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On 1st May 2017, EPFO announced the launch of the facility to withdraw EPF and EPS online. Let us see the procedure and conditions of online EPF withdrawal facility in detail.
As of now, it is a tedious task to apply for withdrawal. The process involved physical application to move from one authority to another authority. Usually, this whole process used to take around 30 days of time.
However, EPFO since long planning to do this facility. Now EPFO released the press note on the same.
You can complete the whole process online and you neither needs to interact with the employer and nor with EPFO field office to submit the online claim. The claim submitted by the you would flow in soft form to EPFO database where it will be processed and the member’s bank account credited.
You are not required to give any supporting document while preferring online EPF Part Withdrawal case. If you are applying online will be taken as his self-declaration for preferring the advance claim.
Who can withdraw EPF and EPS online?
There are certain conditions for utilizing this facility to withdraw EPF and EPS online. They are as below.
# You must have activated UAN Card.
# You must be linked Aadhaar with EPF (Refer the complete process of linking Aadhaar with EPF at “How to link Aadhaar to EPF using online and offline?“.
# You must be using the same mobile number which is linked with your Aadhaar. Because EPFO will send you OTP (One Time Password) for authenticating the claim process online.
# Your bank account along with IFSC code should be linked in EPFO database.
# Permanent Account Number (PAN) should also be linked in EPFO database for EPF Final settlement claims in case his/her service is less than 5 years.
If these two conditions are satisfied, then you can withdraw EPF and EPS online.
What types of EPF claims can be withdrawn online?
# You can withdraw your EPF amount online.
# You can withdraw your EPS (Employee’s Pension Scheme) amount online.
# You can use this online platform for partial or advance withdrawal of EPF.
How to withdraw EPF and EPS online?
Below are the steps involved of how to withdraw EPF and EPS online.
As of now, the information is limited. Hence, I will be sharing the information which is available at this time. I will update the same, once it is live on EPFO portal.
- Login to UAN portal.
- Check that KYC and service shown against your UAN are correct.
- Select which option of withdrawal you want to select like EPF Withdrawal, EPS Withdrawal or Partial or Advance EPF withdrawal.
- Once you submit the request, then for authentication purpose, OTP will be sent to your Aadhaar based registered mobile number.
- Authenticate the same by entering OTP.
- Then submit for withdrawal.
The process of withdraw EPF and EPS online is now available and the process is explained as below.
Step 1-Login to EPFO Unified Portal for Members.
Step 2–
Then on the homepage of Unified Portal, select the option “Online Services” tab. Here, you can withdraw EPF and EPS online and also can check the claim status online.
This is the whole process to withdraw EPF and EPS online. It is claimed that settlement will happen within few hours. Let hope for such great journey 🙂
Sir I’d applied for pf claim on 10 feb, today on 10 March I’ve received a massage that ” claim rejected member wages showing 15000 but eps not deducted. Plz clarify”
What is this issue? What is the solution for this.
Kindly suggest
Dear Dharmesh,
Hard to say. Better you raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Dear Dharmesh
If your pf wage is 15000 eps has to be deducted. From employers contribution 8.33% goes to pension or eps maximum 1250 and the remaining goes to p.f employer contribution.
If this is your first company they have to answer that.
If this is the second company what was the deduction like in first company.
This issue will take sometime to get sorted out because p.f. is clear regarding this issue.
Anything further do write.
Dear Dharmesh
It is mandatory to cut Eps when wages less than or equal to 15000
Sir,
I have applied for Online Pension on behalf of my father. The claim got rejected giving the reason “Claim Rejected EPS CONTRIBITION NOT RECIVED FROM THE ESTB FOR THE PERIOD SEP2015 TO JAN2016 PLEASE CLARIFY” How to proceed with this? As I donot have any option to reply for the same EPFO login. If it has to be done from company side do i need to apply fresh claim after company has given clarification?
Dear Sridhar,
Approach the employer to know why the contributions not done for the said period.
Sir,
It was due to medical reasons it was made LWP for this period.
Dear Shridhar
That’s correct what the Pf office has done.You have to request to correct your dad’s date of exit of pension and p.f.
That should be before lwp.Because as far as they are concerned exit date and contribution received should match.
Hi Sir,
I have worked in three companies (A, B, C) from May 2016 to June 2020. Now, I don’t work anywhere. I have three Member IDs and haven’t transferred my EPF amount from A and B companies to C company. Three companies come under EPFO offices in Delhi, Tamil Nadu and Agra while I stay in Maharashtra.
Now, I need your guidance for withdrawing the PF and pension amounts from these three companies.
1) can I withdraw PF and pension from all these three companies through online EPF portal?
2) Do I need to make separate applications on online EPF portal for withdrawing PF and pension from these three companies?
Please clarify my doubts. Thanks in advance.
Dear Sriram,
1) Yes, if all the EPF are under one UAN and KYC complied.
2) If different EPF accounts, then you have to apply differently.
My EPS service is not transferring automatically with online EPF transfer. When I checked and raised grievance for the same. But EPFO Bommasandra is asking for Member Ledger Card from my previous organization’s PF Office i.e. Gurgaon. And PF Gurgaon is not giving the member ledger card.
Why PF Bommasandra is asking for Member Ledger Card because they claiming that my PF wages are more than 15000 at the time of my joining. But my first organization PF wages (Basic + DA) are well less than 15000.
Tried to raise grievances with both the offices and raised RTI as well. But no use. For our amount we need to struggle this process is not employee friendly.
Any suggestions any one can give. Any one having escalation contact mail id of All the PF offices. Because both PF Gurgaon and PF Bommasandra are not resolving the issue.
Dear Dharma,
No option but to approach the regional EPFO.
Dear Dharma
Print your passbook from your old office and give a copy to Bommasandra which will be a clear indication that you are a pension member.
This way all doubts will be removed and your pension service will be transferred.
Hello Basavaraj Tonagatti,
I need your suggestion for the below mentioned query.
I have one UAN number and 2 member ID’s(from company A and company B). Transferred the PF from company A to B long back when I switched jobs. Currently, as I am not working anymore I had my EPF claimed and it got settled successfully. But while I checked my Pension which is still reflecting in my first company(company A and post checking online I got to know that during transfer of PF only PF gets transferred not the Pension amount and it stays back with the old company or Company A here.) Now my pension amount is reflecting in the old(or first)member ID(w,r,t company A) and please suggest me how to withdraw the pension. By the way, there is no pension contribution from Company B. Also I got to know that the pension can be withdrawn even if the service is less than 10 years and not working(without employment/job). Moroever when I try to claim the Form-10C, the service details section page(where we fill in out bank account number in the first page once we click on claim) it gives the second member ID(as I did the transfer from A to B) and as the second company B didn’t contribute to pension, my claim gets rejected.
Please advice.
Thanks.
Dear Sahi,
Using the physical form, you can withdraw the earlier EPS.
Heelo sir, thank you for sharing this. In other words, you mean to say that I have to submit physical form in person in the EPFO office ? Here, the composite form has anything to do with this ? Or just the Form 10C is enough ?
Thanks.
Dear Sashi,
Better to submit the Form 10C.
Respect Sir,
I have total service of 1 year 9 months yet i am unable to withdraw my pension amount. For the 5th time my claims got rejected. I don’t know why Epfo officers are not checking my service history. I have worked in 3 different companies. Claims are rejected for saying not eligible for withdrawal benefits service is less than 6 months. For pension amount Total services count. You can also check my service history
UAN(101370659634)
1.AXIS BANK LTD
Member ID – (Service 1 year 1 month) MHBAN00452390000138181
(Pension amount Rs 10304)
2.M/S.STERLING INFORMATION RESOURCES INDIA PVT.LTD.
Member ID – (Service 5 months 10 days ) THTHA02022260000113042 (Pension amount Rs 6157)
3.EUREKA OUTSOURCING SOLUTIONS PVT.LTD.
Member ID – (Service 2 months 24 days ) THTHA00982850000063737
(Pension amount Rs 1887)
Dear Tousif,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Dear Tousif
It looks like you have transferred your pf from 1 company to the next.But as u are aware pension service should get transferred but the reason is they make an entry in their books manual entry in form 9 which basically is the history in short for an employee and eventhough it shows in the computer it does not give updated status.I suggest if the pf office is close by u visit them and give details of your working.That is the only way to get your full money.
Or else it will be rejected because your last service is less than 6 months.
I unable to withdrawal of pension (FORM-10C) due to not updated DOJ EPS or DOE EPS to claim ONLINE CLAIM (FORM 31,19,10C & 10D).
How to update DOJ EPS or DOE EPS in online portal?
Dear Ramesh,
Better to take the help of your employer.
Thank you
Dear Ramesh
Please note the employer does not enter your doj of Eps.
When doj is entered when an employee joins that is considered as doj of epf and Eps.
Also employer does not enter doe of Eps .When an employee resigns his doe from epf is entered and that is considered as doe from Eps.
I have total of 12 years service (first service is 10.6 years and second service is 1.1 years). Currently, not employed.
I was suggested that form 10 C should be applied.
When I apply for same, I receive this error.
TOTAL SERVICE IS GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO 9.5 YEARS OR SERVICE LENGTH IS LESS THAN 6 MONTHS
What should be done?
Dear Chandra,
You can’t withdraw the EPS but you have to apply for Scheme Certificate.
Thanks Denzil Correa and Basavaraj Tonagatti for your advise,
Yesterday, I have asked company to update my DOL on EPF portal,
SERVICE DETAILS
MEMBER ID DOJ EPF DOJ EPS DOE EPF DOE EPS Reason Of Leaving
MHBANXXXXXX 04-JAN-2016 04-JAN-2016 23-SEP-2020 23-SEP-2020 CESSATION (SHORT SERVICE) – Any other reason.
Now I am able to see 3 options for PF withdrawals. Form -19 (only PF withdrawal), form-10C (only PF pension withdrawal, Form-31 (PF Advance withdrawal), means exit date is mandatory for terminated employees and has to avail only form – 19 complete PF withdrawals.
Not sure the reason for including advance PF amount for non-receipt of wages > 2 months in list,
obviously, if the company exit, then employee would have applied for some other reason. even if the employee is terminated or not getting salary for 2 months, it doesn’t mean that company must be closed. Parent company exist and he is not getting salary > 2 months, then portal must allowed for advance money, till he get’s the new job. else he can’t apply for advance. It has to be complete PF withdrawals. (not talking about age > 50 or for pension schemes). So, EPF portal advance reasons must be updated.
Thanks, I am going to applying for form -19 to withdraw complete amount and close my existing home loan.
Dear Ajay
You can update the exit date when u enter the system.There you are prompted with the last contribution of the employer.In that month only should be the last date which you enter twice The second to confirm.
You are not allowed to use form 31 only form 19.
Anything further pl message .
Hi Sir,
I have been working for 4.9 years in a MNC company and due to pandemic reasons, company started reducing work force. So, I was removed from services on Sep 23rd, 2020. Overall PF account is maintained for 12 years with EPF and PF passbook got updated saying, PF amount not received for past two months and 29 lakhs balance amount is showing from year 2008 onwards. Currently, I am not working and almost completed 3 months without any salary. So planning to take advance through form – 31, but online claim form – 31 was rejected with reason “NOT ELIGIBLE U/P 68H(1) AS ESTABLISHMENT IS LIVE”. means. I can’t take advance by using form – 31, incase current company is still exist or live. I have selected purpose of requesting advance as “non – receipt of wages > 2 months. (no other option available for me to select other than form – 31 advance. ) Means, form – 19 or 10c is not enabled for me, because my company not yet updated exit date on EPF portal. So is this exit date is mandatory for taking advance through form -31 or using form – 19 . If the company not updated exit date, then how will I get advance, even form – 19 can’t be used for final settlement, unless no exit date or I am decided not to work for future. (I don’t have any other reasons like illness, purchase house, .etc ? Could you please help me, how to get advance. (of-course, if I get new job, then I will raise online claim for money transfer from old company to new company member id).
Dear Ajay,
Using the Unified portal, you can enter the exit date and apply for withdrawal.
Dear Sir,
Myself James Joseph wish to withdraw my EPF & EPS for my previous company. But while going through the UAN portal we can’t make the both withdrawals together. I think need to do separately. In this case first I need to do EPF withdrawal & then again shall I need to place another claim for EPS also. Please help me.
Currently I have around 1,80,000 in EPF & 85,000 in EPS. So can I withdraw the full amount. Help me.
Dear James,
Yes, do separately.
I have joined organization on 26 Oct 1991 but I left the organization and withdrawal my PF but didn’t withdrawal my FPS. Then I rejoin the same organization in 06 Apr 1998 now my DOJ EPF is 06 Apr 1998 and DOJ FPS 26 Oct 1991 reflecting in PF portal.
I have applied for advanced PF withdrawal but same is rejected due to joining date not tallied as per KYC. Please suggest what I should do now.
Dear PK,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Dear Pk
Date of joining of fps will always be 26 Oct 1991 .What you should look is what is date of joining of Eps which should be 6th Apr 1998.
Why rejected is hard to say and dates i feel should not be an issue.
Regards
Denzil
Sir I am lajara pedru pinto my eps date of exit is not updated I informed our employer and also pf office but they are blaming each other what must I will do to these problem
Dear Lajara,
You can update the exit date on your own now.
Dear Lajara
Exit date of Eps comes automatically on entering epf exit date automatically the system will put the same date.
If you are over 58 when exiting epf then eps will be put by the system after calculating 58 years from date of birth.
How to claim my eps online as I am unable to do the same I received my pf amount but not received my eps amount as its not making me withdraw the same
Dear Sherry,
Better you approach the regional EPFO.
Dear Sherry
There can be only 2 reasons.
There is no contribution to EPS or you have worked over 10 years then you are not eligible to claim EPS .
Denzil
Hello Sir,
How can we see history of our employment prior to UAN? On EPF portal, I can see my service record starting 2015 only (when UAN was issued to me). Though I have done PF xfer from previous employer to current employer successfully, I am unable to see EPS related data for my service history (when UAN doesn’t used to exist) and hence unable to withdraw EPS contributed before UAN.
Dear Ankit Jain
Whatever your service was before Uan started you cannot see.If transfer is done successfully from one employer to the next your service details automatically get transferred to the new employer and the moment your total service is more than 9 years 6 months you cannot take out Eps and will have to claim reduced pension at 50 or normal pension at 58. From your side when you make the claim you should be aware of your total years of service .
Dear Ankit
When you do a successful transfer of p.f. your service details which is Eps gets transferred automatically to the new employer .This is not visible to you.
Regards
Denzil Correa
Dear Ankit,
No need to worry. If you transferred your earlier EPF to new one, then your EPS will also follow.
Left the job on May 20, 2020 and I have around 12 years PF Contribution.Now I would like to withdraw the amount but the interest is not credited yet in my PF account.
Could I get the interest of Last year along with this withdrawal or I have to wait for interest to be credited in my account,In such cases could I get the interest for such period. last year interest was credited on October 2019.
Can Apply for EPS withdrawal also
Dear Rajesh
You will get last year’s interest if this years interest is not credited to your company at the time of your claim.
Regarding Eps since you have worked more than 10 years you will get deferred pension at 50 or normal pension at 58.
Regards
Denzil
Hi Sir, I have not received interest component for 2 years in a row now.. I have written to the grievance cell a few times, but they only say that interest for previous years is yet to be settled. I’m now in a situation that I need to fully withdraw my PF balance. If I do so now will they credit my interest component before processing my withdrawal or will I lose that amount? Its a very substantial amount and I’ worried. Please advice
Dear Wasim,
They will credit and you no need to worry.
Thanks for your reply. Just so that I understand this clearly, did you mean that they will eventually credit interest and then after that I could withdraw OR they will process the interest dues along with my withdrawal request?
Dear Wasim,
No need to wait. You can request for withdrawal and they credit the interest.
Thank you so much for your guidance sir! I followed your advice and was able to successfully withdraw my PF. Really appreciate all your help.
Dear Wasim,
Great to know 🙂
Dear sir,
I have submitted a withdrawl claim request for EPS on 10-03-2020 with tracking id no.10074939818204002 but i am not getting my eps
UAN NO. – 100749398182
NAME – KANISH SHARMA
PAN NO. – DNDPS2206H
Sir,form where i get to know that when i ll get my claim.
Dear Kanish,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello Basavaraj,
My claim is rejected for following reason
´Your Claim [ Claim Id – GNGGN190750106876] has been rejected due to : 1) DOJ FOR PREVIOUS TRANSFER IN PF AND EPS DIFFERS, CLARIFY 2) CERTIFICATE ENCLOSED IS IMPROPER´.
Since my previous service history is not added in the UAN login (however amount from the previous PF is already transferred), I put DOJ as what is shown in UAN login (the date when I joined my current organization). Can you please tell me if I need to give DOJ as actual joining date of EPF (which is 16/08/2011 but not shown in UAN portal) or date of joining 15.10.2012 (shown in UAN where previous history is missing). OR do I need to file Grivence to get something corrected. Please advice.
Dear Vinod,
Better to raise an issue with EPFO.
