. My Email ID: [email protected]

Thanks & Regards,

Imran

Kuwait.

Imran-I already replied to your earlier comment. Please follow the same.

Dear Basavaraj,

Thanks for all the information regarding the Jeevan Saral Policy Table 165. I have taken this policy in Aug 2013, after reading all the comments I have decided to drop out.

Premium – 60050 yearly, Premiums Paid – 1, Term – 21 yrs

Thanks for giving the Jeevan Saral LA amount for the 2013-14, as per the link provided by you.

Term – LA

10 – 375

11 – 400

12 – 425

……..

20 – 650

Will the LA amount Rs. 650 per 1000 SA be the same every year or increase or decrease?

Thanks,

Imran

Imran-It depends on LIC performance. But you can’t expect any wonders.

Hi,

Thanks for detail explanation. I have Jeevan Saral with Annual premium f Rs 490,000/=

What is maturity sum expected. I have taken this for 10 years.

Can you send me excel sheet for calculation [email protected]

Thank you

Rajesh

Rajesh-Do you have still confusion after reading the above post and below comments??

Dear Sir,

I have jeevan saral, and paid 5 premiums for 48000/year. If i do not surrender this policy and just let it lapsed. So would i get return what i have paid earlier. I can wait till next 5 years.

Please suggest as i am not in condition to pay more premiums and surrendering this policy at this stage would occur in lose of 50000 around to me.

Thanks in Advance…….

Viren-Contact LIC branch and ask for both surrender as well as paid up and then decide based on your comfort.

Hi

Can you please let me know how Loyalty Addition is calculated for Jeevan Saral for 20 year policies

IS it that every year if they declare some amount say 250 than LA will be added every year till 20th year

Thanks

Dhimant Shah

Dhimant-It is not payable on yearly base. It is one time payment and will be payable either on death or maturity.

Hi..

I took jeevan saral at age of 23.

SA = 9,00,000

Half yearly payment = 21834

I have already paid 7 installments of premium (3.5 years).

I want to convert this policy into paid up policy.

I have heard that your sum assured is reduced, but you will continue to get benifits of loyal addition.

Q: is it so?

Q: Do i need to pay premium after 10th year, to continue the policy. I want to continue by paying low premium, is it possible>??

need your quick advice,

Also let me know the pros and cos of paid up policy in my case..

Thankk

Pratik-Paid up will be useful when you are about to end the policy term but not at early years. So better to opt for surrender. Are you so much interested in this plan which even if you complete 10 years will give you not more than 5% return??

Hi basvaraj

I have jeevan saral policy, SA = 9,00,000, 21834 Half yearly payment.

I have already payed 7 installments of premium (3.5 years). I have read you can convert this policy into paid up policy.

I know that maturity sum assured will be reduced to nearly 1/3rd, if i do so.

Q: whether will continue to get the loyalty addition after 10 years, if will continue paying premium (reduced premium )after 10 years??

Q; According to my agent, my policy will get lapsed after 5 years, if i wont pay any premium.

I want to get out of this policy as it is hardly giving any returns.

I need your help..

Thanks

PC^

PC-Better to pay till 5 years completion then surrender it.

Thanks Basavaraj for reply.

I read in the bond document that partial surrender is possible after 3 years of the premium payment.

Minimum premium to be paid has to be 3000 p.a.

Does that mean LIC will give us rest of the premium back?? (which is nearly 40,000 p.a )

Does LIC really allows so? My LIC agent told me a shear NO..!

According to me, if i partially surrender it, it wont be a bad deal..!

Because i would lose a good amount of money now, or even after 5 years..

Pls advice.

Thanks in advance..

Pls advice

Sir, I have taken Jeevan Saral..Yrly Permium Rs.60000/- Term- 35000/-.

I have paid 3 Premiums. ( I also have Pension plans with LIC. ) . However looing at approxx. return of 7% , i would like to surrender this. Kindly inform shall i wait at least till 2 more yers and ten surrender the policy after completion of 5 yrs. Or Right now also ok.

Thansk.

Prashant-Better to wait for 2 more years.

Sir,Whts the advantage. I will be any way loosing the first permium/ min one even after i surrender after 5 yrs.. I think in this policy for no loss is not possible for min 10 yrs. i.e. only after 10 yrs – no paid premium is deducted even if i surrender the policy.

kindly advice.

Prashant-If you wait for 10 long years then return will be less than 4%. So is good? Best option is to stay away after 5th year.

No Sir.I dont want to wait for 10 yrs.What i am asking is shall i surrender it today?- as I have already paid 3 premiums – today my loss will be 30% – if i surrender.. However if my knowledge is correct – then even if i continue for two more yrs and then surrender it after 5 yrs. – still i believe i will loose the first premium whicch is around 60000/-.. My exact qn. is — whats the advantage of paying 2 more premiums – wait for 5 yrs to complete and then surrender.. Pls pls advice. ( As such if at least some benefit is ther.. I can afford to pay two more premiums) Thanks.

Prashant-Better to wait for 2 more years and then surrender.

Dear Basavaraj,

I have Jeevan Saral for annual premium of 40,000 for the period of 35 year and I have already paid 7 premiums. I am wondering is it best to surrender the policy or continue for 10 year to get the loyalty bonus.

Your advice would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks

Tanmany-Better to surrender now.

Hi Basavaraj,

Greetings !!

I have one Jeevan saral plan and I`m paying 65000 PA , Just need your advice if this is really worth to continue ?

How much I can expect after completion of 10 years ?

Regards,

Varun

Varnu-It is worth if you are satisfied with return of around 4% to 5%. It is worth if you feel your insurance coverage from this plan is suffice. Otherwise it is BIG NO product.

Hello Sir,

I have two LIC policies: –

1. Jeevan Anand : For 30 Years : Premium : 2519 quarterly : Paid 17

2. Jeevan Saral : For 35 Years : Premium : 7656 quarterly : Paid 11

Sir, my questions are following: –

1. Do I need to stay with both policies?

2. What are the maturity value for both policies?

3. Planning to invest 1500 monthly for 10 – 12 years, so what is the best option.

Please advise.

Thanks,

Abhishek

Abhishek-Please understand that if you are totally satisfied with the return of around 6% to 7% by go on investing for around 30-35 years then you can continue. Otherwise you need to think seriously. Option is left with you.

I have taken Jiwan Saral policy ( Table-165) in Aug’2008 half yearly premium Rs.24240.00 . Already others policy purchases from Various Insuarnce Company also,total sum insured Rs.22 lacs.Now I want surender of Jiwan saral policy,because return after 20 years from LIC Rs.18-19 lacs from this policy.If I invest this amount in PPF return after 20 years Rs.27.00 Lacs. Now Jiwan saral plan continue or surennder. OR Open PPF account insted of LIC Jiwan Saral Plan .Please advice/Suggest to me for

Joydev-Please read below comments fully.

Dear sir,

I am 20 years old student and also doing job in LIC.My monthly salary is 10000/month.I am looking for my family future and also mine.So, please suggest me some financial planing for me.

Vivek-First buy online term insurance of your choice for around Rs.20,00,000. Create around 6 months of household expenses as emergency fund and keep it in Bank FD. Buy health insurance to you and to your dependents. After this we can discuss regarding investing and all.

Dear sir,

Thanks, but i am already taken a anmol jeevan plan of LIC, and sum assured is 8 lac and also my father done 1 lac FD in SBI on my name 3 years ago.after paying my premium of anmol jeevan 10000/m is my in hand sallary.

So, please suggest me a good type of financial planing.

I want in my 40 years age,I have around 40 to 50 lacs in my name.What type of planning is better for achive this goal.Because if i am investing in LIC,it’s not possible.So,please suggest me sum FD and PPF or other investment area.

Vivek-Suggestion is to increase your sum assured from Rs.8 lakh to Rs.15 lakh at least. For this I suggest you to go for LIC’s online plan which will be cheaper than what you are paying now. Second thing, buy health insurance for your family. Next start investing in PPF around 30% of surplus, rest in the mutual fund like Franklin India Bluechip Fund (G) or HDFC Top 200 Fund (G)

Hi,

I have a query, I took the LIC’s Jeevan Saral policy in 2012 .

Monthly I’m paying 3062 Rs and policy term is 25 (is policy term means no. of years?) .

Could you please tell me what I will get after the completion of this policy?. What will be the return percentage.?

Then only I have to decide ,whether I need to continue or not.

Thanks

Rajesh-Yes policy term means no. of years. After maturity you will receive MSA+LA. Return will be around 5% to 6%.

Policy no DOC Premium

903776951 08/07/2010 Rs.510/-

903776952 08/07/2010 Rs.510/-

903776953 08/07/2010 Rs.255/-

903590139 22/7/2009 Rs.510/-

Above mention details for jeevan saral policy.I want to know surrender value of above policies after 5 years and after 10 years.If the value is not tell clearly,than please tell me approximate amount,which i get after surrender.

Vivek-Let them complete 5 years then go for surrender.

Hi Basavaraj,

I have a LIC Jeevan Saral (165) policy which i took in February 2009 – monthly premium INR 3062 for 35 years. I have not been given any loyalty bonus (LA) till date on the policy.

Now that i have completed 5 years of premium payment, i wish to surrender my policy. However Iam not able to properly calculate the indicative/approximate surrender value of the policy. I request some help from you in this regard.

According to me, the guaranteed surrender value (GSV) is INR (3000*52 months*30%) i.e. INR 46,800

The Special Surrender value (SSV) is 100% of the Maturity Sum Assured (MSA) in this case, which Iam unable to calculate. Can you please explain to me the SSV taking certain assumptions for clarity.

Sidharth-LA will be calculated at once only. So as of now you have not received any LA. Regarding surrender valuation calculation at 5 years, I suggest you to visit LIC office they will guide you with MSA and eligibility of LA.

i want know , i alerdy complete 3.6 years ,my montly preium in 1021 , i wnat know if now i surrender what should be amount i get , policy no is 883990656

Anil-Please visit your nearest or servicing branch for the same.

Dear Basavraj

Jeevan Saral was launched in 2004. It has not completed 10 years yet then how the LA for 10,11,12 years are declared for maturity,death, surrender claim?

Kailas-Exactly….you need to ask LIC ๐

Hi Basavraj,

I had taken LIC Jeevan Saral policy . Here are the details:

Date of commencement – Feb 2007

Mode of payment – yearly

premium – 48040 Rs

Age at the time of buying policy – 25 years

Duration of policy – 20 years

So in Feb 2014, it has been around 7 years since I have been paying annual premiums for it. However, I am confused whether I should continue this policy for whole 20 years and expect some good returns or should I discontinue it now .

There was a chart prepared by my agent considering 10% Projected Investment Rate of Return according to which after 20 years I might get around 21 lakhs.

Can you please let me know if this looks realistic or was just a marketing stunt from him to sell the policy.

Also please let me know that when the maturity sum assured is already fixed at the start of policy, then how does this interest rate affect the final sum which we receive in Jeevan Saral.

Really looking forward to your guidance on this.

Thanks

Tarana-Even if you continue till policy end then you can’t expect more than 6% return from this policy. So better to surrender it now itself. It was indicative return what your agent showed you but not GUARANTEED. But the reality is that after agents expenses of around 35% in first year, 7.5% in second and third year and 5% after that, will you still hopeful that this plan will generate even 7% return??

MSA is like SA, it equals to around or more of paid amount. But real yearly addition is loyalty addition which changes year on year based on LIC’s declaration. So eventhough MSA is fixed, depending on LA your returns from this policy fixed. Now ball is your court to decide.

Hello,

i’m 26 years old now, Last year i’ve taken jeevan saral of Rs. 36630 / year. Now i get to to know about real insurance means and i would like to take a term insurance and i want cancel my jeevan saral.

Till now what i understood is i can only cancel this jeevan saral after 3 years on 30% loss OR i’ll get full amount after 5 years….Is that correct what i understood?

Kindly help me… i don’t want to loose my money.

Thanks…

Rehaman-Better to come out after 5 years.

Nobody knows what you will get after five years. It is not necessary that even you will get your total premiums paid for last 5 years???

Munendra-It is LIC’s responsibility.

Hello Sir. I took Jeevan Saral policy in Aug 2010. Half Yealy Premium= Rs 4852/- Sum Assured 2lac .I have paid 5 half yearly premiums(4852*5=Rs 24,260/- i.e for 2.5 years). After that i haven’t paid the premium. I want to surrender it. Currently i will get nothing as 3 years premium have not been paid. Now the LIC guys says pay the revival premium for the policy and then surrender to get some(80-90% of MSA) money back. Revival quote they gave me was of 3 half yearly premiums(4852*3=14556+100(late fee)) . So should i pay the revival premium to surrender in future or not to pay?Need your expertise, Thank You

Kapil-Before proceeding further ask them how much surrender you receive in case you pay the pending dues.

I did asked the question. They said “First Pay then only Surrender Value quotation will be available”.

Also in last month I did surrendered one of Jeevan Saral policy which was in dad’s name.

Its details..Annual Premium=Rs38,116/- paid for 3 years i.e Rs 1,16,448 After surrendering it i got Rs 71,050/-

which was around 80% of reduced MSA(82,000) .By corresponding this policy to current scenario I did some math and came with Rs 24,686/- surrender value payable.

Case 1: If I dont pay revival premium..in that case Rs 24,260/- loss

Case 2: If I pay revival premium ..in that case Rs 16,740/- loss(as total premium s paid will be of Rs 40,000/-)

Is it worth paying the revival premium as per my calculation??? Waiting for your reply.

Kapil-Then which loss you say greater?

The,26 case i dont pay revival premium loss would be 24,260 Rs would be greater comparitively to.

If i pay revival premium Loss would be around 16,000.

Whats your suggestion??What should I do??

Kapil-Then go ahead for payment and surrender it immediately.

Thanks for the reply

Got the surrender value of 26,165 rs after total premium amount paid of 38816/- whose MSA was Rs 29,248.

Kapil-Check the same with your nearest LIC branch too.

Dear Sh. Basavaraj,

I am also a person who have done this mistake. Can u please tell me how much amount i will get if i surrender this policy (Jeevan Saral) as i have paid my 3 policy years @ Rs-24000/- per annum and next is due on August, 2014. Sum auured amount was shown Rs- 5 lac. Please also suggest should i continue or not.

Regards

Rahul Sharma

Rahul-Better to continue until it completes 5 years then surrender.

I took Jeevan Saral Policy : Plan -165 below are the details of the plan.

Term : 25 years

Date of Commencement : 28/03/2012

Inst Premium : 6125(monthly)

Mode : Monthly

Sum Assured : 15,00,000

Age when plan started : 25

Could you please give me the exact maturity amount?

Also please let me know if it is good to continue with this policy? If not, when should I plan for an exit?

Siva-Siva-Please go through below comments, you find numerous examples to arrive at % of return. Your return of this plan will be around 6%. Better to discontinue once 5 years completion.

Sir,

I like ur suggestions and I have a query for you. Im a bit late but still my question is, can I switch my Jeevan Saral plan with some other lic plans and what is the appropriate time for doing so…….

Shomu-It is like coming out of one mistake and doing a one more. So come out of Jeevan Saral, but buy a term plan than typical traditional plans.

Hi Sir,

I took Jeevan Saral Policy : Plan -165 below are the details of the plan.

Term : 22 years

Date of Commencement : 21/12/2010

Inst Premium : 24,260(Half Yearly)

Mode : Half Yearly.

Sum Assured : 10,00,000

Age when plan started : 21

Could you please give me the exact maturity amount?

Is it good to continue with this policy?

Regards,

Chanakya.S.

Chanakya-You can predict around 6% return.

Sir, I took Jeevan Saral policy when I was 60 yrs. Annual Premium Rs. 48040. I paid 10 annual premiums and now when I gave policy for discharge i.e on maturity , they told me that i will get only between 1.50 lakhs to 1.90 lakhs. I was promised by the development officer that I will recd more than 6 lakhs from lic on maturity. I have got a written presentation from him and on that basis i took this policy. Now it seems that LIC and its officers have cheated millions of people like me by mis-selling the policy based on some fancied returns projected by them.

Pls help me as to how should I recover my premium paid of Rs.4.80 lakhs from LIC or its agent

Shah-Sorry for your state because of few officials. But this is the reality. They sold you to increase their sales. You already paid the premium and there is no wordings on LIC bond which states the said return of Development Officer. If you have the written presentation with you now then why can’t you contact the branch or divisional office raising the issue. Please let me know whether you have any such presentation or not to guide you further. It is shocking that at this age you need to bear such losses.

Sir, I do have the presentation which my agent gave me and it is lying in my file for last 10 years. On that basis , I put in the money. Now the LIC agent is also shocked that such less amount is given on maturity by LIC. He says that he also was not knowing regarding this.

However, in laymans terms, agent has earned hefty commission , LIC has eaten the premium amount in 10 years. I guess due to Jeevan Saral marketing , lots of people are going to loose lots of money and this is clear Cheating on the part of LIC. Something needs to be done against LIC and its officers / agents.

Shah-See the duality in agent’s mind. While claiming such high return I think he forgotten how much hefty commission he is eating. LIC never said that it give you such high return. But few agents or officers did such things to grab business. Let him be responsible for what he claimed. Otherwise remind him that you can sue him.

Ok, I will find the legal recourse by consulting my lawyer. However , I wish to point out that I had purchase the same policy for my wife, but the duration is 15 years i.e. it will matured in 2019. Pls advise whether I should surrender it right now since premium is paid for 10 years or wait for maturity.

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

Shah-Better to come out of the plan is best solution. You can’t expect any drastic change in return.

Hi Sir,

I’m 31 years old, I have 2 kids below 3 years. I’m planning to take useful money back or term policy for my family safety. Please suggest one good policy.

I also have Jeevan saral policy from 2011.

Commencement Date : 24/05/2011

Sum Assured : 12 Lakhs

Policy Term : 15 Years

Plan : Jeevan Saral (T.No.165)

Premium : 14,700 Quarterly

Premium : 58,800 Yearly

Policy Expiry Date : 01/May/2026

As of now 3 years completed, I know it was waste paying this policy. It was taken by my father-in-law for my wife in her name since the agent suggest this was one of the best policy in LIC.

After seeing your review, I’m planning to surrender this policy on the completion of 5th year (ie, May 2016).

If Could you please suggest me whether i can go for closure and take good policy for my kids.

Thevendhiran-Better to close and buy term insurance. Once your insurance need are fulfilled then go ahead with investment planning by choosing the right product.

Hi,

I must appreciate your efforts to bring these complex calculations to a layman.

You have mentioned ” I am working on this chart and soon will upload the whole Basic Maturity Sum Assured Chart.” Is this chart available?

Priyanka-Thanks for your kind words. I dropped the idea of uploading the MSA chart because currently this plan is not available for sale. Also finding your MSA will not be a big issue. If you visit any nearest branch with policy documents then they will let you know.

Hello Sir,

I have taken Jeevan anand policy in 2007 and my age was 24, and yearly premium is 21000/- term-16 years, Sum Assured- 300000.

How much amount i can expect on maturity.

Thanks In Advance.

Padmavathi-It will be around 6%-7%

Dear sir, i started the Jeevan Anand plan of LIC in the year 2010 with sum assured of Rs.2500000.00 for 25 years.I have been paying a yearly premium of Rs.1,03,114.00 since then and needs to continue till 25 years is over. I was told that i will get an amount of app. Rs.72,00,000.00 on maturity while the sum assured amount shall be paid to my family in case of my death. However, till date no such documentary proof has been provided by LIC or the agent about this Rs.72,00,000.00. Now i am worried amout the maturity value. Kindly give your expert comments & suggestion regarding the same.

Bhaskar-Please go through below comments you will get fair idea. You may expect around 6% return.

Hello Basu !!

First of all let me appreciate all your efforts that you are putting in educating all of us through these blogs !!

I have gone through this complete blog and I got much more clarity on Jeevan Saral.

I still havent got a clear picture on one point.

How should I calculate “Maturity Sum Assured” (without any loyalty additions) for this policy for a specific term say 10 or 15 years and for a specific age of the person.

So if I have taken a polcy in year 2010 and my current is 31 years and my annual premium is INR 48040, how can I calculate my maturity sum assured after

1) 10 years

2)15 years

3)20 years

4)35 years etc..

Is there any formula based on current age and the premium term?

Kindly guide me on this front.

Regards,

JJ

Jasraj-LIC have their own formula to calculate the MSA. Your MSA value available on policy bond. Usually the Basic MSA was disclosed by LIC, rest of the calculation will be done based on your basic yearly premium, term and age of proposer.

Hi Basunivesh

I am phanikumar from Hyderabad. I have taken Jeevan Saral policy on 31/12/2013 with term 35 years and premium of Rs 9187 quarterly. As per the information provided by you I got the difference from Death benefit Sum assured and Maturity Sum assured. In my document, it was specified as Maturity sum assured is Rs15,37,410 and Death benefit sum assured is Rs 750000.

Please let us know is this fix for 35 years term, as I have a plan to withdraw the policy after 24 years. Is the Maturity Sum assured vary if I had taken back the policy after 24 years. Also let us know if there is a chance that the Maturity Sum may go high.

As per your information above i.e. Basic Maturity Sum Assured will be calculated by age and policy term

multiply that to your Basic Premium. So, My age is 28, policy term is 24 and yearly premium is Rs36748 (9187*4).

So is my maturity value will be 28*24*36748=24694656 which will become more than the Maturity Sum assured.

Also let me know if after maturity will i get the all premiums paid also except 1st year.

Please suggest me on this as I have taken this policy for my daughters future.

Thanks,

Phani

Phani-MSA varies according to term of plan. So lower term means lower MSA. Also when you choose a plan like 20 years then this MSA for 20 years will be fixed and there is no variation on this amount. It changes only when you surrender before 20 years completion (will not increase but decrease). You are getting wrong on calculating LA on MSA. Please do read my above post in detail to get a better idea. It is wrong selection for your daughter’s future.

Hi Basunivesh,

Thanks for your reply. So can u please suggest any good policies for the child’s future and economical growth. I am interested in only traditional policies..

Can you please do the needful..

Also after reviewing your pages, I get to know investing in Equity and PPF will be more helpful for future needs. I have already taken a term plan in India firstlife for 40 years. So I am interested in improving economically only. So, is it fine to go for equity and PPF instead of Jeevan Saral..

Phani-Good choice but do remember that equity investment is for long term. Hence you can start investing monthly if your goal is of long term. PPF is the instrument which you can use for diversifying your investment.

Phani-Well choice….GOOD POLICIES, ECONOMICAL GROWTH and investment in TRADITIONAL POLICIES. Forget about your expectations from traditional plans. Also insurance must be in your name but not in your kid’s name. Because if something happens to you then your kid will suffer financial burden but in the reverse case. Sorry I don’t know the Traditional policy which can fulfill your kid’s dream. I think some agent may have such policies, as they are very much knowledgeable in showing exaggerated return to get business.

Thanks for your reply Basunivesh.. Could you please explain me a detail about PPF, how it is going to handle in risk situations..

Phanikumar-You can go through my post “All about Public Provident Fund (PPF)“.

Hi Basunivesh,

Thanks for your valuable suggestions. Could you please let me know if SIP (Systematic Investment plan) refers to Equity investment only. Also let us know is there any risks involved in Equity investment.

Phanikumar-SIP is a way of investment. So it may be any investment like equity, debt or even RD. Yes risk is there in equity market. But to mitigate that risk you must use the SIP tool, selection of good fund, periodic reviews and of long term waiting period.

Hi Basunivesh,

First i would like to say thanks to you for your advice. I am planning to take PPF account, but in our near by post offices it is not available. So, I plan to take PPF in SBI or ICICI Bank which is near by. Could you please let me know if there is any difference in interest rates in ICICI and SBI compared to post office..

Phanikumar-There is no change in features and return if you go with ICICI, SBI or Post office. Hence according to your comfort choose a banker.

Hi Basunivesh,

I am planning to save the money for my baby’s education and future (marriage etc).

Since we can save money in PPF only upto 15 years only, is there is another savings scheme which can give the same returns as PPF, so that I can plan two and fill my needs. Please let me know how National Savings Certificates (NSC) will work.

Also let me know your reviews on the SBI smart performer plan, is it any helpful.

Thanks,

Phani

Phani-When you are planning for your baby’s education and marriage, which in my view is of long term then why can’t go majority towards Equity Mutual Funds and part into PPF (as debt product). If you invest in PPF and again planning for NSC (which is again debt category and return is taxable) is not a good idea. Regarding SBI smart performer plan, it is a ULIP Plan and I am dead against mixing insurance with investment. So first buy a proper term insurance for yourself. Then based on your goal choose and start investing in products.

Thanks for your comments Basunivesh.. I already own a Term policy. Regarding Equity funds, after discussing with you even I am more inclined towards it but just checking for other options. Also let me know since PPF account is available in post office, Sbi, ICICI banks is it possible if I can take two PPF accounts in different banks…

Phani

Phanikumar-You can’t own two PPF account in your name. Even if you do so and afterward if they come to know then the second account will not earn any interest. So you can take your own risk for such activity.

Hi Basunivesh,

I have a doubt regarding the PPF account. I have taken the PPF account in ICICI bank before 3 months. My doubt is if after paying something risk happened to me, how much amount my family will receive. I am paying monthly 5k on every 1st or 2nd of the month.

Also when I am checking the PPF statement online in ICICI website, it was just showing the amount I am depositing every month. But not showing the interest I have received for the month and the cumulative calculations are not showing.

Is it will not show in the statements.

Please let me know.

thanks,

Phani

Phanikumar-In case of your death, your nominee will receive all the invested amount along with accrued interest. Your bank statement not showing interest, because they update interest part once in a year.

