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LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845) -Features, Benefits and Review

May 13, 2017by Basavaraj Tonagatti

LIC will be launching one more new plan from 16th May 2017. This plan is called as LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845). This is the typical whole life plan.

LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845) is a non-linked, with-profits, whole life assurance plan. This plan is the replica of the old closed plan of LIC (Jeevan Tarang Plan No. 178).

Features and Eligibility of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

Let us first see the eligibility of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845).

Eligibility of LIC's Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

You notice one thing from above image, even though the age of maturity is fixed as 100 years, the maximum for entry in all cases is 70 years. So the assumption from LIC about life expectancy is 70 years.

Date of commencement of risk in LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

If age of Life Assured is less than 8 years on date of buying the policy, the risk under this plan will start either one day before the completion of 2 years from the date of commencement of the policy or one day before the policy anniversary coinciding with or immediately following the completion of 8 years of age, whichever is earlier. For Life assured aged 8 or more,

This means, let us say the Life Assured age is 5 years, the life risk will start one day before the completion of 2 years from the date of commencement of the policy (when the life assured is at the age of 7 years) of one day before the policy anniversary coinciding with or immediately following the completion of 8 years of age, whichever is earlier. But in this case, the risk will commence at the age of 7 years only.

Let us say the Life Assured age is 7 years, in this case, the life risk start immediately following the completion of 8 years of age.

For Life assured aged 8 or more, the risk will commence immediately.

Benefits of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

In this plan, you will be eligible for three types of benefits. One is at the time of death, the second type is survival benefit and another one is maturity benefit. Let us discuss one by one.

Death Benefits of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

# If death occurs before the commencement of Risk

An amount equal to the total amount of premium/s paid without interest shall be payable

# If death occurs after the commencement of Risk

Death Benefit, defined as the total of “Sum Assured on Death” and bonus and Final Additional Bonus (FAB), if any will be payable.

Meaning of Sum Assured on Death is defined as the highest of

  • -10 times of annualized premium or
  • – Sum assured on Maturity or
  • -Absoluannualizedassured to be paid on death ie Basic Sum Assured

The death benefit will not be less than 105% of all the premiums paid as on date of Death. Premium referred here will not include any taxes, extra premium charged due to underwriting decision and rider premiums.

Survival Benefits of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

On the life assured surviving to the end of the premium paying term and all the premiums in policy have been paid, a survival benefit equals to 8% of Basic sum assured (BSA) shall be payable each year.

First survival benefit will be paid at the end of the premium paying term and thereafter on completion of each subsequent year till life assured survives or policy anniversary prior to the date of maturity, whichever is earlier.

Maturity Benefits of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

If policy holder survived till the policy term, and have paid all premiums timely, then LIC will pay Sum Assured on Maturity+Bonus+Final Additional Bonus (FAB).

Here, Sum Assured on Maturity is equal to Basic Sum Assured (BSA).

Let me explain the same with the help of below image.

Benefits of LIC's Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

Note below points-

  • During premium paying term, you will not receive any benefits. If death occurs during this period, your nominee will receive Sum Assured+Bonus+FAB.
  • Once the premium paying term completes, then you will receive 8% of Sum Assured till the maturity period or death of the policy period.
  • If policyholder survives till the term of the policy, then again at the end he will receive Sum Assured+Bonus+FAB.

Other Features and benefits of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

# Premium paying modes- Yearly, Half-yearly, Quarterly, and Monthly (Monthly mode is only available with SSS and NACH mode).

# Policy can be surrendered during the policy term provided at least 3 full year premiums have been paid.

# Loan Facility-You can avail loan after completion of 3 policy years and up to premium paying term. The maximum loan payable is a) Up to 90% of surrender value in force policies b) Up to 80% of surrender value in paid up policies.

# Free look period-15 days available from the date of receipt of policy bond if the policyholder is not satisfied with the “Terms and Conditions” of the policy.

# Assignment-As per Sec.38 of Insurance Act 1938 allowed. Nomination required as per Sec.39 of Insurance Act 1938.

# Lapse Policy revival-You can revive the policywithin 2 years from First unpaid premium (FUP).

How much is the return from LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)?

For this purpose, I considered the values as below.

Age of Policy Holder-30 Yrs.

Sum Assured-Rs.2,00,000.

Premium Paying Term (PPT)-30 Yrs.

Policy Term=100 Yrs-30 Yrs=70 Yrs.

Premium-Rs.6,621 (Inclusive of tax).

Bonus Rate-Rs.50 per Rs.1,000 per year. I considered this value as this plan exactly matches the LIC’s old plan Jeevan Tarang.

Final Additional Bonus-Rs.3,550 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured (Remember that it is the one-time payment, payable at maturity or death).

The results are as below.