Dear Basavaraj,
Thank for the info. I have couple of issues. I have been unemployed since 2016. The bank account which i have updated in the UAN is deactivated and since the branch is in Bangalore so it is a bit difficult for for me to travel just to activate the account number. Can i add another account which is active currently to withdraw my epf and eps.
Dear Bijay,
Yes, you can do so.
Dear Sir,
10+ years of contribution in EPF and I am unemployed since dec 2019 – My online PF claim(form 19) has rejected with below reason though exit reason CESSATION (SHORT SERVICE) has updated in EPF and it’s mentioned in online claim form. Could you please advice?
Rgds
Hi, My PF interest for FY18-19 has not been credited yet. The entire FY20 passed but have no interest entry in my passbook. Have written to EPFO a few times, but no response. What do you suggest I could do?
Dear Wasim,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Dear Amaan,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell online.
I have 7.5 month active history with eps from my last job i have claimed my share and employee share from epf but my claim for eps have been rejected several times, I have even raised request for funds transfer to my new establishment nothing looks great what to do with this
Dear Eswar,
If your EPS contribution is less than 6 months, then you are not allowed to withdraw.
Dear sir,
My claim for 10c has been rejected due below mention reason .has been rejected due to : 1) SUBMIT FORM-10-C WITH FORM-19 2) CERTIFICATE A/B/C/D/E/F NOT ENCLOSED / SIGNED.Now what to do ?????
Dear Suresh,
No option but to submit.
Hello Basavaraj Sir,
10+ years of contribution in EPF and I am unemployed since dec 2019 but online claim is rejected although DOE is correct at EPFO database. Could you please guide me here?
DATE OF EXIT NOT FURNISHED WHILE APPLYING THE CLAIM.. PLEASE FILL ALL THE FIELDS AND APPLY AGAIN 2) NOT ELIGIBLE FOR WITHDRAWAL BENEFIT
Dear Amaan,
I think it is an issue of exit date. Be in touch with your employer.
Thank you Basavaraj Sir
Dear Mr Basu,
When we withdraw EPS amount, we get some % of it. How to claim the remaining amount?
Dear Shalmali,
Sadly you can’t.
Sir, I left my job in March 2017 fater more than 5 years service. I had my PF in two accounts ( previous company and current company). I was told it has to be consolidated into latest PF account and i have successfully done it online. Now i applied for online withdrawal through the portal. It got rejected with the following comments “1) CONTRIBUTION RECEIVED AFTER DATE OF LEAVING CLARIFY 2) CERTIFICATE ENCLOSED IS IMPROPER”
I have only uploaded bank cheque leaf details. is it because i have not uploaded form 15G. Please clarify.
Dear Stanly,
I think it is an issue with date of exit. Check with local EPFO.
Hi sir ,
I recently joined a new company in may 2019 and I did an online epf transfer which got rejected and the reason is as mentioned below :
Your Claim [ Claim Id – ***] has been rejected due to : 1) WAGES LESS THAN RS.15000/-ELIGIBLE FOR PENSION MEMBERSHIP BUT ESTT NOT REMITTED PENSION CONTRIBUTION 2) CERTIFICATE A/B/C/D/E/F NOT ENCLOSED / SIGNED.
Kindly let me know what can be done .
Thank you
Dear Swathy,
Check properly the reasons they quoted.
I worked in an organisation for 8 years and 7 months. Recently my employer had updated my EPF DOE in epfo portal. But my EPS DOJ and EPS DOE is not filled. And there is no way for me to update it online. I am not working anymore in India and I want to withdraw EPS amount. So how can I update y EPS DOJ, DOE?
Dear Siddhesh,
Update of dates at EPF level is enough.
Sir I have been working in company A from 25-8-2017 to 31-12-2018. I started working in another company B from 1-1-2019 to 27-9-2019. I transfered my previous company EPF to the present company B. Only the PF amount got transferred and EPS did not get transferred. Now I made a claim of Form 10 C and Form 19. I got the amount settled i.e PF and EPS of my current company B. I have not received the EPS amount of my previous company A. What should I do?
Dear Justin,
Check properly, When you transfer EPF, EPS will also transfer. If you have doubts, then raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Sir,
EPS amount is not transferred, while transferring the account from previous establishment to the new establishment. Kindly tell us the procedure to get the prev. establishment’s EPS amount as it is showing in the prev. establishment passbook.
Dear Mohd,
EPS will never get transferred. EPFO just update your service record in EPS.
Hi BASAVARAJ,
Then where my EPS money.Is it wasted?
Dear Satyam,
It is not wasted. If you have doubts, then raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Dear Sir, In my PF account pass book, employee contribution & employer contribution are showing settled,but EPS/pension contribution is still showing some amount figure.During my PF withdrawal time I applied only for PF withdraw (from 19).Now, when i am going to withdraw my EPS amount on line(from 10 C), the following message is coming “TOTAL SERVICE IS GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO 9.5 YEAR OR SERVICE LENGTH IS LESS THAN 6 MONTHS.Why this message is coming,while filling online withdrawal EPS? Can you please explain/elaborate/clarify this?
Dear Kedar,
It is hard to predict. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
O.K. Thank you.I have already raised this issue to EPFO Grievance Cell today (30.11.2019) morning & my grievance has already been registered. Thanks a lot once again for your valuable reply.
Dear Kedar,
Pleasure.
Dear Sir, I was joined in my previous company on 01.12.2015 & leave this organisation on 24.05.2019.I have already withdraw my whole PF amount online.Now, I want to withdraw my EPS amount on line.When I am filling 10C form online, the following message is coming “TOTAL SERVICE IS GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO 9.5 YEAR OR SERVICE LENGTH IS LESS THAN 6 MONTHS.”As per EPFO record,my service period is 3.5 years. Why this message is comming,while filling online withdrawal EPS? Can you please explain/elaborate/clarify this?
Dear Kedar,
I think you have withdrawn the EPS. Cross-check once again or raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello Sir,
I had left my previous company few years back, I had withdrawn the EPS amount then, but I didnt get the EPS amount because I was unaware. Now in my current company I have a new pf account and have generated UAN for the current account. Now I want to withdraw my previous EPS amount, how shall I do that ?
Dear Subho,
Check your facts. As per me, I think you withdrew EPS also.
Hi SIr,
I am switching from one company to 2nd company my service of job is 8.5 Year, I want to withdraw my PF amount in place of Transfer. Can I withdraw amount and what is process.
Dear Manoj,
Yes, you can. Use online platform to withdraw (If you have UAN and KYC complied). But I suggest to hold and continue.
Do I need to summit Form 15G to withdraw PF below Rs.20k ?
Der Ben,
Refer my post “EPF Form 15G – How to fill online for EPF withdrawal?“.
I am not getting the option to withdraw all amount including EPS. It only let me withdraw my share.
Dear Avijit,
I am not sure what is an issue. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
hi sir i have applied for eps withdrawl online but it got rejected and reason was Your Claim [ Claim Id – THTHA191050000042 ] has been rejected due to : 1) P F FORM NOT SUB 2) CERTIFICATE A/B/C/D/E/F NOT ENCLOSED / SIGNED
can u please let me know what does it mean
Dear Priyanka,
Hard to predict. Better you raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi
As per my current employer I’m not the member of pension scheme EPS because I have mistakenly mentioned it in form 9 during joining.
Now they are saying to check with previous organization regarding EPS withdrawal or EPS certificate. Current employer can transfer only PF not EPS. Employment history is 6 year 6 months
Dear Param,
Sadly they are misguiding you. If you are a member of EPF, then by default you are also part of EPS.
I have submitted the online claim for EPS. But its been more than 5 days, till now it is not been sent to the field office.
Dear Beryl,
You have to wait.
Dear sir,
I want to withdraw my EPS. But in claim form it is showing only current employer detail.
Dear Pankaj,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
how to update DATE OF LEAVING EPS OR DATE OF JOINING EPS online on EPF
Dear Dadapatil,
It is updated by employer but not by the employee.
i m try online to fill FORM 10C but i have see masg DATE OF LEAVING EPS OR DATE OF JOINING EPS IS NOT AVAILABLE
how to resolve this or how to update said dates
Dear Dadapatil,
It is the date, which your employer has to update but not YOU.
Hi Sir,
I have a query regarding TDS deduction. I have experience of more than 5 years holding PF account, I am unable to verify pan. Is PAN verification and Form 15G mandatory for online PF claim?
Dear Gayathri,
If PAN is not verified, then yes they deduct the TDS.
Hi sir I widrawal the pf amount from last company is there my EPs amount remaining…or not ..
Dear Sameer,
It may be. Please check with EPFO.
Hello sir
I left my job on dec 2018 with 3 year exp complete and did not join any else further,
And post 2 months of leaving i applied for form 9 and 10c.
Following 15 days i got the amount (“96k” as salry was 18k pm).
Now when i open my epfo online portal i saw a pdf which shows employee share+ employer share
Both r withdrawn, last column of pension contribution is still showing few amount of 35k approx,
As my service is less than 10 yr can i withdraw that amount?
If yes please explain process.
Thanks in advance
Dear Kaustubh,
Yes, you can withdraw it. Follow the process like how you did while withdrawing the EPF.
sir i have also same proble can i withdraw my pensoin with is 15000 around..if yes then how…??
Hi Sir,
i left my company 31st Aug 2014, i was not aware EPS may withdraw my EPS now. I transferred my account new company.
Dear DR,
In that case, your EPS also followed your EPF.
Hi Sir,
Hope ur doing great!!I’ve received final settlement for EPS contribution by Filing Form 10C online.I’ve some queries regarding calculation.Here is my service details
DOJ EPS DOE EPS
1 Company A 23/05/2013 17/02/2015
2 Company B 13/05/2015 24/11/2017
3 Company C 11/12/2017 25/03/2019
I’ve transferred PF from A to B then B to C as well(And I hope EPS has been transferred with Service history).Final PF settlement has been done through Company C. Now at the time I’ve filled form 10c that time my basic salary was 25000. The approx. EPS contribution during these 5 yrs 10 months is more than 50000. However finally I’ve got 15300 as EPS final settlement. is there any discrepancy in calculation or I got the correct amount? If any discrepancy in calculation pls guide me how i can recover the rest amount. Pls clarify my doubt. Thnx in advance.
Dear Jalaluddin,
As your service is less than 10 years, you will not receive the full EPS but only part.
Thnx Sir. It means calculation is correct, 15300 out of 50000?? Then I don’t need to raise any grievance???
Dear Jalaluddin,
Yes, it is correct.
Thank you so much, Sir
Dear Sir,
My DOJ EPS is not updated by the Employer and already claimed online PF final settlement with Form 19.
But due to DOJ EPS is not updated We have not cliamed EPS form 10C.
Is It Claimed offline.
Regards
Santosh
Dear Santosh,
You have to first make sure that the DOJ be updated.
Also Sir, I see that Interest is not updated in the EPF passbook for me for this year (March-2019) and for last 2 years for my wife (March2018 and March 2019).
1. Are these missed out by EPFO?
2. What should i do to get this updated in the EPFO passbook?
Dear Sandeep,
Better you raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello sir,
My father retired in 2015 and since then we have been receiving monthly pension, with lot of delays and hitches. The company he worked for is on the verge of shutting down and it is not co-operative at all unfortunately towards retired employees.
1) What is the purpose of Form 10C ?
2) Is there a way to withdraw full remaining pension in lump sum, rather than getting monthly pension ???
3) If there is a possibility, could you kindly tell us how to go about it…..
Will it involve the communications with the Employer as well ?
Dear Schandra,
1) Form 10C can be used to withdraw EPS if your service history is less than 10 years.
2) NO.
3) Already replied.
Hello,
I want to fully withdraw EPF and EPS, my company has stopped submitting my EPf and EPS since 4 months.
I have verified aadhar and bank details online, but not able to update PAN. my PF contribution is 4 years and 8 months.
Can i withdraw all amount online? Is there any deduction from amount?
Dear Parul,
First try to link your PAN to EPF by visiting personally to the regional EPFO. Then you can apply for online withdrawal.
Hello,
I have visited EPFO, they told me that there is a issue on site for PAN link up, I can fill form 15G and claim.
Dear Parul,
Then do as they suggested.
Hello Sir,
Can anyone withdraw all amount before 5 years of contribution? If person has joined another company and new company is not deducting PF.
Dear Mahi,
Yes.
Hi Basavaraj,
Morning!
I am totally confused with EPS and EPF, though I have got some understanding on both and their criteria, I have a few doubts and hopefully you will answer them.
I have worked for 6.5 years in my previous organisation and I withdrew my PF before quitting by claiming it online on UAN portal.
Its been 6 months that I have joined a new organisation and I got to know about EPS, until which I had no clue that EPS existed also. My questions are:
1. Since EPF and EPO contributions are separate, will the claims to be made towards each are separate? As informed above, I have withdrawn PF while I was in previous org so does this mean I have got only the PF share and not the EPS amount?
2. In the above case ( point 1) how can I withdraw my EPS? and how do I check my EPS balance ?
3. In case I withdraw my EPS by not opting for scheme certificate, what happens after withdrawal? will my service gets reset and starts from 1st year since i lose the existing years of service due to EPS withdrawal? will the EPS still gets contributed by employer post withdrawal?
Note: I started working since july 2010
Dear Tejaswini,
1) Yes, they are separate and you have to claim them separately.
2) You have to apply for EPS separately. Regarding the balance, you can check it in the passbook.
3) If you withdraw EPS, your new EPS (which is attached with new EPF) will show the service history freshly without adding the past history of your old EPS.
Basavaraj,
Thanks a mill for the reply, May I please ask my last few questions……
1. In umang app, for my previous PF account it is showing the details as below
employee share : 6380
employer share: 51116
pension contribution : 72080
since i had withdrawn PF already, under withdrawal section it is showing :
claim against PARA 68B(1) (C)
employee share : 166000
employer share : 34000
Q1: so can you please clarify what is my EPS balance as per details above? does it mean I have a total balance of 129576 ( sum of all 3 above ) or is it just 72080 ?
Q2: I tried to claim EPS using online services tab on UAN portal but it is showing me the current PF account in the drop down and I cannot select or enter the old PF account number ( as my balance is in old PF account ). Also, I do not find an option for Form 10 c to claim and i assume that is because my current PF account is selected by default.
Q3: How will i be able to withdraw my EPS and remaining PF balance from old account if the portal is not giving me an option to select old account.
I started working from July 2010 so am I eligible to withdraw EPS?
Dear Tejaswini,
1) It is Rs.72,080.
2) and 3) Better you submit offline by visiting the concerned EPFO.
Hello Sir,
1) i can’t submitted my PAN for KYC in UAN Login.
2) i have worked 4 years and now i want to withdraw my pf then i got “As your service is less than five years and your verified PAN details are not available under Unified Portal, Income Tax at the highest slab of 34.6% is liable to be deducted if your settlement amount crosses Rs.50,000/-. You are advised to update your PAN details before filing for Online claim and also check your balance before proceeding to submit PF settlement Claim.”
3) i personally submitted my PAN & 15G to PF Office on Thursday and they told you can claim within 3 days.
Now i am trying to claim online then i got same warning of my point (2)… also trying to call but no one receive any call from yesterday….. what should i do?
Dear Rilesh,
It seems the data is not yet updated. Hence, better you have to wait.
I have applied for my PF withdrawal online. But it got rejected and the remarks given were ” WAGES LESS THAN RS.15000/-ELIGIBLE FOR PENSION MEMBERSHIP BUT ESTT NOT REMITTED PENSION CONTRIBUTION/OK ” .
Can you please help me understand what does that actually mean ??
Dear Ashish,
I think it is an issue with your employer. Check with them.
Halo Sir,
I worked for an organisation from Nov 2009 to Oct 2018 (8 Years 11 months). I want to claim (withdraw) both EPF ans EPS amount.
While trying to do it online, after verifying my bank details it is giving me only 2 options in drop down i.e.a) Only PF withdrawal and
b)Only pension withdrawal, composite (both PF and EPS) option is not available in drop down.
My KYC is completed. Please assist on how to go for claim ?
Dear Kalpana,
I am not sure the issue. In that case, try to withdraw separately.
Hi sir,
I had applied for PF transfer from previous employer to present employer through online and as well submitted form 13, pf office has rejected my pf transfer request.
They say that, after 2014 who has a new pf account are not EPS member, hence they are not eligible for person scheme.
Where at previous employer I joined in year 2015 and this my only one and new PF a/c .They have showed the contribution under both employer and Pension scheme as their practice.
Now PF Office are instucting that they have to reverse the contribution made for pension scheme to employer and which has to be shown as equal to the contribution made by employee.
They say it is possible for employer to reverse this and employer will have to send a letter to PF office to do the changes after reversing as said.
After then PF office will do the necessary changes and do the pf transfer.
1, Is it true, my previous employer would have not contributed to pension scheme?
2, My present employer also contributed to pension scheme, do I needs to inform my present employer to reverse the contribution made under pension scheme?
3. How I take the way forward, please advise.
I have been running around with PF Office since last October 2018, I request you to please please help me in this and do the needful.