Hi Basavaraj

Any idea whether LIC has declared Jeevan Saral LA. This month Jeevan Saral has completed 10 years and i hope LIC will declare LA now.

Amal-The current LA rate will be available in my post “LIC’s Bonus rates for 2013-14 and Comparison“.

HI sir,

I have taken jeevan saral policy after years before.i am paying rs 12248 per year.this is the third year.will i get the money this year.if so how much will I get?

Prabhurams-Better to continue up to 5 years completion and come out of this plan. How much you get is the question answerable by LIC branch.

Sir,

I Purchased 3 LIC Jeevan saral policy 35 year plan This december 2013 of Rupee 2,50,000 Each SA. My Age is 34 Year & I pay Rs. 36000/ per year. I wise to recive 7,00,000 Lac rupee after 11 Years From this policy. Can I got this. Please Reply Me sir

Ajay-Sadly you can’t expect steep return from this plan.

I have a jeevan saral policy with the following details:

DOC:28/10/13

Maturity:28/10/2029

quartarly premium:15312/-

What is the lumpsome amount I am going to receive after maturity?

Pratyay-Please go through below comment, you will get an idea. Your return will be around 7%.

Hi Basavaraj,

I bought Jeevan Saral in Nov 2011 (Age 26 yrs on Nov 2011).

My yearly premium is 48040 and Term is 20 years.

My husband (31 years on 2011).

Yearly premium 48040 and Term is 15 years.

Can you please suggest following:

1. Maturity value for both of us?

2. If both of us should surrender it or one can retain (may be 20 years policy) ?

3. Whats gud time to surrender? Before next due date (may) OR now OR after Nov 2015 (After 5 years)?

I would really appriciate your advice.

Regards

Ritu-From below comments you might have already got a fair idea about returns from this policy. So my assumption will be around 7% from this plan. Hence surrender both the plans once they complete 5 years. Doing the same mistake for the rest of the period is not a wise decision.

hi sir,

my age 22. i got Jeven Saral for 30 yera term.

my premium 510 per month.

as per your above clerification i am confused.

how much i get after maturity.

Niles-What is your confusion?

sir,

after 30 yers how much amount i will get garateed. (jeevan saral)

monthly instolment Rs.510/- with accident benifit.

above your giving information Sum Assured are not fix. , so i want to know about my maturity benifit.

Approx 4.5 – 5.0 lakhs

Hi ,

I have a Jeevan Saral policy for which I am paying Rs.46,452.00 per year. i paid my 5th installment on 11.02.14.

1) Please tell me the best time to surrender it. Now or after 31st Mar 2014 or in January 2015 before the next due date of 11.02.2015. ( what is special surrender value, is this including any LA or Loyalty Bonus)

2) As if today my surrender value informed over the phone to me by LIC is 173001.00 ( what a joke!!!) I am in no mood to continue.

3) is it possible to continue it without paying any premium and surrender it any time.

Please advise and answer all my question as my next step will be based on your reply.

Regards

Sandeep

Hi Sir,

Eagerly waiting for your reply, so that I can take the move ahead.

Regards

Sandeep

Hi Sir

Please reply to my query.

Regards

sandeep

Sandeep-Sorry for delayed reply. Below are my answers to your doubts.

1) Once you complete 5 policy years then go for surrender.

2) It is best decision what you are planning to do. Because even if you wait then you will not get more than 8% return from this plan.

3) I don’t think it is wise to stop paying and receive amount at maturity (which is also called paid up of policy). This waiting will be useful when you are nearer to completion of policy term. Hence in your case it is too far. So don’t opt for this option.

Hi Sir,

‘Thank you for your reply.

1) I am bit surprised why the amount is so less. I thought it would be 46,452*5=2,32,260 – 46,452(1st yr premium) = 1,85,808. But was shocked to know that the amount is Rs.1,73,001. Do you have any idea why this amount is so low as compared to Rs 1,85,808 .

2. The person from LIC said that if I surrender it around Dec’14 the amount will be bit more then Rs.1,73,001. He talked about some factor thing.

Please advise.

Regards

Sandeep

Sandeep-

1) They have formula to arrive at surrender value, paid up value or special surrender values. So they just follow it.

2) I am not sure about the calculation he did. If it is beneficial for you then definitely go ahead. But get the exact confirmation about the claimed amount of that guy and postpone.

Hello Mr Basavaraj Tonagatti,

I had taken jeevan saral policy in March 2010 with Quarterly premium of Rs 6125/-

The policy is of 10 years. it means it will be matured in year 2020.

At the time of subscription to this policy my age was 25.

May i please know what output i will get after it gets mature.

your kind assistance is rquested please.

Regards

handeep

Handeep-I think by below comments you already got a fair idea about the return from this policy. But I still maintaining that you will receive around less than 5% if the term of policy is 10 years.

Hi,

I have taken Jeevan Saral policy in 2010 for a S.A of 2,50,000 RS at an yearly premium of Rs 12010. Currently my age is 29.

please tell me how to arrive at the maturity benifit of this plan.

Thanks

Srikanth

Srikanth-Provide me your age when you took this policy and term of plan.

Hello Sir,

My Age was 25 when I have started this plan . Policy term is 20 and the policy started in 2010 March ( Paid 3 installments till now , Yearly payment).

Thank you very much for your response.

Srikanth-MSA depends on your age while buying, term of policy and premium you will pay. Based on your data, MSA will be Rs.2,78,140. This MSA chart will be easily available with all agents. You can cross check my amount with your concerned agent also.

Hi Basavaraj,

It is really a pleasure to have such a good knowledge sharing from you.

I need to know the expected returns for me,Details are as given below.

Policy Name:- Jeevan Saral.

My age when i took this planwas:-28 yrs.

Yearly installment:-60050/-

Plan term is:- 20 years.

Total Maturity Sum Assured:-1250000.

Can you pls help me calculate the amount which i would be getting @ of maturity.

Aftab-Currently LIC declared LA for term of 10,11 and 12 year policies. So going by current trend we can presume LA Rs.650 for Rs.1,000 MSA. So you will receive Rs.12,50,000(MSA)+Rs.8,12500 (LA @ Rs.650 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.20,62,500. Return on invest 5.35%.

I have taken a Jeevan Saral Policy during the last period of closing of the policy during December 29th 2013. The sum assured is 8,75 lacs with 10 years and 15 years each of Rs. 3573/= per month. When the policy arrived the MSA is 365085, the Death Benefit sum assured is Rs. 875000 and accident benefit sum assured Rs 875000/- Can you please make me understand how the amount of rs 365085 has been arrived and how LIC has come to this calculation since the total premium paid at maturity period of 10 years is 428760/- Is that the total amount at maturity is same printed int he policy bond. Or the maturity time bonus and LA will also be included in this amount. If the age of 40 years will have any difference in the maturity amount.

Krishnan-MSA is based on your age at the time of policy buying, term of policy and premium you pay. They have calculation on which they arrive at this values for each individual. SA which is also a death benefit during policy period is usually 250 times of your monthly premium. In this plan, as I mentioned above you will receive MSA+LA only but not any bonus. Hence if we include the LA to this MSA then you may receive the return from this policy around 7%.

Dear Sir,

I have jeevan saral plan for 16 yrs.

I am paying yearly premium of Rs.24,020/-

I have completed 05 years.

I want to know the surrender value.

I am not going to pay further premium.

Nitin-Please contact your nearest branch.

Sir, I’ve taken LIC Jeevan Saral during Feb’2010. My age that time was 29 Yrs completed.

Yearly instalment Rs. 30,025. Insurance period: 20 Yrs (Maturity Year: Feb’2030). Sum Assured: 625,000.

I’ve decided to surrender this policy. From the above comments It’s clear after 5Yrs surrender penalty will be min.

Whether 1st year i.e., Feb’2010 will be considered as a year? After paying Feb’2014 Or Feb’2015 I’ve to surrender. Pls give your invaluable feedback. Kindly thanks in advance.

Saravanan-Your policy will complete 5 years after Feb 2015.

Sir, Thanks for your reply.

Now I’ve paid INR 120,000 (Including first payment). But surrender value is INR 82,000 (Approx.)

After paying premium in Feb’2015 Total amount paid will be 180,000.

Will I get around 180,000 (After 5 Yrs). or Same as now 38,000 will be reduced. Pls suggest.

If around 38,000 will be reduced. I’ll surrender now itself.

Regards,

Saravanan B

Saravanan-May I know how you arrived at Rs.82,000 value? You will definitely receive the lesser amount than what you paid. But I am unable to quote the exact amount.

Sir, The amount 81,990 exactly, data given by Authorised LIC office.

I understand i’ll get less. But there is difference between 38,000 (current loss) and around 5,000 may be after Feb’2015.

If I surrender after Feb’2015 will they pay back first payment also Pls..

Saravanan-If you surrender after 5 years then it will be treated as the plan of 5 years and you will get benefit accordingly. May I know which first payment you are talking about? I think it is about first premium payment what you paid, no in that case they already mentioned clearly that, if your complete 5 years then 100% MSA+LA will be payable but not your first year premium.

Basavaraj: I think after 5 year only 100% MSA will be payable and not LA upto 10 years. After 10 years LA will also be payable for surrender case. Please confirm and let us know. I am also thinking of surrendering my policy but confused whether i should surrender now (after 3 years) or after 5 years.

@Saravanan: You need not to pay 6th premium if you plan to surrender after 5 years. So in total you just pay 30000*5 = 150000 only including first payment and surrender anytime after 5 years from the date you paid your first premium.

Indra-It is clearly mentioned in Special Surrender value option of this plan that it must be a+b. Below are options in “a”.

1) 80% MSA in case of less than 4 years, 2) 90% of MSA in case term is between 4 years and 5 years, 3) 100% of MSA if paid for 5 years or more.

Now in point “b”, they mentioned as below.

The Loyalty Additions, if any, for the term for which the policy has been in force, as announced as at 31st March immediately proceeding the date of surrender.

Now it is clear from above two statements that after 5 years, you are eligible for MSA+LA. Hope I cleared your doubt ๐ That is why I recommended to surrender after 5 years to get full advantage of surrender.

Today I paid 5th premium. So I completed 30,000*5=150,000. I’ll wait for more one year and surrender the policy.

Thanks for both of you. As I’ve taken good decision based on your input. However there will be loss, but it will be minimum..

I have received intimation regarding Jeevan Saral Policy. Gross amount payable is shown as Rs.46240.00, (payable on 20/03/2014). I have been paying yearly premium of Rs.4804.00 since 2004 and last premium was paid in March 2013. The basic amount is shown as Rs.36992.00 & Interim Bonus is Rs.9248.00? Should it not be Rs.48040.00 (the total 10 yearsโ premium deposited by me with LICI)??? I have asked LICI to clarify but they are silent. Could you kindly throw some light on the matter. Thanks.

Thomas-I am unable to understand what is your exact doubt. You are saying that you received letter from LIC stating that amount payable of Rs.46,240, whether this is from your end or from LIC. Also please provide policy details (except policy number), to guide you in a better way.

Hi,

I’m paying 6125 quarterly for jeevan saral and i’ve taken it for 30 years. Could yo pls. tell me how much will I get at the end of 30 years.

Please tell me the amount i’ll get if I close the policy after 15 years.

Rajesh-In both the cases your return will not be more than 8%. So now the decision is left with you whether to continue or not.

Dear Basu,

I have also took Jeevan Saral in July 2011.

Per month I am paying Rs. 1633/-.

SA is Rs. 4,00,000/-.

I was know – (This above SA value i will get after policy maturity in 2046. For 35 Years I have taken. + Bonus Amount which calculating by Rs. 250/- amonut. So by looking jeevan saral chart, i was know that i will get Total Rs. 30 Lacs)

Now, After Read your article – (SA will only the amount which will get my family if I loose my life. That’s it.)

(Great Word explantion from You.) (And In shock now for dont understand what amount i will get in 2046.)

I have talk on this matter with my LIC agent many a times, but never understand the concept.

God bless you for making people understand and Hats of your study.

I have read in above, some post you have mentioned that surrender after 5 years so we will get full surrender value.

a) I dont know how you have calculate surrender value? b) if above my policy details is also match for surrender policy after 5 years then I will plan to do that in year July 2015 OR should I continue only If i will get an amount on above Rs. 10 Lacs in 2046.

Mr. Basu, You are highely appriciated, to pls answer on above..

And I appriciate your list of answer’s and patience you have to explain people.

Thanks for good post. Awaiting for answer. Thank You.

Pankaj-If you complete 5 years in this policy then the policy term will be treated as 5 years. Hence no surrender but maturity at completion of 5th year. That is what I said. If you are satisfied with the kind of return (around 7%) by investing for 35 years then you can do so. Otherwise you can come out from this plan after completion of 5th year.

Dear Basavaraj,

Thank you for this wonderful article. My parents were sold two policies of Jeevan Saral by a pushy agent in 2010 and I had been paying the premiums for a few years. Generally I do not invest in instruments that I donโt understand, but this policy seemed too complicated and I did not scrutinize it, rather trusting the agent. The next installment is due in March and today I tried to make sense of the policy again, and your article came to my aid.

Here is the scenario. I have two policies with annual premiums of INR 30,025 each, term 30 & 35 years each, and MAS 11,23,500 & 13,18,535 each. I have paid 4 premiums to date with 5th is due in a couple of months. I am in need of advice, whether

a) To surrender the policy immediately

b) To pay this (5th) installment and then surrender

c) To pay till 10th year

I am NOT okay with the returns of this pan, and will be careful with insurance in future. Please advice.

Best Regards,

Kris

kris-Pay the fifth installment and surrender. But at the same time don’t forget to have proper life insurance on your life.

Dear Basavarj,

Thank you for the quick and short reply. I have been trying to obtain the surrender value after the 5th (next) instalment from various LIC helplines but without luck. The current surrender value is INR 81,118 (against premium paid today INR 120,100) and I want to be sure that paying the next instalment will minimise my losses.

i. Would you any source from which the future surrender value can be obtained/ calculated?

Best Regards,

Kris

Krish-Sorry to say that I don’t have any source to help you. But instead of calling to helpline numbers. I suggest you to visit personally to your nearest LIC branch or servicing branch and ask for the details.

No problem; I will visit the branch or try to get it from the agent who sold it to me.

Thanks again for your help.

Regards.

Dear Basavaraj,

Sorry to keep bothering you, but could please elaborate on the reccomendation to exit the plan after 5 years? Will it not be better to wait till 10 years and avail the LA benefit?

Can the loss of LA gains be offset by PPF/FD investments(in the 5yr to 10yr period)?

Regards,

Kris

PS: I understand it’s not possible to predict LA.

+1 to Kris’s question. I also wanted clarification on same thing.

Kris-Advantage of Jeevan Saral is it’s liquidity option than other plans. If you opt out of this plan after 5 years then the term of the plan is considered as if 5 years and you receive all benefits available for 5 years term policy. Hence, I don’t think it is wise to wait for another 5 years by committing the same mistake.

Why you are sticking to only PPF or RD when your waiting period is around 10 years? Diversify your investment to equity too and generate the good overall return from your portfolio.

Dear Basavaraj,

Thank you. Termination at 5 years does not grant the policy holder LA benefits, which come into effect only at 10 years. Hence my doubt.

On a side note, it is confirmed that future (next year, LA inapplicable) surrender value cannot be predicted. So I will pay my fifth (next) premium, obtain the exact surrender value, and then take a decision.

As always, appreciate your help.

Regards,

Kris

Kris-Better you pay for 5th year payment then do your calculation of surrendering.

Thanks Basavaraj

Sir,

I have the Jeevan SARAL policy with yearly premium of 36000 for 20 years , My sum assured is 8,90,000 Rs .Sir , I have been told that Endowment plans are Bogus plans which give very little returns compared to PPF , I am 23 years of age and I have paid 2 installments .Sir, can you give me an idea of how much amount I will get after 20 years and please tell me if I should continue with this plan.

Mayank-No plans are bad if you bought it based on your requirement and understanding the details fully. But I totally agree that the plan you opted will not give you more than 7%.

How do I find my MSA ?

Furiabhavesh-MSA will be calculated based on your age while taking this policy, terms of the plan and your yearly premium amount. It is based on a formula set by LIC. You will find your MSA easily by contacting your LIC agents (they usually have the ready made chart).

Thanks Basavaraj. Is the chart which you are talking is the one in below link ?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5vDCRMiQyDE/UA_JeDyozvI/AAAAAAAAAAU/zL2R6tlisAM/s1600/1924_IMAGE0297.JPG

Furiabhavesh-Not this one. In this particular chart agent illustrated with return calculating at 10% which is impossible from this plan. You contact agent and ask for MSA chart but not maturity or other charts.

Thanks for confirming and helping.

I wanna surrender this policy (completed 3 years), according to you when should I surrender it which will give me minimum loss ? 3 years, 5 years or 10 years ? Currently, my risk taking capacity is high.

According to my agent, the returns will be +ve only after 10th year. Till then surrendering the policy will give -ve returns. So, is it wise to surrender it after 10 years ?

Furaibhavesh-Better to come out after 5 years. Waiting for 10 years and booking profit of around 4% is not wise.

Hi

I just wanted to know the good child investment plans. Presently, i am not having anything. My age is 29. Thinking of to save my money per annum in ppf upto 20 yrs for my son. Is this ok, or else, do we have any better plan.

Srinivas-First have enough life risk coverage (approximately around 15 times of your yearly income) by buying term plan. Then start investing based on your financial goals. If your goal is more than 20 years, then my suggestion will be to start investing in well diversified equity mutual fund. Keep PPF investment around 25% to 30% of your portfolio.

Hi Sir,

I have a Jeevan Saral policy from DEC 2009, I am paying quaterly premium of Rs.3062. I have few questions regarding this policy:

Is it advicable to continue this policy for 35 years?

If Yes, what will be sure returns + approximate bonus (if any) after completion of 35 years?

If I surrender the policy after completing 10 years, what will be sure return + approximate bonus (if any)?

Can I withdraw partial amount after completing 10 years and continue with the premium payment? If Yes, how much percentage can I withdraw?

Can I get a loan against this policy? If yes, how much percentage and the rate of interest?

Thanks,

Amit

Amit-1) Is it advisable to continue this policy for 35 years? -If you are satisfied with the return of around 7% after investing such long period of 35 years then definitely you can continue.

2) If you surrender this policy after 10 years, then return on investment will be less than 5%.

3) Partial withdrawal is not available. But you can have loan on this. Again, how much you get depends on the calculation and the term of your policy. So I can’t say how much you get loan amount after 10 years or 20 years onward ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

Thanks for your prompt response.

1)So what will be assured returns after 35 years? My age is 26 yrs now.

2)Also, we have other options like RD, PPF and SIP which will give better returns than 7 percent. So do you think investing in such option is better rather than Jeevan Saral?

Thanks,

Amit.

Amit-1) Even if you wait for such long then your return will be around 7%.

2) Yes, you are right.

Hi

I have paid 2 premiums of jeevan saral plan (table no 165). I want to discontinue it. can you please suggest me the appropriate time to discontinue it. When can i get full surrender value.if i want to surrender it.

Srinivas-Continue till 5 years, then discontinue.

Thank you

respected sir

i want to invest 3000 per month for 10 years ie 120 months, which one is better RD or SIP of SBI ?. or i would diversify in both, if i so then by what amount,

I will be grateful if you kindly suggest me the better scheme for saving in any banks for best return.

THANKS

Raju-Start investing Rs.1,000 in Franklin India Bluechip Fund (G), Rs.1,000 HDFC Top 200 Fund (G) and Rs.1,000 HDFC Prudence Fund (G).

Hi Basavaraj,

I just need ur valuable suggestion on difference between JEEVAN SARAL & JEEVAN ANANDH (RETIRE AND ENJOY) Policies

which policy will give a good return on investment of 25,000 per year for 30 years term & my DOB is 21/08/85

Here am looking for more return as well as risk cover.

Please suggest me on this am very confused…..

Thanks

Rajeev Chavan

Rajeev-There are slight differences. But lot of common features ๐ All of plans which mentioned by you are traditional plans and return will not be more than 7%. If you are satisfied with the kind of return then go ahead. Otherwise stay away.

Sir when you say ” 100% of MSA if premiums are paid for 5 years or more.”, does this means that I will get atleast the entire money that I have paid for those five yr or will there be a clause of “excluding 1st year” in this case also where i have paid the premium for 5 yrs or more.

Sandeep-MSA depends on your age, term (in this you may say 5 years) and the premium you are paying. So I can’t say outrightly that you will get what you paid.

Sir, I took this policy at the age of 34 and have paid 4 premiums, thus if i pay for the 5th yr or move, will i be getting 100% MSA with no clause of ” excluding 1st yr) or else.

Sir, I took this policy at the age of 34 and have paid 4 premiums, thus if i pay for the 5th yr or more, will i be getting 100% MSA with no clause of โ excluding 1st yr) or else. My premium is 46452 PA and term is 35 yrs

Hi Basavaraj…..

Much appreciated for this good postโฆ. If I could read this blog before Jan 2013, I would be choosing some other investment.

I have one Jeevan Saral policy which is commencement date is 05/01/2013 and the next premium date is coming Jan 2014.

When i check that bond recently, found that the calculated MSA and death MSA are not markable as told by the LIC agent at the time. So, I plan to quit this worst plan. Could you please tell me,

1. if i quit the plan in second year (not yet paid the 2nd premium) how much will i get ?

2. if I donโt pay the premium hereafter, what will happen?

3. Without paying the 2,3,4,&5th premium, can I go for the surrender after 5 years? Will I get the full amount (which I paid for 1st premium) with LA?

My Policy details:

Age: 28 Years (at the time)

Yearly Premium: Rs. 57448

Term: 16 Years

Thanks in advanceโฆ

Venkat.

Hi Basavaraj… wants to add one more point, my lic agent told, “The plan offers Auto Cover of 12 months after the policy has been in force for a period of 3 years and more”. what is this means????

Venkat-First understand, if you not present today then for how many days your dependents will survive with the payout LIC will give you. Please do serious thinking and decide.

Venkat-My answers are as below.

1) If you quit within 3 years then you will not receive anything.

2) If you don’t pay the premium hereafter then you need to forget about what you paid already and the policy will be in lapsed mode where you will not get any risk coverage.

3) No you can’t do so. You need to first pay till 5th year then you can opt for surrender.

I know it is hard to say that forget the amount already paid. But this is the reality you need to face-Either forget the money you already paid or continue paying (committing the same mistake). The choice is yours.

Hi Basavaraj, Thanks for your reply…. Could you please calculate, if i go for surrendar after 5 years, How much amount will i get MSA +LA=?

My Policy details:

Age: 28 Years (at the time)

Yearly Premium: Rs. 57448

Term: 16 Years

Venkat-I dont have data to arrive at MSA+LA for five years. Hence I suggest you to visit your nearest LIC branch for the same.

Hi Basavraju,

Greetings. I’m paying a premium of Rs 36,748/yr (Qly basis). I want to discontinue this policy as I have realized how stupid I was buying such a bad policy for my needs.

Date of commencement (I was 22yrs when I took this): 19/04/2011

Table : 165

Term : 25 yrs (Even though the agent convinced me that it is 10yrs only)

MSA : Rs 11,00,850

Please suggest me the best way out of this. I can push through two more years if I have to with a minimal loss by completing 5yrs. But then, I want to know how much would be my surrender value now(when i complete 3 yrs) and surrender value when I complete 5yrs?

I’m still wondering whether I’m eligible for Special Surrender Value (i.e., 100% SA after completing 5 yrs)

Eagerly awaiting your response sir.

Thank you..

Deepak-The best way to come out of this plan will be after 5 years. But I am unable to tell you the surrender value as I don’t have data to calculate the same. Hence if you need more help then contact your nearest LIC branch.

OK, can you give a bird’s eye view of amount I might get if I discontinue after 5 yrs?

One of the LIC agent said, I might get around 40k. But i’m still wondering what is this “Special surrender value” .. Isn’t that supposed to mean I can get 100% of money I paid back to me ??

How much will be my loss?

Please help.

Deepak-I am unable to give the nearer figure also. Because I don’t have any data to say so. Don’t believe agents especially when you are going for surrender. Instead contact the nearest LIC branch. Special surrender value for 5 years will be 100% MSA. But 100% what you paid. Again this MSA for years will be depend on your age and premium amount you are paying yearly. So I am unable to say exactly that you will get 100% of what you paid. But in my opinion “YES” you get what you paid with little extra ๐

Dear Sir, I am adequately insured (Rs. 1.5 Cr ) by term insurance plans of private companies – ICICI and HDFC. I am thinking of buying Jeevan Saral policy for my minor daughter (age=12 years). I understand she is not earning and strictly speaking does not need any insurance. However when i compare the returns as illustrated by an insurance agent, it beats FD / RD / PPF. Here are the details

Age: 12 Years

Sum Assured: Rs. 5 Lakhs

Yearly Premium: Rs. 24000

Tenure; 10 Years

Maturity Amount: Rs. 425808

This results in an IRR of 10.2 % (that too all maturity proceeds are tax free)

I have done investments in MF SIP / Gold/ PPF / FD and Jeevan Saral is just another means of diversifying. Is there anything wrong in my thinking, is the maturity guaranteed or wrongly projected by agent on higher side?

Ritesh-Please let me know or ask your agent what MSA he considered and what LA he took for calculation to arrive at this maturity value. Then we discuss further.

Hi Sir,

First of all, thank you for such crystal clear description of JEEVAN SARAL plan.

I am 22 years of age, and want to start this insurance cum investment plan.

After reading your post, I got to know that we are going to pay extra than what is written on paper for Premiums. Like: some amount more for YLY, much more for MLY, much much more for QLY, and same around for MLY also. Apart from this, If we are going for deposit via ECS(i.e. by direct deduction from bank accounts then we have to shed 5% more on our premiums every month); and that will prove to be a handsome burden in the name of policy.