Dear Manoj,
I am unable to understand your difficulty. Better you raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Thanks for these details, I am trying to get my Pf and EPS withdraw. I have submitted “I want to claim my PF ONLY” Option.
Now it is not letting me select theothe option “I want to claim my EPS”.
It is showing error, you have one request pending.
Shall i wait for PF amount to be clear first, then raise it for EPS? Because it is not showing any composit option.
Also, it is not showing any options for saving on tax.
Pls guide.
Dear Rajinder,
If your service is less than 6 months or more than 10 years, then you are not allowed to withdraw EPS.
hi sir,
your article is very informative, thanks a lot for sharing it:)
I have a query regarding EPS, cant i withdraw money if i want now? the Portal says – TOTAL SERVICE IS GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO 9.5 YEAR OR SERVICE LENGTH IS LESS THAN 6 MONTHS.
Can you pls help me on this?
Dear Raj,
If your service is less than 6 months or more than 9.5 Yrs, then you are not allowed to withdraw.
Hello sir,
I worked in a company from 24/10/2016 – 23/08/2018.
Submitted form FORM-13 on 7th June 2018 . Claim settled.
Now I resigned from my job and submitted FORM-19 on 4th January 2019 .
Claim settled.
But still my pension amount is unavailable for withdrawal. I tried submitting Form-10C. But after I select it . It shows
” Date of EXIT EPS OR DATE OF JOINING EPS IS NOT AVAILABLE” .
Date of joining is 24-1016 and date of leaving is
23-08-2018 which is visible on my EPFO portal along with my other data like mob number, UAN ,name, PAN. ETC.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT CAN BE done to withdraw my whole pension amount.
Thank you
Dear Tushar,
Hard to point of what went wrong. Hence, better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Tushar no worries, all you need is to contact your last employer and tell them to update your DOJ & DOE date for EPS accordingly in the PF account, that’s it. I just contacted my previous employer today and request them to update DOE for my EPF & EPS which they did immediately and i was able to apply for withdrawal right away.
Hello Basavaraj,
I have completed 10 years service and also few months back I have withdrawn my EPF online. I have completed 10 years from 03 Employers. As I gone through your detailed EPS article I understands now I need to apply for Scheme Certificate from Employer by Submitting Form 10 C. My questions are below
1. Can I submit request online to get Scheme Certificate or only it can be done through Manually submitting updated Form 10 C to PF Office
2. I have 03 former employers and I am not working for any employer at present. Do I need to get scheme certificate for all 03 employers ?
3. I see Rs 1,02,239 accumulated in my EPS account from 03 employers. Will I get this amount back after I reach to age 50 ? or I will get pension based on last employer EPS deducted amount. My last employer has contributed Rs 1,250 to EPS account which I am seeing in EPF Passbook though I am not sure
4. After I get scheme certificate what is the next step? Do I need to wait till 50 years ? or I can submit Scheme certificates to PF office once I get all
Kindly let me know
Thanks
Dinkar
Dear Dinkar,
1) You can do it either online or offline.
2) NO.
3) You will get pension but not lump sum amount.
4) Yes, you have to wait till retirement age.
Thank you basavaraj
I don’t see any option to get Scheme Certificate on EPFO site. Is pension withdrawal and Scheme Certificate both are same? I heard like as I have completed service more than 9.5 years I cannot withdraw my pension and need to apply only for Scheme Certificate. Kindly share me link to get Scheme Certificate
Dinkar
Dear Dinkar,
Yes, it is true that you can apply for EPS Scheme Certificate. If you are unable to find it online, then apply by visiting the regional EPFO.
Hello Basu,
I have epf with exempted trust. The EPS is with EPFO. My employer gives me a statement for EPF. At the bottom of the statement, there is a single note mentioning that Rs. XXXX will be credited to EPS scheme help with regional EPF commissioner office. There is not dedicated column or even summary of EPS amount credited so far.
1) Is there any way I can really cross-check that the EPS is actually credited per month. Can I approach the EPFO (using UAN number ) for the statement of EPS OR the trust is supposed to give me some proof of
2) Also – Do people having EPF with trust get an EPS account number? (Just like EPF number)
Dear Logik,
1) If your employer is not providing those details, then definitely you can approach the regional EPFO for the same.
2) There is no such EPS number, as it is linked to EPF.
Sir,
I have following Queries-
1) can UAN number be generated for Old In-operative Account for year 2007-2008 ?
2) How can I get Date of Joining and Date of Leaving details if my Ex-employer is lost.
3)If I Physically Visit Regional EPFO , The process of My Name correction if required may resolve in one day?
4) How can I follow up for above process and check the progress..
Dear Sameer,
1) Why the need now?
2) It is hard to get it as it is employer who has to enter.
3) Hard to say.
1)with the help of UAN , the management of account will be easy to me..thats why i asked for help,,thnx
Dear sir i left the job 2 months back .. my employer didnt apdated DOE in UAN so i selected form 31 in online portal and applied for pf… now what will happen??/
Dear Pradeep,
As per me, DOE is important. However, let us wait.
Hi Basavaraj,
My EPF amount credited but not the EPS amount.
The company which I worked for is an Expempted.
I applied for full PF withdrawl by filling the composite claim form.
I am unsure whether my eps amount will be credited or not?
Please suggest me what need to be done next and whom to approach for the withdrawl of remaining EPS amount.
Dear Sudhir,
Wait for few days. If you not receive the EPS, then raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi Basvaraj,
I have recently quit my job and joined another company. I want to withdraw EPF and EPS from my previous organisation. I have quit my job after 4 years of service and my total experience is 7 years
From the UAN portal I am only getting option of withdrawal of EPF. I am not getting option of withdrawal of EPS.
Should I submit the request for the withdrawal of total amount EPF+EPS in one request only i.e. EPF withdrawal? If that is not the case where I can claim my EPS amount from my previous organisation?
Dear Chitrank,
Using composite claim form you can withdraw the both.
Dear Sir, Recently I had applied for for both 19 and 10C. I had completed
12 months service. The EPF claim got through and i received the money too. But EPFO (Bommasandra,B’lore) has rejected the 10C claim quoting the reason “WAGES ABOVE 15000, BUT PENSION ALSO CONTRIBUTED”. As usual nobody at PF office, Bommasandra answer the calls in any of the enquiry numbers provided in the website.
Request your help as to how to resolve this rejection.
Dear Vasuki,
Why not visit personally?
Dear Sir,
Am planning to visit.
But, basically wanted to know, from your experience,
why in the first place this kind of rejection of the claim.
Once i visit , will keep you updated.
Dear Vasuki,
It is hard to predict EPFO.
Dear Sir, My father Applied for Form-10D settlement for monthly pension after complition of his 58 years jobs. Now status shows on epfo protal is claim settled but pension amount not credited yet in account. Could you please help to understand the how long pension will take to get credited in account.
Dear Abhishek,
Better to contact the regional EPFO to understand the reason behind this.
Hi Basavaraj, How to update my adhar no. and verify my pan card online on epf portal…pls help
Dear Mahesh,
Refer my posts “How to link Aadhaar to EPF Online without login?“, “How to link Aadhaar to EPF using online and offline?“. Regarding linking PAN to EPF, you have to do the same through your employer.
Hello Sir,
My EPS claim has been rejected for beolow given reason….
“Claim-Form-10C (EPS Withdrawal/SC)(Withdrawal Benefit / Scheme Certificate)
Claim id-PUPUN180950021488 Member id-PUPUN00176800000017546 has been rejected due to :- SERVICE LESS THAN 6 MONTHS./OK”.
My service details are as below….
1) Company 1: DOJ 01/4/2015 DOE 9/1/2018
2) Company 2: DOJ 25/6/2018 DOE 11/7/2018
can you pls explain the reason for claim rejection..
Regards
Sachin V Bhoinallu
Dear Sachin,
You are not eligible to withdraw EPS as your service period is less than 6 months.
But they would be calculating my both the services or not?
Dear Sachin,
I don’t think so.
But then what about my old EPS amount, if I am not planning to do service henceforth, pls suggest a way out.
Dear Sachin,
You have to transfer and then try to withdraw.
Dear Basavaraj,
All my EPS amount is seen on my previous company’s account,how to transfer it and where to transfer it pls guide.
Dear Sachin,
You have to request for transfer. Contact your current employer for the same.
Dear Basavaraj,
I have applied for my epf and eps claim offline by submitting the composite form duly signed by my previous employer.
also I had submitted form 15G along with copy of my PAN card. But after submission I observed that the middle name on my pan card is shortform and in aadhar card it is full name.(ie. V in pan and Vasant in Aadhar).
What will happen to my application..
Hi Sir,
I have claimed my pf withdrawal and got it rejected. The reason is shown as below:
PLEASE RESUBMIT THE CLAIM AFTER UPDATION OF ECR AFTER CONFIRMATION PENSION CONTRIBUTION./OK
Can you please tell me what should i do , to correct this.
Dear Ashish,
Better you be in touch with your employer.
I have completed all the documentation work along with employer on the portal. every thing filled up in withdrawal form and accepted the terms. after pressing the “get aadhar OTP” icon, it is saying ‘Invalid authenticator code’
Please help here as I am in emergency !!!
Thanks…
Dear Nishant,
This may be some portal issue. Try after some time or use other browser.
Hi i have tried in different browsers and the result is still same.
any idea how to resolve this
Dear Prakash,
No option but to knock the EPF support by calling them.
Hi Sir,
I have claimed my pf withdrawal and got it rejected. The reason is shown as below:
MEMBER KINDLY REQUESTED TO UPLOAD THIS CLAIM AFTER 15DAYS DUE TO SOME TECHNICAL ERROR HAD OCCURRED/OK
This is the second time I have got this error. Please advise what to be done on this.
Hello Sir,
I exited my job after working for 11 years in 2016,and have now placed request for claiming of full PF withdrawal with form 19 online,just want to ask whether I would get the EPS certificate along with it or have to do some other process ,as the portal is not allowing me to submit for scheme certificate
Dear Yogesh,
For scheme certificate, you have to approach either employer or EPFO.
dear sir,
kya main apna employee, employer or pension amount ye 3no amount ek saath online claim kar k nikaal sakta hu, uska process bta dijiye sir.
Dear Ashok,
The process is already explained in above post.
Dear Basu,
I have worked in 2 companies. Can you please tell me what is the procedure to submit for EPS Withdrawal ? Should I submit form 10 to my last organisation or to my 1st organisation ?
Thanks
Triparna
Dear Triparna,
You have to submit it to your last organization. However, if you are currently working, then you are not allowed to withdraw it.
Dear Basu,
There is a bit of confusion with my PF and EPS withdrawal because my 1st company had the money in 3 trusts, and the 2nd company had just 1 pf account.
When I quit my 2nd company, I received the
total PF amount . But I don’t know about the EPS. I can’t see how much is my EPS balance online. This is why when I wrote an email to the 1st company, they asked me to submit form 10.
Dear Tripana,
If your earlier EPF was managed by trusts, then it will not reflect online. You have to contact the earlier EPS.
Dear Basu,
Ok so if I understand it right, because my 1st company has trusts I cannot withdraw the complete EPS from 2nd company. I should apply for EPS withdrawal separately to both companies ?
To withdraw earlier EPS I should send form 10 to my 1st company ?
And, to withdraw 2nd EPS I should contact the 2nd company ?
Dear Triparna,
YES.
Dear sir,
I have the same problem. First company maintained money in trusts but 2nd company had 1 PF account. My question is, in this scenario, should I submit for EPS withdrawal separately to 2 companies ? or as you mentioned I should still submit form 10 to the 2nd company ?
Dear Sudeep,
Better to submit separately.
Dear sir,
I worked with Yes bank i left a bank on 31-mar-2018 all kyc updated exit date also updated. now i join another company with same uan. now i am unable to calim for my yes bank pf. whenever i am trying its showing current company advance PF claim option. how can i get my yes bank pf amount
Dear Kush,
As your currently under job and using the same UAN, you are allowed to advance but not withdraw.
Dear sir,
so can i withdraw all amount of yes bank pf??
Dear Kush,
Refer my reply once again.
Hi Basavaraj,
How can I advance my EPS amount. I am also using the same UAN as my last job. Please help me if possible.
Dear Sindhu,
Sadly NO.
hi, I worked in an organization for 6.5 years and it has an exempted trust. After that I worked in an organization for 3 months and left the job. I haven’t transferred my EPF to the 2nd organization. If I withdraw my EPF now, from the 1st organization, will I get my EPS amount also? If yes, how will it be calculated
Dear Latha,
Yes, you can withdraw your first EPF and EPS. The amount of EPS will be based on the Table D of EPS.
Hello,
Do I need to get my DOE updated from all my previous employers or just from the last one as I am currently not employed for more than 2 months.
Regards,
Vikas
Dear Vikas,
It is from all past employers.
Hi,
When I am applying for pension withdrawal an error pops up “Claim Is Not Submitted on portal,Please try again later”
I get the error after submitting OTP.
Kindly let me know the reason for the error.
Regards,
Vikas
Dear Vikas,
It is a typical portal error. Try to be in touch with EPFO.
Hello Sir,
6 month ago i have left my job & submitted Form 19 also for PF withdraws.
onfortunately i have not submitted form 10C for pension withdrawls.
Now my PF settled successfully but i am not able to submit claim for 10C.
I am gettting error message – DATE OF EXIT EPS OR DATE OF JOINING EPS IS NOT AVAILABLE
Could you please help me & share your valuable advice ? because my money got stuck
Regards,
Mohsin
Dear Mohsin,
I think your employer did not enter the date of exit. Hence, contact your employer to enter those dates.
Hello Sir,
I was going through your blog on HOW TO WITHDRAW EPF AND EPS ONLINE.
I have retired on attaining age 58 in May’2018, I have not been a contributing member after November 2015 and wish to apply online for final settlement of EPF and also submit claim for pension under EPS
Would be grateful if you could kindly advise on following :-
1] I tried connecting to the online form but could not find any option for EPF final settlement (in fact the composite form was not available there). There was only an option for advance request. I have UAN, AADHAR, PAN & bank account details, mobile, email, etc registered and verified. Kindly advise
2] I could not see interest details for the year 2017-18 in the pass book, it shows interest credited till 31.3.2017 only
regards
Dear Alok,
1) It may be due to your employer not entered exit date. Please check the same with your employer.
2) They will update.
Hi Sir,
I quit my job on May 31st 2018.
My pf account is UAN activated, linked with aadhaar, bank account and pan. Also, I have transferred my previous pf accounts to my current account. I have total 8 years service.
I am not employed anymore. My questions are
1. Do I have to wait for 60 days after my last working day to withdraw pf amount?
2. Can I withdraw 100% amount or only employee contribution is allowed to withdraw? If so when can I get the employer contribution?
3. Is there any tax deduction on online withdrawal?
4. How long it takes to get money for online withdrawal?
Thank you
Ambily
Dear Ambily,
1) Yes.
2) You can withdraw both employer and employee contribution.
3) No as your service is more than 5 years the amount you receive is tax-free.
4) Around 10-15 days.
I need to know how do i withdraw the eps amount?Am i even eligible as I have just completed 3.5 years of service with my organization?
Dear Mahi,
As you are in job, you are not eligible to withdraw the EPS.
I left one company on 30.03.2018 and another on 01.07.2018. Both the pf account is showing in UAN portal. The bank account details have been updated in UAN portal and Addhar seeding has been done. But the option of final withdrwal is not appearing in the portal . Only partial withdrwal is appearing . Kindly help
Dear Manali,
Either date of exit not entered by your employer or if you are working using same UAN, then you are not eligible to withdraw but can transfer it.
Hi Basavaraj,
This is a very helpful blog.
I read many replies posted by you to various questions and they are very helpful.
But I didn’t find exact answer to my question.
My previous company closed our working unit on Oct-2015.
I’ve UAN with verified AADHAR and updated SBI saving bank a/c nunber.
When unit is closed, I’ve completed 4.3 years (DOJ: Aug-2011)
Now, I’m working with other company and this company has his own PF trust.
UAN portal shows both PF a/c numbers (but can not access present a/c).
I didn’t transferred my PF balance of old a/c and received interested on it for 2 years (still I didn’t received interest for the last financial year).
And my question is,
Can I withdraw all amount (EPF+EPS) of my old a/c?
I don’t want to transfer it to this EPF trust a/c.
Dear RRT,
YES.
thank you so much Sir,
Regards,
Ratankumar
I have left the job on April 3 2018. and my final settlement was on may 15 2018. Form 19 and 10 C is not available in my portal
Dear Abdulbasit,
You have to download it from EPFO portal.
It is not available on EPFO portal
Dear Abdul,
Whether you visited the Unified portal?
yes i visited but only form 31 is available
Dear Abdulbasit,
Please check once again.
Dear Sir,
In my UAN I have one pf account in which all my kyc and bank details are updated and approved by my employer ( which i left 1.5 yrs back).
For the last 1.5 yr , no pf amount deposited in that account.
Now recently I joined another employer , they opened new pf account and linked with my UAN.
But If I click on claim to withdraw the pf now , I got a message that :: Please update your latest Bank account no. and valid IFSC details through your employer/Unified Portal. Even though my previous employer have already approved my all kyc and bank account details on portal.