I was wondering if you can help me with – how should I pay my premiums to save as much as I can, I know YLY will be answer(obviously), but again starting this policy would be burden on me to shed out so much money at once specially in starting.

Actually I was planning for 36000 per year premium, which I am not able to decide how to pay(YLY/HLY/QLY/MLY).

Could you please help me out here?

Thanks in advance.

Vishesh-Insurance premiums always will be paid before taking risks. So if you are unable to pay the premium at the start then the only option for you is, immediately start yearly RD. Start investing for a year. Once this RD matures then buy the insurance plan of your choice. If you do so then you save on insurance premium and you earn a bit by investing monthly. But again postponing insurance buying a year means the premium will increase. Think of that aspect also. Apart from this issue, are you sure your choice is best by clubbing insurance with investment? Think twice ๐

Respected Sir, Please advise me, I am planning to take Jeevan Saral ( plan – 165 ), why because it emphasis more on risk. No doubt I will take another policy i.e. ” Term Insurance ” My Age is 08.06.1961. would like to take up to 70 years. ( may be 18 years term) Monthly premium payment Rs. 2500/-. Please give your comments. I am looking RISK and as well as Small Investment even though 4 to 5 percentage.

Prasad-Before proceeding further let me know how you come to know that Jeevan Saral will emphasize more on risk? Can I tell you the simplest product to get the guaranteed return of 4%? PUT YOUR MONEY IN SAVINGS ACCOUNT where banks offer around 4% return. No risk…no fluctuation…everything is guaranteed. But NEGATIVE REAL RETURN=INTEREST ON INVESTMENT-INFLATION. Decision is your’s ๐

My reply

1)The purpose of investing in LIC plan is for good return + risk coverage and also tax saving.And LIc agent gave me the pamphlet having details of maturity amount against term.So i had just given you a example that preimium of 1000 per month for 30 years gives the maturity amount around 22lakh.

2)My concerns is : Being 24year old and taking a term insurance,the probality of survival till 60 is high.hence all my premium paid on term insurance will be lost.So which is the suitable policy which give me good returns+death benifits.

Abhishek-1) Please let me know what do you mean by good return? How much return according to you is a good return? Risk coverage-You will get term insurance at damn cheap prices these days then still you feel these traditional plans only have solution of covering your life risk? Also regarding tax saving-Do you feel LIC plans are only the best plans available in the market today to save tax? No dear friend…please change your mindset and do some research (even not believe me blindly also). Then you will come to know where you are heading. Please…

The agent gave you the details but have you cross check how this may be possible? I will assure you that from such traditional plans your return will not be more than 8% also.

2) Please let me know how you arrived at word called “PROBABILITY”? Yes you are right if you survive then you lose the premium you paid which currently cost you around Rs.500 per month. But have you thgouth what will be your dependents financial life without you in the future (after having a family). Life is uncertain so the first step of planning will be to cover those risks.

thank you sir for your reply..

Can you please suggest be a term insurance plan?Which i have to opt?500/- per month is so cheap really.

From LIC or any other firm whose claim settlement percent is high.

Abhishek-For your age considering the SA of around Rs.50,00,000 to Rs.1,00,00,000 I mentioned it may cost you around Rs.500. Buy online term plan from ICICI, HDFC, SBI or any of your choice. But buy it now itself. LIC doesn’t offer an online term plan. Hence it’s term plan is costly even compared with other insurer offline plans. So go with private insurer of your choice.

Hello Sir,

I had read your blog and come to know a lot about instruments available for investment in market.

Like first u should have a term insurance then some emergency fund and park rest of the money in safer instrumnets like ppf,fd etc or SIP in MF.

But for a wise investment i am posting my comment to you.

My age is 24years.I am only 1year experienced in a private firm.

My concerns are

1)31dec the plans of lic are ending like anand,saral etc.So can i plan to take one.?

2)I had approaced an LIC agent,even i had search a lot about their products.I found jeevan saral giving more return.Why is it so?Like investing 1000 per month for term 30years i can get 22lakhs.According to their chart.But this is a very huge return.How can i get this.This is just a fraud i think.

3)As i mentioned i am 24yr old.Is is good to take term insurance now?I am single yet.;-)

4)For SIP in mutual fund.Which product of which firm i have to go for.?

Waiting for your reply.

Thanks

Abhishek Saxena

[email protected]

Abhishek-My answers

1) For what purpose you are buying this plan? Only for the reason that this plan will not be available post 31st Dec? If this is the case then NO.

2) Is it possible to share the details related to what your agent is claiming of Rs.22 Lakhs? We will discuss then you decide yourself who is right and who is wrong.

3) Insurance is cheaper when you buy it at younger. Hence my strong recommendation will be to have now.

4) Selecting mutual fund for your investment involves lot of things like your waiting period, how much % of your portfolio in equity and what is your risk taking ability. So without knowing the basic things I am unable to guide you.

In one way you are claiming that what your agent shared with you are all false and at the same way you are asking me whether to go ahead to buy this plan or not. Please decide yourself first.

raju banerjee

sir I want to take pure term policy for 25 years . my age is 36 i would like to know from you frm where should i buy this from lic or from sbi? i m confused about the death clause

sir i want to make investment max 45000 PA where should I ? buying 100% pure bond or RD

RAJU-Buying term plan depends on your comfort with the company. So I am unable to say the best company to go for term plan. If you are so confused then split the SA among chosen insurance companies. So how you arrived at Rs.20L to buy term plan? Does it suffice for your family to survive in case of your sudden demise? I found the undecided move from your end like how much you want to save as in a previous comment (which I deleted as a duplication of above) you said (Rs.30,000 PM and here Rs.45,000 PM). So decide yourself first how much you are able to save and for what purpose this investment meant for. Then we may discuss further.

thank you sir for your quick response . sir i want to save Rs 45000 pa it was wrongly typed as Rs 30000 i arrived 20L keeping in view the yearly premium which i able to pay yearly. which is Rs 6783/- for 25 years though the purpose of my investment is to give financial protection to my wife and my only son after my demise. as i am self employed i have already three policies of lic.15 days ago i was duped by one of the lic agent he acknowledge me Table No 90 for half yearly payment Rs 20826/-. for 21 years. But when he gave me the deed it was Table 165 (jeevan saral) half yearly payment Rs21834/- but by the god grace i opted for free look cancellation and the lic has refund the amount after some deduction(Rs 21386) I had gone through several agents of Lic and SBI but when i gone through your comments i found that lic is not for investment and you had advise for term plan and PPF, which really touch my heart (thank you for your valuable suggestion). sir i want to know from you how should I diversify Rs 45000 PA for guarnteed maximum return?

Raju-You are able to pay for the existing three dummy products but not able to pay for term insurance? You are able to invest another Rs.45,000 yearly but not able to pay for term insurance? Raju…first have a proper term insurance on your life. You are claiming as self employed. So my first suggestion will be to have term plan, health insurance for family and accidental insurance for you. Then create an emergency funding of at least 6 months of your household expenses. Once these are in place then we discuss about the investment based on your financial goals. You are always welcome to discuss the issue related to your finance. Hence first have the above said products in your kitty then we start slowly. What you say??

thank you for your prompt reply, sir i had already an health insurance paying RS 4700/- pa for my wife,son and for myself, from last 3 years, I had also an accidental insurance from SBI paying RS 100 pa for me,and 3 lic long term policy and emergency fund in my saving account worth Rs 285000 in CBI and SBI A/c . sir pls guide me which and from where i will adopt proper term policy ?, is it better to purchase off line or on line? so that future disputes may not arise is there any hidden clause in term plan policy. which is the vital points should i take into considereration when i adopt pure term policy? all the agents either from lic or from sbi they give suggestion keeping in view of their own interest and the interest of their institution. you give free and fare suggestion keep it up sir . i m totally depend on you regarding pure term plan( for 25 years) and investment(RS 45000 pa) how should i proceed.?

Raju-Good to know that you planned for emergency. Buying term insurance-I suggest you to diversify your SA among HDFC, ICICI, SBI or LIC based on your comfort (among all above mentioned companies or based on your pick). Also suggest you to go for online by declaring all material facts they ask for. Most important thing is to share with your family about your investments and whom to contact when you are not there, especially with term insurance.

Rs.45,000 investment will be based on your financial goals, which is not proper to ask you to share on this public platform. Hence suggest you to drop a mail to me @ [email protected] by stating your objective and goals. I will definitely help you.

good evening sir,

I will be grateful to you if you pls clarify the reason of diversifying the SA among the companies regarding buying term insurance, though all the insurance body is regulated by IRDA.

Raju-In the current scenario of competitive pricing in term insurance, a risk to one company many not be a risk to another. Hence few companies are offering you term plan of Rs.50 Lakh without any medical test. Whereas few still follow the same. So if you end up having a term plan where your claim rejected due to some reasons then your dependent will suffer a lot. Instead if you diversify then you are spreading the risk among insurer. That is the reason I mentioned to spread your SA.

good evening sir,

can you state some chief reason under what circumstances the term plan policy claim may rejected ? recently i had visited some SBI and HDFC agents, I asked them about the death clause. they told me any type of death is covered under term policy, but if anybody commits suicide within one year then 80% of the premium is given to the nominee, and the policy will become null and void. but after one year all type of death including suicide is covered.and full SA is paid to nominee. Medical test is compulsory in SBI, But in HDFC it is compulsory for the age above 45 years and SA above 75Lacs. sir I want to take term policy for 20 lacs. sir at my current financial condition I want to end up having a term plan for my family cent percent full protection.so that i can fully relax as i am self employed person.

sir pls suggest me the companies which is most reliable and among which companies and what amount i will diversify 20L. But sir pls pls state some chief reason under what circumstances the term plan policy claim may rejected. I will disclose all the material fact honestly while filling up the form, beside is there any hidden clause?

I am giving one example for better understanding

suppose i had a nerve related problem, But at the time of taking policy i am normal. and i had not disclose it because i am normal from last 1 year. But after 5 years I died due to nerve related problems, will the claim be rejected?

Raju-Rejection of claim will be again based on case to case and company to company. So it is hard to say and list out the reason behind the rejection. But my advice to you is, disclose all material facts properly, don’t leave anything to hide from your end. Then I don’t think they have right to reject. Yes what you heard about suicide clause is correct and it will be same for all companies. As I said earlier, issuing a plan to you is again depends on company to company based on their underwriting estimates. Hence we can’t judge that too. But the best way is to have Rs.5,00,000 term with LIC, Rs.7,50,000 with SBI and Rs.7,50,000 with either HDFC or ICICI. At the same time, by naming these companies don’t estimate that I am fond of these companies. You can do your own research and buy also. But start with one plan and start to mention the existing covers in all future buying. So that they all know how much SA you already have.

Regarding the nerve related problem, if it is found that while taking plan you are 100% healthy and disease is post buying then no one can reject the claim.

Dear Basavaraj,

I checked the details mentioned in my Jeevan Saral Policy document while reading this excellent blog. My HLY premium for Jeevan saral policy is 19711 (19304.75 + 406.25) In my Jeevan saral policy document (which I purchased in 2011 at the age of 32, for the policy term 25 years), following figures are mentioned:

Maturity Sum Assured: Blank

Death benefit Sum Assured under main plan (Rs.): 812500

Accident Benefit Sum Assured (Rs.): 812500

Installment premium for main plan (Rs.): 19304.75

Installment Accident Benefit Premium (Rs.): 406.25

Total Premium (Rs.): 19711.00 (Half Yearly)

Policy Term: 25 Years

At the first instance which I found wrong here is Maturity Sum Assured in not mentioned. Is this usual for LIC or should I run to LIC for making this correct.

Second can you advice, if I surrender this after 5 years after making 5 year premium payments will it be a good decision, and how much will I get then.

or should I continue this till maturity, what will be the maturity value roughly after 25 years…

Thanks In advance..

I really appreciate your efforts for spreading so much awareness about jeevan saral and then only I came to know that for Jeevan saral seems to be a cheater policy and LIC agents is the worst caste in field of investment and most of them are picking our’s pocket just for thier huge commissions.

Eagerly waiting for your reply.

Thanks

Nikhil

Nikhil-No need to worry about not mentioning MSA on your policy bond. I don’t have data related to 5 year policies, so unable to comment. Instead what I suggest you is to contact your nearest LIC branch, they will definitely help you. Better you surrender it after 5 years. No need to continue the same mistake again and again for the rest of 20 years.

I have been investing Rs18000 per year in JIBAN SARAL POLICY , three years have been completed, it is a policy of 15 years my questions are ….i) if i surrender after 5 years how much i will get

ii) if i withdraw after 10 years how much to get

iii) if i complete 15 years or more how much i will get

Anupam- 1) You need to contact your nearest LIC branch on this.Because I don’t have data to arrive at any figure about 5 years policies.

2) If you withdraw at 10 years then return on investment will be around 4%.

3) If it is at 15 years then will be around 6% to 7%.

Dear Basavaraj,

I have take Lic jeevan saral in august 2012 with Rs 15312(15000+312) quaterly premium. As agreed with the sales person coming directly from LIC that terms would be 10 years for the said policy but on my LIC bond paper date of maturity is coming as 25.08.2033 which comes to 21 years, however the maturity sum assured mentioned on the LIC bond paper is Rs. 14,78,600.

so, what do you think is this maturity sum assured is for 10 years or 21 years.

Thanks,

Amit Aggarwal

Amit-It is not for 10 years but for 21 years. You need to check the term of the plan which is mentioned on bond claiming as 21 years and MSA also matches accordingly. Hence it is 21 years plan what your agent mentioned while buying plan. The simple reason is, he will get more commission by saying so than issuing you 10 years policy.

Hello Basavaraj,

Very informative blog, so i thought of writing you before investing.

i planned for Jeevan saral of Rs750000 with annual premium of 36030.

My agent told me i would be getting Rs2404440 after 20 years, i dont know exact MSA or LA.Even though he has given one pamphlet explaining premium & maturity.

pls help me is this really true? what would i get after maturity as per your calculation.

Thanks in advance.

Abhi

Abhishek-Before proceeding further, ask your agent what LA rate and MSA he considered to arrive at the maturity amount of Rs.24,04,440. Once you share this information with me then the real game of what is true will start. So hope you share this information with me.

Hello Basavaraj,

LA rate he told same Rs350 per Rs 1000. But for MSA he did not mentioned

i hope with this you can estimate roughly maturity amount after 20 years .

Thanks

abhi

Abhishek-MSA depends on your premium,term of policy and your age while buying. So without this information I am unable to calculate myself MSA. Either you provide these details or once again ask your agent about MSA he considered to arrive at above amount. Better you provide the information I asked for and we discuss about the actual return you may receive from this plan.

Premium – 36030 Rs yearly

term of policy – 20 years

my age 31 years

so pls let me know the actual return after maturity

Thanks

Abhishek-By considering above data, MSA will be Rs.8,16,000. By considering the current trend of LA for Jeevan Saral we can presume LA @ Rs.600 per Rs.1,000 MSA, the total LA will be Rs.4,89,600. So total receivable from this plan will be Rs.13,05,600.

Your agent not disclosed you the MSA, the reason may be that you will come to know the reality. The second thing he considered LA @ Rs.300 which I don’t think is fair. So this is the reality. Now the decision is left with you.

Thank you very much.

It helped me a lot .

Abhishek-Pleasure ๐

SIr,

I have a Jeevan Saral Policy paying Rs.36030 per Year from Feb. 2009

Term is for 29 Years.

DBSA – 750000/-

Please let me know 2 things. Even an approximate figure would be fine

What would i get if i Surrender @ end of 10 Years?

What would i get on maturity? I dont know what is MSA?

Would it be prudent to go in for RD / PPF than continuing with this policy?

Please advice.

Murthy-If you wait for 10 years then return from this plan will be around 4%-5%. Regarding MSA read fully the above post. Yes it is wise to go with PPF (if you consider for tax benefit) or RD than this plan. But proceed after having proper pure insurance on your life.

Hi Basav,

Can you please calculate me the surrender value for jeevan saral after 10 yrs with loyalti addition for below details

Premium – 60000 Rs/Yr

DOB – 11/05/1977

Policy start – April 2008

If you have any formula please share

Ganjan-Do you need exact amount? You just look at previous comments and you come to know that return from this policy for the term of 10 years will be around 4% to 5%.

I don’t have any exact amount in my mind.I am thinking , as 5 yrs completed , may be it will better to complete next 5 yrs.It is very difficult to decide if we can surrender it now & invest somewhere else.

As you told earlier for Rs 50,000 & more annual premium , loyalty addition is 375 , does this help to increase the surrender value ?

Gajanan-It may help you marginally but to large extent.

Sir,

First of all, thanks a lot for your highly informative posts!

I was recently approached by an LIC agent with a “pension plan”-like proposal that was essentially a set of around 20 different policies (most of them table 149 plans and a few table 14 plans) that would start maturing on an annual basis starting from a specified age. Since the total sum assured of this proposal exceeded some limit, I had to undergo medical tests, following which the premium for every policy in the proposal was increased by over 10%. I subsequently decided to reject the proposal because of the extra medical premium and also I felt that I shouldn’t commit myself immediately to paying the rather high net annual premium for a long period. The agent however said that any insurance policy I take henceforth would require a medical test because I had taken a medical test for insurance once. I have a few doubts in this regard – could you please clarify on these?

1. Is it true that once a person takes a medical test for life insurance policy but then doesn’t sign up for that policy (i.e. decides not to take up that policy), then any future policy he decides to opt for would require a medical test, even if that policy normally falls within the “no medical test required” category (for eg. policies with relatively low sum assured that don’t require medical tests by default)? Would the medical test reports have been recorded with LIC and hence any future policy may attract a medical extra premium?

2. When viewed purely from a long term savings or returns perspective (say 25 to 30 years at least), which of the two is better – Jeevan Saral or table 14? Jeeval Saral’s loyalty addition (Rs.250 for 10 years, i.e. Rs.25 per annum, annualized for the sake of comparison with table 14) seems to be less than endowment policies’ bonus (Rs.48 as per your recent LIC bonus chart) and hence when the intention is to use these insurance policies to provide a sort of pension after 25 to 30 years, it seems that table 14 is a better choice. What is your recommendation in this case?

SHR-It is not mandatory to go for medical test in all insurance policies. Because each policy offer you different values of risk. Hence I don’t think what your agent is claiming is right. These days even term insurance of around Rs.50,00,000 are offering without medical. Also I want to clear you that during the policy buying all medical expenses will be borne by the insurance company itself. So no need to worry on that. Above all if they are claiming that you need to undergo medical test then go ahead. Because this will clear any future doubts about your current state of health.

1) What your agent claiming is entirely a wrong thing. I smell that your agent might have paid the medical expenses previous time and because of your cancellation of buying he might have borne the cost of it. Hence this time he wants to go with safe ๐

2) Both are traditional policies. Hence you may not expect more than 6% to 7% of such plans. If you have a long term perspective then why can’t you opt for the PPF kind of products which will give you more than what such traditional plans give you. My strong suggestion will be to first have term insurance to cover your life risk. Then based on your financial goals start investing. Also if you have a long term perspective like more than 20 years then I suggest you to go for equity mutual funds also.

Sir,

Thanks a lot for the quick reply! I have already been investing in PPF on an annual basis and was looking at these insurance policies to supplement that (since PPF has a limit on the amount that can be deposited per year), as I do not want to go for MFs right now given the associated market risks. I have also taken 2 long-term Jeevan Anand policies already to cover life risk. With reference to your answers to my 2 questions:

1. The agent did say that the medical test expense would be borne by LIC and that if I rejected the proposal, I only had to bear the medical test expense; so on that specific aspect he doesn’t seem to be hiding the truth. But it is his claim that *any* future policy I take will require a medical test and hence the extra medical premium cannot be avoided that concerns me. Is a 10.5% increase in premium moderate or is it on the higher end when the only problem is a somewhat low BMI? And is there no way to avoid medical extra premium?

2. Yes, I realize that insurance plans cannot yield returns comparable to MFs but the risks of MFs is something I want to avoid right now, Given this constraint, which of the two is better when viewed from a purely savings and returns perspective – table 14 or Jeevan Saral?

Thanks and regards,

SHR

SHR-Are you able sustain the inflation rate in the long run by investing in such low yielding products? Think twice and decide yourself. Do you know even in PPF and LIC policies do exists interest rate risk. So it is not right to reject outrightly the asset class like equity when your period of investment is long term. Ideal insurance cover should be around 10-12 times of your yearly income. Do all your existing policies have such sufficient insurance coverage? I don’t think so.

1) Yes regarding medical expenses what your agent told is correct. But the next part what he is claiming is 200% wrong. I don’t know why he is claiming so. Regarding charging higher premiums depends on case to case and the decision of underwriter which no one can predict. Hence I am unable to reply to you whether the rise in premium is right or wrong.

2) I still suggest you think twice of investing in such plans. The risk involved in equity mutual fund? You can reduce the risk by investing monthly and investing for long term. People who lost are those who have short sight and invested lump sum also. Now coming back to which plan is best, when both offering you the same type of return, I don’t think it is wise to say which is best.

Think and decide yourself.

Thanks again for the detailed response! I have extremely limited knowledge of financial markets (equity funds, shares etc.) and related investment options, which is why I was averse to investing in MFs and hence thought I should familiarize myself with the related concepts and market scenario before considering that option. Besides, I haven’t been keen on asset creation and only in the recent times have I even started thinking of asset preservation (i.e. ensuring that income earned so far doesn’t lose value due to inflation) – perhaps that is another reason why I didn’t give a serious thought to MFs. I will definitely take your advice and think further before opting for the mentioned policies. By the way, would it be wise to invest in MFs now for the sake of providing some sort of pension (i.e. income during retirement period), just like how insurance policies were put together by the LIC agent into a “pension plan”? If you have any blog posts that would help people like me who are totally new to MFs, could you please provide a link to that?

Thanks and regards,

SHR

SHR-It come to notice that due to ignorance you are staying away from MF. I know including me all of us have first priority is to preserve our hard earned money. But at the same time money kept idle or giving you negative real return (interest earned-inflation rate=real return) will mean the depreciation in that value than appreciation. Regarding retirement planning, actually there are two phases. One is called an accumulation period and another is called a distribution period. If your retirement planning is of a longer term (more than 10 years) then you can start to build your retirement corpus by investing in any well diversified large cap fund. Once you are nearer to your goal then switching over to secured funding. During the time of retirement period you can invest the accumulated amount into any pension product (such as LIC’s Jeevan Akshay) and earn the decent return. But having said so, you need to calculate yourself the corpus needed for your retirement. Hence my suggestion will be first to educate yourself by google it on the same issue. Understanding regarding the basics of MF, if you google it then you will find plenty of knowledge platforms. Hope you go ahead with better knowledgeable investor than blind investor. Best of luck ๐

Hello Sir,

Your doing a great job in explaining the policy, keep it up!.

My wife enrolled in Jeevan saral begining 2010 with monthly Premium of 5000 for 15 years.

My wife age at the time of enrollment 31yrs.

What would be my return if i cancel now or after 10 years. Just FYI we moved to US after enrolling this policy. Would you suggest continuing this policy or cancel and enroll in something else?

Appreciate all your help

Thanks

NY

NY-Thanks. Even if you wait for 10 full years then return from this policy will be around 6% to 7%. So my suggestion will be to close it once it completes 5 years.

Thanks Basavaraj Tonagatti

NY-Pleasure ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

My name is Prabhat. I have asked my agent to give me jeevan saral but he had given me jeevan anand. I started jeevan anand in jan 2012 and paid two premium. I am paying yearly premium of 96,000 and the policy is of 15 years. Now i have some queries.

1) Is there any provision to quit from jeevan anand at this point as my premium is due in Jan 2014. Also how much amount i will get.or please advice when should i quit.

2) what is the total amount that i would be getting after 15 years when it gets matured.

3) Return wise, which policy will be better jeevan anand or jeevan saral after maturity. Please calculate on the basis of 96000 as a premium and 15 years as a time period.

4) Is there anything better than these two policy where i can get assured better returns.

My age is 29 years.

Thanks,

Prabhat

Prabhat-My answers are as below.

1) At this point you can’t quit as your policy not completed 3 years. So if you quit within 3 years then you will not get anything.

2) Both the plans are of endowment type where return on investment will hover around 6% to 7%.

3) In my view for the period of 15 years, none of traditional plans such as Jeevan Anand or Jeevan Saral are best.

4) Best option to me (if you are totally risk averse) then start investing in PPF than running behind these plans. At the same time cover your life by taking sufficient term insurance.

I don’t know what made you to invest such huge amount to invest in low yielding products. Think and decide because it is your hard earned money but not your agents ๐

Basavaraj Sir,

I’m a Central Govt. Employee, working for last 1 yr (Covered under NPS). My present age is 29 yrs. Marital Status: Single. I am contributing Rs 2000 PM in PPF A/c. Still need to invest Rs. 24000 PA to save IT. Presently I have no insurance cover, so I was thinking about Jeevan Saral Plan. But by reading this thread I have come to know that Term Insurance is best. But in many comments you have advised that PPF is better than Jeevan Saral. Please elaborate this using 24000 Annual premium. and also advise some good Term Insurance policies.

Kaushik-Your first priority should be towards having sufficient life insurance (by taking term insurance), enough emergency fund (I don’t think you need it being Govt Employee. But the ideal amount should be around 3-6 months expenses). Then based on your financial goals start investing in any product. Instead of running behind such low yielding insurance plans, better to opt for PPF (some portion of your overall portfolio) and the rest will be in equity (for long term goals like more than 5 years).

Elaborating the difference between Jeevan Saral return with PPF is a big topic. But I am assuring you that definitely PPF has an edge over Jeevan Saral. So go with PPF.

Sir,

I took Jeevan saral at the age of 31yrs in 2004 with an yearly premium of Ruppes 47000. May I know how much will I be getting at the end of 10th and 11th yr. Pls let me know the calculation.

Thanks

Maj S.Mamgain

Maj-MSA will be Rs.4,31,616+LA Rs.1,51,065 (LA @ Rs.350 per Rs.1,000 MSA for the premium band of less than Rs.50,000 per year). This is for 10 years policies. For 11 years there will not be much change. For detailed calculation, I suggest you to read the above post in detail.

Thank you for your reply. May I please know the calculation. How you reached the figure of Rs.431616.

Maj-It is a ready-made table, which even you can get it from your agent or nearest LIC branch.

Sir,

I am at my post in Jammu thus dont have access to all these details. Please let me know the calculation of the amount Rs.431616.

Secondly by colleague has Jeevan Saral with an accidental rider of Rs.841.50, will this is included while calculation MSA.

Pls reply my two questions and I will be done.

Regards

Maj. Sandeep

Maj-No need to worry, you just contact your nearest LIC branch or call them and give the same information. They will provide you. Accidental rider is the facility where if the policy holder dies due to an accident then additional SA will be payable. So it will not be included in MSA.

Sir,

This will be my last reply for you. I am presently in post, almost 175 km away from the civil habitat and from last 66 yrs LIC has not been able to open its branch near to this border terrain called Kargil and will never be . I expected a reply very simple to answer from your end however I believe you are not willing to answer the question of mine.

Regards

Maj. Sandeep

Maj-I don’t have the exact formula to explain the same. But it will be available with all insurance agents which LIC provides. You are claiming that you don’t have access to the outer world. But at the same time you are replying to my comments. Dear…suggest you to contact your agent from whom you took this policy.

Not to worry. I was expecting this reply.

Take care.

Maj-It was expected…because I already told at the beginning to your reply only that for better understanding of MSA calculation you can contact the concerned insurer ๐

Hi,

My father took Jeevan Saral policy in 2010 paying 46502 per year (no rider)..his 10th yr has completed do let me know how much will he be getting if he surrenders it today. let me know the amount in 10th, 11th and 12th yr. Do let me know the total amount with break up.

Regards

Sunny

Sunny-Please let me know the age at which your father took this plan. For better knowing, I suggest you to contact your nearest LIC branch.

my birthday-25/03/1981

jeevan saral-1500 per mahina doc-11/2009 kitana machurty 10yly 15yly 20yly 25yly milega

Hi Basavraj,

Thanks for the good work you r doing.

I had take Jeevan Saral with monthly payment of 10000, in 2009 at 29 Yr of age.

Can you please tell me how much total amount shall I get after surrendering the policy at 5 Yr. and 10 Yr.

Thanking you…

Regards,

Parveen

Praveen-I don’t have data for calculating for 5 years. But for a 10 year policy, MSA will be Rs.11,07,600. LA will be Rs.4,15,350 (LA @ Rs.375 per Rs.1,000 MSA for the premium paying policy of more than Rs.50,000 annually). So total you will receive Rs.15,22,950.

Thanks Basavraj,

Thant means I’ll be earning approx. 3.2Lakhs, over an Investment of 12 Lakhs (10 Yr’s period).

I’ve decided to opt out of this now, even if I loose around One Lakh.

I’ll be putting that money plus some more on a piece of land already identified.

Going for term insurance for the life cover.

Thanks a lot for the info.

Regards,

Parveen

Praveen-That’s a wise decision to opt out of this plan. But my suggestion will be diversifying your investment rather than investing in any one asset class. Best of luck ๐

Hi

I’m 39 years old and i taken my Jeevan Saral insurance policy for a 25 year term in May 2012 at 38 years , monthly plan, install premium -4999.84 +Installment accsident benifit 104.16 ,the Sum assured is 1612300,accident benifit 1250000, term rider sum assured 1250000.

Now since i have invested in a property I plan to surrender my policy where i have completed a 1 year 4 month payment through ecs scheme.

I had taken it under the understanding of keeping it for 15 years, ideally if i need money for my daugheters education

i could pull out the fund after 10 years.

My question is now if i close this policy for say after 12 years and use it for my daughter education , what sum would i get if I surrender on 12 years. What is shown in the table 165 are these figures just tentative or are they actual returns that you will receive. And if these figures are tenatative , how much returns is expected if i withdraw in 12 years as i will have overridden the penalty of keeping the policy for minimum of 10 years lockin.

Thank you in advance for your advice.

Kind Regards,

vijay

Vijay-If you close the policy at the end of 12th year then you will receive the MSA of Rs.6,72,100 (Age I considered as 38 years while taking this plan and monthly premium of Rs.5,000)+LA Rs.2,85,642 (LA @Rs.425 per Rs.1,000 MSA for more than Rs.50,000 annual premium band)=Rs.9,57,742.

Thank you so much Basavaraj , it is a deciding factor for me .I think keeping this amount in PPF yearly will be more benificial than LIC ,only here the insurance cover is not present. I will be going in for Term Insurance plan instead.

Vijay-Good decision, go ahead. Definitely PPF will give you more advantage than this plan. But do remember that to buy online term plan.

SIR, AFTER SAVING LIFE RISK IS SECURED. ACCORDING TO MY OPINION TABLE 165 IS LOWEST PREMIUM TABLE ARE OTHER TABLES ARE COSTLY WITH CONFUSING PREMIUM AMOUNT. ALTHOUGH THERE IS LOWEST RETURN BUT LIFE IS ALSO SECURED FOR DEPENDENT. IN GOVT. AMOUNT IS BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. ACCORING TO MY EXP. PVT. CO. ARE NOT TRUSTWORHY. I AM INVESTING IN PPF WITH MAX LIMIT. AT PRESENT I HAVE SECURED MYSELF WITH NSC, BANK RD ETC ETC. MFS ARE MY 2 ND PREFRENCE AFTER LIFE RISK COVER. THAT IS REASON TO CHOOSING LIC. SO ONCE AGAGIN I REQUEST YOU MY ADVISE THE MATURITY AMOUNT OF THE SAID SCHEME. i AM ALSO THINKING WITH DAB. YOUR VALUEABLE ADVICE GIVE ME BOOST. THANKS WITH REGARDS.

Vinod-Will you think that you are properly insured? I mean for how many years your dependents will survive if something happens to you today by that insurance claim amount? Can you please elaborate in detail?

SIR, MY D..O.B IS 17.11.1961. I WANT TO TAKE EIGHT POLICIES OF 165 TABLE FOR 18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11 YEARS EACH RS. 500/- PER MONTH I.E. RS.6000/- PER YEAR EACH POLICY. I WILL PAY RS. 108000/-, 102000/-, 96000/- , 90000/-,,84000/-, 78000/-, 72000/- ,66000/- RESPECTIVELY.

SIR, WHAT AMOUNT I WILL GET AFTER MATURITY OF EACH POLICY ?

IS IT RIGHT DECISION OR NOT ACCORDING TO MY AGE ?

MY WIFE IS PREFERING JEEVAN ANAND. BUT MY OPINION THERE IS MUCH & HIGHER PREMIUM PAID ACCORING TO MY AGE. PLEASE ADVISE ME WHICH IS BETTER ?

Vinod-Considering your age (52 years), I don’t think it is a wise decision. Let me know the reasons behind choosing LIC for your investment.

Basavraj,

I took this policy for 26 yrs term and i am paying 60,000 per year. can you help me what is the final maturity amount i will get ?

Thanks

Sudhir

Sudhir-What is your age when you took this policy?

Dear Basavaraj,

Thank you for writing such an informative article & for taking the time to answer each & every question here. Truly amazing effort!

I have a question too, about my Jeevan Saral policy. I started the policy on 6th September 2010, and the annual premium is Rs. 48040. I have paid premiums for 3 years, but my fourth year’s premium is due now (before 6th October).

My policy term is 30 years, and my current age is also 30.

I just called LIC & they told me the current surrender value of this policy is Rs. 82016.

My questions to you are:

1. How did they calculate this value?

2. What will be the value after I pay the 4th annual premium?

3. Lastly, should I surrender it now or wait to complete 5 years?

Apparently, from the 10th year onwards, I get a โloyalty additionโ added to the value of policy. However, the amount of addition is not clear.

Plus, there might be some โbonusโ declared from time to time, which will also be added to the value of this policy. Again, amount is not clear. The agent promised me the moon, but I am quite doubtful now.

Thank you again for taking my question!

Regards,

Manisha

Manisha-As your policy completed 3 years so they did like this-30% of total premiums paid excluding 1st year premium, all extra premiums and accident benefit/term rider premiums. Value after fourth year will be-90% of MSA. My suggestion will be to let it complete 5 years then choose to come out of this plan. In this plan there will be no bonus but only MSA+LA. For exact valuations of calculations you need to contact the servicing or nearest LIC branch.

Thank you for your prompt response. However, there seems to be an issue with the calculation. On http://www.licindia.in/special_plan_001_benefits.htm , it says that:

Guaranteed Surrender Value:

The policy can be surrendered after it has been in force for at least 3 full years. The Guaranteed Surrender value will be equal to 30% of the total amount of premiums paid excluding the premiums for the first year and all the extra premiums and premiums for accident benefit / term rider.

Special Surrender Value:

80% of Maturity Sum Assured if 3 or more yearsโ but less than 4 yearsโ premiums have been paid; 90% of the Maturity Sum Assured, if 4 or more yearsโ but less than 5 yearsโ premiums have been paid and 100% of the Maturity Sum Assured, if 5 or more yearsโ premiums have been paid. The Maturity Sum Assured for this para will be the Maturity Sum Assured corresponding to the term for which premiums have been paid under the policy.

Corporationโs policy on surrenders:

In practice, the Corporation will pay a Special Surrender Value โ which is usually higher than the Guaranteed Surrender Value. This value will depend on the duration for which premiums have been paid and the policy duration at the date of surrender. In some circumstances, in case of early termination of the policy, the surrender value payable may be less than the total premium paid.

If you are considering Special Surrender Value (i.e. 90%) for the next year, why not consider it for this year too (i.e.80%)? Am I missing something here?

Manisha- Difference between 90% to 80% is a lot. They can’t give you 90% without having that much premium payment from your side. Please understand, they are running a business but not the social service. Hence the rules are like that. For exact calculations like how much you paid, how much % of MSA they arrive at surrender value, you contact your nearest LIC branch.

I really feel glad that you are doing such a great help to needful. Thank you!!

I’ve purchased LIC Jeevan Saral(165) a month ago.

Details :

Age : 25 Years 7 Months

Term : 25 Years

Premium : 2000/Month

Agent told that MSA would be 6,90,00 Rs for 25 years. LA would be Approx 11,50,000 Rs, so total i would be receiving around 18,00,00 Rs on maturity, is it correct?

Mitesh-MSA in your case is Rs.7,25,220 (I considered your age as 26 years and term 25 years). LA will be Rs.7,25,220 (LA @ Rs.1,000 per Rs.1,000 MSA). So total return will be Rs.14,50,440. I don’t know on what base your agent calculated and arrive at such high returns.

Thanks Basavaraj!!

Dear sir I brought a LIC Jeevan Anand policy with policy term 24 yrs, yearly premium 43603. Policy sum assured value 1000000/-.Commencement date :may 2007 at age 31 years . Please let me know my total maturity value once policy gets matured after 24 premiums are paid.

Is this policy better or do you recommend me to invest else.

Regards

Bhoop-This policy will give you the return of around 6-7%. I don’t think it is best to get such low returns by investing such long period.

Sir, do let me know what to do next…

Sir waiting for your response.

Bhoop

Bhoop-You can check out above comments. Returns for 10 years policy will be around 4%.

I brought a LIC Jeevan Saral Policy (Table 165) for 35 years, yrly premium 43653. Policy sum assured value 9,87,500/-.Commencement date :Feb 2010 ( age 34) Please let me know my total maturity value and what will be the surrender value if i surrender it after 5 yrs and when will the 5th yr will commence.

Munmun

sir, please excuse me the yrs premium is 47439 ( include 936.50 Term Rider)

Please let me know my total maturity value and when will the 5th yr will end. And shall I stop paying the premium after that. What will be the surrender value if i surrender it after 10 yrs.

Regards

Munmun-I don’t have data to calculate about for 5 year policies. So better to contact your nearest LIC branch.

Please let me know my total maturity value and when will the 5th yr will end. And shall I stop paying the premium after that. What will be the surrender value if i surrender it after 10 yrs.

Regards

Sir,

Looking ahead to your response.

Regards

Munmun

Munmun-I already replied saying I don’t have data for a 5 year policy. Please check above comments.

dear basav ,I forgot to tell u his age. His age is 25 and he has opted for this policy today.

hi basav – One of my friend has opted for jeewan saral policy and he has opted for 5000/monthly plan for a term of 30 years.He was moved toward it for higher return around n above 1 crore based on I.R.R calculation @10%. and he is of the view that even if return wold be @ 6 or 7 %, it would fetch him a good deal i.e., around 60 to 70 lacs. but I doubt . could u please tell me what will he get after 30 yrs?

Manohar-Your friend is very much satisfied with 6% return for the long run? Then ask him to put all his money into a savings account where he will get around 4-5% total risk free return. But inflation adjusted return of NEGATIVE. Ask your friend what will the inflation adjusted return of flat return of around 6-7%? It is a Zero to Negative. If he is comfortable with low return then even no need to take risk of investing in LIC also (where bonus or LA are yearly fluctuating).

As you did calcuation, the return of this policy even for such long term will be around 7%. If you need calculations then I will do it. But the point is, will your friend sustainable with kind of return?

first of all I appreciate your quick response.Yes I would like to know about the return. If u can please tell…….. Basav I am thinking of taking Jeewansaathi plan from risk cover point of view, as in case of any eventuality of either of the two the premium ceases and one gets S.A but policy still moves on w/out paying any premium further. My age is 40 and that of my wife 28. wouldn’t that be a right choice instead of going for individual risk coverage ?

I have jivan saral policy(table 165 term-35) ,which I bought at the age of 24 and year 2010.I am paying quaterly permium 4594rs(4500 for main plan+93.75 for accident benefit premium) I want to surrender it after 5 yrs.what will I get.

In policy it is written that Maturity sum assured is 791115 and accident benefit sum assured is 375000.pls reply

Manvi-I don’t have data for a 5 year policy. Please contact your nearest LIC branch.

Hi Basavaraj,

Thanks for the article and all your helpful comments.This might be a repeat of what someone already asked-but here’s what happened.My father bought Jeevan Saral in 2007 (10 year term policy).The basic yearly premium is 58,800 and accidental benefit premium is 1250.So the total yearly installment is 60050.The Maturity Sum assured is 198550.I think now since it’s realized that this was more a “risk” coverage policy than preserving the principal policy-he wants to surrender the policy.He has paid the premium for 5 years now.The part that I don’t understand is the Loyalty addition part.So basically

a)If he surrenders now(after 5 years)-what’s the surrender value of the policy

b)If he decides to keep it and pay the premium for next 5 years-what can be expected money he will get at the end of 10 years.

From what I understand-it’s better to take the loss and surrender the policy as the loyalty addition is something that cannot be guaranteed-but would like your advice.

Thanks,

R.C.Shah

Rutvik-My answers

a) I don’t have MSA and LA values for a 5 year term policy. Hence unable to calculate it. But if you contact your nearest LIC branch then they will help you.

b) Considering the current LA trend, we may presume around 3-4% return for a 10 year policy.

My advice will be to come out of this plan after 5 years.

Thanks a lot Basavaraj.As a side question-and i know you are playing a part in getting people educated,but aside from the fact that legally nothing was done wrong,my father feels cheated by the agent as he was told that the MSA was in addition to premium paid.is there any way to complain about such agents- who either themselves did not understand what they were selling or pushing products to people without full explanation.

Rutvik

Rutvik-Please visit your nearest branch directly and clarity the issue or visit the LIC site about clarification. Your MSA will not include your premium payment. You can complain directly to LIC. If they don’t heed than the IRDA.

Hi Basavaraj,

My father is getting some conflicting opinions on this and we have decided to write a letter to our LIC branch and get it clarified.Can you please tell me what does the MSA amount mean

a)Expect to be paid if you finish your policy term (all premiums paid over the policy term + MSA+LA)

b)Expect to be paid(MSA +LA)

Reading the policy documents-it seems (b) is true but my father’s agent is telling that (a) is true.

rutvik

Rutvik-It is clearly mentioned even on a LIC site that maturity of this policy is only MSA+LA. You can visit “Here” to know the same. Now what is MSA? MSA is the guaranteed amount which is payable on maturity and is based on your age,term of policy and the premium you are paying.

So this is neither included your premium paid amount nor it excludes. Treat this as maturity proceed without connecting to what you are paying as premium. For your doubts (regarding A and B), below are my answers.

a) This is payable in case you are closing the policy in advance like you opted the policy for 15 years but closing it on 10th year.

b) This is the maturity proceed you receive on policy maturity.

Hope you got clarity.

Hi… I am planning to invest in Jeevan Saral… following are my details:

Current Age: 35 yrs

Yearly Premium: 36000

Maturity Period: 15 yrs

My Queries:

1) What will be the MSA for a 15yr old policy?

2) What will be the returns at the end of 15yrs considering the LA rate of 600/- per thousand (This is what my agent promised as the worst case scenario for LA rates in 2028)?

3) Considering point #2 above; what will be the ROI percentage for my configuration with Jeevan Saral ?

4) What is the term rider in Jeevan Saral (which I read on the net – but my agent didn’t know about)

5) Lastly… if I have an option to invest the same money for the same period in PPF… which is a better option?

Thanks

Kabir

Kabir-My answers to your all quarries are simple. Whatever way you consider, the return of this policy is low and hover around 5-6%. So the best option is PPF (debt category) as you can earn more than this plan.

Thanks for your prompt response… Can you elaborate on “Debt Category” in your suggestion… Is it any different than the normal PPF…

Kabir-To simplify the meaning of Debt-All secured products are usually called Debt Products. They may give less return than other asset classes like equity. But you may expect safety and can use for short term goals as well as a diversification tool.

Got it.. Thanks very much…

Hello Sir,this is a quite informative.

But Still I am unable to understand the How to calculate Maturity Sum Assured.

I am paying Premium of Rs 122500/- PA,and term is 35 yrs,so what will be the Maturity Sum Assured?

Sachin-I need your age when you took the policy. Because MSA also depends on the age of the policy holder.

I took the policy in 2011 when I was 29.

Also I need to know ,whether should i continue to Pay the Premium of should Exit after 5 yrs and should opt for a term Insurance?

Thanks in advance and really appreciate your quick response.

You are doing an awesome job by educating peoples about insurance.

Sachin-Then my advice will be to discontinue after 5 years completion and opt for term plan. Thanks for your appreciation ๐

Can you Please explain MSA in a chart form ?I am unable to understand the calculations.(I am not good at calculations) ๐ thnks again for all your help

Sachin-MSA stands for Maturity Sum Assured and is the guaranteed payout in Jeevan Saral. This is based on your premium, age and term of the policy. This chart will be available with your agents.

I paid 3 years primium. 40000/-per Year in Jeevan Saral.my Age 32 years.i Cant Possible To pay 10years.but After 10years how Much amount i will get

Ajit-Return for 10 years will be around 4%. If you are unable to pay till 10 years then you can opt out of this plan after 5 years completion.

Hi,

I took a Jeevan Saral policy in the year 2009 and I am paying a quarterly premium of 15000/rs. What will I get if I surrender the policy after 5 years or 2 premium before 5 years?

Thanks,

Vijay S

Vijays-I don’t have the data to mention the 5 year maturity. Hence better you contact your nearest LIC branch.

HI,

I am 37 years of age now and would like to opt for Jeevan Saral with a minimum amount of Rs. 3064 per year for 15 years term.

Could you please let me know if this good policy to opt for as per my age ?

Actually, agent is suggesting me to go ahead with this policy (Jeevan Saral) for long period say 15 years or more.

Which policy you suggest to opt for, in case Jeevan Saral is not good one with returns ? I am looking for yearly payment of premium for 15 years, suggest me good policy.

Thanks,

-NP

Murthy-Please go through above comments. You notice that return from this policy is low while we consider the current trend of LA. When you consider the return part of the period of 15 years then LIC policies (traditional plans such as Jeevan Saral or Jeevan Anand) are low yielding plans. Hence my suggestion will be not to go for any such plans.

Thank you Basavaraj for the imediate respnse… In that case can you please advice which will be the best and good return plan in LIC for 15 – 20 years?

Ramesh-If you are able to satisfy with returns around 6-7% then go ahead with any plan like Jeevan Anand or Jeevan Saral. But in my view considering your time frame I don’t think LIC is best choice to you. Now the decision is left with you.

my age 34 yrs dob 26/01/1978 my monthly income is 60,000. i want to take lic jeevan saral . monthly premium 4000. half yearly 24000. duration of pay for 20 years . is it good yo take this plan . im new to this world kindly suggest

Magician-First thing this plan is the low yielding product. Hence I suggest you to stay away from this product. Second thing first cover your life risk with proper term plan then start to think about investment. The third and important thing is, don’t invest until you know indepth knowledge about any product. Once you are comfortable with in depth research then only going ahead of investing.

Hi Basavaraj,

I read all the questions on your blog and seems that going with Jeevan Saral for long term is not worth.

Can you please clarify me on the following doubts to take a decision:

Date of birth 25/07/1978

Policy opened on 3/3/2010

Term 30 years

Yearly premium paid is around 16814

I want to know what will be maturity amount at the end of,

5 years (16814 * 5 yrs = 84070)

10 years (16814 * 10 yrs = 168140 + LA)

Also please advice whther i can go ahead paying to 10/20/30 or i can surrender the policy by the end of 5 years.

Thanks for your Support…

Ramesh-I already replied to your question. Go through it.

Hi Basavaraj Tonagatti,

Nice to see your reply for all the questions that people are giving. Now i got some idea after reading it… Please guide me on the below:

LIC Jeevan Saral

dob-25/07/1978

3/3/2010 policy started jeevan saral 165

term-30

premium-16814(Yearly)

Please let me know,

1. how much i will get by end of 5 years (Total amount paid is 16814*5 = 84070)?

2. How much i will get by end of 10 years (Total amount paid is 16814*10 = 168140)including LA?

What will be your kind advice, whether i can continue to pay this for 10/20/30 years or shall i surrender the policy at the end of 5 year?.

Thanks for support and guidance…

Ramesh- 1) I don’t have valid data to calculate the returns for 5 years. Hence I suggest you to contact your nearest LIC branch.

2) For 10 year policies and considering the current declared LA rate, you may expect around 4% return.

My advice will be to discontinue after 5 years.

I will certainly consider your advice before i invest in this plan, but if i do invest in this plan and take only one policy for myself for 1000rs per month, then could you please calculate the maturity amount for 35 years of policy term…???? please help me understand this….

Akhil-In that case MSA Rs.5,24,050+LA Rs.7,86,075 (LA @ Rs.1,500 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.13,10,125.

Respected sir, I am planning to take Lic Jeevan saral (plan no 165) on the 19 sep 2013 which is my birthday. I’ll complete 24yrs on 19 sep 2013. I am planning to take the policy for 35 years term with monthly premium of 1000 Rs/-. i am bit confused on the maturity amount that i will get after completing 35 years, which means I would be 60 years of age when the policy matures. Also I have a doubt that will i have to pay 1000 rs/- monthly premium every month till 35 years of policy term??? i am sorry that I am asking such quetions but I am very amatuer and new to insurance. please help me understand this….

Akhil-May I know the reason behind choosing this product particularly?

sir, the main reason is purely a long term investment which also covers accidental deaths. and i am planning to buy 2 policies of 500rs/- each. so could you help me with the maturity amount I shall expect???

Akhil-In such scenario, I suggest you not to go for this plan. Instead buy a term plan and invest the rest in simple product called PPF. Then your return will be higher than this plan. The rest is left with you to decide.

Mr. Tonagatti,

Thanks for all the valuable inputs on Jeevan Saral.

I have this Jeevan Saral Policy running since 51 months (4.3 years) paying 5104 per month, total policy term of 30 years.

MSA mentioned is 2247000.

It appears that mis-selling of the LIC agent worked and instead of a proper life insurance he sold me a plan that assured him a cut for his life.!

I have decided to exit this plan and have already bought an online Term insurance at around Rs. 6700 p.a. for 1 cr cover over next 40-42 yrs.

Now my doubt is since I have already paid 51 months worth premium, should I bear some more pain and complete 5 yrs and then surrender?

I will look for Mutual Funds SIP investments as listed by you.

Thanks again.

Aniket.

Aniket-Yes better to complete 5 years then come out of this plan.

Hi Basu,

IIFL(India Infoline Fianance Limited) issue non-convertible debenture bond on 17th September. The details shown below is mentioned on newspapers and sites..

“The NCDs have an option of monthly and annual interest payment and the yield works out to 12.68% p.a. for the monthly interest option and 12%p.a. for the annual interest option. The face value of NCD is Rs. 1,000 and minimum application is Rs. 5,000 (5 NCDs). The NCDs have an investment horizon of 3 years and 5 years. The issue closes on October 4, 2013.”

Actually, I don’t have any idea on bonds and never bought before. Can you Please provide me some information about bonds and is it good to buy or not ?

As per information mentioned above should we get such interest on amount invested for 3 or 5 years block.

More details given on site…

http://www.indiainfoline.com/Markets/News/IIFL-Public-Issue-of-Secured-Redeemable-NCDs-opens-on-September-17-2013/5776848924

Thanks.