Please suggest what to do and why it is like this ??
Dear Sourabh,
Whether those KYC details approved by EPFO? In my view, no. That is the reason you are getting such message.
Do I have to submit the claim for EPF & EPS separately (through EPF portal)?
I have worked just two years,…..
Dear Avik,
Use composite claim for to apply for withdrawal of both.
Dear Basavaraj,
I have 3 PF ac and all these are linked with one UAN i withdrawal pf for two ac successfully but the amount of pension contribution for both the ac was not get withdrawn with.
pls guide what can i do to withdrawn my pension contribution.
Dear Lalit,
If you submitted the EPS withdrawal then raise an issue with EPFO or submit the form for withdrawal of EPS also.
I m also getting the same error Error: Invalid key info in digital signature (this means that certificate used for signing the authentication request is not valid – it is either expired, or does not belong to the AUA or is not created by a well-known Certification Authority). you said to be in touch with EPFO. what does that mean coz i had been doing that. nobody picks up the call neither anyone replies on email. what am i supposed to do?
Dear Parul,
Refer my reply related to this issue.
Hi Sir, My employee share – 31850, employer share – 9738 & pension contribution – 21678. My total service is one and a half year. My Aadhar is verified. I have 2 questions.
1. If I withdraw my EPS alone, is it taxable?
2. My total EPF is about 40k (Employer + employee), So this is taxable or not? becoz, the flowchart saying above 30K without PAN is taxable and when I tried to claim, above 50K it is table. What is correct?
Can I proceed my claim without PAN verification?
Dear Dhanalakshmi,
1) YES.
2) I said there will not be TDS if the amount is less than Rs.50,000. However, it is still taxable income for you.
Thanks, Sir. Still, I am confusing. How is it a taxable income for me? Because my total EPF is Rs. (31850+9738).
Dear Dhanalakshmi,
As your service period is less than 5 years, even if they not deduct TDS, it is taxable income for you.
I am getting this error when i click on the Addhar OTP to submit the pf claim form.
Please advise me what should i do.
My no. 7738509032
Error: Invalid key info in digital signature (this means that certificate used for signing the authentication request is not valid – it is either expired, or does not belong to the AUA or is not created by a well-known Certification Authority).
Dear Abhishek,
Nowadays many receiving such error. Better to be in touch with EPFO.
Me to getting same error
I ASSUMED YOU HAVE’NT UPDATED YOUR PAN THROUGH KYC.. 🙂
kindly confirm whether by visiting the EPFO office this error is getting closed by the EPFO members as me to getting the same type of error while applying for online EPF claim.
Dear Nathiya,
I hope so.
Dear Sir, I am have left my company before 4 months and settled abroad…Now I am trying to withdraw my PF, but getting Error message during final stage…
Error: Invalid key info in digital signature (this means that certificate used for signing the authentication request is not valid – it is either expired, or does not belong to the AUA or is not created by a well-known Certification Authority).
I am not getting any OTP on my registered mobile and getting above error….Please help…I am trying this from couple of days.
Dear Mohan,
It is a technical glitch. Better to be in touch with EPFO.
I m also getting the same error Error: Invalid key info in digital signature (this means that certificate used for signing the authentication request is not valid – it is either expired, or does not belong to the AUA or is not created by a well-known Certification Authority).
Dear Harsh,
Refer my answer.
I am not able to open the portal for applying my EPF. Kindly guide.
Dear Parismita,
Try after some time.
Hi Sir,
My employee share – 31850, employer share – 9738 & pension contribution – 21678. I raised a ticket for some queries in the grievance cell and they said Rs. 24101 is available in your account. Since it is less than 30000 TDS is not applicable. I have some confusions.
1. Why are they saying its only some 24k available in my account?
2. Can I withdraw my both PF and pension at a time or separate claim process required?
3. Am I eligible for TDS deduction or not?
4. If I withdraw both PF & pension amount, totally how much I will get in my account?
Please Clarify
Dear Dhanalakshmi,
I am not sure why they say so. As per me, you can withdraw EE+ER+EPS (part of). Check with them only.
Hi Team,
I want to withdraw my pension contribution amount . What is the steps.
Thanks in advance
Dear Shivkant,
I explained the same in above post.
I have submitted form to withdraw PF not pension.
The claim status initially was Under process and now it is Status not available.
What could be the issue and what action or followup should I take to resolve the issue..
I have completed 9 years of services..
Dear Prashant,
Not sure..Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi,
When i am trying update my PAN details in UAN getting below error .And ADhar and bank updated in UAN and approved as well. I think PAN contains name along with intial only . Actually i wanted to withdram my full PF balance .
Employee contribution: 39755
Employer contribution: 12148
Pension contribution : 26200
May i know if i proceed with PF withdraw without PAN updation , how much tax will deduct and how much will credit ?
UAN name : Poornima Digumurthy
PAN name: D Poornima
“Pan verfication failed. (Name against UAN does not match with the NAME in Income Tax Department)”
Thanks
Divya
Dear Divya,
Why not try to link PAN by visiting the concerned regional EPFO?
Dear Sir
I have left the company on 31-03-2013 after 4 year of working, I got my PF Fund Transfer thru Form 12 B in to my New Company, but didn’t took any action on the EPS fund accumulated due to lack of knowledge
Please guide me how can I withdraw the same now, as 5 years have passed on now
Dear Manish,
Your EPS was also transferred along with EPF. If you still have a doubt, then better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello sir,
I have few doubts. I left job on feb 3rd 2018 and updated all KYC details including bank account. The company also has updated the end of employment details.
I want to claim the EPF amount as well the EPS amount(pension amount). My service is only for 2 years. I am going abroad and I am not going to continue employment here.
I submitted the online form 19 for claiming the EPF amount.
Now to claim the EPS amount whether I should submit the option as “ONLY PENSION WITHDRAWL(Form 10C)”
It means whether I should submit it twice (form 19 and form 10 C online seperately)
Also, my employer advised me to send a two copies of form 15G and a pan card to PF office after online submission.
Whether I should download form 15G fill in and send it?
Please help me in claiming full amount.
Many thanks in advance
Dear Sowmya,
Yes, you have to submit Form 10C also. Yes, download the Form 15G and send it.
Thank you so much sir. Do you have any copy of form 15G and instructions for filling it. In internet i can find the two different copies of form 15G. Where to find the right one?
Dear Sowmya,
Refer my old post “Video Tutor-How to fill new Form 15G & Form 15H?“.
Ok . Thanks a Ton Sir!!
HI sir,
Im apply online claim 31 form . 30days completed i will check my pf passbook 9600 withdraw but my bank account check amount not cradit. Pf passbook Claim Againts Para 68j .
Dear Kalai,
Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello,
I have applied for EPs withdrawal through online portal on 5th April 18 but after 22-23 days my claim status was reflecting rejected without any reason, I haven’t applied for pf withdrawal yet.
Please help..
Deepa-Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
I have entered only epf amount in claim form now it is showing under process is it possible to withdraw eps also if yes what is the process tq
Kishore-Yes, you can.
I have got EPF on 2014.Now I have applied for EPS after 50,can I get?How can I know that I got EPF and EPSboth in 2014.
Subhra-Cross check with regional EPFO.
Hi,
I am not able to link my PAN in UAN portal, but I have completed more than 5 years of service.
Still TDS will be deducted if I withdraw my PF? If yes, at what %?
Thanks
Ravinder
Ravinder-You can try linking PAN by visiting the regional EPFO. If your EPF is more than 5 years old, then there will not be any TDS.
Hi Sir, I am trying to update my KYC. Even though my name in both PAN and the EPFO Portal is same, I am unable to update my PAN details. I raised a grievance too and got the same reply as ‘your name both the database should be same’
Can you help me to update the KYC? because i need to withdraw my PAN and Pension Contribution
Dhanalakshmi-Why not try to update the same by visiting to concerned EPFO?
Dear sir i just got advance pf amount But i want full pf and eps amount so i login uan. Portal again and go at our services then at claim but i couldn’t got any option to withdrwal just showing claim status please help how to withdrwal remaining pf amont and eps
Dear Devendra,
Wait for some time or raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
I have transferred the PF amount from my earlier organization to new one. I see the amount got transferred into the new PF account with new company. But my EPS amount was not transferred. I realised this will be be transferred after one resigns a company.
In the claim request I dont see an option to withdraw the EPS amount . (10c). Can you recommend other options I can explore?
Avinash
Avinash-In composite claim form it is available.
Thanks Basavaraj for the response. But my doubt still remains. But I can see only the Form -31 option on the claim option
Logged into the unified portal –> Online Services –> Claim (Form -31,19 & 10C) –> in the drop down only form 31 option comes up. Nothing else
I have submitted a transfer request earlier and the status in Accepted by field office.
Am I looking at the right option you are referring to? Kindly advice.
Avinash-It may be some portal error. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Sir I have applied pf full settlement 19 on 13/4/18 and I have got money and now I have applied for EPs amount form 10c on 19/4/18…….now I will get EPs amount or not
Ravindra-Wait for their process.
Hi sir,
I have applied online pf claim and submitted both 19 and 10 c form within gap of 5 minutes between 19 and 10 c.
Is it okay?
Will I get my amount on time ?
Is there any mistake I have done?
MY KYC IS UPDATED.
and how much time It will take to
Get the whole amount?
Pls suggest I have to pay my loan ASAP.
Saket-You have to wait to get all your questions get answered.
I have received my partial PF amount however I am not getting the option to claim for form. 19 or form 10c . I left my organization on 17th Feb 2018 and I am currently not employed. Why am I not getting the option to claim for my eps amount ? I have worked for more than 2 years there. Please let me know why is it happening ?
Sneha-You will be eligible to withdraw after the two months from the date of your exit.
Hi,
Currently I am working in Company C, Previous company A’s PF account is transferred to Company B. In the Member passbook of Company B is showing only EPF amount of Company A, EPS amount is not transferred. Now i want to close the Company B’s PF account permanently and want to withdraw full EPF and EPS amount.
I worked in Company A for 7 Months and Company B for 11 Months.
Q1. what will happen to Company A’s EPS amount if I close the Company B’s PF account?
Q2. Is it possible to Withdraw Both EPF and EPS also from the Previous Company B?
Kindly help with the Confusion….!!
Pujitha-You can withdraw both company’s EPF+EPS.
But i am not able to see the EPS amount from the first company. Is there any procedure to check the EPS amount?
Pujitha-You no need to worry. Your EPS will follow your EPF.
Hi Basavraj Sir,
I have a query regarding my PF and Pension amount withdrawal.
Sir, I have applied for my PF settlement on 6th April, 2018 and on 11th I have applied for my pension amount withdrawal online. On 13th April I received an email stating that my PF settlement amount as per form 19 has been sent to my bank account and will be credit within 3-4 working days but I have not received any notification about my pension amount.
Sir, I have worked for just 7 month will I be getting my pension amount as well ?
Prakash-Yes, you will get part of EPS. If you have not received, then raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
I am working on company C.Previously i have worked on Company A and Company B.
I have transferred PF from A to B. Now when i tried to transfer from B to C ,i got replay that it cant completed because EPS is still with Company A.What is the next step here.
Sandeep-I am not sure why such error message. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello,
A small doubt, Can I withdraw just the EPS amount and not EPF amount… Is there a provision for that?
If yes, what is the criteria that I need to fulfill?
Thanks in advance
Sankalp-NO.
My claim status shows moved to feild office does it mean 100% it will be processed p.s I have not updated pan since my pf amt is less than 20000
TIA
SECONDARY Will I need to submit eps 10c separately becoz some sort of error is shown after aadhar otp entered correctly
My total service is Oly 13 months
Pramoth-It is with Field Office. You have to wait. Now a single composite claim form is enough for claiming all.
Awsome blogs!
Some basic queries. If I change jobs from an unexempted organization to an exempted organization (with it’s own trust), am I still legible for EPS withdrawl or would the EPS be mandatory moved to the newly joined exempted organization?
Rahul-If you are withdrawing EPF then you can withdraw EPS also.
Hello,
I completed my service of 9 years and 9 months and left the job form privat company. I placed request for final withdrawal of PF online, which is currently pending. By mistake I missed to claim the Pension portion. Will I able to raise the Pension withdrawal separately? Please guide. Thanks.
Pun-Yes, you can request for pension now.
Hello!
Thanks for the quick response. As suggested, I tried requesting pension portion online. It showed the following messages and hence I could not proceed:
“NOT ELIGIBLE FOR PENSION WITHDRAWAL” :- Your Previous Claim (Form 19) is Pending Already.
I hope I am eligible; but can raise the request only after current claim for withdrawal of PF portion is closed. Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks.
Pun-Yes, you are right and I hope your earlier pending withdrawal also requesting the EPS also. Anyhow you have to wait.
No. As mentioned earlier, by mistake I selected the ‘PF only withdrawal’ while submitting the current pending claim.
Sure, let’s wait until it’s closed.
Hello,
As mentioned earlier, I had placed the PF withdrawal request online during the first week of April, which is currently showing under process status.
To my surprise, today when I checked the EPFO portal, many of the details available earlier under my profile have disappeared. Details like ‘exiting service’ etc are now blank.
Also under the claim, only advance claim option is available; where as, earlier 3 withdrawal options (only PF, only PS, and combined) where available.
Is this change in my portal temperory as the claim is under process. I am quite surprised to see this status.
Also, last midnight I got SMS from the EPFO (same message 21 times). The content of the message was: “A auto transfer claim for transferring your EPF accumulations from XXXX. P LTD to XXXX. P LTD has been considered against UAN XXX. If this transfer does not belong to you, it can be stoped claim within 20 days of date of linking(13-APR-2018) by login to https://unifiedportal-mem.epfindia.gov.in/memberinterface or contact your employer /concerned EPFO field office.”
Please guide. Thanks.
PUN-I think there is an issue with the portal. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance cell Online.
Did you mean to say that there is an issue specific to my case?
PUN-May be with portal.
Dear Sir,
I would like to withdraw EPS only through online. Is it possible? if it is possible how much TDS will be deducted. May it affect the EPF claim because I would like to withdraw EPF after some time only.
Mahesh-You can’t withdraw EPS alone.
Dear sir
My PAN not verified at UN portal, Can I withdraw my EPF and EPS online. My service is only two and half years. Please guide.
Mahesh-If you not provide PAN then they deduct higher TDS. If you are OK with that, then go ahead.
Hi,
I submitted claim forms for PF and EPS withdrawal and my claim got rejected mentioning reason “ Member has not furnished form 15g and Pan copy”
All my kyc details ( pan, aadhar and bank details) are updated and approved in portal.
Could you please suggest where to submit mentioned form and document and are they even required during online claim submission ?
Shalini-Submit to the regional EPFO.
Thanks Basavaraj.
Are these documents required in case of onlne clam too?
Shalini-For online its not required.
Sir,
I want to online claim EPF Amount but whenever I click on claim form tab it shows its under maintainence.
Iam suffering from last 10days.
EPFO is highly reputed organisation, and such a loose point ?
Sameer-In what sense I can help you in this?
Sir my epf balance withdraw by me,but by mistake my pension contribution not withdraw,so tell me how to withdraw pension contribution balance online or offline.
Rajesh- You can withdraw it online if your UAN is fully KYC complied. Otherwise submit the form to concerned EPFO.
I am facing issues with my EPF withdrawal, after more than six months of exit. During this time, I have worked as an independent contractor, and may take salaried employment at some time during the future.
I would be happy if some things could be made clear to me, by an expert, point-wise.
1. I had incorrect date of birth registered with my EPF account. I filed the changes through the epfo portal. The employer sat on it for 45, days, but agreed to send a joint declaration fixed it. (I don’t need clarity on this, just added this for context)
2. I understand that Aadhaar number, bank account, and Pan number are essential for online transfer. As of now, the employer tells me the following
i) The employer has lost credentials to the epfo portal (irresponsible, but plausible)
ii) The employer is saying that they are submitting form 9, and form 2 (or both)
Can you tell me what these forms are for, and do they, in any way, help in approval/updation on the KYC? Or is the employer being clueless, or worse, being deceptive?
3. Suppose, by magic, these KYC are completed. (Aadhaar, Bank A/c with IFSC, PAN), is there any employer involvement/approval for EPF withdrawal? (I mean for the online process). In the past, I have done an online transfer, and employer approval was needed, but it was granted promptly.
4. In case I do an online transfer to a future new employer, will the past employer approval be needed? (Online)
5. I had also filed a grievance, with the relevant authority. The reply was as follows:
It is informed that after processing your grievance,the following action(s) has been taken:
Necessary directions have been issued to the establishment to update KYC and the same will be approved shortly. Member has joined xx-yy-zzzz and left on aa-bb-cccc member may apply in claim form 19 and 10c for withdrawl
Can you tell me what is the role of form 19, and form 10c? Do either, or both need the employer’s signature?
Rahul-It is hard for me to handhold you in all aspect of EPF. Be in touch with concerned EPFO.