Parthiv-Pleave visit my old post “Shriram Transport Finance Company NCD July 2012-Review” You will come to know what they are and to whom such products are suitable.

Thanks..

Hi,

Can you Pl send me list of Mutual funds in which i can invest for long term ?

Parthiv-My suggestions are as below.

1) Franklin India Bluechip Fund (Growth)-Large Cap Fund

2) UTI Opportunities Fund (G) -Large and Mid Cap Fund

3) Reliance Equity Opportunities Fund (G)-Mid and Small Cap Fund

4) HDFC Prudence Fund (G)-Balanced Fund Equity Oriented.

Diversify your investment among these funds equally. Start investing monthly through SIP contribution.

Thanks a lot dear.

Parthiv-Pleasure ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

I want to invest in PPF. I read your article on PPF but don’t understand your calculation. I am 32 yr & want to invest 5000 monthly in PPF. after 15 years how much should i get ?

can you pl send me details … if i want to continue after 15 yrs in ppf, is it possible and what is procedure to continue or i have to open new PPF account.

Thanks…

Parthiv-Please let me know what is confusing you related to PPF. Below are the calculations based on the contributions you are mentioning.

1) If your monthly contributions are within 1st and 5th of every month then Rs.15,99,760.

2) If your monthly contributions are after 5th of every month then Rs.15,88,684.

I considered the current PPF interest rate which 8.7%.

If you want to continue after 15 years then you can do so but in the block of 5 years. You need to inform the banker where your account is in advance .

Hi,

I am planning to take LIC – Jeevan Saral Policy for 15 yrs with Monthly Rs. 1000 investment. My age is 32. Can you please tell me how much i will get on maturity ?

Pl suggest should i buy this policy or any other in which i will get maximum return…

What about Jeevan Anand Plan ? Is it good to take ?

Thanks.

Parthiv-Please have a look at above comments. You notice that return from this plan will be less than 7%. So neither Jeevan Saral or Jeevan Anand are good plans to invest for.

Hi,

Thanks for your prompt revert.

So if this plans give less than 7% return can you suggest me where can i invest for long term (15-20 yrs) where i can get good return.

Also pl suggest me for life insurance policy which should i buy ?

Parthiv-If your waiting period is more than 15 years then definitely equity mutual funds will be the best options for you. My strong opinion about insurance is, you need to buy insurance only for covering the life risk but not for investment. Hence my suggestion will be only “Online Term Insurance”.

Hi, I have just taken a new policy this month (Sept 2013)of Jeevan Saral for 15 years term, monthly installment is Rs.1000, plz. calculate how much I will receive at maturity time. My DOB is 08/11/1966

Albert-MSA Rs.1,52,830+LA Rs.76,415 (LA @ Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA for 15 years policy)=Rs.2,29,245. I considered your age as 47 years.

Thank you for your prompt reply Mr. Basavaraj, so it means that in 15 years at maturity my profit will be only around 50,000/= as per your calculations. There is a similar scheme by HDFC, if I invest in HDFC, will the bank give me more profit?…

Albert-Pleasure ๐ Ask HDFC and let them claim in written about what they saying you. For your information if HDFC plan also of traditional insurance plan then don’t expect more than 7%. Decision left with you ๐ Also let you caution that HDFC Life is a different entity than HDFC Bank. They may sell the HDFC Life products. So always be cautious when your banker selling you something. There is more mis-selling happening nowadays from bankers than agents.

Hello Sir,

I have invested in Jeevan Saral last month with Rs 5,000/month (ie, 60,000/year ) for 35 year policy.

I am an NRI and my age is 29 years.

Please advice how much returns should i expect after 25 years (if I surrender after 25 years) and 35 years (at maturity) ??

And if this policy makes good investment for me ?

Anshul-My answers as below.

1) For 25 years MSA will be Rs.17,86,600 and LA Rs.17,86,600 (LA @ Rs.1,000 per Rs.1,000 MSA for 25 years policies)=Rs.35,73,200.

2) For 35 years MSA will be Rs.25,35,600 and LA Rs.38,03,400 (LA @ Rs.1,500 per Rs.1,000 MSA for 35 years policies)=Rs.63,39,000.

Now decide and continue. Returns are too in such policies. I don’t know what prompted you to invest in this plan.

So does this mean for my 35 year policy(5000/month) i should expect around 64lacs only?

Reason why i am surprised is because LIC Table 165 indicates return on this policy to be ~1.8 crores after 35 years.

How can this be reduced to 1/3rd ?? Does this LIC table 165 has any meaning in that case?

Anshul-Please let me know the source of your claim. For your information “indicative return” is different which you may see on LIC site to the “actual return” what you get from your policy. Let me know the source please.

Please type in google “LIC Jeevan Saral Table no 165” and click images.

Its according to Table no 165 – does that mean these LIC tables have no significance ?

this looks like fraud in LIC name.

this table can be found on many webpages/blogs and with all LIC agents as handbook.

http://licjeevanplanindia.blogspot.ca/2013/02/lic-jeevan-saral-table-no-165.html

Anshul-LIC always show the “INDICATIVE” return as per IRDA guideline. But the link you provide shows calculation of considering 10% return. But will they guarantee the return? LIC itself just shows indicative return not the guaranteed return. So just imagine which is correct whether LIC indicative returns or the few sites showing such chart and misguiding all.

Hi

I have taken jeevan saral plan in 2012 and my DOB is 30/11/1988 and my premium is 12130(half yearly) and tenure is 21 years.What amt I will get if i surrender by end of 15 years and what I will get if complete whole tenure.

Mitesh-Please go through all above comments. You notice the return what you can expect. If you still need specific then let me know.

At the end of 15 years ,I will get assured amt of 423540+LA(which may be arnd 6 to 10%) and at the end of 21 years I will get 591440 + LA(which may be arnd 6 to 10%) ..Is this correct?

Mitesh-LA will be a one time payment. So don’t consider that as a yearly return on your investment. Please go through above post or few comments you will come to know.

I took Jeevan Saral Policy for 6000 RS annually on 1/10/1999. Please tell me when should I get out of this policy. I have already paid 4 premiums of this policy.

Query: When will be the 100% surrender value rule applicable on my policy. Is it just after paying 5th premium or I do need to wait for completion of 5 years.

Please feel free to email me on [email protected].

Vikas-Better to complete your policy 5 years then come out of this.

Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti , When will 5 years complete, just after paying 5th year premium or I have to wait for 1/10/2014.

Vikas-You need to complete the 5 years but not the beginning of the 5th year.

Hi

I have taken Jeevan Saral Plan in 2012 and my DOB is 30/11/1988 for period of 21 years with premium of 12130(half yearly). What amount I will get if I surrender after 15th year and what amt I will get I complete whole tenure.

Mitesh-Suggest you to go through the comments. You will come to know how much you can expect from this policy.

dob-30/11/1980

02/02/2012 policy started jeevan saral 165

term-35

premium-6300(quartely)

net premium-6431 including rider

maturity sum assured-1038954

please provide me final return after 35 in figure as lic software gives appx.4900000

Prakash-Request you to calculate yourself based on the MSA available on bond and current trend of LA.

Dear Sir

MY AGE IS 33 YEAR

MY AGENT SAY ABOUT JIVAN SARAL AS UNDER

5000 PER MONTH PREMIUM PAID UP TO 11 YEAR – YOU GOT RS. 100000 PER YEAR RETURN FROM 12 TO 21 YEAR ( 10 YEAR) THEN AFTER (FROM 22nd YEAR) YOU GOT PENSION RS. 50,000 PER YEAR UP TO WHOLE LIFE

CAN IT POSSIBLE

IT IS POSSIBLE IN JIVAN SARAL ONLY OR COMBINATION OF SUM OTHER LIC POLICY

KANTI

Kanti-Do you please share the full details on this platform so that everyone can come to know whether it is possible to get that much return or not. We discuss everything.

Hi,

I have taken a Jeeval Saral Policy,

Age 33 years

Policy started on Jan 2013

Term – 16 Years

Let me know how much maturity value do I get?

Thanks,

Phalgun

Phalguna-Please let me know your premium amount.

hi,

It is 24020

Phalguna-MSA will be Rs.4,11,740 and LA Rs.2,05,870 (LA @Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.6,17,610

Hi,

I have 2 Policies ( 1. Jeevan Anand 2. Child Career Plan – Table No 184 & Child Future Plan Table No 185) and i want to surrender the same & need your advise as to what will be my surrender value.

1. Jeevan Anand Policy – TABLE -149-21

DOC 09/07/2007

MATURITY DT – 09/07/2028

SUM ASSURED – 1LAC

PREMIUM PAID – FOR ALL THE YRS ..TILL JULY 2013

MY DATE OF BIRTH – 06/09/1977

PREMIUM AMT IIS APPX 10000 PER YEAR

2. Child Career Plan – Table No 184 & Child Future Plan Table No 185

DOC – 10/07/2007

DATE OF COMMENCEMENT OF RISK – 10/07/2012

EXPIRY DT OF POLICY TERM – 10/07/2030

EXPIRY DT OF EXTENDED TERM – 10/07/2037.

SUM ASSURED – 1LACS.

DUE DT OF PREMIUM – 10/01/2025

DUE DT OF PMT OF LAST PREMIUM MATURITY DT – 10/07/2030

DATE OF BIRTH OF MY DAUGHTER – 06/02/2007

PREMIUM AMT – APPX 10000/- PER YEAR

Now i am surrendering both the policies due to financial concerns. I need your advise, that can i get some benefits from both the policies currently & if i surrender then what will be the surrendering amount i will get for both the policies.

Awaiting reply.

Regards,

Vikrant Sanghavi

Vikran-For exact values I suggest you to consult your nearest LIC branch.

Hello Sir,

Please let me know my maturity amount as I have opted for LIC Jeevan Saral, my details are as follows :

1. At the time of taking policy I was 21 years old.

2. My Net monthly premium is Rs.1021/-

3. My maturity period is for 20 years.

I am a bit confused as one of my friend told me that the return is less comparing to PPF or RD for such a long period. Sir please guide.

Nazish-Yes what your friend adviced to you is correct. In your case MSA will be Rs.2,80,120 and LA Rs.2,24,096 (@ Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 MSA). So total your return will be Rs.5,04,216.

Sir, i want to take jeevan saral or Jeevan surbhi for Rs. 1500 per month for 20 years, so what would be the final value that i receive after 20 years, my age is 31

Mehul-Please let me know the reason behind choosing both the plans?

sir I want to buy for tax benefit

Mehul-Then I suggest you to differentiate between insurance and investment. Take pure term plan for your insurance need and invest in the pure investment product. When you are saying tax benefit, then I suggest you to go for term plan and PPF (both are tax efficient and risk free). I think these plans are suggested to you by some agents, am I right?

Sir, i want to take jeevan saral for Rs. 3000 per month for 20 years, so what would be the final value that i receive after 20 years, my age is 28

Chandra-MSA Rs.8,27,580+LA Rs.6,62,064 (LA at Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.14,89,644.

Dear Sir,

My age is 31 years and planning to buy jeeven bharati LIC policy for sum assured 3 lacs for 20 years.

This jeeven bharati policy is specially for women….so Please let me know the extra benefits over of this policy over jeeven surbhi and jeeven saral policy for same sum assured for 20 years.

I am very confused about choosing moneyback policy…please help me to decide. Thanks & Regards

Swati

Dr.Swati-May I know the specific reason for choosing LIC Jeevan Bharati (apart from this plan being meant for ladies)?

I want to buy any good policy which cover death risk, high returns and give tax benefit.My maximum limit is 20000 per year for LIC policy. Jeeven Bharati is specially for women so I thought there will be some extra benefits for women for this policy. But you can suggest me any good policy which fulfill above conditions. Thanks for prompt reply.

Dr.Swati-When you are looking for death risk and high returns then all traditional plans of either LIC or other private insurer fails to deliver. You must understand first what will be the ideal life risk cover for you. It is ideally believed that around 15 times of your yearly income. So If your yearly income is Rs.10,00,000 then death risk should be Rs.1,50,00,000. Second thing return from such policies will be around 6-7% which event will not beat the normal inflation rate. So think and act.

Thank you for your reply…..actually I have one policy which is not money back but purely for death risk. so please suggest me good money back policy. sorry for confusion.

Dr.Swati-If your life risk fully covered by your existing plan then I don’t think you need to consider such plans where the return will not even beat the inflation rate. If you are looking for safety then PPF will work out better option than these plans. The rest is left with you.

Hi,

I have a Jeevan Saral policy. What will happen if I stop paying premiums after 5 years and do not surrender it. Will it attract any penalty from 6th year onwards? I don’t want to surrender it after 5th year.

Praveen-If you stop paying premium over 5 years then it will be under lapsed condition where you lose the risk also. Instead I suggest you continue or discontinue based on your goal and financial compulsions.

thanks sir but still i m confused, so i m sending u my problem through email.plz solve.

Ritesh-Sure.

sir i have already sended u e-mail on [email protected].

Ritesh-Check my reply.

Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti,

My dob is 05-07-1981, and JEEVAN SARAL Plan details are as follows:

Policy Date: 28-04-2012,

qterly premium=Rs.15312,

TABLE=165, TERM=25 yrs,

at the time of policy the agent me a chart and tell me at end of 25 years i will get rs. 6825506,weather is it tru if not then how much i will get after,

1. 10 year

2. 15 year

3. at the end of 25 year

Ritesh-Below are my calculations.

1) For 10 years-Your MSA will be Rs.5,51,000+Loyalty Addition will be Rs.1,37,750 (LA considered is Rs.250 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.6,88,750

2) For 15 years-Your MSA will be Rs.9,61,150+Loyalty Addition will be Rs.4,80,575 (LA considered is Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.14,41,725

3) For 25 years-Your MSA will be Rs.17,61,650+Loyalty Addition will be Rs.17,61,50 (LA considered is Rs.1,000 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.35,23,300

This is the reality. I don’t know how your agent claiming Rs.68, 25,506.

Hi Raj,

I plan to take jeevan Saral, I am 27 years and having twin girls. I like to take two policy for them. Agent says about 1000 rupees monthly premium for 21 years and will get 703231 lakhs at end of the term. Is it better to choose 2000 rupees monthly premium for one policy. Which one is best for me.Kindly reply

Savitha-Instead my suggestion will be take the term plan (equal to the amount you want after 21 years) then rest of the amount in PPF (if you are totally risk averse) else in a well diversified mutual fund. This generates you more than what this plan give you.

Sir,

I want to know my maturity value. I am 23 yrs old. I took this policy 3 months ago for 20 years and total yearly premium is 36000… The agent showed me a table and told i will get 34 lac total MSA. But another agent told me few days ago that i will get 15-16 lac MSA. So now i am confused. Both agent showed me a printed table in which the said value was written. Plz help me….

Raj-In your case MSA will be Rs.8,37,540 and LA (if we consider it as Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 MSA) then it will be Rs.6,70,032. So total receivable will be Rs.15,07,572. So the second who told the receivable around 15-16 lac maturity seems correct that the agent who told you 34 lac.

Dear,

I want to know what is my maturity? My age is 37. I took the policy for 16 years. what we be maturity if I will take out it in 10,11,12,13,14,15,16 years. My premium is 1020 / Month approx.

Kumar-It is impossible to work for each year. Understand the difficulty. Refer the above comments you will come to know the returns you can expect from this policy.

Ok Dear. Could you tel me the 10 & 11 year

Kumar-For 10 years MSA will be Rs.1,07,070+LA Rs.26,767=1,33,837 and for 11 years MSA will be Rs.1,21,270+LA Rs.36,381=Rs.1,57,651. (LA considered Rs.250 and Rs.300 for each Rs.1,000 MSA for 10 and 11 years of policies respectively).

Hi basu

i am new to share market. All bank shares are become very low. so i think to buy bank shares. so please suggest some good shares in any sector…and please give me a portfolio.. investment amount Rs 25000

Anand-First thing I am not the stock the expert in stock analysis. The second thing you are saying that new to the stock market. Hence my advice will be staying away from direct stock investment. First learn how the market works and what are the risk involved in it. Then go ahead of investing. My suggestion for fresher will be equity mutual funds rather than direct investment.

Hi basavraj

Finally found a great blog to clear my doubts. Appreciate your time and efforts.

I have taken jeevan saral last year.

Date of birth 12/11/1987

Policy opened on 10/4/12

Term 25 years

Half yearly premium paid is around 6063 approx .

Can you please tell me my MSA & final return on maturity. Would be thankful if you can send the calculation on [email protected]

Thank you very much.

Dinakar-MSA will be Rs.3,63,850 and LA will be Rs.3,63,850 (I considered LA as Rs.1,000 per Rs.1,000 MSA for 25 year tenure plan). So total will be Rs.7,27,700.

Thank you for the quick reply…

Can you please advise me whether to continue to stay in the policy or exit X years.please advise considering the returns, tax rebate, and other benefits etc.

If exit when is the good time (X).if exit best instrument to invest for returns & second for insurance…

Dinakar-Better to discontinue after completion of 5 years. Best investment options will be based on your financial goals, current financial positions, your risk appetite and lot of things. So without knowing all these basics I can’t advise you plainly.

I am planning to buy LIC Jeevan Saral with the following specifications :

Annual Premium = Rs.60,000

Policy Term = 10 years

Current Age = 42 years

So in 10 years , the total premium i would have paid = Rs.60,000 x 10 years = Rs.6 lakhs

I have 2 questions :

(1) What can i expect as the Maturity Sum Assured ?

(2) Is the above value in point (1) after the tax benefit on interest ?

(3) How does this MSA compare with Bank Recurring FD at 8.75% interest rate ? Assuming i am in the highest tax bracket ?

Munish-My only suggestion is, if you are looking this policy as investment for 10 years then better to avoid. Just have a look at above comments. You notice that for 10 years returns will be around 4%. So better to choose the product based on your financial goal and risk appetite.

Hello Basu!

I scrolled through previous queries and tried to do my own calculations. I have failed and I am disillusioned, plus highly confused. Please help?

Policy details:

Jeevan Saral – Term 20 years – Yrly Premium Payment

Age at commencement of policy was 23 years

Date of commencement :Aug.2009

Premium of Rs.3000/- Monthly

Sum assured : Rs.7,50,000/-

Maturity Sum Assured (on policy receipt document) : Rs.8,37,540/-

My questions:

1. My final yearly premium is Rs.35,280/- (36k minus 2% rebate……… nothing else is charged to me, how?)

2. Acc. to the example chart of Rs.100/- monthly premium, and your method, my MSA for 20 years should have been Rs. Rs.28,039*30 = Rs. 841170/- (but the figure mentioned in my document is lesser!)

3. I have no idea how to calculate the Loyalty Addition, but I am scared that it will be too little. In any case, my final query is No.4 below:

4. i do not wish to continue the policy till 20 years. Please tell me the total maturity amount if I surrender the policy after

(i) after paying 10 premiums

(ii) after paying 11 premiums

(iii) after paying 12 premiums

Like Shashank LIC agent pointed out, I became attracted to the chart my agent showed me, the soft copy is available here:

Is this chart reliable and valid at face value or are there hidden conditions? I don’t know if I ended up investing in a crappy policy……… ๐

Please advise!

Krupa-1) It includes the life risk coverage charge and if you are paying yearly or half yearly then the rebate on this. These are front load charges. Apart from that there are charges like agent’s commission, development officer commission, maintenance charges and yearly charges which will not be shown to you.

2) According to the chart available with LIC, for your age of 23 years and the monthly basic premium of Rs.3,000 and terms being 20 years MSA will be Rs.8,37,540 which is exactly matched with what’s mentioned on LIC bond. So I don’t know how you calculated MSA.

3) Nothing to scare as it is reality and you need to face it.

3) (i) For 10 years MSA Rs.3,34,140+LA (@Rs.250 per Rs.1,000 MSA) Rs.83,535=Rs.4,17,675.

(ii) For 11 years MSA Rs.3,79,830+LA (@Rs.300 per Rs.1,000 MSA) Rs.1,13,949=Rs.4,93,779.

(iii) For 12 years MSA Rs.4,25,940+LA (@Rs.350 per Rs.1,000 MSA) Rs.1,49,079=Rs.5,75,019.

I specifically removed the link which you mentioned in your comment as I don’t know the source of the site and also for some security reasons.

Now after going by the valuation I did and the Mr.X did, decide yourself and take your own decision. My suggestion will be to complete 5 years and close this policy.

Thanks Basavaraj. Appreciate your prompt response.

Hi Basavaraj,

My Jeevan Saral ( T165 ) Policy Details are –

Policy Commencement Date – 19/10/2010

Yearly Premium – 72060

I took this policy at the age of 30.

What is my MSA ? Should i continue to pay the premiums for another 2 years to complete 5 years. This october , it will be 3 years since the policy has been taken. Should i surrender it now ?

What will be my Surrender Values after 5 years and now ?

Your help is really appreciated.

Thanks

I forgot to mention . My Term of the policy is 15 years.

Pravin-MSA after 15 years will be Rs.11,58,000 and LA Rs.5,79,000 (LA @ Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.17,37,000. Better to complete it 5 years then surrender. But I don’t know the exact values of surrender after 5 years. Hence contact your nearest LIC branch.

I am planning to go for this policy. I need some clarification from you.

my age-25years

yearly amnt- 24000

for the term – 15years

So on maturity how much money i would get including everything???

Pranit-Please refer above comments. Returns will be around 6-7%.

yeah its 6-7% but wht i dint get is 6 to 7% of what?sory i am very weak in these mathematical terms. total amount i would pay after 15 years is 360000, then you mean to say 360000 + 6% of 360000???and what i get from your above comments is you are not a fan of this policy. so where should i invest my money?

Pranit-Return of 6-7% is not the simple interest what you are calculating but yearly compounding. This is the way how returns are calculated on any product. I am neither a fan or an enemy of this plan. But just sharing the reality about this product. Investing depends on many consideration like-your income, expenses, current investments, your financial goals and your risk appetite. Hence I can’t share anything plainly on this platform.

Hi Sir,

This is Selvi. Recently i took Jeevan Saral policy and the details are shown below:

Age =29yrs

Monthly Premium = 5000 + 104 (accidental cover) = 5,104rs

Tenure = 20yrs

Sum Assured = 12,50,000rs

What will be the total maturity amount with Loyalty Additions too.

Could you please explain me clearly and tell me how you are calculating the LA percentage.

Thank you

Selvi-Please go through above comments. You will come to know the return expectation from this plan as well as how I calculated.

As an LIC Advisor, I do not agree with 10% returns from Jeevan Saral, Truth would come out in 2014.

It is also being said that returns are on the assumption of LICโs projected investment rate of return of 6% and 10% respectively on the investible portion of the premium. What is Investible Portion or Premium??

Insurance cover of 250 times would also take the charges to highest level

So Please take care….

Shivakumar-Thanks for sharing ๐

I am planning to purchase Jeevan Saral Policy with Monthly Premium of Rs. 500/-. I want to know the Matrurity Amount of it after 25 years n aslo it is worth or should i go for ppf?

Vaidehi-Better to go with PPF than this plan. But at the same time don’t under estimate the importance of insurance in your life. Hence recommending you pure insurance product called “Term Insurance”. Buy it to the tune of your 10-12 times of your yearly income then proceed towards investing in PPF.

Hi, Thanks for your reply.

Can u give me some detailed information if it is possible to you. Coz i dont know much about these investments n all.

1. My Net Monthly Salary is 10000. I can invest Rs. 1000 per month. So it is ok to invest 500 per month in jeevan saral and 500 in ppf?

2. 5 years back i had purchased LIC’s Money Plus Policy. I think its returns till date are not worth. Can i cancel this policy & invest those 50,000 in any other plan which will give me good returns?(Can u suggest Any Single Premium Money Back policy?)

3. What about mutual funds? If i can switch the money plus then i can invest Rs. 1000 per month in any good sip. Can u suggest me some best mutual funds. 3 years back i had invested Rs. 500 per month sip in Reliance Diversified Power Sector Fund which gave me good returns.

Thanking you in advance.

Vaidehi-My answers are as below.

1) Instead I suggest you to cover your life risk by taking an online term plan to the tune of around Rs.20, 00,000 (considering your current income). Then start for investing not the product which is related to insurance+investment.

2) Yes proceed to surrender. Let me know your time horizon for this investment.

3) Again for mutual investment also you need to specify me your goals. Then only I can suggest you.

Thanks Basavraj for investing your precious time. Below are some of my queries :

1) What is an online term plan? What is the processing and what are the benefits coz i don’t know anything about this. What will be the amount i have to invest for this?

2) I am a 28 years married female with 1 year daughter. And already i have purchased 2 LIC Policies on my daughter’s name. I don’t remember the plan name but can give you the details by tomorrow. In such scenario, for the money plus surrender and its future investment, can you suggest me the time horizon and some good plans.

3) There are not any specific goals but want to earn extra money (good interest or say returns) on my hard earned investment. Can we consider investing in gold here?

1) Term plans are actual insurance products. Suppose you bought around Rs.20,00,000 Sum Assured plan for the period of 30 years, then if your death occurs during the 30 year policy period then your nominee will receive the sum assured of Rs.20,00,000. If you survive till 30 years then you will not receive anything. That is why they are so cheap. Buying online will reduce the cost of insurance payment as there is no agent involved. But you need to take care of all the things yourself. Like policy lapse in future then you need to contact the company and revive it as there is no agent involved. Hence taking bit pain of active participation in financial matters will actually save your money a lot.

2) Time horizon you need to tell, how can I set goals for you?

3) If your waiting period is more than 5 years then go for mutual fund investments (well diversified mutual funds) else invest in a debt products like FDs, RDs or some debt funds. Gold should be around 10% of your investable corpus not more than that. That too strictly not in the form of physical gold.

Hi Basavraj,

1) I’am not interested in term plans as after maturity i’m not supposed to receive a single penny.

2) For the money plus surrender and its future investment, I can invest for 10-15 years.

3) Yes i can wait for more than 5 years. Plz suggest some best mutual funds. I can invest Rs. 1000/- per month in SIP. How we can invest in gold?

Vaidehi-

1) When I separated Insurance with Investment then you come to know that you will not receive nothing at the end. But for your information on all insurance plans, this is built in charger. They combine Insurance Charge+Investment=Risk during policy period+Maturity amount. I am not forcing you to go with any plan or product. This is the reality and it is now left with you to decide.

2) Post surrender of Money Plus just drops the comment, based on values and goal period I recommend you the product.

3) Invest in Franklin India Blue-chip Fund-Direct Plan-Growth. (No agent if you go directly. So processing work must be by you only but you can see the fruits of your work when your returns differentiate around 2% from investing through the mutual fund advisor).

Hi Basavraj,

Thanks for your prompt n quick reply n also for your suggestions.

1) I thought about Term Insurance & serached for some options on policybazar.com for Term Insurance. They have suggested 1 plan of Bharti Axa with Premium of Rs. 3286 per year for Rs. 25 Lakhs & period of 38 Years. It is worth or any other options are available?

2) About the Franklin Templeton Mutual Fund, is it a best fund & will give me good returns after 5 years? ( I know you cannot guarantee of any product but what your study says? Means the returns will vary on market situation or they are assured?)

3) About Money Plus Surrender i’m still thinking about it & in a dilemma of to do or not to do? I know it’s not giving good returns but still thinking about what to do in this situation?

Vaidehi-You can go ahead with this also. But do remember that don’t hide anything about your financial conditions or health issues (if they exists). Franklin is a good and old fund which has performed well for long. So you can go ahead. I recommended this plan considering the long term view. So think beyond 5 years ๐ Better to go ahead with money plus.

Hi Basavraj,

Thanks.

1. What should be the duration (Term) for investing in Franklin Templeton then?

2. Please please suggest me what to do about Money Plus Policy coz till date i have invested Rs. 60,000 in that & its current price as on 25.08.2013 was Rs. 57,500/-.

Vaidehi- During will be more than 5 years. Take it as the penalty you are paying for your blind investment style. Start afresh. This is my advice.

Thanks. But what about Money Plus?

Vaidehi-I recommended you to surrender it.

Hi, Basavraj,

Do you have any detailed information of HDFC Classic Assure Plus Plan? As i told you i searched for some plans on policybazar.com, they have came up with this plan. Can u advise me?

Vaidehi-It is a normal traditional plan of HDFC. What is your actual requirement for choosing this plan? I don’t see any special feature to go for this plan.

Can you please provide the Basic maturity sum assured chart for Jeevan Saral? My LIC agent has told me that if I invest 2042 per month for 20 years, My DAB would be 5,00,000/- and upon maturity I will get 1602900/-. My age is 25 years.

An up-I don’t have the list softcopy to publish it (But your agent will have that list). In your case MSA will be Rs.5,56,280. So if you consider LA as Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 MSA, then total LA will be Rs.4,45,440. So total return will be Rs.10,01,720. I don’t know how your agent calculated.

first of all. Thanks for this article Mr basavaraj .i read all the above comments. then u can tell me some good plan with high return & risk cover, can you please tell me some investment

method. investment amount 50000 p/a……

Anand-Your time horizon?

15years

thank u sir, 50000 Rs for 15 years and another 50000 Rs for 1 or 3 years which give high return…

thank u basavaraj … 50000 rs for 15 years and another 50000rs for 3 years…

Anand-For short term of 1-3 years either go with FDs, RDs or Debt Funds. For long term of around 15 years, I suggest you around 30% into PPF and rest 70% into equity (well diversified mutual fund).

Thank you Basavaraj……..

TS Anand-Pleasure ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

I have purchased a Jeevan Saral Policy yesterday.

Below are the detials for the same:

Yearly Premium : 36000 (Including DAB )

Term : 22 yrs

Current Age : 38 yrs

The insurance agent has claimed that I will get Rs 29,90,149 at maturity with (10 % L.A).

Can you please tell me how much maturity amount I would get according to you ?

Prithwiraj-Seems same query repeated. So please refer above comments.

Hi Basavaraj,

I have purchased a Jeevan Saral Policy yesterday.

Below are the detials for the same:

Yearly Premium : 24020 (Including DAB )

Term : 20 yrs

Current Age : 29 yrs

The insurance agent has claimed that I will get Rs 16,05,540 at maturity with (10 % L.A).

Can you please tell me how much maturity amount I would get according to you ?

Rahul-In your case MSA will be Rs.5,49,480. LA I considered as Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 MSA (considering the current LA rates for 10 and 11 yrs policies which are Rs.250 and Rs.300 respectively). So your LA will be Rs.4,39,584. So total return will be Rs.9,89,064. I don’t know what magic returns your agent showed you. Also what you are saying as 10% LA is not the right way of calculation. LA will be per Rs.1,000 MSA but not in % term.

Thank you Basavaraj for the quick response.

Rahul-Pleasure ๐

Hello Basavaraj,

I purchased a jeevan saral policy on 10/06/2011 for a ten year term with MSA Rs 2,2,1820,Accidental Benefit SA 5 Lakh,Term Rider 5 Lakh. My yearly premium is (23,520+5,000)=24,020.My Date of Birth is 01/07/1983.I want to know how much money I will get at the time of maturity.

Jyoti-You are entitled to receive MSA+LA. Currently LA rate for 10 year term policy is Rs.250 per Rs.1,000 MSA. So total LA in your case will be Rs.55,455. So the total you receive Rs.2, 77,275.

Hi Basavraj,

Thanks for your quick response. If I surrender my Jeevan Saral policy after five years of premium paying how much money I will get? Will It be good for me to continue or tp surrender the policy?

Jyoti-Regarding surrender after 5 years better you contact the nearest LIC branch as I don’t have data for the same. My suggestion will be to surrender once it completes 5 years.

Hi Basavaraj

Me started working as an LIC Agent few days back only, My D.O. shown me this Jeevan Saral policy with the Charts showing the maturity amount in different years. It looked very attractive from the maturity amount given in the chart…more than double in the starting years (min 10 years) and getting bigger as the term increases. But today i decided to study more about it, so i just gave a look at the book which is given to the agents and found out that the Maturity Amount would be MSA + Loyality additions….now i searched for the MSA and shocked to look at the figures and after calculating the L.A. it was seen that it is completely a waste of Money…..and after searching for it’s return on the net i found your article that helped me a lot and i have decided not to sell this product to anyone….

Thanks a lot for such a good article..

If u know any good plans (Good Returns + Risk Cover) of LIC do mail me [email protected]

Again thanking you for saving me and people hard earned money

Shashank-Wonderful decision what you did on behalf of your clients. Do the same whenever you come across some product before recommending that to your client. If you are ready to invest when you sit as a client then go ahead with recommending them. Today your DO may be luring you to get new business. But once he transfer then you are the person who have to live with your client and need to maintain the relationship. So do research in every aspect. For your information I am also LIC agent. But I am a staunch believer that LIC’s products are low yielding. Hence we need to recommend the client maximum to his debt portion of the investment. Not more than that. So to me term plan seems to be a great product. If you are really a insurance agent then canvas LIC’s term plan.

I know LIC products are low yielding but there are some products which give a little better payouts. I will study about Term Plans provided by LIC. It’s good that you are also LIC Agent atleast i can show faith on what you suggest as now i can’t come under influence of my DO.

My main motive of becoming LIC Agent was to help people and to earn money, so i try to study the details of any products before selling them.

If you know some good plans of Money Back and Endowment then let me know on my mail id. Also do send me the link of your facebook profile.

Shashank-Each plan is unique and suited to particular clients. I am not saying that any product is good or bad. Sometime a good product may not suite to a client and a product which is bad may suited to some other. So understand client’s need then based on that recommend the product. The only growth mantra in the financial industry is-Client centric. How much you care, understand and share the knowledge with them then that much will be your business growth. Hence be client centric first.

I started this policy on this Feb 2013. Now i am planning to put this same policy for my brother. whose age is 22. Is this policy is good for investment.

Pragadeesh-Please go through above comments. You will get fair idea about your return from this policy.

I pay a premium of Rs 24504 per year. My DOB is 1-OCt-1988. What will i get if i surrender the policy after 10 years or 15 years.

Hi Basavaraj,

I have a Jeevan Saral policy taken on 12/2009, my DOB is 25/04/1983. I am paying premium of 6125 quarterly. Policy term is 21 years

Can you please calculate for me the maturity amount. Also if I have to exit from this policy what should be the exit strategy.

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Sandeep

Sandeep-Have a look at my above comment to your query.

Dear Basu,

I find information from your website very useful, nice piece of work, i appreciate

I have a Jeevan Saral policy with quarterly premium 6125 for 21 years term. I have started this policy in 12/2009 and SA is 500000. Please advise on below queries –

1. What would be maturity amount after full term?

2. As I understand from the post, Jeevan saral is not a good investment, I am planning to get out of it. So my question is what would be the best year to get out of the policy. starting from 5yr to 11 yr. I understand there will be some bonus paid from 10th yr onward.

3. If I exit after 5 yr term, and start a ppf contribution for the same amount, how much amount I’ll end up with in the end (Surrender Amount + return from PPF after 15 yrs)

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Sandeep

DOB is 25/04/1983

Sandeep-Your understanding is right. So I will not answer to your first query as it is the repeatation of what I did to above comments. So below are my answers to another two quarries.

1) Better to surrender at 5th year. LA data not available for 5th year. But when you surrender the policy after 5 years then policy term is treated as 5 years only. So go ahead and come out of this low yielding product once you complete 5 years.

2) For surrender value you need to contact your nearest branch. Now when it comes to PPF, my suggestion will be paying monthly instead of quarterly. So if you pay monthly Rs.2,000 before 5th of every month then return from PPF at the end of 15th year will be Rs.6,39,899. If you pay the same installments after 5th of every month then return will be Rs.6,35,468. But before cancelling this plan first have term insurance to cover your life risk then go ahead of surrendering.

Hi Basavaraj

I was reading your blog and i have some doubt about LICs Jeevan Saral Plan

I had Jeevan saral policy taken from 14/03/2008, monthly premium Rs 1531/- (SA Rs 3,75,000/-)

tenure 35 years, according to Lic agent chart my maturity is Rs 50,75,000/-

Withing tenure I will pay premium only Rs 6,43,020/-

I am confuse how lic will give me more than Rs 50Lacs after maturity?

Can you please explain me exact maturity amount after 35 year.

I am planning more investment in jeevan saral policy this year. can i do that please help

my budget is Rs 3000/- PM premium

My details as follows

DOB: 13/11/1982

Age: 31 Years

Please Help for the same

Thank a lot

Manoj-I don’t know from which chat your agent showed the maturity amount of Rs.50,75,000. But my calculation is as below.

If I consider your age at the time of policy started then your age will be 25 years. Then MSA (which is guaranteed amount you receive on maturity) will be Rs.7,86,072. If we go by current trend of LA which is Rs.250 and Rs.300 for 10 and 11 years policies then we can presume the LA for 35 years as Rs.1,500 per Rs.1,000 MSA. So total LA will be Rs.11,79,108. So total you can receive around Rs.19,65,180.

Thanks

Thanks for the prompt reply. I made a mistake in writing my age is 40 when I took the policy so the returns are poor as per my expectation. some suggestions for return of 10%

Shailendra-In that case again your return will reduce. What will be your expected period? If it is more than around 10-15 years then go ahead with mutual funds (equity)+PPF or Debt Funds.

Sorry Sir the annual premium is 24020 its a mistake in writing the earlier one

Hi Sir,

My details are as mentioned below

Date of Birth – 26th November, 1971

Policy Taken February 2011

Monthly premium – 24020

Term – 20 yrs

MSA – 500240

What will be the maturity amt expected

Shailendra-In your case (I considered your age during the policy buying was 30 years) MSA will be Rs.5,46,900 but not the amount you mentioned. I think you mentioned SA which is 250 times of your monthly premium. Now LA I considered for calculation is Rs.800 per Rs.1, 000 MSA. So total LA will be Rs.4,37,520. Your maturity amount will be MSA+LA.

Hi Basavaraj Sir,

My Details are as below:

DOB: 6th March 1987

Policy: Jeevan Saral – 165

Policy Date: 22nd February 2011

Term : 20 years

Monthly Premium : Rs. 3032.50

MSA : Rs. 8,36,280

I need to know what would be an approximate LA & total returns on maturity of policy.

Sumit-Considering the term you can assume the LA rate as Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 of MSA. So your approximate total LA will be Rs.6,69,024.

Hi Sir, If anybody ,more than 55 yrs, want to go for Jeevan Saral then what will be the return after 15yrs if he pays 400 mly. As i think the return will be much lesser than his invested amount.wht will be the suggested plan for aged people?

Anirban-I suggest you not go for this plan. Reason is, in this plan as one buy this plan at older the MSA will decrease proportionally. Hence better to opt for other safer products like PPF.

HI,

I took a jeevan saral policy with Quartelry payment of 6125 . It started on 08/08/2010 and ends on 08/08/2040. Please let me know how much will I get while maturity and also how much will I get If I surrender after 3 , 4 and 5 years.

Anyway thanks for your article. Its a great pleasure, I dont see these informations are available even in LIC site. Great work.

I missed the sum assured. It is 5 lakh

Sunderson-Please let me know your age while taking the plan. Also I can’t say how much you get if you surrender the policy after 3,4 or 5 years. Hence for that data you need to contact LIC branch. I can only calculate for 30 years return in your case. Hence provide the age while taking this plan.

Age while taking this plan was 24. That’s okay. Please let me know for 30 years

Suderson-MSA will be Rs.8,98,800 and if we consider LA as Rs.1,300 per Rs.1,000 MSA then total LA will be Rs.11,68,440. So you receive total Rs.20,67,240. Return on investment is 6.09%.

Dear Sir,

I took the Jeevan Saral Policy in the year 2009 with the annual premium of Rs 12010.00 only for the period of 10 years hence the maturity falls in the 11 th year of the policy. The Death Benefit Sum Assured is mentioned in the policy is Rs 250000= 00 . My date of birth is 13.06.1964 hence at the time of taking the policy the undersigned was 45 years old.

You are requested to kindly let me know the Maturity Sum Assured alongwith Additional Loyality Bonus if any, in the present circumstances keeping in view if i pay all 10 nos of premiums.

manoj kapoor

Manoj-Your MSA will be Rs.96,790 and LA according to current rate will be (I considered Rs.250 per Rs.1,000 MSA) Rs.24,197. So totally you receive Rs.1,20,987.

HI Basavaraj,

I m 28 year old. i want to take jeevan saral policy-165 for 10 years starting from 01-01-14 with a monthly premium of 5000/-.

i want to know what would i get after 10 years?

Vikash-Please go through above comments. Return for 10 years will be around 4%.

Hi Basavaraj,

I brought a LIC Jeevan Saral Policy (165) for 20 years, I am paying Qterly premium of 15312 (monthly 5104/-). Policy sum assured value 12,50,000/-.

I want to reduce the premium(5104/-) to 2000/- per month, is there any way to reduce the premium?

And could you please let me know my total maturity value?

Thanks and Regards,

Mangesh

Mangeshbiradar-Regarding reducing the premium payment, please contact your nearest branch. I am not sure this option is available. Because the risk factor also increases when they look at today than what they issued you the plan. Return from this policy will be around 6-7%. For detailed view on the same refer the above comments.

Thanks brother

Praveen-Pleasure ๐

Thanks and sorry i suppose to ask which is the best term police.Can u guide me.And i have any chance to withdraw my jeevan mitra triple cover.

Praveen-Best to diversify your risk among insurer like among ICICI, HDFC and LIC. Their claim settlement ratio also high compare to others but costlier compare to others. So take your call based on your comfort.

I have one more question,already i am paying one policy called JEEVAN MITRA TRIPLE COVER per year 10600/-on 22/04/2006.Now shall i continue this policy or withdraw and turn to PPF.If i withdraw this policy how much will i get and i continue how much will i get

Praveen-Before closing this plan first buy a term plan for yourself then go ahead in surrendering these policies. You can surrender this policy after 3 years. For exact figures contact your nearest LIC branch.

Thanks for ur advise and which is the best PPF and term police

Praveen-There is only PPF so don’t ask which is the best PPF. Now regarding term plan do your own search based on the premium and comfort with insurer choose the product.

Dear Sir,

My age is 41 years, my monthly jeevan saral premium is 7000, I have already paid for 2 years , should I continues for remaining 18 years or do what.Please advise. THANK YOY

Shilpa-Please continue till 5 years of policy period then surrender it.

Thank you sir

But is there any other plan where I can invest for say 15 years for retirement support fund

Shilpa-You can try NPS or PPF (if you are risk averse and ready to compensate return for the part of safety and contribute more to reach your retirement goal). Else best option is to combine PPF or Debt Fund with Equity Fund to get better retirement corpus in the long run.

Hey Basavaraj.My name is Praveen and i much impressed your answers.My DOB is 05/03/1977.I would like to take policy for year 60000/- for 20 years.One of my friend (LIC Agent) suggested me to take Geevan saral . Actually i need 30 to 40 lacks after my death or maturity.He was suggested with jeevan saral and one term policy(non refundable) 10000/-( per annam).And he is offering me first instalment(annam)50% discount.Is it good for me or is there any other good policy . please suggest me.Thanku

Praveen-First serious thing, according to IRDA sharing commission is a wrong. Now if your agent is doing so then please verify what motive he have to sell this particular product. Does your doctor share his fee with you while giving treatment? If that doctor is sharing his fee then will you believe how much he is efficient? Same applies to investment also.

My suggestion will be (if you are totally risk averse) simply go for PPF by paying the same amount of Rs.60,000 and you will receive around Rs.29,35,000 which is your nearest value. Now at the same time take the term insurance of Rs.30,00,000 (but my serious suggestion will be to cover at least around 10-12 times of your yearly income). If you do so then if something happens to you in between these 20 years then your nominee will receive Rs.30,00,000 and if nothing happens then you will receive Rs.29,35,000 from PPF. Returns from Jeevan Saral is very low. So my advice will be not to go with this plan.

Basavaraj Thanks for your reply.

I have one more query, i took SBI flexi smart policy in 2012 for my wife (age 26) for 15 years and i have paid a premium of 27000 (yearly 18000). What is your advise on this policy. Shall i continue this policy or not. Approx. how much returns i can expect after 15 years.

thanks..

RK-This is the traditional plan of SBI. So my suggestion will be to surrender it once it completes 3 years.

Dear Basu,

Can you explain me mutual fund Vs ULIP difference, & Which is one better. What’s the risk level in both.

Age -30

Regards:-

Siddalingappa

Siddalingappa-ULIPs are a combo product of Insurance+Investment. Liquidity is low as some charges you need to pay during certain period of term. Expense point view too ULIPs costlier. Mutual Funds are pure investment products with liquidity and cost efficient. Risk level depends on the product you choose, both offer equity as well as debt investment. To me with lot of flexibility I prefer Mutual Funds over ULIPs

Hi Basavaraj,

I took Jeevan saral at age of 35 years on June 2012 and my half yearly premium is 12130 and the tenure is 15 yrs. Could you please tell me the Maturity amount after 15 years.

Thanks

RK

RK-Your MSA will be Rs.3,76,000 and LA will be Rs.1,88,000 (I considered LA as Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA). So your return will be Rs.5,64,000.

Thanks for your reply.

Actually i am going to pay a total of 3,64,000 for 15 yrs. I think the maturity amount which i will get is not worthy. In this case shall i continue this policy or not? If not after which year can i surrender this policy?

thanks..

RK-Pleasure ๐ Best option is to surrender after 5 years.

Hi Basavaraj,

It is really a pleasure to have such a good knowledge sharing from you.

I need to know the expected returns for me,Details are as given below.

Policy Name:- Jeevan Saral.

My age when i took this planwas:-29 yrs.

Monthly installment:-5104/-

Plan term is:- 25 years.

Total Maturity Sum Assured:-1250000.

Can you pls help me calculate the amount which i would be getting @ of maturity.

Also if i would surrender this after completing 5 years what i can expect.

Br//Neeraj

Neeraj-Just go through above comments, you notice that if your policy term is around 25 years then return from this policy will be around 7% and if it is 5 years then it will be around 3-4%. Still have doubts then let me know.

Dear Sir,

I was lulled in to the belief that I would get great maturity amount by investing in the jeevan saral plan 165.I have taken the policy w.e.f.8.3.2010.I while i am 59 years old.my instalment premium for main plan is 14,849/-Instalment accident benefit premium is 312.50 totaling to rs.15162, being paid half yearly. maturiy date is 8.3.2021(11 years policy) DSM is 6,25,000/- Maturity sum assured is 98725/-my queries are

1) I have completed more than 3 years of premium payments.Is it better to surrender now or after paying 5 years of premiums?

2) can i get back 100% of paid premiums?

3) Am i eligible for any other additional benefits surrendering after 5 years?

Pl.enlighten me and help me to avoid squander away my pension furthe.

Thanks and bear with me for the trouble.

prabakaran

N.Prabhakaran-I am extremely sad to hear that at this stage of your life someone sold the policy to you. My answers are as below.

1) Better to complete 5 years, as once your policy complete 5 years then policy will be treated as if the 5 year term policy and you will get the benefit fully instead of reducing benefits.

2) This I can’t say, because you contact your nearest LIC branch or servicing branch. They will definitely give you information about the money you receive exactly. But in my view your premiums will be back but with low return.

3) Please refer my first answer.

Thank you sir for endowing your valuable time and advice and also for your concern towards me.

N.Prabakaran-Pleasure ๐

I have taken Jivan Saral Policy of yearly premium Rs. 24020 with 30 year term on 29th June 2013 , my date of birth is 15-7-88. According to agent total matured amount will be 4513022 lacs , sir please let me know in detail , how they calculated this amount and is it sure and firm return after 30 year.

Naveen-First ask your agent how he arrived at this amount. Share the same details with me then we discuss whether it is correct or not.

HI MR, TONAGATTI

FIRST OF ALL THANKS FROM BEHALF OF ALL THE VISITORS ABOVE

NOW PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WILL I GET AFTER 10 , 15 AND 20 YEARS OF MATURITY IN JEEVAN SARAL FOR YEARLY PREMIUM OF RS . 12000.

MY AGE IS 26

THANKS

MUSA-Please have a look at the above comments, returns from 10 yrs will be around 4%, for 15 years it is around 5% to 6% and for 20 years it will be around 7%.

And i’ll be really grateful if you could tell me the rate of interest given in these ppf accounts.

Thanks a lot but could u please tell me as to what sum can we expect to get at the end of the period of

1. 3 years

2. 5 years

coz she doesnt really wannna continue this scheme for more than 3 years.I am really sorry if am pestering you but am really at my wit’s end regarding this thing..:P

Vaidehi-Better if you opt for 5 year surrender, because when you surrender after 5 years than it will be considered as normal plan with a term of 5 years. But I am sure that the returns will be around 4-5%. I am unable to say the exact figures as I don’t have any data for those years. The current PPF interest rate is 8.7% compounding annually.

Also if she closes the plan as of now without continuing for either 3 years or 5 years then her tax exemption which she took under Sec80C will be reversed. As the rule states that one need to continue minimum of 2 years from the policy commencement date to avail that benefit. So let her complete 5 years.

Hi Basavaraj, My mother just invested Rs 36000 in a jeevan saral plan.She is 50 years old.She took the policy fora period of 10 years and she has just paid 1 premium. she will be paying them on an yearly basis.She mainly took the policy to avail the tax exemptions but now that we have done some research about this policy we aren’t quite sure that we took the right decision.Now i’ll be really grateful if you could possibly tell us as to whether we should continue this policy or not.If yes then should she pay the premiums till the 3rd or the 5th year?and if no, then will she be able to recover the amount that she payed in the first premium if she invests in ppf.Pardon me if the language is really confusing and do help us out.:)

Vaidehi Singh-It is hard to say that to forget this Rs.36,000 but smarter than continuing your premium payment for another 9 years and getting returns of around 4% to 5%. I am totally no word to say after considering your mother’s age factor. So balanced approach will be paying for another 4 years (means policy completes 5 years) then you can close this immediately and put the proceedings in any debt portfolio considering her age. Now when you look at tax saving perspective this looks beautiful but I recommend something better than this like PPF (15 years) and some portion into tax saving FDs (bur interest earned is taxable) instead of this scheme.

HI,

i am investing Rs 12250 per quarter in jeevan saral plan. i have doubt whether investing a sum of 49k in insurance is good or else i could invested in equity, pls help me and let me know will it be good if i pay in one single premium per year of 49 k. do revert the same

Ramesh-My suggestion will be to take term plan (just to consider insurance as a risk mitigating product rather than an investment), rest invests in other asset classes based on your goals and risk appetite. I am not saying that you need to invest in equity. But based on your goal you can choose the asset class.

so wat can i do with this saral plan can i continue or what the best can be done pls suggest, as am totally confused what to do

Ramesh-No don’t continue if policy completed 5 years. Just surrender it and manage as I said above.

your recommendation is to stop after 5 years so i guess i should not be entering into this at all.. my financial planner is strongly recommending this to me !

P Nair-Just do your research who is right and who is wrong. Then decide yourself ๐

Hi..Can I Assume that the loyalty addition for a term 25 years will be Rs. 1000 per 1000 SA.???Also let me know whether this bonus is one time or yearly from 10 th year onwards??