Thanks, I am perfectly capable of looking after myself. As you can see, I have done a fair bit of work on my own, unlike many of the other posters. I just wondered if you knew what these forms were, and have some knowledge about the process. And I’ll obtain more info from RTIs, and try to be more helpful than you to those who need it.
I just hoped that you could be more helpful.
So, thanks, but no thanks.
Does EPFO database gets itself updated if employee is unemployed for two months with Exit Date taking last PF contribution into account or that’s done manually though we have all automated. Does this functionality exists of DOE updation automatically?
Veer-Exit date has to be entered by employer.
sir
after working for 2 years i quit my job to be a housewife . i applied for pf withdrawal (form 19) and eps withdrawal (form 10 c).
After about 20 days i received the epf final settlement on my bank account but not the eps . My doubt is whether the final settlement epf amount includes the eps as well. does epf final settlement includes eps
please help me clear my doubt
Jaya-I think it is inclusive of EPS. Check the exact values.
Hello Sir, My dad wants to withdraw his full pension amount what form needs to filled for that 10C 0r 10D?, he retired last year on 1 June 2017, and has worked in his company for 20yrs.
He has withdrawn his full EPF amount by filling form 19 successfully online and also received the amount with 10 days, however he is unable to fill form10c online he keeps getting message as ” Service more than 9.5yrs or less than 6 months”, can you please guide me please EPFO is not very helpful.
Sonali-He is not eligible to withdraw EPS. He has to apply for scheme certificate and will receive the pension. Let him be in touch with concerned EPFO.
Sir I My previous company is wipro I work there for 7 month after left the wipro i apply for my pf withdrawal. within 3 days I got my pension amt but i did not get my pf amount yet. i apply for both of the amt( pension amt and pf amt) can i withdraw my pf amount also online ? and how much days they taken for give me that amount (pf amount)
Amol-If your UAN is fully KYC complied, then you can apply it online.
Sir,
I want to withdraw both EPF and EPS as I served in my previous company for 11 months.
While authenticating PAN it is giving name mismatch. when I checked the name on the PAN and UAN
are same.
Can you please advice me how to overcome this problem.
Rgds,
Padmashree
Shree-Try to link the PAN by visiting the regional EPFO.
Sir,
Thank you for the reply.
Since my previous employer company in Delhi.
I am staying in Bangalore, can I visit Bangalore EPFO office to get the KYC updated.
Kindly advice.
Rgds,
Padmashree
Shree-Try your luck.
Sir, I want to withdraw my EPS balance online just like EPF. Is this possible? If yes then please tell me the procedure.
Prabhat-You can do so both EPF and EPS using composite claim form.
Hi sir my company name got changed from A to B. Now I have two Pf accounts hence I transferred Pf from A to B.. But pension amount not transferred still it is in A account.. I left Company now.. How to claim pension I claimed Pf but for pension it s getting error claim not submitted on portal please help me
Shrinath-EPS will never get transferred. EPFO just update service records. Hence, you can apply for EPS also.
While applying for EPS getting error claim not submitted on portal.. How to fix it tried multiple times.. I got claimed only Pf not pension.. Help me sir
Shrinath-Better you contact EPFO.
Hi,
I have submitted form 19 and form 10C online. My Adhar and Bank details is seeded but PAN is not seeded.
Without PAN also I could submit the form. How much will be the TDS?
Thanks in advance.
Aditura-Refer my post about TDS on EPF withdrawal.
1. Sir my question is that if i quit my current organisation on 20 th may 2018 and join new organisation on 1st june 2018 then can i withdraw eps in this 10 days gap. And if this is allowed can i join new company on 1st june post withdrawing eps amount?
2.My second question is whether i can check my eps balance anywhere?
Shirish-1) NO.
2) Check in Passbook.
Thanks for prompt response.
1. Sir is there any time gap defined between two organizations for withdrawl of eps?
2 . My organization is exempt establishment hence unable to check on epfo site in passbook. Is there any other way?
Shirish-1) To withdraw EPS or EPF, you must be out of job for at least 2 months.
2) Then contact your employer itself. They might have the internal set up.
Hello
I have worked in a company for 7 year and now I am not working anywhere. The company has updated my Last working day and sited reason as Cessation (short service). I tried to claim form 19 and form 10 c. But in UAN I am getting seperate options. “Only PF Withdrawal (Form-19)” & “Only Pension Withdrawal (Form 10-C)”, how to submit the claim. Is it like twice I have to submit if so can I do both the submissions the same day?
Samuel-Use Composite Claim Form.
Hi Sir,
I am facing same issue as there are only 2 forms listed in the drop down “Only PF Withdrawal (Form-19)” & “Only Pension Withdrawal (Form 10-C)” and no Composite Claim Form is listed there.
I have applied for PF using form 19 but while selecting form 10-c for pension amount I am getting “DATE OF EXIT EPS OR DATE OF JOINING EPS IS NOT AVAILABLE”.
Please suggest regarding it.
Thanks!
Swati-I think your employer not entered the date of exit. Hence, you may be facing an issue.
I have submitted form D. The claim status initially was Under process and now it is Status not available. What does this indicate?
1. I am working since 1983 March continuous without break but in different companies.
2. I have never withdrawn my PF but kept transferring to the new PF account till my last employer.
3. I resigned on 4th July 2017.
4. My DOB 14/08/1960.
5. I have now received my PF ~ 70 Lacs and applied for pension by submitting form 10D providing all PF Account Details of previous employments.
6. My last CTC is approximately 63 Lacs.
7. What will be my Pension amount.
8. My email ID mjmenon@rediffmail.com.
Regards
MJ Menon
Menon-If you completed 10 years of service, then you can’t withdraw EPS, but can get it scheme certificate. Be in touch with concerned EPFO for better clarity.
You have not responded to my mail completely.
Regards
MJ Menon
Sir,
As I have resigned 3 month ago and i have 9.7 Years of Aggregate service.
10% TDS is applied on my online claim of Rs70000.
pl explain why and what can I do now?
Sunil-I am not sure why they deducted TDS. You can raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi Sir,
I worked for 7 years in Company A and then moved to Company B. I transferred my PF from A to B. Both of this PF were mapped to UAN A. Now when I moved to Company C after 1.5 years, they have created a new UAN B (I do not know why) . I transferred to my pf from UAN A to UAN B. Now from UAN A , I raised EPS withdrawal claim. Will it be accepted or rejected? If accepted then will I get both of the EPS amount of Company A and Company B?
Thanks in advance.
Sourav-You can move EPS from UAN A to UAN B.
Hi Sir, Thank you very much for your prompt response. But I did not see any option to transfer eps from UAN A to UAN B while placing withdrawal request from UAN A.
Also I want to withdraw this eps amount of UAN A now. Am I be able to do that?
Sourav-Yes, this what I wanted from you to know. EPS will never get transferred. Whenever you transfer EPF, your EPS records will be updated by EPFO. But before that you have to request EPFO through your current employer for the merger of both UAN.
Hi Sir,
I do have a question;
As on the Portal it is showing the options for Online Claim as “Only PF Withdrawal (Form-19)” & “Only Pension Withdrawal (Form 10-C)”, Am I eligible for both of them & withdraw one at a time, or I can only Apply for ” Only PF Withdrawal (Form-19)” i.e Employer & Employee Share.? I served a total Period of 2 years & 3 Months in the Organization..
Ajay-You can withdraw both.
Hi sir,
I am having 5.6 ys service and have applied for EPF witdrawl and not EPS for previous company as result EPF got credited.Now I want to join into other company and want to withdraw total EPF and EPS.So should i get the previous company EPS amount. Please give the steps to withdraw entire EPS amount.
Mallesh-Yes, if your UAN is not the same which is currently using.
1.But UAN is same for both the EPS Accounts.If so when i would be able to withdraw previous company EPS amount?
2.I am being released from the current company on march last week and company joining will be april 1st week.So when i need to submit the online withdrawal EPF and EPs request?
Mallesh-1) As per rule, if you are working, then you are not allowed to withdraw.
2) After 2 months from not being in job.
Hi Sir,
1.Shall apply for EPF advance withdrawal(90% Total EPF) for my personal emergencies while working in the company?
2. If so the total EPS and rest of EPF(10%) will be transferred online to other company pf account if I leave from current company?
Mallesh-Personal Emergencies in the sense? You are allowed to withdraw only for purposes like health issues, purchase of property or educational cost and that also with some rules and restrictions.
Hi sir,
Due to some health issues only I wanted withdrawal.
So in that case could you please answer my previous queries
Mallesh-Refer my post for eligibility “EPF Withdrawal or Advance for Medical Expenses“.
Hi Basavaraj
I have been working in the existing company for last 7.5 years.
i have applied for partial withdrwal through form 31 online 4 days back. Now the amount which i put as 90% of my Employee contribution+employer contribution+employee pension scheme. It is showing udner process but i wanted to know whether i will get amount transfer or not in your previus comments i have read that for eps i need to separate form of form 10c.
Please suggest
Anand-Whether you transferred the EPF to new account?
new account??? i did not changed the company i am still working in the same company
Anand-How can you partially withdraw from EPS?
HI my status of claim is showing claim settled but no amount has got transffered in my bank account
Anand-Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello sir..
When I change the job I haven’t t to transfer the pf..currently iam not working.i want to withdraw complete amount from both the employer.please suggest do I need to raise transfer req now?
Dear Suma,
The transfer is not required.
When I apply for EPS -10c online, error showing ‘DATE OF EXIT EPS NOT AVAILABLE’ , but in website it clearly shows date of exit. What should i do?
Shaiju-Raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
I worked in previous organisation for 1.5 years (1st and only Job) and I have applied for EPF (Form 19 ) and EPS (Form 10C) both together. Its been more than 2 months I left my previous organisation and I am jobless now. Will I get full EPF and EPS amount? My total EPF+EPS is around 56,000 INR so, will there be any TDS deduction? If yes, then how many percent?
Disha-You will get full EPF and part of EPS. They deduct TDS. Refer my post for the same at “EPF Withdrawal Taxation-New TDS (Tax Deducted at Source) Rules“.
Thank you. I would like to know if therr is any online provision to upload or fill 15G form because I submitted form 19 and 10C online but wasn’t able to locate any 15G/15H form or is it calculated automatically ? As every month the actual earned salary is updated by the employer.
Disha-Let them process or ask for the same.
Sir,
I am jobless from last 4 months, I have 9.8 years of aggregate service (in 2 companies).
I have two queries –
1) Can i withdraw full PF balance ( employee+ employer share) or only employee share + interest.
2) can i withdraw partial/full EPS amount using offline procedure in some emergency conditions?
Sunil-1) YES.
2) NO.
Dear sir,
I have left my old company at dec 2015 and now i want to withdrawal or transfer my EPS money. I already activated my old UAN no. With pan card.
1) is it possible now to withdrawal or transfer
2) my old pf was in trust so please suggest me the right way.
Regards
Vikram
Vikram-As you are in job, you are allowed to transfer ONLY.
Hello Basavaraj
I have completed 10 years and 02 moths and I am not working since 6 months. I worked for Employer 1 for 4.5 years +Employer 2 for 2.8 years+Employer 3 for 2.5 Years. I see Employer 1 has EPS amount of Rs 29000+ Employer 2 EPS 22000+ Employer 3 EPS 36000
Can I withdraw EPS amount now? Please let me know
Thanks
Dinkar
Dinkar-As you completed 10 years, you are not allowed to withdraw. You can only apply for scheme certificate.
Thanks Basavaraj for the quick reply
I see it will be 86000 overall. When I can with draw this amount? Please let me know
Thanks,
Dinkar
Hello Basavaraj,
I have one more query
My PF amount at the moment is 4 Lakh+. I would like to know when would interest earned on the account will be credited to account every year. If I withdraw PF I will get additional amount as interest
Please let me know
Dinkar
Dinkar-Refer my post “How EPF (Employees’ Provident Fund) interest is calculated?“.
Sir, Thank you for your valueable replies.I have applied for both EPS & EPS through online. For EPF, it shows under process. But for EPS, rejected as….has been rejected due to :- PLEASE SUBMIT FORM 19 & 10C/OK
Please provide me a suggestion.
Ramana-I think you have to submit the said forms.
Hello Sir,
I have claim final settlement and Yesterday EPFO credited the amount of PF into my account but not credited Pension contribution, so they will credit pension amount or not?
Anup-If you applied for withdrawal and eligible for withdrawal, then why not? If they not, then raise an issue with EPFO.
Hi,
I have raised a PF transfer request form UAN portal. EPF amount has transferred to my new PF account but EPS/pension contribution was not transferred.
can you please help me to get pension contribution my new PF account.
Shiva-EPS will never get transferred. EPFO just update your service records.
Hi Basavaraj,
Thank you so much for your reply.
If you dont mind can you please tell me
1. where can we track our pension contribution as you said EPFO update our service records.
2. when can we withdraw pension contribution from our EPF account.
3 what is the terms and conditions to withdraw pension contribution.
Thanks.
Shiva
Shiva-1) You can check online using your employer-provided facility (if they trust). Otherwise, request your employer to share the EPS balance details.
2) You can withdraw after 6 months (when you leave the job). But if you are withdrawing before 10 years, then you will get part of it but not fully as per Table D. If you completed 10 years, then you will get scheme certificate which is eligible for pension when you retire from your employment.
3) I already explained in 2nd answer.
Hi Basavaraj,
My previous company is maintaining trust. And i made request for PF transfer but it sent an mail saying that raise an request for EPS transfer in https://unifiedportal-mem.epfindia.gov.in/memberinterface/ . I didn’t find any link to made that. Can you help me out.
Ramesh-It is available in that portal for requesting online transfer.
Dear sir,
I am working in A company and after two years B company is acquired A company. I’ve transfer entire PF amount to my existing B company through UAN.. but in this new company EPS amount is not reflecting. If i resigned from this company can i get entire amount including EPS and from my earlier two companies I’ve claimed the EPS or not i dont know because on that time i was not having the UAN and online checking on breakup..
If i was not claimed my previous EPS how to check and get the same from EPFO. please help sir..
In present company if i resign or continue what is the procedure to claim the EPS from EPFO
Santosh-You will get both EPS.
I have facing issue on EPS withdrawal . It was showing ” DATE OF EXIT EPS NOT AVAILABLE “
Aniket-Better to inform your employer to enter the date of exit.
Hello,
I have applied for PF Claim using UAN portal but Claim got rejected due below reason. Could you please give me some inputs on this.
Claim-Form-10C (EPS Withdrawal/SC)(Withdrawal Benefit / Scheme Certificate) Claim id- has been rejected due to :- WRONG ECR FILED BY EMPLOYER FROM 09/2014.SO APPLY ALONG WITH REV-3A ALONG WITH CLAIM FORM19&10C/OK
Note – when i activated my account in UAN portal, i have observed there was mismatch in name, i have corrected it and uploaded KYC. it this be any possible reason
Ram-I think it is an issue with your employer. Please be in touch with employer.
Hello, I applied for PF using Form 19 and 10-c and now Passbook showing Employee share-Rs.21306 and Employer share –Rs.6517 in withdrawal column and Pension Contribution showing is Rs.13426, i got a message 2 days back that Rs. 13426 has been credit in my account, but still not yet received, what about the Employee share and Employer share amounts, please help me and advise me .I did not understand please advise me
Mohammed-Usually they credit in slabs but not in one shot. Wait for up to Tuesday. If it is not credited to your account, then approach EPFO.
I need to claim both pf and pension, but in EPF site shows two options 1 ONLY PF, 2 ONLY PENSION ,Third option is not available how can I claim both at same time
Nithisgowtham-You have to claim separately (as per the process).
I am trying for Full PF settlement through online Form 19. On selecting the option, it only asks me to fill the address on the form and then on the same form there is a small box to check for OTP generation. Should it not show me ‘Generate Claim PDF’ option to generate ‘Claim form’ first for my review before I allow for OTP generation or will i get the claim form generation option after OTP is authenticated?
Also I completed more than 10 years of service and am under 50 years of age. Is it right that i can not withdraw EPS online for that reason? If yes, then what is the process to get ‘Scheme certificate’ ? Is it possible to do it online?
Meeta-Once you generate OTP, then you can view the claim form. As you completed more than 10 years, you are not allowed to withdraw. Hence, you have to apply for Scheme Certificate. Approach the concerned EPFO for the same.
Thanks for your prompt reply.
With regards to Scheme certificate, do i need to have form 10C signed from my employer? How long generally EPFO takes to process the Scheme certificate ?
Meeta-Yes, you have to submit the Form 10C. Hard to say anything about the process timeline.
Hi I have filled up my pf form online last week. I have filled up form 10 and 19 c both. I had received pf amount today. But it is less. I did nt receive the pension amount. I had worked fr 9 months. So can I know when will my pension amount gets credited to my account?
Vinayak-I think that also received. You will not get the full EPS but the part of it as per Table D.
hi .. I linked my PAN and AAdher with my EPF and left my job 2 months back.
1. Can I withdraw both EPF and EPS?
2. Is request given through UAN portal enough to withdraw both EPF and EPS?
Dhanalakshmi-1) YES.
2) YES.
Dear Basavaraj,
I had applied for pf withdrawal 2 months
After checking the status online its showing claim settled but amount dint got credited into my account yet.