Anil-You can assume around Rs.1,300 to Rs.1,400, and for your information this not per Rs.1,000 SA instead it is per Rs.1,000 MSA. It is the one time and based on the term you choose.

thanks….

Hi , i have 5 jeevan saral policies, with monthly premium of Rs.2042 each, i.e. 1,22,520 per year. my policies’ commencement date is 27/06/2010 . i’ve completed paying premium for 3 years. Kindly let me know the maximum loan availability on these policies. Thanks.

Deepak-Visit your nearest branch for this info.

Hi Basavaraj,

Monthly Premium : Rs. 5000

Term : 15 years

MSA : Rs. 9,24,250

LA (Based on assumptions) : Rs. 4,62,125

Total : Rs. 9,24,250 + Rs. 4,62,125 = Rs. 13,86,375

Based on your earlier reply, I have derived the MSA and LA after 15 years will be

Rs. 13,86,250 is not a good return, and infact if we invest the same amount in PPF for 15 years, we will get Rs. 18,70,365.

The only added advantage of Jeevan Saral, is that it provides life cover.

I also have pamphlet which contains details regarding maturity amount, and based on that, If we invest Rs. 5000 monthly for 15 Years in Jeevan Saral, the maturity amount will be Rs. 22,21,985. I have absolutely no idea on how this amount is derived. Apart from LA, are there any other bonus components which gets added to MSA on maturity.

Can you please suggest if I should be continuing this policy ?

If I surrender this policy after 5 years, how much will I get ?

Thanks

Hi,

am planning to invest Rs2000 per month for 15yrs term in Jeevan Saral policy. My present age is 36yrs. Could u please tell me the returns i get after 15yrs..?

RKReddy-Please let me know the reason behind choosing this plan.

Hi,

I was told by an LIC agent that if i invest Rs2000 per month for 15 yrs term in Jeevan saral policy, i would get Rs888794 as returns after 15 yrs. I dont know how he derived at this huge amount. But, ur calculation says much lesser than what agent said. Pl clarify me regarding this difference…

thanks is advance…

RKReddy-Just ask your agent what LA he considered to come to the amount what he is claiming.

Hi,

My LIC agent explained me as below..

Rs2000 X12 months X 15 years= 3,60,000(The total premium i would be paying for 15yrs. This may differ depending on DB Charges)

So, Total maturity amount at 15yrs is double the premium paid. ie, 7,20,000

LA is 45% of total premium paid. ie, 3,60,000 X 45%= 1,62,000

Bonus @ 1.2% of Total premium. ie, 3,60,000 X 1.2%= 4,320

So, Total amount would be around 8,86,320.

RKReddy-For your information,

1) Nowhere it is written that maturity amount after 15 years will be double the premium you paid.

2) LA will be on maturity sum assured but not on the premium you paid also not on percentage terms. It is like Rs.250 per Rs.1,000 MSA for 10 years of policies.

3) In this policy there is no bonus, but only MSA and LA.

Hope you may now got a clarity where your agent misguiding you ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

Sorry for posting this again. Forgot to mention loyalty additions in my earlier query.

Thanks for a wonderfully written article which helped me understand LIC’s Jeevan Saral policy.

My name is Ganesh and I have a Jeevan Saral policy with a monthly premium of Rs. 5104 and, my age when I took the policy was 37 years.

Can you please let me know of the MSA and LA at the end of 15 years and 20 years ?

Would appreciate if you could also help me out with the calculation of MSA and LA at the end of 15 and 20 Years.

Thanks a ton in advance.

Ganesh-MSA what I quoted above in reply to your comment is guaranteed. Now the LA part is based on LIC’s performance. Considering the current LA rate of Rs.250 and Rs.300 for 10 and 11 yrs policies, we may may presume that LA for 15 yrs and 20 yrs will be Rs.500 and Rs.800 respectively per Rs.1,000 MSA. So LA in your case will be Rs.4,62,15 and Rs.10,29,880.

Hi Basavaraj,

Monthly Premium : Rs. 5000

Term : 15 years

MSA : Rs. 9,24,250

LA (Based on assumptions) : Rs. 4,62,125

Total : Rs. 9,24,250 + Rs. 4,62,125 = Rs. 13,86,375

Based on your earlier reply, I have derived the MSA and LA after 15 years will be

Rs. 13,86,250 is not a good return, and infact if we invest the same amount in PPF for 15 years, we will get Rs. 18,70,365.

The only added advantage of Jeevan Saral, is that it provides life cover.

I also have pamphlet which contains details regarding maturity amount, and based on that, If we invest Rs. 5000 monthly for 15 Years in Jeevan Saral, the maturity amount will be Rs. 22,21,985. I have absolutely no idea on how this amount is derived. Apart from LA, are there any other bonus components which gets added to MSA on maturity.

Can you please suggest if I should be continuing this policy ?

Thanks

Ganesh-Difference between Jeevan Saral and PPF according to you is Rs.4,84,115 (that is the value of amount after 15 years). Now if we make it to today’s term with the return of around 8% then today’s value of that Rs.4, 84,115 is Rs.1, 52,613. This is what your cost to cover your life risk for the rest 15 years with Sum Assured of Rs.12,50,000. If you purchase the same life risk coverage from the same LIC term plans for 15 years then it will cost you yearly Rs.5,752 (I considered your age as 40 years, Sum Assured Rs.10,00,000, Plan name-Anmol Jeevan and term 15 years). So decide yourself which is best.

In Jeevan Saral there are two components one receives MSA and LA. MSA is constant and guaranteed for each age and term. So fluctuating part is LA which depends on LIC declaration. I calculated LA based on the current trend and don’t know the source of their calculation.

As I already recommending to all, better to discontinue after 5 years completion.

Thanks a ton for your detailed reply.

If I surrender after 5 years, how much will I get back, considering the premium I am paying is Rs. 5104 / month.

Ganesh-I don’t have data about 5 years. Hence better to contact your nearest LIC branch or your servicing branch.

Thanks for all the help

Ganesh-Pleasure ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

Thanks for a wonderfully written article which helped me understand LIC’s Jeevan Saral policy.

My name is Ganesh and I have a Jeevan Saral policy with a monthly premium of Rs. 5104 and, my age when I took the policy was 37 years.

Can you please let me know of the MSA at the end of 15 years and 20 years ?

Would appreciate if you could also help me out with the calculation of MSA at the end of 15 and 20 Years.

Thanks a ton in advance.

Ganesh-In your case MSA for 15 years will be Rs.9,24,250 and for 20 years Rs.12,87,350.

I have taken jeevan saral half yearly premium 21227, age of starting is 26. term 35 years. MSA 1823325. Accident benefit SA 8750000. Could yo u please tell me how much will I get after 35 years?

thanks

Joseph-Please read above comments, you come to know the probability of return from this policy.

if not LIC then which other investment can be done annually may be for amount of 25000…thanks..

RK-First cover your life risk to the tune of 10-12 times of your yearly income by taking term insurance of your choice. Next invest monthly some part in 40% in PPF, in well diversified funds like Franklin India Bluechip Fund (G) 30% and HDFC Prudence Fund (G) 30%. Hope this will be a good and well diversified non risky investment for you.

can you suggest a good LIC plan with good returns for my baby thats born this year.I would like your advice for a child plan

Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti,

My dob is 16-JuN-1988, and JEEVAN SARAL Plan details are as follows:

Policy Date: 10-SEP-2012,

I have paid Yearly Premium 24,020 ( 23520 + 500(accident benefit premium) )

TABLE=165, TERM=15 yrs,

MSA = Rs.5,00,000/-.

Please let me know the FINAL MATURITY VALUE @ the end of the tenure & plz explain how you would be calculating ? Thanx

Venkat-Please have a look first at above post in detail. In your case MSA is not Rs.5,00,000 but it is Rs.3,91,060 (this is guaranteed amount). The amount you are claiming to be MSA is Sum Assured which your nominee will receive if something happens to you during this 15 years of the policy term. Now considering the LA trend, we may presume that LA for 15 years will be around Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA. So total LA will be Rs.1,95,530. So totally you may receive Rs.5,86,590. Return on investment will be around 6%. Now don’t ask me from where you got this MSA, it is available with your agent from whom you took this policy, just ask for that.

well said sir…can u tel me, shall i proceed with this scheme or shall i discontinue? and plz explain about PPF

Venkat-Discontinue and start afresh as I told. You can view all details about PPF “HERE“

can you tel me the minimum surrender year. say like if i continue for three years, will i get my money? In lic chart it showing as 40,976 for three years.

Please refer the below link. After seeing tht link only, i have commited to take lic jeevan saral.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/41973116/Jeevan-Saral-Chart

Venkat-Minimum surrender year is 3 years. But to get the best benefit it is better to complete 5 years as in that case policy term is treated as 5 years but not surrender. Don’t know the exact how it is calculated in the link provided by you. Neither the consideration of LA rate is visible nor MSA values are simplified. Confusing data showing.

If i continue till 5 years, how much amount will i get

Venkat-Contact your LIC branch.

Hi Basu..I am planning to invest in jeevan saral ATM plan i am currently 36 yr old and want to invest for 10-15 years a monthly premium of max 2000..can you tell me the best duration for which the policy should be taken and the returns that i will get at the maturity (total returns) hope my query is cclear enough :)..thanks in advance

RK-First thing, their no plan in LIC with name Jeevan Saral ATM. It is your agent’s creation. LIC have policy with name Jeevan Saral. Second thing, if you buy it for long term like 35 to 40 years (if LIC permits to buy so long) then your return onvestment may come around 8%. Otherwise your return on investmnet will be around 6% to 7%. So my advice is to stay away from this plan. But I think your agent may give you some rosy pictures about return from this policy. Let me know what you decided finally ๐

Hi Mr. Tonagatti

Sorry for incomplete information. I am 31 years old. have not yet taken policy but planning.This are the information given LIC agent and showed me Jeewan saral Plan. I need ur expert advise to check if the figure listed below is true or not.

If i go for 35 years plan(Jeevan saral), with the monthly premium of Rs 1000, this is wat i could affort monthly, for next 35 years and was told,i will get 36,71,102. Is this correct amount and one more things, after 11th year amoutn would be Rs 2,50,101. Do you think this is true and are the amount correct. please advise. I just need your expert advise to see if the amount they have quoted is correct or not or they are just faking, so that we buy this policy.

Thank you

Rashmi ๐

Rashmi-If consider the data you provided, you will receive MSA (which is guaranteed) of Rs.4,94,740. Now if we go as per current LA trend which is Rs.250 for 10 years and 300 for 11 years, we may presume that LA for 35 years will be around Rs.1,500 to Rs.1,600 per Rs.1,6000 of MSA. So LA will be Rs.7,91,584. So totally you can receive Rs.12,86,324. But the return what your agent showed is highly exaggerated with around 10% which is highly impossible case from this policy. Now if you surrender at 11th year return will again reduce as MSA will be Rs.1, 25,030+LA Rs.37, 509 (LA considered at Rs.300 per Rs.1,000 MSA)=Rs.1,62,539. Now decide yourself to for this policy ๐

Hi Basavraj,

I have been missold Jeevan Anand policy in Feb 2012. The annual premium is 20K and I need to pay for 24 years with a Sum assured of 6lacs. I have paid 2 premiums till now and I want to exit with minimum loss. As I understand, I will have no surrender value if I discontinue now. However, if I surrender after paying 3rd premium, I will get a rough surrender value of 12K (30% of 2 years premium). So I am thinking what is the advantage of paying another 20K when I shall have only 12K surrender value.

I am open to make the policy paid up in case it reduces my losses. What would be your suggestion ?

Pun-To get the best option first visit your nearest branch and check it out the surrender value you receive after 3 years. If it is more than Rs.20,000 then go ahead. Else better to discontinue. But in my view even they too can’t tell you the exact surrender value of the policies which is going to happen in future. Reason is the bonus which your policy accrue in future.

Hence in my view better to wait for another six months then enquiry in your nearest branch. To me it looks better to have surrendered after 3 years. I think you already got benefit under Sec80C of income tax and reversal is not possible too. Because this benefit will be reversed if the policy is terminated/cease to be in force within 2 years after the date of commencement of policy. Which is not applicable for you. Hence wait for another six months and decide.

I think this will help to calculate http://arunsawant.roxaa.com/files/2012/08/165-Jeevan-Saral-Plan.pdf

Thanks. But I have a hard copy of MSA for all age groups. Will try to create it and publish the same.

Mr. Tonagatti, Can you please mail me the readymade table of MSA that you have? It will be great help as I am doubtful that the chart shown by my agent is a fabricated one. My mail id is [email protected]

Amit-I mentioned the same, I don’t have soft copy to mail you.

I got it.

Thank you very much for your efforts and really appreciate your patience

Can you please provide the Basic maturity sum assured chart for Jeevan Saral? My LIC agent has told me that if I invest 2042 per month for 20 years, My DAB would be 5,00,000/- and upon maturity I will get 1602900/-. My age is 30 years.

Amit-Your MSA will be Rs.5,46,900. Even if you presume the LA rate of Rs.1,300 per Rs.1,000 of MSA for 20 year plan then LA will be Rs.7,10,970. So totally you may receive Rs.12,57,870. I don’t have soft copy of MSA. You will get the same from your agent, ask him to provide.

Hi Mr. Tonagatti

This are the information given LIC agent and showed me Jeewan saral Plan. I need ur expert advise to check if the figure listed below is true or not.

If i go for 35 years plan(Jeevan saral), with the monthly premium of Rs 1000, this is wat i could affort monthly, for next 35 years and was told,i will get 36,71,102. Is this correct amount and one more things, after 11th year amoutn would be Rs 2,50,101. Do you think this is true and are the amount correct. please advise.

Rashmi-I need your age when you took this policy. Because it helps me to arrive at calculating maturity sum assured.

Got your point.

last question – What will be my MSA if I complete the full term. Pls show the calculation steps instead of the final value.

Email-I have a ready-made table of MSA for each Rs.100 monthly premium (which you will get with any agent). Based on that I multiply with your monthly premium and arrive at a final figure of MSA. So it is not a big calculation.

Hi ,

I have Jeevan saral policy started on Aug-2010 , Am paying 62000 yearly. 3 years will complete in Aug 2013. Can you please suggest which is better option

1. Discontinue after 3 years , how much i will get ?

2. Can i continue policy with mininum premium of 3000 (250*12). how much i will get on Aug-2013 If i keep policy continue with 3000 per year.

3. Or please suggest any better option

I started this policy at the age of 26

Pravin-Contact your nearest branch to know about the exact figure about how much you get after 5 years. Because I don’t have that 5 year data.

Pravin-Best option to come out of this plan is to complete 5 years then come out.

Thanks basu for your quick response ..

Ok Got it. But how you have calculated Return on investment?

Amal-Your monthly contribution is Rs.2,000 and time period is 120 months (108*20) return on investment is Rs.2,77,825. So compounding return (way to calculate your return for the periods of more than one year) will be 2.88% per annum.

I dont understand how 108 & 20 were derived.

Also help me understand – if i continue to pay the premium for 6 more years then in can get the Sum Assured ie 500000 plus LA at Rs.550 per Rs.1,000 MSA (if it keeps the current rate)

Even if you keep 300 for LA then the amount will be 500000+ 150000 = 650000 ie a ~3.5lakhs more from our earlier calculation in 6 years by paying 144000 as premium.

So is it worth surrendering now ?

I am bad in investment calculations.. so pls help me understand…

Amal-Sorry it is 12*10=120. Why can’t be in the same trap? If you surrender now and start the simple RD then will be richer than what you get after 6 years right? Sum Assured in this policy is only for life risk coverage. You only receive MSA+LA. If something happens to the policy holder during the policy period then his/her nominee will receive that Rs.5,00,000. It is not at all connected to your maturity. So better to surrender now.

Again LA will be per Rs.1,000 of MSA but not on Sum Assured. Hope you got what I am saying.

I have a Jeevan Saral policy of 16 year term with a Sum Assured 5 lakhs. I started this in May 2004. I want to know what will be the surrender value if i close it next year (ie after 10 years) and will i get Loyalty Addition if yes how that can be calculated?

pls ignore my previous comment

Amal-As you completed more than 5 years of term then you are eligible for surrender without any penalty. Now please have a look at above discussions, you notice that if you go to closing this policy then return on your investment will be around 5%. But it does not mean that you will get more return if you continue. Such products are low yielding. Hence my suggestion will be first to have term plan in place first then discontinue this plan immediately. The rest of the amount you invest according to your goal.

Hi Basavaraj

Thank you for your quick reply.

I am planning to discontinue this after taking a term plan which will be linked to my home loan.

By saying eligible for surrender without any penalty – does it mean that

1) I will get the 100% of premium i paid till date? (+ anything else?)

2) Will i get any Loyalty Addition ? if so how can it be calculated?

3) Will it make any difference if i close it in 9 years?

Appreciate your effort

Amal-It is best that you have chosen to buy term plan. But taking term plan of equal to your home loan is another story, and you need to take from protecting the financial burden of home loan. But I do advise you to take term plan of 10-12 times of your yearly income as a separate cover. My answers are as below.

1) If you surrender anywhere after 5 years then the term of the policy is considered as the year till you paid. Hence if you surrender at 9th year then policy term will be considered as 9 year policy and you will get the benefits accordingly. Hence getting back 100% premium is not an issue.

2) Yes you get loyalty. It is calculated on MSA of your policy to the respective age and the term of the policy. Do read detail way of how it is calculated in above post.

3) Nothing much…coming out of bad decisions and starting a fresh will always be a wise decision than being in the bad decision. Hence come out and start afresh is my advice.

Points taken.

and Thank you very much for your advice.

Amal-Pleasure ๐

Basavaraj

Just want to confirm the calculation —

In my case

SA = 2042(premium/month)*12(months)*9(years i paid)=220500

and

LA = 220500*250(LA for 10 Years)/1000 = 55125

Amount i will get = 275625

% of interest in case of RD of 2042/month = 4.70%

Is this calculation correct ?

Amal-It is wrong calculation, provide me your age when you took the policy. It required to calculate.

Pls find the details below

I took policy when i was 26.

Commencement date – 13/05/2004

Sum assured – 500000

Policy term – 16 years

Amal-In your case Maturity Sum Assured will be Rs.2,22,260 (this is guaranteed and is based on your monthly premium and the age at the time of policy start) and LA on this will be Rs.55,565 (LA at Rs.250 per Rs.1,000 MSA). So total receivable will be Rs.2,77,825. Return on investment is a staggering 2.88% !!!! That is why I told you to surrender immediately.

i want to change my policy term. how can do this?

at this time term is 20 year, i need it now 10 year.

pls suggest me.

Sujit-May I know the reason for change?

I have a Jeevan Saral policy of 16 year term with a Sum Assured 5 lakhs. I started this in May 2004. I want to know what will be the surrender value and will i get Loyalty Addition if yes how that can be calculated?

Amal-Please have look at above comments. You will get a fair idea of what will be your returns.

Hi,

I am 25 year Old. I want to take a LIC Policy for around 20-25 years. My annual budget to invest in LIC is 20000-25000.So Please suggest me which Policy I should take ?? Please mention Policy name and Plan no also.

Amit-I have questions for you…can you answer them before I can recommend you a product.

1) Do you plan for any financial goal or planning to have a Life Insurance product?

2) Are you dreaming to fulfill your financial goal or your agent’s financial goal?

3) How much you want to expect the return from this LIC policy?

4) What will be the amount you are looking to have after 20-25 years (please quote current amount but not the future)?

5) May I know the goal details fully?

Dear Basavarj,

Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate your help and way you have explained to a lay man like me who does not have any idea about Insurance. Thank you once again. My understanding for PPF account is for 15 years. If i deposit 1500 per months for 15 years, what would be the total amount at the time of maturity. Does PPF account cover health insurance or its just the returns of premium deposited for 15 years.. Yes am planning for long term .Can you explain what is term plan with simple example and if i decide to go, which would be best with minimum premium. I have made my budget of Rs2000 a month for premium in total, ( insurance +investment) for at least next 15-20 years.

I look forward to your response. Thank you once again.

Rajdeep-Sorry for delayed reply. If you deposit Rs.1,500 every month before 5th for the next 15 years and considering the current interest rate of 8.7%, your return after 15 years will be Rs.5,36,301. PPF is a pure investment product which carry the tax benefit under Sec.80C during the deposit and maturity amount is fully exempt. So it will not come with any insurance like life or health.

Suppose Mr.X whose age is currently 30 years opted for term insurance of Rs.50,00,000 for 30 years then if Mr.X dies within that 30 year period then his nominee will receive Rs.50,00,000, if Mr.X survives till maturity then he will not get anything in return. That is why they are very cheap. My suggestion is to go for online plans (where an agent will not be there and your premium too will get reduced). LIC is the only which is not offered online term plans and it’s offline plan is also costlier than others. Hence it is now your choice to select an insurer and go for it. The important thing to note is, declare all facts what they ask for genuinely without hiding and share about this product details with your family after buying it. Best of luck ๐

Dear Basavarj,

Thank you for replying. Yes, Monthly premium of rs 1500 per months for 35 years for Jeevan saral. I was told i will get 55,006652 at the end of 35 years. Is this true and LIC agent told me minimum lock in period is 10 years where i can do partial or full withdrawal and the amout in 11th year was quoted Rs 375152. Is true. Am not yet married now, was thinking for long term. or can you suggest be best plan.

Rajdeep-It is highly impossible what your agent quoted. He quoted Rs.5, 50,06,652 means the return of around 18%. Just look at the expense ratios of this plan. Let us consider agent’s commission alone, it is 35% in the first year, 7.5% in 2nd and 3rd year and the rest of the period it is 5%. This is only agent’s commission apart from that there are other expenses like management fees. So considering such high expenses are you still believe this policy will generate at least the return of around 12%? No…even it is a high probability that if you get the returns of around 8%. Hence my advice will be to avoid this plan, or simply ask your agent to give the proof of the saying what he is claiming, like a letter from LIC but not from an agent or DO or Branch Manager.

Second thing what he lied is the lock in is 10 years. You can withdraw from this policy after 5 years. So again he lied about this as he will get a commission till you pay. If your waiting period is long, then simply buy a term plan first to cover your life then even if you invest the rest of the amount in any balanced mutual funds or PPF you earn more than what you receive from this policy.Let me know your views too.

Dear Basavarj,

Am 30 years, I was thinking of buy plolicy. I came accross Jeevan saral. I was told by LIC agent that if i invest Rs 1500 for 35 years, i will get 55,006652. Under this i can withdraw after 10 years and amount i get is Rs 319356.. Is this trune.Am confused and your advise would be highly appreciated.I would be greatful, if you can calculate and tell me how much exaclty will i get. i opt for 35 years. Can you also expalin what is PPf. I am looking for long term investment, for futher.

Rajdeep-Please let me know whether the premium you quoted is for monthly or what? You can view all details about PPF Here “All about Public Provident Fund (PPF)“

hi

Ram-Please let me know what you want to say.

Hi Basavaraj,

Really ur suggestions are really valuable

Keep Posting like this

Could you please suggest some investment plans which will give good returns plus it should cover income tax ?

Satya-Pleasure and thanks for your motivating words. With a mere two lines of the quarry I can’t suggest you the plan to invest. If you are really interested then you need to share some more data like your current investment, your risk appetite, future financial goals, your family background and other details then I can guide you. If you are uncomfortable to share these data on this platform then you can mail me personally.

Dear Basavarj,

I am planning to take JEEVAN SARAL policy for 15 years period.Monthly investing 2000/-. After 15 years this amount i am planning to use for my child education. Please suggest me how much i will receive after maturity date ? whether i have to go with this policy or suggest me suitable one for my child.

Siddalingappa-My strict recommendation for you is not go with this policy. Instead take a term plan of around 10-12 times of your income first and rest in the plans like PPF (if you are risk averse) else in a well diversified mutual fund. If you follow this simple step then you will earn more than that what you get from Jeevan Saral.

Dear ,

Thanks for you suggestion , Instead of Term plan any other plan can you suggest me in insurance which i can get back after maturity & I am not interested to invest in mutual fund . What about bank FD ?

Age – 30 years

Siddalingappa-In my view other than term plans are or a low yielding. So it is of no use for you. If you are so scary with mutual fund then go with PPF and balanced mutual funds. This will actually fulfill your insurance need as well as meeting the expenses of your kid’s future goals.

Dear ,

Thanks a lot..

Siddalingappa-Pleasure ๐

Sorry for mistake. My premium is Rs. 12010 yearly.

Hi,

I’ve taken Jeevan Sral Policy of Rs. 1010 yearly for 30 Years. When I took My age was 25. Please let me know how much will I know after maturity.

Kaustav-Your MSA will be Rs.4,47,630 (this is guaranteed) and considering the current LA trend you can expect LA of around Rs.7,83,352 (I considered LA of Rs.1,750 for 30 years of term for per Rs.1,000 MSA). So total you may expect of Rs.12,30,982. Return on investment will be 7.4%

Thanks Basavraj….

Niraj-Pleasure ๐

What in your opinion is the best plan of lic which can yield maximum returns

Niraj-Treat insurance as risk mitigating product rather than investment. Hence I will not recommend you any product of LIC which almost all are of low return for you but high return for your agent ๐

Hi,

Given below are my details

Please tell me how much amount i will get if i close this plan in 11th year

DOB : 23-10-1986

Policy Term : 35 years

Sum Assured: 500000

Premium : 12130 (Half Yearly)

Commenced Date : 4/5/2010

whether i will be benefited if i close this in 11th year?

Satya-Please look at above comments. Return from this plan are lower compared to PPF too. So better to come out of this plan and start a fresh goal based planning.

Thanks for your quick response ๐

but my agent told u will get good returns if we close in 11th year

2 more questions

I will pay nearly 133430 for 11 years How much I will get if i close this in 11th year ?

whether i will get more money than 133430 or not ?

When Can i come out of this plan to get some profit ?

Sorry not 133430/- its Rs 266860/- for 11 years

Satya-You will definitely get more than what you paid. But the problem part is how much you receive. The returns from such plans are so low that even they can’t beat inflation rate. So what is the use of continuing? Hence better first take term plans to cover your life then cancel this plan. Rest amount invests based on your goal.

Thanks for your valuable suggestions Basavaraj…………..

Satya-Pleasure ๐

Hi Basavaraj,

I had taken Jeevan saral policy in 2010. I am paying 18,195 Half yearly. At the time I took this policy I was 24 Years 11 month old.

Now I have taken a term insurance and want to surrender this policy. Can you give me an idea after 3 yr of premium payment, how much I can expect. I am not very much interested in completing 5 yr with this policy. but want to know if there will be some major difference if I withdraw after completion of 5 yr.

Thanks

Saurabh

Term is 16 Year

Saurabh-Yes the major difference in this plan is, if you continue to minimum for 5 years then it is treated as the policy with 5 years of the term and you get the full benefits as compared to 3 years completion. Hence better to continue till years and close it as soon as possible.

Hi.

My 3 yr term has completed and LIC has confirmed 61500/- as surrender value. Now if I pay for 2 more yrs (approx 72000) and complete 5 yr tenure, how much more I can expect. Point is after 2 more yr surrender value should must be more than 62000+72000+ interest I have to forgo for not surrendering this now. My crude calculation tells me if surrender value after 5 yr term is more than 1,50,000/- I shed continue. Do you feel I will get more than that.

Thanks

Saurabh-I don’t have idea regarding exact values of surrender after 5 years.But my advise will be to surrender after 5 years.

Hello Basavaraj,

I have taken two jeevan saral policies on 28/1/2011 (Age-38) paying premium of 60000 per year, policy term-25yrs

Policy 1: SA-700000, Premium- 8575 per quarter

Policy 2: SA-500000, Premium- 6125 per quarter.

after reviewing all your comments about Jeevan salar policy, i am really worried about the returns, please let me know your suggestions.

Regards,

Suresh

Suresh-Your concerns are real. Just look at the above comments and returns for all cases will hover around 8%. So better to complete it till 5 years and surrender the policy.

Dear Basavraj, My Age-20 Year’s. Pol Date- 27/03/2010 Premuim- 2000 Per month, Table-165 Term- 35 Year’s. Please Calculate Me, Complete Maturity After 35 Year’s.

Malay-Please look at the above comments, you come to know that from this policy return on investment will not be more than 8%. If you still need specific data then I will provide.

Hello Mr Basavaraj,

This was one of the most informative write up and more importantly i’m extremely impressed with the response you have given on each individual email.

I’m just in the verge of finisling Jeevan Saral purely from a investment point of view for my retirement. Thats when i saw your article. I would like to give my details as below

Age : 33 years

Policy consideration :Jeevan Saral

Premium : Rs 60,050 per year

Duration : 20 years

Returns as mentioned in the sample report is Rs 32,41,486 after 20 years (agent document)

Yeild : 8.73%

As per the LIC Agent “All the returns are guaranteed.

The loyal addition will start only after 11th year.which will add up to total 12% return on its maturity”

Can you please help me with

1. Whats is the Maturity Sum assured for the above

2. What will be the LA for the above details

3. Is the statement of 12% correct, and what is the best i can expect.

Thanks once again for your time

Regards

Praveen

Praveen Kumar-Ask your agent below questions.

1) Who is giving written is guaranteed? Any letter of showing the same from LIC of India, don’t even believe Branch Managers or Dovelopment Officers. Because they move at another place when you actually want to surrender or maturity. So ask your agent for the proof of 12% guarantee.

2) Use simple logic…in the amount what you pay your agent’s first year commission is 35%, second and third year he will earn 7.5% and from next year onward it is 5%. These are only agent’s commission. Apart from that there are few expenses like new business generation to Development Officer and maintenance charges. So after these charges whatever left out is invested. In such scenario, is it possible for them to generate even 8% return? These are the products which are more dangerous than ULIPs (where at least you know what are the expenses of product).

3) Use the simple method if you are not ready to take risk at all by investing in asset classes like equity mutual funds, take a term insurance to the tune of 10-12 times of your yearly income (I am not saying this to take from LIC, it is your wish to choose the insurer), rest invests in PPF which is a debt product with surety from Govt. If you do so, your insurance need also gets fulfilled and you get return more than such low yielding products.

If you still ready to go with such products then it is your wish brother ๐

Hi,

Can you suggest me a retirement plan. I’m currently 34 years. I have scanned to many website honestly very confusing….

Regards

Praveen

Praveen-There is no plan which we can say as best retirement plans. You can try with NPS or you can build your retirement corpus yourself by investing in a well diversified mutual fund. But to create your retirement corpus yourself you need to calculate how much you need and what is your life expectancy.

I dont have formula ,but it may be near to 5Lk, which you must surrender & invest in some other instrument like PPF.

Your agent earned 49000 Rs from your 3 premiums.If you are in Metro city, LIC has customer care in each zone , which will help you for surrender Value details.

Yes, You may be right.I have studied on it & found some intersting facts

LIC is giving commision to Agent which is 25% first yr , 7.5% on 2nd & 3rd , 5% from 4th yr onwards

Which makes agent rich not the policy holder .Better to away from such policies & aware the other friends & relativies.

I have decieded not to pay more premius & withdraw the amount paid for 5 yrs & invest it in MF & PPF.

Gajjan-That’s a great learning for all who wish to buy such low yielding products. Hope others to follow the same.

@Gajjan, how much would be the loss, if one exit the jeevan saral scheme after 5 years. Unfortunately, my annual premium is 140000! I had already paid for 3 years.

Pradeepkumar-Just contact your nearest branch for this issue. Because I don’t have data of LA or MSA for 5 year term of the policies. Hence if you visit branch they will let you know the exact figures. So sad to hear that you invested so much in this product.

Hello Basavaraj,

My premium is similar to Kranti, except age and term. Table = 165; Age=51; Term = 19; premium = 2000 + 42 (DAB) / month;

1) What should I expect if I surrender after 11 years?

2) Would I receive more if I shortened the Term to 11 years; will that change my premium? benefit?

Ajay-1)Please look at above comments. You notice that the returns are low which hover around 5%.

2) No infact if you reduce the term then your returns will also decrease but a premium will be constant in this plan.

HI Basav,

I had discussion with LIC customer care of the loyalti addtion decalred Rs 250 , which is for only those customer who have claims & not complted 10 yrs.As policy will complete 10 yrs in 2014 , LIC will declare different loyalti addition for that year & which will be more attractive.Is it true ?

Gajjan-Exactly…but that LA I am sure that will not be a huge difference.. it may hover around the same current declared values. If you want to test my presumption then wait till 2014 ๐

Dear Basavaraj

My dob is 23-Feb-1984, and JEEVAN SARAL Plan details are as follows:

Monthly premium=Rs.4000+ Accidental Benefit Rider,

TABLE=165, TERM=20 yrs,

Requesting you to please let me know the FINAL MATURITY VALUE @ the end of the tenure .

Thanks

Amitayu

Hi Basavaraj, Could please help me calculate the maturity sum assured for my Jeevan Saral Policy after 10 years: Details

Age at the time of taking policy: 36

Yearly Premium: 144000

Pradeepkumar-Considering your yearly premium as basic premium (except mortality charges and any discounts) MSA for 10 years will be Rs.12,92,760.

Dear Basavaraj, Thanks a lot for your prompt response. It looks like I am going to loss money after 10 years ( 12 x 144000 would be bigger than the MSA you calculated). I am not able to figure how you calculate this even after reading your post. Could you explain stepwise please. So far I have paid premium for 3 years. What would be the best way out exit this scheme?

Hi Basavraj,

Can u pls tell me MSA for my premium of Rs.24020 yearly, age 24. i need it to show it to my dad, he wants me to continue the policy.

Sayan Das-In your case for term of 20 years MSA will be Rs.5,57,520.

Thanks Basavraj. Actually, i forgot to mention that i need to know MSA for 5yr and 10yr. can u pls provide MSA for 5yr and 10yr ?

Sayan Das-Sorry I don’t have for 5 years of MSA ( I don’t have data may be no agent will this policy for term of 5 years ๐ ). But for 10 years of term MSA will be Rs.2,22,580.

HI

I have taken Jeevan saral policy in june 2012. that time my age was 27 .yearly premium 12010/- term 35 years.sum assured 250000.what will be my maturity amount.what amount i get if i close after completion 10 years..pls suggest me what is better.

Prabhat-From above comments you can easily presume the returns you can expect from this policy. If you stay invested for 35 years then your return on investment will be around 7-8% maximum and if you stay till 10 years then it will be around 4%. Hence my suggestion is to complete 5 years and come out of this product.

respected basavaraj sir i am openeing a new jeevan saral plan of 4083 monthly premium for 10 years.my present age 24 years.please tell me what will be my approximate MATURITY AMOUNT i might received after at the end of

10 years.

hello,

i actually dont understand all these at all, but i would just like to know how much will i get paid in the end of 15 years. my policy details are

policy jevan saral, iam 28 years of now, i Pay quaterly an amount of 30,635 Rs. where in 635 is accidental. i have to pay for 15 years.

if i am alive and do this successfully then how much will i get paid after 15 years,

Please guide me

DOB:09/05/85

Policy commencement:05/03/2013

Monthly premium:2999.50 + 62.50 Accident. benifit.

Table: 165. Term-35

Sir, kindly calculate

MSA?;LA?- That i would get after surrender in:10yr;20yr;25;30yr.

Pl. exp.how much Final Maturity Amt.with calculation.

Inderpal Singh-Please look at my above comments, they clearly suggest that return from this plan will be less than 8% then my serious suggestion is to discontinue this policy and think of goal based financial planning.

Dear Basavaraj,

DOB: 6-DEC-1976

Policy Date: 02-JULY-2008,

Monthly premium=Rs.2000+ Rs.42 as Accidental Benefit Rider,

TABLE=165, TERM=35 yrs,

MSA = Rs. 9,74,600/-.

Can you give me a calculation of LA in addition to the MSA that I would get in the following scenarios:

1. Surrender after 10 years

2. Surrender after 20 years

3. Complete the policy term of 35 years

Many thanks,

Nash

Nash-When you are taking this policy your age was 31 yrs and 6 months. So we need to consider as 32 years. So MSA for 10 year term will be Rs.2,19,580 and for 20 years it is Rs.5,40,240 and for 35 years policy it will be Rs.9,74,600. Please remember that your MSA will change as the term changes. Lower term will get lower MSA and at the same time higher term will be eligible for higher MSA. Now based on above MSA we can predict your LA as below.

1) Current LA for 10 years policy is Rs.250 so LA for 10 years policy will be Rs.54,895.

2) Considering the current difference between 10 and 11 years policy term LA we can predict for 20 years as Rs.1200 per Rs.1,000 MSA. In this case your total LA will be Rs.6,48,288.

3) Considering above trend, we may presume LA for 35 years of policies will be Rs.1,950. So total LA in case of 35 years of policies will be Rs.19,00470.

So from above predictions you notice that your return from this policy never cross even 8% also.

and wants money back after for 10- 11 years for child higher education. Please suggest what options are there?

Vijay-Please look at my above comment.

I have taken Jeevan saral in jan 2012. that time my age was 38 .what will be my maturity amount after 16 year.

I want to invest Rs. 30-36 thousand per year what will be best option as per my age

Vijay-Seems to me so much confusions from your comments. To calculate returns from your Jeevan Saral Plan I need your monthly premium. Now regarding investment options are based on your age+your financial goals+your current portfolio. Hence please do share all details and definitely I will help you.

Jeevan Saral Yearly premium 24020/-

Age = 40 years

financial goal : For child higher education

Portfolio : invested in jeevan saral and gold

Vijay-I am seriously of the view that first discontinue this policy and cover your life to the tune of 10-12 times of your yearly take home income. Second thing considering your goals, if those are of long term like 10 years from today then start to invest in equity mutual funds through SIP mode. It gives you good real return (inflation adjusted) and actually it even compensate your loss what you are making today by not continuing Jeevan Saral. If you are investing in gold for personal use then continue as your wish but investing thinking that gold will raise in future then please don’t invest. Stick your gold investment maximum to the tune of 10% of your portfolio that too not in physical mode.

In whatever way you calculate for Jeevan Saral, returns from this policy will be less than 8%. So don’t expect that all your financial needs are fulfilled with this single investment. Hope I answered your quarries.

Sir

Thanks for your advice. Please also suggest in which Mutual fund i should invest.

I have identified two

Birla Sun Life India GenNext Fund (G)

HDFC Top 200

Please suggest which one is better or advice some better options

Vijay-I hope you want to invest for long term of more than 10 years and monthly investment will be Rs.3,000 in such case below are my choice of funds.

1) Franklin India Bluechip Fund (G)-Large Cap

2) HDFC Top 200 Fund (G)-Large and mid cap

3) HDFC Prudence Fund (G)-Balanced equity.

Also, kindly let me know –

If I pay 15000/- premium quarterly(above details) age enrolled is 24 years for 25 years term in LIC Jeevan Saral Policy (Table – 165), then what will approxbe my?

1. Maturity Sum Assured

2. Basic Sum Assured

3. Return money after 10 Years

4. Return money after 15 Years

5. Return money after 20 Years

6. Return money after 25 years

Gayathri-For 25 years policy your return on investment is around 7.6% (as per calculation done in your case), so as the time period of policy come down your return will also come down. Hence you may consider as the highest return from this plan is 7.6% and lowest is around 4%. I am not sure why you need return money for all years as you done policy for 25 years and you started 3 years back, please let me know.

Hi I took Jeevan saral policy on 28/11/2010 at the age of 28 years for 25 years..I am paying Rs 29700 half yearly as instalment premimum for main plan+625(instalment accident benefit premium..so total premium i am paying is 30325 (half-yearly)…should i go ahead with the policy or terminate it and invest these extra 5000 for PPF(i am already having PPF of rs 5000 monthly)…the agent told me that i ll get somewhere around 45 lacs after 25 years…

can you please suggest that i am already having a PPF from past 8 years in which i am investing rs 5000 monthly.. would it be wiser if i increase that amount to rs 10000 monthly and terminate this policy..Regards

Suman-First thing you need to consider while terminating is, cover yourself to fullest by taking term insurance and have a plan ready to invest based on your financial goals. PPF is not solution to all your investment. Hence if you are already contributing around Rs.5,000 monthly then I will suggest you to look for other asset classes like equity, debt or gold (not more than 10% of your portfolio and that too not in the form of physical gold).

In my view terminating immediately and starting equity investment for long term perspective will actually compensate your loss from this policy also will fulfill your long term financial needs. Also without understanding your specific goals, giving advice is of no use. Hence sharing data with me will be helpful in guiding you. If you are not comfortable to share that in this public platform then you can mail me.

sir i taken this month Janeva saral policy for 20 years term, my yearly premium 12000/- so i will pay total premium 240000/- for 20 year , agent is telling i will get 800000 /- above its true but if i pay same premium amount in another policy i will get around 4 to 6 lack but this policy 8 lack its true.

i taken jeevan saral 20 year plan, how much maturity amount i will get after 20years

Mahesh-I can’t say like this. You need to share your age, premium amount you want to pay and the term of the plan.

Hi Basavaraj,

Thanks for your prompt response. Losing Rs.24k now seems logical but will be hard for me to digest the loss.

Can you please tell me how much Iโll get if I continue the policy for 10yrs and surrender at 11th year? (including MSA and LA)

Sayan-I know the hardship of loosing the hard earned money. But you need to think it as the penalty you are paying for believing your agent or not doing your homework before investing. Now paying for 10yrs and getting returns around 4% to 5% is worst scenario. Instead if you invest the same premium amount in PPF or Bank RDs then they will give you better return than this product also you may compensate the loss you incurred. I strongly recommend you to stop and invest the same amount in the product according to your comfort and easily you compensate the premium you paid against this product.

Hi,

I think i will stop the LIC now only and digest the loss. I calculated jeevan saral to ppf+term insurance and found the latter to be providing more returns and more life cover. I have already started investing Rs.2000 per month in PPF and Rs.1000 in ELSS. For insurance, I want to start a Term insurance plan (50 lacs, 30-35yrs).. pls provide me 2-3 good insurance company names who are reliable and have good claim settlement ratio.

Sayan Das-Wonderful decision ๐ You may consider HDFC, ICICI or Aviva based on your comfort and premium wise.

Hi Basavaraj,

i have one doubt. since i paid only one premium and got tax exemption last year, is there any clause that i cannot discontinue the policy for a no. of certain yrs? like i cannot terminate the policy without paying premiums for atleast 2yrs? i read this in an article –

“In order to ensure that the deductions claimed in respect of premium paid earlier is not withdrawn in any year; subsequently you are required to keep the life insurance policy alive for a certain number of years. In case of a single premium policy, you cannot terminate the policy within two years from the date of commencement of the Life insurance Policy. In case of any other life insurance policy, the tax benefits granted to you shall be added to your income subsequently if you do not pay the insurance premium for two years in respect of that policy.”

Hi Basavaraj,

Can you please provide clarification regarding my above comment?

Syan Das-If an insurance policy is terminated before three years, the tax benefits under Section 80C are reversed. But considering your are under highest tax bracket then too looking forward at long term perspective you can compensate it. So don’t worry about the one year tax exemption you got. You only done your work and said that term insurance+PPF will be greater than this plan. Instead if you take some calculated risk by investing this same amount to mutual funds then in long run you are absolutely on positive note.

Hi Basavraj, Thanks for ur valuable opinion. Last yr, i had declared Rs.24020 (LIC jeevan saral) under 80C. My taxable income was Rs.160000. that means without Lic jeevan saral, my taxable income would have ben under 2lacs. will my tax benefits from last yr still be reversed? how and who will charge me for tax benefit reversal – LIC or IT dept.?

Sayan Das-In that case you need not worry that much. You need to declare the reversal this year. Even if reversal happen then I don’t think it will affect you much as in my view you not fall under highest tax bracket as of now. So don’t worry just declare the reversal this year return time and close the policy.

Hi Basavraj,

Can you pls share how you calculate MSA based on age and term? if there is any excel sheet, can u pls mail me – [email protected]

Sayan Das-I have ready reckoner which normally LIC agents use. In that ready reckoner, we have readymade Basim Maturity Sum Assured which is Rs.100 per month basic premium and is based on insured person’s age and the term he or she opts. Based on that I will calculate. Preparing a excel sheet and once it is ready then will upload the same for the use of all LIC customers.

Hi Basavaraj,

I bought Jevan Saral policy on 15th Nov,2012 at the age of 24. I am paying Rs.24020 as yearly premium and policy term is 20yrs.

I have paid only one premium of Rs.24020. I realized now that I had made a big mistake my mixing investment with insurance.

I want to continue paying premiums till 5 yrs. Can you please tell me how much I’ll get if I surrender the policy after 5yrs? Will i get my invested amount of Rs.1,20,100 (24020*5yrs) back?

Sayan Das-You paid only one premium of Rs.24,020 means better to forget that amount and discontinue immediately. Because if you continue to pay for 5 yrs then you are loosing money than what you loose now. Hence better to discontinue immediately and look for term insurance first to cover your life risk.

I bought LIC Jeevan Saral policy on 28th jan 2010 at the age of 29. I am paying 12130/ as half yearly premium and policy term is 20.

I have completed the 3 year term in jan 2013 and want to surrender this policy now.Any idea if I surrender this policy now then how much approximately I will get.And also what’s your advise, should I go for 20 term or not? If yes then what will be the maturity amount?

Thanks in advance.

Nitish-Please surrender after 5 yrs of policy period. After 5 years surrender is treated as normal policy of 5 yrs tenure, hence you will get better return than surrendering at this time. It is waste till 20yrs period and take away the returns around 6% to 8%, which you can easily have it by FDs or PPF.

Hi Basavaraj, thanks for your prompt response. I am thinking to stop paying further premium and take out the money after completion 5 years. What’s your advise?

Nitish-Better to pay for another two years and surrender it. If you stop now then that special surrender feature will not be applicable to you. Hence pay it for two more years.

sir please calculate bonus and maturity amount for my jivan saral policy

age 22 quarterly premium 3062 period 10 years

how much i get on maturity and plz explain the calculation also

Ajay-Considering your data, MSA will be Rs.1,11,470. According to current LA which is Rs.250 for 10 yrs of term policy, LA you receive will be Rs.27,867. So total you receive on maturity is Rs.1,39,337. Return on investment is around 3% which is less than any liquid fund also. Now think and act ๐

so what to do sir i paid

2 premium nw i confused what to do bcoz in promotion paper agent show that it will return 219000/- (approx) and u said that just 139337

Great article. Could you give me a prediction on my Approximate returns for Jeevan Saral for both 30 & 35 year policies taken at the age of 24, with a monthly premium of 5400 before tax?

Thanks

Prakash-Thanks ๐ Returns will hover around 6%-8%. MSA for 30 yrs of policy will be Rs.24,26,760 and for 35 yrs Rs.28,48,014. Now LA I consider for 30 yrs policy will be around Rs.1,700 hence you will receive LA of Rs.41,25,492. So totally you receive for 30 years of policy is Rs.65,52,252. For 35 years of policy I will consider LA as around Rs.2,000. Hence total LA receivable will be Rs.56,96,028. Total receivable will be Rs.85,44,042. In both the cases return on investment will be less than 7% but more than 6%

Thank you so much.

Prakash-Pleasure ๐

Just to clarify for 35 year jeevan saral policy for 5000/month –

–> Total receivable in Table 165 shows as 1,83,55,508Rs

Is this not correct?

i thought returns will vary(~10%) due to market dynamics or LIC business profits but did not expect it will be 50% less than projected., please advice ..?

Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti,

My dob is 26-JAN-1983, and JEEVAN SARAL Plan details are as follows:

Policy Date: 15-OCT-2012,

Monthly premium=Rs.2000+ Rs.42 as Accidental Benefit Rider,

TABLE=165, TERM=35 yrs,

MSA = Rs.10,03,160/-.

Please let me know the FINAL MATURITY VALUE @ the end of the tenure & plz explain how you would be calculating ? Thanx ๐

Kranti-You did everthing and left out is LA part. I am calculating this based on LIC’s LA rate declared for 10 and 11 years term of policies which is Rs.250 and Rs.300. Expecting the same difference of Rs.50 for each year, we may assume LA in your case will be Rs.1950. So LA in my view will be Rs.19,56,162. So return on investment will be around 6%. Maximum we can expect is around 7-8% (if we consider higher values of LA). Hope you got how I am calculating.

Yes, Thanx for quick reply.

Well the value of LA which is coming out is Rs.19,56,162/- needs to be added to the promised LA of Rs.10,03,160/- ?? So that will be the Full & Final Maturity Value ?

Kranti-Exactly but please do remember that LA I calculated is assumptions from the current trend. Hence it may change. But not that extent that your returns will be more than 8% ๐

I braught a LIC Jeevan Saral Policy (Table 165) for 15 years, Qterly premium 15312. Policy sum assured value 12,50,000/-. Please let me know my total maturity value.

Kowsar-Please let me know your age when you took this policy.

Hi Basavaraj,

I was 29 yrs old when I took the policy.

Kowsar-Your Maturity Sum Assured (MSA) will be Rs.9,74,700 +LA Rs.9,74,700 (I considered Rs.1,000 as LA per Rs.1,000 MSA)=19,49,400. But i considered the exaggerated LA as difference between 10th and 11th year LA rates are Rs.250 and Rs.300. So I considered it will be Rs.1,000 per Rs.1,000 MSA.

Hi Basavaraj,

Thanx for quick response. Also tanking 4 giving the valuable info. According to ur info, the end of my policy i will get around minimum Rs.19,000,00/-.It;s a guaranteed or may less or high???

Hi,

You will surely get less amount. Based on bonus declaration for this policy, I am assuming that You will get 14 Lac only.

That was explained beautifully.

Request you to please help me with this sum; its from the IRDA paper

A proposal for SA of Rs. 10 lakhs with DAB for monthly mode under SSS. Proposer had a previous policy of Rs. 5 lakhs with DAB. Proposal was accepted with health extra of Rs. 2.75 per thousand SA premium for DAB Re 1 per thousand. 5% extra for monthly mode. large SA rebate of Rs 2/- per thousand for 1 lakh and above. Tabular premium Rs. 48.20 maximum total SA on which DAB is allowed is Rs. 10/- lakhs.

Find monthly (SSS) premium, rounded off to the next higher rupee

a 4102 b 4121 c 4183 d 4195

My answer comes to 4167, where am I making the mistake?

Sushil-Request you to send me mail the same question. I will try and reply. Because this platform is meant for resolving investors doubts.

sir, the same query. I bought Jeevan Saral policy total 8 policies on behalf on name of myself (4) and my wife (4) of rs. 255/- each in July, 2008, terms are 35 years. when i bought policy my age was 28 years & my wife age was 23 years. This year in July 2013 it was completed 5 years. i So how much amount MSA I will get if surrender policy right now (5 years) & if i surrender after 10 years?? please advice.

Vikram-I don’t have the data for 5 year policies. Hence better you contact your nearest LIC branch.

YES. once again an informative article. 1 query: LA is calculated on MSA, right now LA is declared for 10yr,11yr as 250, 300 respectively…so if a person has brought for more term then he will get 250*MAS/1000 + 300*MSA/1000 and the bonus will be credited ???

Kranti-Thanks for your comment. Yes as the term of policy increases LA rate will also increase.