Also after checking the Pan details
Its showing pan verification failed which was showing proper before withdrawal.
So the failed transaction is because of pan verification failed.??
If yes then do i need to apply again?
Please help
Please help ..
Akshay-Hard to say. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hello Basavaraj,
I had transferred my PF from employer A to employer B. I understand that PF amount gets transferred to my new employer whereas EPS, only service record gets updated on UAN and the amount does not get transferred to the new employer account.
Now I am unemployed for 3 months and have claimed for PF withdrawal by submitting for 19 & 10C online. I want to know if EPS from my previous employer (A) will also get credited along with the entire PF amount of A&B?
Thanks in advance for your guidance.
Karun-YES.
hi i have applied my form 19 last month
but i have checked in online its getting aadhar pending at field office
my employer said that no need to link pan already aadhar linked to pan please tell me
Rohith-As per me, linking Aadhaar is mandatory.
i have linked it but it showing pending at field office
Rohith-Then you have to wait.
Hello, I applied for PF full Withdrawal using Form 19 through online and it is under process.
Will I get Pension amount also withdrawn from that form itself ‘OR’ I should again submit Form 10C through online separately?
Kishan-I think you used the latest composite claim form, in that case EPS also included.
Hello, I applied for PF using Form 19 and 10-c also through online on 16 jan 2017 and now Passbook showing Employee share-Rs.41231 and Employer share –Rs.12793 in withdrawal column and Pension Contribution showing is Rs.12718 But credit in my account only 2 Amounts 1st is Rs.48622 and 2nd is Rs.3150 Total Amount Rs.51772.I did not understand please advise me
Harsh-You have to wait or raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Sir have any contact number for my issue who will confirm
Harsh-Contact the regional EPFO or raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi,
I have EPS total till date contribution is 1.47 lacs with 22 years of service. My retirement will be after 15 years. If I retire today, can I withdraw EPS? or when and how much EPS?
Regards,
Jayesh-Yes, you are eligible for a pension if you retire today.
Hi sir,
I can see that my PF from ex organisation has got transferred to my new organisation. But I can’t find the EPS amount.
I have quit my current organisation in order to study outside the country. So I wanted to place a request for EPS withdrawal. Please tell me how can I do it ?
Triparna-You have to use the EPF Composite claim form for withdrawal of both EPF and EPS.
I got the PF transfer done from the 1st organisation to the 2nd organisation I worked for. But I dont know whether the EPS also got transferred because it didn’t reflect in the passbook. The 1st organisation maintained 3 trusts.
When I left the 2nd organisation few days back, I submitted the composite form for PF withdrawal.
So now I am wondering what to do about the EPS in 3 trusts from my 1st organisation. Can you please let me know what can be done ?
Triparna-Your EPS also followed your EPF.
Ok thank you so much for your quick reply. Much appreciated !
Hi,
I have 4.3 years of experience and i claimed for EPF partial withdraw today online.
My PAN is appproved by my employer but online verification status is “Unverified”. My Adhaar is linked to my UAN and bank account details and mobile number are provided correctly.
After submitting the claim, i found in the claim pdf that the PAN is reflecting as “Not Available”. As the amount i claimed is more than 50k, i heard that there would be TDS deductions of 34% if pan is not provided.
But my doubt is, My PAN status. is it considered as provided because it is approved by my employer in the portal and also linked to my Adhaar, or considered as not provided as it is unverified?
Also, if there would be more TDS, i would like to cancel my claim. Please suggest how.
Gayatri-This is all happening due to your employer NON-verification of PAN. Inform the same to your employer. Also, avoiding TDS does not mean avoiding tax. Due to your service period, the income you receive from EPF is still taxable income for you and you have to pay tax on that.
Lemme share my experience here.
My KYC (Aadhar, PAN Bank A/C) was verified 3 years ago by my previous employer. A couple of weeks ago, UAN shockingly displayed that my PAN failed. PAN Unverified!!
Then i realised that the name on my PAN card ended with my initials while UAN and Aadhar just had my name spelt as ‘Arun Kumar’.
When i tried uploading my PAN i encountered an error message on UAN that stated (Name against UAN does not match with the NAME in Income Tax Department).
Worried about the 34% TDS deduction while withdrawing PF if PAN not verified, I thought of correcting the name on my PAN online. It took around 12 days to get a copy of my corrected PAN from NSDL to my residential address.
After which, I was able to upload /re-submit my PAN on UAN for my employer’s to digitally verify the same. Right now, its all fixed.
Arun-Do you think avoiding TDS means avoiding tax?
TDS stands for ‘Tax Deducted at Source’. PF withdrawals above 50,000 is taxable. TDS will be deducted at the rate of 10% unless PAN is submitted or verified on UAN.
However, in case Form 15G or 15H is submitted along with pan by the member, then TDS is not deducted. These forms are to declare that their income would not be taxable after receiving payment of their PF accumulations.
Note : If PAN is not updated then there will be a deduction of 34.6% for PF withdrawals above 50,000.
Arun-But avoiding TDS does not mean avoiding TAX. Also, all individuals are not eligible for submitting Form 15G or 15H. Your income must be below Rs.2,50,000 for that year.
Basavaraj, nowhere in my earlier comments have i mentioned about avoiding tax. Lets not get mixed-up between avoiding vs. saving. My intention here was to highlight the savings of 10% tax against 34.6% when PAN is provided during PF withdrawals.
If an individual withdraws PF above 50,000 before the completion of 5 continuous years of service then he/she is entitled for TDS.
If PAN is verified on UAN then they are entitled for a 10% TDS. If PAN not provided then the TDS is deducted at 34.6%.
Not all PAN verified members can further save the 10% TDS as there are certain criterias that make them eligible. To get detailed explanation on who can submit Form 15G/H and when, please visit the following link:
https://www.relakhs.com/form-15g-form-15h-clarifications/
Arun-Whether the TDS is 10% of 34.6%, at the end, it is based on the individual’s tax slab. This is what I am trying to say.
Dear Sir,
Successfully My previous PF transferred to current Member ID, I have raised the claim. But receive only current organisation PF and pension in 3 days. But not the OLD organisation. Its showing in Passbook with note : Credit subject to verification. Suggest way forward
Bodhaditya-Please wait for few days, then raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Please call me sir
9937749541
Sir ia m apply 19 or 10c but
Payment receive from 19 full payment or 10c full payment not receive please help sir .
My pension 12890rs iam receive 4462 rupees
Bhanja-Please approach EPFO.
please call back sir 9937749541
Hii sir I checked my passbook it’s showing zero balance and the withdraw columbs it’s showing the balance.. But still I didn’t get.. And status is showing only my PF number…
Sushanta-Raise the issue with EPFO through EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Ok, so I have been facing the same problem, because I provided an incorrect and invalid account number, the payment did not get credited to my account, however, EPFO has deducted the amount, now I have raised a grievance about the same issue and gone to the regional office, where they asked me to get in touch with my bank but the bank has no information about this. The claim status is “settled” . I don’t think they really know what that word means.This has been going on since March 22nd, 2018. Clueless.
Purvi-Wait for Grievance Cell reply.
Hi Sir,
I raised claim for settlement online i.e. form 19 and 10C. However the claim got rejected saying “Form 15G not submitted”.
Please help me regarding this. As per my knowledge there was no need of form 15G for online claim. Please let me know if it is required, how and where to submit this form.
Thanks
Ankit-Raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online stating the reasons for non-submission of Form 15G.
I Ave complete job service of less then five years in a organization and now resigned from there. And now I m not doing job anywhere. Want to withdraw both epf amount and pension scheme fund. Please suggest me which online form I need to submit. Form 19 or form 10c or both.
Subh-Refer the post “EPF Composite Claim Form -Single form to withdraw EPF without employer“.
Hello,
I moved to Germany(don’t have employer in India) and trying to place a PF withdrawal request using UAN portal where I have everything activated however I am getting the following error. As per the pre-requiste, all the pf balance must be transferred to the last PF account, since I don’t have employer in India, I even can’t initiate a transfer as the employer must sign in this case. So can you please suggest any alternate way to withdraw the EPF and EPS ?
Error -> Multiple member-id’s found linked to your UAN. Kindly transfer all to current member-id before proceeding.
Thanks in advance.
Sanjay-Hard realities. Better to raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi Basu,
Greetings of the day,
This year april month i changed job from one organization to another with 3 years experience in first company and same UAN only given to current employer for EPF now my question is am i allowed to withdraw pf amount whatever there in account by first employer because inside one UAN login two passbook are there
Thanks in advance
selvamani
Selvamani-NO.
Dear Sir,
Thanks for the brilliant blog.
I have one query. I have resigned from my company (Infosys) and am currently unemployed and no longer plan to take one for next 2 years. KYC shows that we need our employer to verify our documents. But I have no employer currently. Who has then to validate my Aadhar document in KYC? I need this so that I can claim my EPS money online as per your blog.
Regards,
Aikya
Aikya-If Aadhaar linking and verification is pending, then you can visit the concerned EPFO and link it offline.
Dear sir,
I am working in Ltd.co. I was taken internal shift from one Dept. to other Dept. after five years in the same organization but I am not transfer my PF to current Dept. here I was new PF account opened. I want to withdraw my previous PF. Can I able to do the same.
Amit-You are not allowed to withdraw.
Hello Sir, Is there a way i can withdraw my EPS amount after 10 years? I would be needing that money because i have personal loan to be paid off.
Thank you!
Pankaj-NO.
Ok..thank you sir.
If i opt to buy a house will i be able to withdraw EPS as well along with EPF after 10 years ?
Thank you very much for your time and support…very much appreciated and helpful.
Regards
Pankaj-For such advance, they consider EPF+EPS (I think).
Thank you very much..you are doing a great work by sharing knowledge and helping people this way…..It is much much appreciated sir!
Pankaj-Pleasure.
hi sir punith hear in my pf passbook in withdraw column they entered amount but i am still dint get the pf amount
in passbook balance showing zero.
Punith-Knock EPFO.
Hi,
I was on maternity leave and had to resign due to personal reasons. My employer has credited 2 months extra salary to my account, when the whole maternity policy was being changed by the govt. Now my employer says i’m not eligible for new policy. they added salary by mistake and i’ll have to return it to complete exit procedure. I want to withdraw my pf online but my name doesnt match with aadhar and my employer is not cooperating to change it or help me withdraw my pf until i pay the due amount. I’ve been struggling for almost 3 months now and i dont know what to do.
I want to know if we require the company relieving letter to withdraw pf directly from epfo office.
I wanted to avoid visiting epfo as i’ve heard it takes a lot of time and too many visits. It’d be difficult for me to manage with a baby and sick mother at home. but looks like i have no choice.
Not sure if you can advice something helpful but i just thought of asking.
Thanks anyway for your blogs, they’re very helpful
Neetu-Sad to hear your story. But check whether your EPF is KYC verified. If YES, then you can withdraw online. If NOT, then you have to apply offline by visiting EPFO WITHOUT EMPLOYER also.
I’ve completed 8 years in an organization. Would like to withdraw my pension amount. What is the procedure?
Nancy-Use above information and apply for EPF and EPS.
Hi Sir,
I am currently not working. It has been more than 3 months since I resigned. Now I am planning to withdraw my PF. But I am not using the bank account which is updated in EPF portal. Are there any options to change my bank account number against my PF.
Lakshmi-You have to change the bank through your employer.
Sir in UAN portal in approved kyc section a ‘S’ is showing under verify column against aadhaar .Can you say what is this ?
Biswajit-It shows that your Aadhaar is verified by employer.
Hi Sir,
I am Rishav and i have worked for 22 months and now I’m pursuing my MBA. I’m financing my study my self and for that i needed my epf and eps amount. I applied for both online using form 19 and 10C. My epf request is settled but my eps request is rejected. Can you please help me in resolving it because I’m in need of money.
Thanks.
Rishav-I am not sure why they rejected EPS claim. Raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi,
I am planning to withdraw PF for paying for my new house. I have paid the downpayment but I want to prepay my housing loan. My PF is linked to my AADHAR and I have submitted an online statement to my housing society.
To withdraw, do I need to submit the composite form? And should I give my personal bank account number in the composite form (which is already linked to my PF account)?
Also, I have not been working for more than 2 years due to ill health but I have only 4 years of continuous service. Will I be taxed for this withdrawal? If yes, is there a provision to not get taxed?
Rajendar-Refer my post “EPF withdrawal for house, flat or construction of property“.
Thanks Basavaraj. I read through your article and it doesn’t answer a few questions:
(a) I have not been working for more than 2 years due to ill health but I have only 4 years of continuous service. Will I be taxed for this withdrawal? If yes, is there a provision to not get taxed?
(b) If the downpayment is already made through a bank loan, can it be used to prepay the bank loan (not EMI but prepayment)
(c) The composite form doesn’t have any provision to write some other bank account number there (e.g., bank account number of the loan)
Rajendar-a) If you are taking as an advance, then no tax.
b) Usually, they allow to pay to the builder not to bank to reduce your EMI. But still, check with EPFO.
c) I am not sure of this.
Hi,
Can I withdraw the EPS amount rather transferring it to a new account while moving from one organisation to other?
Can I do this each time?
If yes, please let me know the procedure.
Thanks,
Anil
Anil-NO.
Hi ,
I have applied for PF withdrawal 31 as my PF age has crossed 5 years. I have already linked my Aadhaar , PAN and Bank Account with UAN and the same is reflecting on the KYC form.
Aadhaar has a caption verified but my PAN doesnt have the same on the KYC page.
But anyhow i am able to apply for the claim online and i received an acknowledgement .
In the acknowledgement it shows my PAN number but in the bracket ( not verified )
Will i have any issues on withdrawal ? request you to guide me on the same and let me know whom should i contact for verfification
Thanks,
Balaji K
Bangalore
Balaji-Whether your PAN status showing as verified? If so then you no need to worry while withdrawing.
Thank your for your update !
It is reflecting under the approved KYC along with Aadhaar and Bank details , but Verified status is available only for Aadhaar and not for PAN .
Hello Basu Ji,
My total service experience is 3.6 years, I used to work for an IT company and worked there for almost 3 years and now i have changed my job 5 months back, after joining in new organization i applied for PF transfer and can see that PF transfer has been done successfully. but wanted to know about the EPS amount.
Can I withdraw that amount? if Yes, than what is the procedure for that?
Thanks in advance,
Sandesh
Sndesh-Your EPS will follow your EPF. But it never get transferred. EPFO will just update your service records. Hence, you no need to worry.
Actually I am in need of some small amount as of now, so can i withdraw it, if yes than what is the procedure sir?
Sandesh-NO.
My query is relating to my moms eps withdrawal.My mom & dad are staying separately & we don’t know about his whereabouts.My mom is retired and now we are trying for her employees pension fund withdrawal…In form 10d,they have asked to submit age proofs and photos of family members(including spouse).We can submit just a copy of marriage certificate where age of my dad is mentioned apart from that we don’t have his photos or any other id proofs,will this be sufficient for eps withdrawal form?Will the form be accepted? Please guide.
Abhi-Better you be in touch with local EPFO.
I have updated my mobile number at adhar center. It says my mobile number is already verified in UIDAI site. But, when I try to submit online PF withdrawal form, I get error as Mobile not verified. I tried several time. What may be the reason? Please help
Rkhemantv-May be EPF data not updated with your mobile. Check with EPF account details also. Else, wait for some time and then try.
Hi Basu,
I left my job 6 months ago after working for 2 years and 9 months and am currently persuing studies.
I am in need of some money and was thinking of withdrawing my EPS.
Can you please help to clear my following doubts:
1) Can EPS be withdrawn without withdrawing EPF?
2) Am I right in thinking that EPS withdrawal is better for me than EPF as i do not need the whole amount, EPF will still earn me interest for 3 years and will also be taxed since I have not completed 5 years of service?
3) Does EPS withdrawal alone attract any taxation?
I would be really greatful if you can help to clear my doubts please.
Thanks in advance 🙂
Ritika
Ritika-1) NO.
2) I am against the withdrawal of both EPF or EPS. Keep it like that and once you join job, then use the same EPF.
3) I already replied.
Hi Basu,
I requested for PF Final Settlement online and I got the amount credited to my account. While filing the claim I selected option ‘Only PF withdrawal (Form 19)’. My question is – when I request for PF final settlement – does this amount includes the pension amount. Or I have to file another claim online using option ‘Only Pension withdrawal (Form 10C)’. Please suggest what needs to be done – As per my understanding – Pension is credited in a separate transaction. Hence, I have not received Pension amount. I was in a job for 8 years and now a freelancer.
Priyank-Instead of all these doubts, why can’t check the EPF part balance and cross check the same with the money credited.
Alright thnx 🙂
Hi Basavaraj,
Thank you for sharing the useful Info, Can you please guide how can I get my PF amount transferred since I am having 2 UAN one for current employer and one for last and now no one is ready to help. Pls suggest
Sunil-First request EPFO through your current employer for the merger of both UAN.
Hi Basu, All the conditions (Aadhar, Bank and mobile linking) mentioned in your post are satisfied in my case but online withdrawal (form 19) is not showing in my UAN login. Only Form 31 is available for loan facility. Please guide me to withdraw my EPFO balance through online.
Duraimurugan-Hard to believe. Better you raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell online.
Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti,
Recently I have withdrawn my Pf amount and then I have registered a request (25-09-2017) for EPS withdrawal through epf web portal and still reflecting as under process. may I know, how many days does it will take to credit the amount in bank account. please let me know.
My work experience is 1.5 Yrs
Sreejith-Wait for another week, if the status is same then raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
thank you
basu ji i got a msg from epfo your aadhar details against UAN could not be verified due to mismatch in details how to correct online plz respond
Rakesh-Better to visit the nearest concerned EPFO and update the same.
Hi Basu,
I quit my job last year and want to withdraw my PF balance as i am not in a job anymore.
My UAN has 2 PF accounts linked to it and when i try to claim withdrawal online, i get an error message saying i need to transfer the PF balance from first employer to the second one before withdrawal. My question is do i really need to do that. As my Aadhaar data is seeded can i not withdraw using the composite form and UAN number and submit it to the EPFO.
Thanks,
Sanjay
Sanjay-Actually not required but they are asking means you have to.
After Resign the job , how many days wait for offline withdrawal form sent.
Valeed-Two months.
same for online ??
Valeed-Refer my replies.
Hi,
I have been trying to claim the PF amount (partial withdrawal) on the portal. However, keep getting an error message ‘Multiple member-id’s found linked to your UAN. Kindly transfer all to current member-id before proceeding’. The transfer from previous organisation is reflecting in the passbook with a note saying ‘subject to verification’. Have frequently followed up with the EPFO, but in vain.
Could you please suggest how the above issue can be resolved in a timely manner. It has already been more than a month and the wait is still on.
Brinda-Raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Hi,
My name is Swathi, I have complete 10 years of service in my current organization. I am planning to go for
PF partial withdrawal for purchasing a house. I have below doubts. Can you pls check and reply .
1) When I try to apply for the loan online, in the purpose of Loan filed i could see only the option “CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSE”. So for “purchasing a house” also I have to select the option “CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSE”?
2) Once I received the PF loan for “purchasing a house”, do I need to send any documents to the EPFO
after the property registration. If so, is there any dead line (time period) to submit the registration documents to
EPFO?
Thanks,
Swathi
Swathi-1) YES. 2) In my view YES.
Hello Mr. Basavraj,
I am a 66 year old individual who took VRS in 2003. I have submitted 10D form for withdrawal of EPS after I completed 58 years age. But the EPFO has not yet given me the EPS. They have been giving some of the other reasons and totally I have submitted the form many times. I have been trying since last 8 years. Also they do not respond to any of my letters until I raise a grievance.
Now finally they are saying that my EPS of some of my years was not transferred to the right office. Finally I got that to done. Now after I have sent everything they are still not responding. I do not know how to raise a complaint and get my EPS. Please advice now I can withdraw my EPS without these many problems.
Ramesh-Whether you raised the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online?
Grievance has been raised on line to get my pension but I have not yet received my monthly pension. It’s been really long wait and I am frustrated with the wait. Can I take legal action going to consumers court for this.
Ramesh-If you are not satisfied with the service of EPFO, then you can opt for legal action.
HEY ,
I HAVE WORKED IN AN ORGANISATION FOR 2 YEARS .
I HAVE RESIGNED AND AM NOT CONSIDERING GETTING ME A NEW JOB .
I HAVE PLANNED TO WITHDRAW MY PF AMOUNT .
OH , YES – I AM 22 . SO , IS THEIR ANY WAY , I CAN WITHDRAW MY EPS BALANCE IMMEDIATELY ,
WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT TILL 58 ????
REALLY NEED SOME INFO ON THIS AND WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR HELP .
Sidharth-Yes you can withdraw EPS but it should be part of total balance (as per Table D).
Hi
What is the process of online transfer claim in the new EPFO portal?
What am I supposed to submit the signed claim form to my employer? Is it to be sent to the respective EPFO office ?
Riddhi-Using EPFO Unified portal you can do that.
I have submitted the signed form to my present employer. what is he supposed to do next? How he is supposed to do the attestation? is it to be done online or he has to send the form to the respective epfo office?
Riddhi-Let your employer process it.
Sir, my epf online claim current status is “CLAIM SETTLED”till date but yet not received amount …
please advise me
thanks
Ashish-From when the status is showing the same?
Sir,
For me also applied online PF advance.From past three days on wards the status showing as CLAIM SETTLED but till now the amount is not credited in my account.
Please advise me..
Thanks
Hi Anil,
It showed the same for me too. It will take atleast 7 – 10 days for it to show up in your Bank account. beyond that time frame, you may have to follow up with EPFO
Thanks
Anil-Please wait for another 2-3 days. If payment not settled then raise the issue with EPFO.
Hi Ashish,
My claim status also showing CLAIM SETTLED from past three days on wards..
Do you received the amount.
Thanks
Anil
WHILE THIS HAPPENED IN PAN REGISTRATION IN KYC HOW TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM.
Pan verfication failed. (Name against UAN does not match with the NAME in Income Tax Department)
Venu-You have to correct the name which is wrong and then try to link.
I authenticated aadhar still I am getting message please authenticate aadhar when tried to fill form 19 online plz suggest
Rakesh-I think it is not linked to your EPF. Do the same by visiting the concerned EPFO.
Hi Sir,
I have transferred by EPF amount from my previous employer to current employer through online .
However my EPS amount still not yet transferred to my current employers EPS account. Could you please tell me when this amount will get transferred to my current employers EPS account.
Also is there any form do we need to submit for transferring EPS amount to current employer EPS account?
Raghavendra-EPS never get transferred but EPFO just updates your service records.
Sorry sir I dint understand the above comment.
Correct me if I am wrong. Are you trying to say EPFO will just keep updating our service with all employer and at the time of our retirement i.e after 58 yrs will gave back this money in the form of pension or bulk amount.
Could you please tell me where can i see my eps amount of all employer till date from the date i started working.
Raghavendra-YES now your understanding is correct. Is it not visible in EPF Passbook? If not, then contact EPFO.
Dear Sir, I have a UAN number and is applying for Form 31 (Advance) for construction of House property from two or three days, but while entering Aadhar authentic OTP it is always showing “OTP mismatch error or Please try again later” each time. Please help
Vikas-It may be a procedural error. Either you try after some time or contact EPF directly.
I received PF final settlement amount today. Online withdrawal request was submitted on 26th July. So it hardly took 10 calendar days. Issues I faced with the tool (nothing after submission though) are already shared on this blog and elsewhere as appropriate.
My special thanks and gratitude to Mr. Basavaraj for putting up this page/blog which I’ve found very useful when I was groping in the dark.
Prasanna-Great to know this and thank for sharing your experience with all of us.
can we withdraw total amount or only part amount from epf through online UAN portal.
please confirm
Santosh-Partial is allowed in case of special requirement. Full is allowed when you no longer be in job.
Hi Basavaraj ji,
in my last company i have worked for 4.5 yrs and after that it suddenly got shut down. There is no employee whom i can contact there as the that company does not have any existence. I have applied to transfer the last pf fund to my new pf account of my present employer.The transfer has been done, but i have not received/tranferred the EPS amount ,which is more than 30,000/- . I want to withdraw that EPS amount. Please suggest me how can i do that.I am i urgent need of that amount.
Saha-EPS will never get transferred. EPFO will just update your service records. Hence, you no need to worry.
but i want to withdraw the eps amount. Pls suggest me the orocedure
Saha-Whether you withdrew EPF?
I have transferred my EPF to my new PF account (with new UAN). The EPS amount didnt get transferred which i want to withdraw.
Saha-EPS will never get transferred. Only the service records get updated.
How to withdraw that. i want to withdraw it immediately.
Saha-Explained the process in above post.
So whenever we resigned our current job and joined another company , we must have to transfer EPF, but we are allowed to withdrawn EPS ? is that my understanding correct ?
Yathisha-Whenever you change job, just provide your old EPF.
Hi Sir,
Recently I checked the status of my online claim for PF withdrawal and found that it was rejected.
Below reasons were given-
Reason of rejection: CERTIFICATE A/B/C/D/E/F NOT ENCLOSED / SIGNED
Remarks by DA/AO: IT IS REQUESTED TO SUBMIT THE SAME AFTER UPDATION OF REVISED ECR FOR PENSION CONT./OK
Could you please elaborate the reason of rejection.
I have done it through online process and why do the certificates need to be enclosed?
All they have asked in the online process was seeding of FORM-11,aadhar card, and bank details
Thanks,
Joshna
Joshna-I am not sure of what went wrong. I suggest you raise this issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
good evening basu ji
who fills date of joining date of exit details in epfo data base and can we enter our selves online
Rakesh-I am not sure but in my view employers.
Hi Rakesh,
It is done by the Employer. Just a couple of weeks back, I got the ‘Date of Exit’ updated by my ex-employer since until then only ‘partial withdrawal’ option was allowed and rightly so.
thank you so much prasanna
Hello Basu,
I was able to successfully do a online claim of my PF account on the UAN portal, however while checking the status yesterday, i see it was rejected with below reason.
Reason of rejection: PAYMENT NOT DEPOSITED BY THE EMPLOYER
Remarks by DA/AO:NO CONTB RECD FOR THE PERIOD 08/15 – 02/16. FORM 15G & PAN CARD TO BE SUBMITTED A/W PHYSICAL FORM/K
The period they mentioned above i was at onsite and then it started continuing once i was able in India. My Aadhaar, PAN and bank details are seeded..
What should i do next, should i approach EPF branch using a composite Aadhaar form for withdrawal along wiht form 15G? I assumed if the service is below 5 years and if PAN is submitted the TDS would be 10%.
Thanks,
Vivek
Vivek-It is a better option now to approach the concerned EPFO.
Dear Sir,
I have tried to submit online claim but the error stated that more than one ID’s linked to UAN. All accounts to be merged in single account before proceeding.
I have left one Pvt. Company 4 months back where I have worked approx. 3.5 years and joined new company from that time. I have given my previous UAN number in the new company.
I want to withdraw my previous company PF amount as I need money for higher study.
Please help to guide the process.
Much appreciate your valuable feedback. Thank you!!
Pawan-Use offline mode of withdrawal.
Thank you sir for the support.
I have some query for offline mode of withdrawal. please help: –
1. My UAN is active and linked to my Aadhar. All other information are correctly updated in EPFO records. Which form I can use to withdraw pf offline….. UAN based new form or the old form.
2. Does it attract TDS? Since my PAN is updated in EPFO and the pf contribution is for 3.5 years and val. is more than 2lac.
Looking forward for your support.
Hello Basu
I quit my job last year and have not yet claimed my PF.. I am currently working for my own startup and don’t have any PF running.
So i have everything that is mandatory on UAN member portal to do the withdrawal..
After filling the online form, validate it by Aadhaar OTP and then when i click on ‘Validate OTP and Submit’ I get a message
“Claim Is Not Submitted on portal,Please try again later”
Do you know what could be the reason..
Vivek-I am not sure what went wrong as it is purely procedural matter. Better you try after few hours, by clearing the cache or changing browser.
I am trying to submit withdrawal request online since thursday and continually get the same message.
“Claim Is Not Submitted on portal,Please try again later”
i feel they might have disabled the portal as there has been a holiday on friday and they did not want their work to pile up
Moses-Not sure.
I guess I will give it a shot during the business hours. I will share my findings.
Moses-Sure.
Did you give a try to the instructions I had shared in my comment dated – ‘July 26, 2017 at 12:26 PM’ ? I see that, it has worked for many others too.
Yes Prasanna I tried all that, I guess I will give it a shot during the business hours
I just happened to try final PF settlement option and I received the same error – “Claim Is Not Submitted on portal,Please try again later”. I’ll try again during business hrs tomorrow and also by clearing cache/switching to a diff browser as suggested above. Will update if it gets through.
Tried all the options listed above, but the issue persists. I’ve dropped a note to helpdesk.
Prasanna-Better to raise in EPFO Greviance Cell Online.
HI Prasanna,
I’m getting the same error and I was looking for threads that could help me. Were you able to process your claims. If yes, please share the mitigation steps you followed. Thanks much.
Mithun.
Hi Mithun,
I’ve already shared the updates on this blog. Pls refer to my comment dated – ‘July 26, 2017 at 12:26 PM’.
Hi Vivek,
As posted below, I had faced the same issue too. I tried clearing cache/cookies, switching to a different browser/machine but in vain. Today, on a hunch, I redistributed my address info on the 2 address fields ‘equally’ (earlier, first text box had much of the details while second box only had my village name) and that nailed it for me.
Hope, this could be of some help to you/others too.
Prasanna-Great to know and thanks for sharing this 🙂
It worked for me as well Thanks a lot Prasanna 🙂
Hi Prasanna,
Did you split the complete address mentioned on your Aadhar Card in equally in the “Street” and “Locality” Field (including commas, full stops and space)?
Thanks,
Hi Sir,
I have been working with same company since 16years and still working, I would like to withdraw my amount. out of Employee share, Employer share and Pension Amount how much amount I can withdraw online. Pls advice which form I need to submit and how much percentage I can withdraw out of Employee share,Employer share and pension amount.
Thanks
Rahul
Rahul-If you are in job, then you are not allowed to withdraw. But you can take advance for special cases like marriage, house purchase and illness.
how much amount I can take as an advance out of my Employee share, Employer share and pension fund. I am holding three shares totally 12lakhs.
out of that 12lakhs how much amount I can take an advance.please advise me.
Rahul-Refer my post “All about EPF (Employee Provident Fund) advance withdrawal“.
Aa per online request under form 31 (construction of house) min 1000 to max 500000 only showing, is it maximum amount 5Lakhs only I can with draw or what?
please advice me.
regards,
Rahul
Rahul-Refer my post “EPF withdrawal for house, flat or construction of property“.
when I checked online while filling form 31 under advance amount point it is showing Rs 1000 to Rs 5,00,000. As per ur link it is showing 90% Employee share with interest and Employer share with interest. in that case why not more than 5,00,000 not allowed.
Just answer and advice for my point. if u send me link there it will be general way.
Is it correct or not. while submitting online request form 31 it is shoeing maximum 5,00,000 ?
thanks in advance.
Rahul-I am trying to answer the same. The link I shared is of latest updates. If you have doubt over me, then you are free to contact EPFO.
I have applied online withdrawal on 21st July, till now its showing under process status. how Many days it will take to settle this online withdrawal process.
thanks
Rahul-It hardly takes more than 10 days. However, you must wait for their revert.
Hi,
I have applied online on 21st of July, but till now its not cleared. it is showing underprices status only as of now. its nearly 20 days over, as per your reply it should be done in 10 days time, what should I do now. please advise me.
thanks
Rahul-Knock EPFO using EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
basu ji when I try withdrawing online form 19 it gives a error aadhar is not authenticated
Rakesh-Then you have to update your Aadhaar either through an employer or by visiting the concerned EPFO Office.
sir my aadhar is already updated and its kyc list
Rakesh-Then I don’t think this error must come forward. You raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell online.
is PPO require in epf pension
Rakesh-PPO stands for?
pension payment order
Rakesh-I am not aware of that. Sorry.
hi basu sir. I want to know if I fill form 19 for final settlement am I gonna paid full amount I.e employer and employee contribution if yes then for pension epf will deduct amount from where if they credit entire amount
Siddharth-Your final settlement involves only Employee EPF Share+Interest on that and Employer EPF Share+interest on that. EPS will be payable to you based on the number of years you served.
on EPS part I will get paid according to no of years served and rest amount where it will go
Sidharth-It will be with EPFO.
is epfo deduct amount from pf contribution I.e employee contribution and employer cont for monthly pension to employees
Rakesh-Please understand how EPF works from my earlier post “Employee Provident Fund (EPF)-Changed rules from 1st Sept 2014“.
basu ji. please tell how to update missing details in epf online
Rakesh-EPF UAN Helpdesk is not working properly. Hence, you better do it through your employer.
Hi Basu,
Its nice article. Thanks for posting this.
I served with my company more than 10 years and resigned my job March 2016. I no longer working in India. I didn’t withdraw my EPF. I received my EPF statments from my previous employer for the year 2016-2017. In that TDS 10% is being deducted for the interest amount . Could you explain why TDS if I am not withdrawing my amount?
Total amount in EPF : 10 lakhs
Interest credited approx for this year : 86,000 RS
10 * TDS decuted : 8600 RS
Thanks in advance for your response.
Prasanna-In my case TDS is not at all an issue. Because first thing, your account is more than 5 years old and you have not withdrawn. But still TDS for what purpose they deducted I am not sure. Check with EPFO immediately.
Hi Basu,
I checked with my employer and received the below response. I am still not clear.. Will you please explain?
”
The interest on your PF balance as on 31st March 2017 will attract tax as per below income tax rule. ”
“Under Section 10 (12) of the Income Tax Act, the ‘accumulated balance’ due and becoming payable to an employee participating in a recognized provident fund during the tenure of his service, do not form part of total income.
The expression ‘accumulated balance’ is defined under Section 2 (f) of the Fourth Schedule – Part A, to mean the balance to the credit of an employee on the date he ceases to be an employee of the employer maintaining the fund. Thus the accumulated balance, is the sum of the amount of provident fund credited to the account of the employee during the tenure of the employment of a member.
The interest credited to the accumulated balance of an employee who has resigned or retired from his services, does not fall within the exceptions provided in Section 10 (12) or Section 8 of Part A of the Fourth Schedule, and is therefore to be treated as income liable to be taxed. The Company / Trust is therefore under the obligation to deduct tax at source from such interest under Section 194A of the Income Tax Act. ”
Thanks in advance for your time.
Hi Sir,
I would like to add one more point, I was under loss of Pay for an year between 2013 and 2014. Will it be considered as break in the service and treated as less than 5 years service? Is it the reason for tax on interest?
Best Regards
Prasanna
Prasanna-That may be considered as break. But what I am pointing is, you are not withdrawing the EPF means no question of taxation or TDS.
Prasanna-Here income liable for tax only when you realize it (withdraw it). Here, you are not withdrawing. Hence, no question of tax liability. You can file a complaint against your employer with EPFO and CBDT. They have to bend.
basu ji for offline withdrawal of epf money I.e form 19 claim is aadhar mandatory for withdrawal.
Rakesh-Yes, now it is mandatory.
When I request for transfer (after providing all KYC docs which are approved). I enter my UAN and click on get ,I get a message that No previous employment details found against this UAN. please help.
Arpita-I am not sure what went wrong. Better you contact EPFO Grievance Cell online.
HI Arpita,
Did you solve your issue. I am also getting same issue.
No previous employment details found against this UAN
Hello,
I was receiving the same error. I reached out to my previous employer and asked them to update EPFO site to reflect my Date of Exit. Once done, within seconds, I was able to submit the transfer request.
Amit-Great to know this 🙂
basu ji. I had submitted form 10d for pension after 1 month when I check my account amount credited bulk posting 60000 on 27 june 2017 and again on 30 june 2017 credited 2350 I want to know is 2350 is the pension I will get every month
Rakesh-I am not sure of such credit. Better you interact with EPFO.
How to get PF account number from my UAN no.? is it possible to get Sir?
Debashis-Yes, you can.
Thanks for your reply..Sir please guide me how to get PF account number from my UAN no?
Debashis-There is a link in EPFO portal to identify the same. If you are still unable to do so, then contact EPFO.
if i upload my pan number is seeing error it shows “Pan verification failed. (Name against UAN does not match with the NAME in Income Tax Department)” why how to solve the problem please help me. in my pan card name is VINOTH THANGAVEL bt why not upload this prob how to solve.
Vinoth-Whether there is a name difference? If so, then you have to correct it first.
In my company so many people having this problem how to solve the problem give me a idea please and nobody know how to solve this problem please guide me in this problem
Vinoth-There is no specific guidelines set by EPFO in this regard. Hence, I suggest you raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell online.
sir, in my uan pan not updated but aadhar and bank details are updated and approved in uan portal.can i apply pf withdrawal is eligible r not.
Vinoth-PAN approval a must.
Hi,
I have submitted online PF withdrawal form 31, It’s been over 45 days now its still showing as “online claim submitted at portal” does it usually take this long or should i visit nearest PF office and submit the from 31 again. Please Advice
Thank you in advance
Surya-Usually it not takes that much time. Hence, better you follow up with EPFO.
I have given application for PF claim online on June 19 th and when I check the status it is showing the claim is submitted on the portal. After online submission there is a printable form showing the summary of withdrawal request. Do I need to send this form to PF office or everything will be done just online?
Sarath-Not required.
Thanks brother. Its been more than one week and still the status is showing submitted on the portal. Do you have any idea how long it will take?
Sarath-It hardly takes more than 15-20 days.
I have updated my adhar no online. its been more then 2 motnhs. Its still showing in pending KYC. what should i do?
Ashok-Discuss the same with your employer.
Sir, I had a doubt. Could you please answer this query.
I had resigned on Aug 16,2016. The interest will be credited only up to the last transaction in the passbook or will it be credited(FY17) until I had withdrawn the amount?
Thank you in Advance!
Joshna-It will be credited to your account as long as you hold it without withdraw.
why is it risk to keep idle account for long because now interest will be given to every account am I right sir
Rakesh-Earlier there are scams with idle accounts. Now may be reduced. However, it is safe to track account cautiously.
Hi Sir,
I ll be quitting my organization by end of June.Post that I m flying to USA in July for my higher studies.
I have a registered UAN.
My company says that PF can be withdrawn only after 60 days of release.
Is there any way I can withdraw my PF& VPF amount quickly?I plan to use it for my education expenses.
Soumya-Your employer is right. You have to wait for 60 days.
Thank you Sir 🙂
In my case I ‘ll not be available in India after July and have no plans to return back soon .So how do I claim my PF& VPF amount.
Is there any way provision to initiate an online PF claim?Do I have to be present physically to claim my PF & VPF?Also will I need Employers help to initiate claim (any documentation ,seal,sign etc)
Request you to Kindly suggest me the best possible solutions for the above query.I also heard that the PF account might become inoperative if kept dormant.
Soumya-In that case you can inform the employer about the same (if possible in written) and submit the required forms.
Sir, my aadhaar number is wrong in my UAN portal. How can I edit it. I am not working currently. I relieved from my previous organisation before 1 year.
Senthil-Approach the concerned EPFO and rectify the same.
Sir, my concerned pf office is located in mumbai. Whereas I am from Chennai. My ex employer is not helping in this regard. I dont know what to do. Kindly help me in this regard.
Senthil-Raise the issue with EPFO using EPFO Grievance Cell online.
good morning basu ji. epf generally credits interest in the month end or any day of the month
Rakesh-It is yearly once.
once in a year I know. means they can credit any working day not specifically month end isn’t it sir
Rakesh-That is left with you and there is no such specific disclosure.
sir. I joined the organisation on the yr 1977 and retired on 2013 plz tell me what is the approx pension I will get avg salary 1995 onwards was 6500 for pension calculation. before 1995 I dont know the avg salary
Rakesh-Sir it is hard for me to calculate to an each individual.
I can understand sir. but before 1995 can u have the formula to calculate after 1995 it is avg salary *no of yrs ÷70
Rakesh-Sir refer this my earlier post “The complete guide to Employee Pension Scheme (EPS) 1995“.
basu ji. the epf interest is calculated on the last contributation or on total figure which is employee plus employer contribution full amount
Rakesh-Please refer my post “How EPF (Employees’ Provident Fund) interest is calculated?“.
basu ji I want to know the process of pension. means steps. concerned office send to epfo then what are the steps
Rakesh-Whether you are eligible for EPS pension?
yes sir. I want to know steps it goes through
Rakesh-In that case you have to get the scheme certificate. Refer the post “The complete guide to Employee Pension Scheme (EPS) 1995“.
what is scheme certificate
Rakesh-Refer the said EPS post.
basu ji currently the minimum pension is 1000. is there any chances of hike
Rakesh-Let us hope for the best 🙂
Hi,
I left my job last year Dec 2016 and applied for EPF withdrawal.
At the time of balance withdrawal I had 7 years of experience with different employers.
I always transferred my EPF balance from old employer RPFC to new employer RPFC.
Also I ad submitted Form15G at the time of filing the request with employer.
But now I see the RPFC has deposited the amount y deducting 10% from the amount I see in EPF updated passbook.
Please help what should I do now?
Vishal-If your EPF account is more than 5 years old, then they can’t deduct TDS. Raise the issue with EPFO Grievance Cell online.
I started my employment in Dec 2009
Switched employers below
2nd employer in May 2011
3rd employer in Dec 2013
4th employer in Mar 2015
left 4th employer in Sept 2016
My EPF account also changed for every switch and I made sure to transfer the EPF balance from previous employer to current employer.
But in case of 4th employer, they created a new UAN account for me instead of referring the UAN from 3rd employer. Now the EPF passbook shows the PF credit for 4th employer and balance transfer from 3rd employer.
I spoke to RPFC today and they said to submit documents to prove my balance transfers, I dont know what doc can prove/where to retrieve the same.
Vishal-I think they are referring to transfer 3rd to 4th. If so, then use OTCP.
Hi Sir,
I worked in a company for 3.5 Yrs , two month back i quit my job now not working, i hav 65k in my EPF account , want to apply for withdrew online but my doubt is will any tax deduction for online claim. all my pan, aadhar , kyc details where updated online and verified too,
my salary slab is 2 lac i have filled nil tax return can i opt for 15g declaration with manual UAN based EPF claim to avoid 10% TDS, kindly advice am i eligible for 15g declaration to avoid tax
Kumar-This income will be taxable for you as you have not completed 5 years. Just giving Form 15G to avoid TDS does mean that you avoided tax. Even if you submit Form 15G and avoided TDS means you have to pay the tax as per your income tax slab.
Hi Basu sir,
Interrupted you once again.
As this article is not relate to my question but i believe I will get solution here.
You helped me in pnb bank issue before.
My question is how much money I can get from my Exide life new fulfilled policy?
I have a bad experience, with customers support, no call no reply on mail, even not my advisor helps me.
I will complete 5 years in Aug this year and planning to withdraw my policy. I did not get even my bonus which is occurring 75K now on my Exide online account.
Can you please advice, what to do ?
I’m paying 25 K ever year, so till this Aug i would paid 125K.
Please advise
Sheaan-I am not sure of how much you get back if you surrender and none than the Exide Life will have to tell this to you. Hence, better you reach to their office and inquire. Instead of a call, emailing of taking help of an adviser, why not you reach physically to their office and get the information?
Hello
I am Unable to Update My Aadhaar Number in KYC Documents. It By default shows my UAN number there.
Abrar-Contact EPFO regional office or raise the issue online with EPFO Grievance Cell online.
What is the implication of the recent EPFO order No. Pension-I/12/33/EPS amendment/96/Vol.II Dated 23.03.2017 based on a decision of the Ministry of Labour & Employment (Ref. Press release dated 19.12.2016) and Hon’ble Supreme Court’s judgment in SLP No.3302-33033 of 2015, whereby a provision has been introduced for payment of pension on the basis of “actual salary instead of statury limit of Rs.15,000/-.
When is it going to be implemented and how this is going to be implemented in the case of exempted Trusts/Companies.
Bidyut-Let us wait for the action from EPFO.
as u said 10 yrs of service required for withdraw full amount. mine it is 30 yrs compleated in organisation. can u say sir from which yr its implemented
Rakesh-I am not saying about withdrawal EPS, but you can opt for pension.
sir. part of eps means. what percent we can withdrew of the total eps. this error is coming when I apply online
Rakesh-If you not complete 10 years of service then you are not allowed to withdraw EPS at full. They pay some % of it based on the tenure of your service.
sir. when I am applying 10c online withdrawal of pension then error is coming you have compleated 9.5 yrs of service less than 10 yrs sir how to claim then
Rakesh-You are allowed to withdraw the part of EPS but not full amount. Because of that may be you are getting an error. However, I don’t think they must show such error as one can withdraw EPS before completion of 10 years also.
basu ji. epfo interest calculated on total amount means total of employee contribution and employer contribution or any other process
Rakesh-It is on your and employer contribution but not on EPS.
that’s right but if the employee is retired from 3 yrs and his money still with epf he didnt withdrew and he nor employer contributes any more then his interest will be calculated on total lum sum money he has in epf. suppose he has 800000 total interest calculated on 8 lakhs?
Rakesh-Yes, this is what I am saying.
basu ji. epfo credits annual interest in which month and it reflects in passbook in which month
Rakesh-EPF accounting year starts from March and ends on February but interest will be credited on April every year. So they may update within a month or two.
thank u sir
epfo annual interest normally reflects in passbook when means which month
Rakesh-EPF accounting year starts from March and ends on February but interest will be credited on April every year.
why after aadhar seeded successfully its asking for update aadhar is there any error in their database plz clarify
Rakesh-None can confirm this.
hi
I have two UAN numbers (old company and current company), I did online PF transfer the old account to new account one month back but still its showing previous and present employer approval pending….. What can I do now?
i have submitted all the forms to my current company ,
Regards,
Sudha
Sudha-Let your older company approve it.
i need to contact my old company or they will approve ?
Sudha-They approve but if they NOT, then you have to approach your old company or the local EPFO.
December 30th-16 I resign from my last company and joined new company as 02-jan-17.
Total epf contribution is around 3 years. I have same UAN number in both the company.
Can i withdraw my PF amount via form 31 or advance (online /offline).
reason- marriage or medical
Jitendra-Your EPF account must complete 3 years, then only you are eligible for withdrawal. Refer this post “EPF withdrawal for house, flat or construction of property“.
Dear All, do you have any notification regarding the same.
Jeena-Check in EPFO portal.
Sir,
I worked for a Pvt Co. & had withdrawn the EPF. For FPS I have received a certificate.
Now I have joined second company having EPF & FPS, but my FPS is not transferred.
1. Whether I can transfer the FPS?
2. If yes, How?
3. Or I will have to wait for superannuation to get both the FPS?
4. The current FPS is in a different state (Jharkhand) than the first one (UP).
Regards.
bkscmehak-Your EPS will never get transferred. EPFO just update the service records.
aadhar is not linked to UAN portal they are error how to linked aadhar
bank passbook is linked
Dinesh-Refer my post “How to link Aadhaar to EPF using online and offline?“.
The error “AADHAAR is not authenticated from UIDAI. Please authenticate your AADHAAR by visiting nearest EPFO office.” while applying for Online PF withdrawal might be due to the name mismatch. Usually employers link Aadhar to UAN with name as shown in PAN card, there are cases where in the name sequence in PAN card is different than the one in Aadhar card (PAN card can have “Middle Name First Name Surname” while Aadhar has “First Name Middle Name Surname”). Try getting the KYC corrected from your employer.
The error happens to appear even if the name in Aadhar is same and is approved KYC list. This is something which no one is clear about and the only option is to visit them with the composite claim form (Aadhar based).
Waste of life..Pathetic implementation of a very good service…
Shame!!
Hi,
I have all the 3 KYC doen successfuly and its showing as my Bank account, Aadhar and PAN but it giving me the error “AADHAAR is not authenticated from UIDAI. Please authenticate your AADHAAR by visiting nearest EPFO office.”
Please suggest.
Aditya-Better you visit nearest EPFO and clear the dust.
I am also I tried to submit online claim, the error stated that the your aadhaar number is not authenticated pl go nearby epfo and authenticate the same. What will do, pl reply anybody known about this
Selvakumar-You have to link your Aadhaar before proceeding for withdrawal.
Hi Basavaraj,
Its was nice to read your blogs i have a doubt in my mind.
Can we transfer our EPF To NPS ?
Chetan-PFRDA announced the process. But the same is not activated from EPFO. We have to wait.
How is current EPF salary limit. 15000 or 21000
Valeed-It is Rs.15,000.
Online service activated for my account but as usual facing typical govt issue. It gives me error “Aadhar number not authenticate by UIDAI. Please visit nearest EPFO office.” Then I tried for again updating Aadhar number then it show error “temporary facing Aadhar server issue” Dont know why these babu logs create problem in every good initiative.
Sandesh-It is mainly due to UDAI server. You have to try for some more times.
Its the same issue with me and other colleagues here!!.
Well, have tried it 10-30 times and still the same error. WHY? can’t they think and make something simple..is it coz giving out our money is a pain in their ***?
Could you please let us know any other way apart from physical visit to the EPFO office?
Kiran-That is the ONLY way.
As per social networking sites, majorly all people are facing same issue. Hope govt will take some action.
Sandesh-Yes, it is common issue and I hope they resolve soon.
Hello Basu,
What if there is difference between EPF date of joining and EPS Date of joining?
Kiran-I don’t think it can happen. Has it happened with you?
No option to withdraw when login to EPFO. My KYC is already done and Aadhaar is also linked.
Lokendra-Wait for the update of the portal.
Dear Sir,
I applied to withdrawal to PF & EPS amount on 30th may-19. I have got PF amount but still waiting for EPS amount. Pls suggest.
Thanks
Vajid Ali
Dear Vajid,
You have to wait.
Pl share the links for reaching the UAN sites and I did not find any menu tabs for withdrawl in the UAN portal
Prasad-I will update the same once they provide the link. I am also awaiting.
Respected Sir,
I have worked in Accenture for 3.5 yrs and then switched to another company bt worked there only for 3 months. I have already claimed the epf amount from the latest employer pf account without merging the old pf account. After this I merged the old pf account with the latest employer. Now total pf amount credited in new pf account . UAN is same for both the account. Now I am trying to withdraw the pf amount as well as Eps amount , but it get rejected with the error message-EPS erroneously remitted.
Please suggest me the solution .I will be thankful to you.
Thanks
Dear Alok,
Hard to predict. Better you raise an issue with EPFO Grievance Cell Online.
Great News..thanks for the info Basu.
My account number uploaded by my previous employer in in correct and my withdrawal was rejected.
What should I do?
Ashok-What reasons they quoted for rejection?