LIC's Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845) Illustration

You notice that up to 30 years of a term, he will pay Rs.6,621 as premium. From 31 year, he will receive the survival benefit at the rate of 8% till maturity. Again on maturity, he will be eligible to receive the Sum Assured+Bonus+FAB.

I considered as if the policy holder survive until the age of 70 years. However, if we consider that he dies before attaining the age of 70 years, then the returns will be less than what he invested.

Even though it looks too attractive that you have to pay up to 30 years and from 31st year onward to 70 years 8% GUARANTEED return and again if you survive till maturity, then one more time you receive the benefit.

But you calculate using the IRR function of excel sheet (which is the way to calculate your return on investment), it shows just 5.26% returns.

Review of LIC’s Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

My take on this plan is SIMPLE and will point down as below.

  • This is the combination of whole life plan and money back plan. Hence, premium looks cheaper than the regular endowment or money back plans. But this plan bears its own risk of holding the plan at the long term.
  • Returns are pathetic. As I explained from above sheet, the return will hover around 5% to 6%. So do you feel it a great investment?
  • This is the not the pure whole life plan. Hence, you will not enjoy the higher bonus rate (for whole life plans LIC offers the bonus rate of Rs.70 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured). But this is the replica of LIC’s old closed plan Jeevan Tarang, whose bonus rate is not more than Rs.50. Hence, if your agent lures you as if the HIGH bonus policy as this is the whole life plan, then simply ignore that suggestion.
  • Buying a term insurance with a simple product like PPF will generate you more return than this plan. Then why to stick to it for so long?
  • Taxation is the major motive point for many of us to invest in such products. But do remember that the products I recommended as an alternative to this plan will have same tax benefits as this plan.
  • Liquidity is the biggest concern with such plans. Hence, better to stay away.
  • If at all your concern is looking for cheapest insurance cover and reliable insurance company, then why not buy the term insurance from LIC itself? NO risk at all for many to buy term insurance with LIC and invest in PPF.

Hope my review will benefit about taking your decision on this plan.

Category: Insurance PlanningTag: LIC's Jeevan Umang (Plan No.845)

About Basavaraj Tonagatti

Basavaraj Tonagatti is the man behind this blog. He is SEBI Registered Investment Adviser who is practicing Fee-Only Financial Planning Process and also an Independent Certified Financial Planner (CFP), engaged in blogging since 7 years. BasuNivesh blog is ranked as one among India's Top 10 Personal Finance Blog. He is not associated with any Financial product/service provider. The purpose of this blog is to "Spread personal finance awareness and make them to take informed financial decisions." Please note that the views given in this Blog/Comments Section/Forum are clarifications meant for reference and guidance of the readers to explore further on the topics/queries raised and take informed decisions. These should not be construed as investment advice or legal opinion."

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Comments

  1. Lidwin

    January 22, 2020 at 9:41 AM

    Can you please suggest a good investment option. I was thinking of a mutual fund and a term plan but can’t decide which ones to go for? Which are the best mg and term plan options available currently?

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      January 23, 2020 at 1:50 PM

      Dear Lidwin,
      Hard to say BLINDLY.

      Reply
  2. Santoshkumar

    January 7, 2020 at 4:44 AM

    Sirji,
    Now days banks are distributing house loan and they got return@8percent,Then why the bank s don’t invest in mutual funds for more returns.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      January 7, 2020 at 7:44 AM

      Dear Santoshkumar,
      Lending is ASSURED RETURN but not MUTUAL FUNDS.

      Reply
  3. Ck

    December 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM

    Thank you for the article. Looking at the comments, it seems I am late to the party 😉
    I ended up reading about this while looking to secure a guaranteed annual income. This plan gives me corpus and risk but for me, like for most people, these are already covered by MF/PPF and term plan+ previous LIC policies, respectively.
    Would you suggest any alternative (LIC or otherwise) which helps me to plan for pension more rather than getting other benefits which I have already planned for separately and can expand upon as needed. Essentially, max pension for the amount I will be putting in for next 20-25 years.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      December 27, 2019 at 6:02 PM

      Dear CK,
      Recommendation depends on analyzing your financial life. The blind recommendation is dangerous to you.

      Reply
  4. Akshit

    December 25, 2019 at 6:22 PM

    Hi Basavaraj – I really like the content you jot down bcz I was unable to figure out the cons in this policy so it’s good to hear the same. But I did a few calculations from which I was unable to figure out an alternative instrument from where I get ~6.5 – 7% interest after taxation.

    Based on the cash sum (surrender amount) quotation I got from a LIC agent I found below no’s (current age – 27yrs):

    IRR (at age – 40 yrs) 1.77%
    IRR (at age – 50 yrs) 6.81%
    IRR (at age – 60 yrs) 7.41%
    IRR (at age – 70 yrs) 6.88%
    IRR (at age – 80 yrs) 6.09%

    URL to my calculations – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rmcm7HX8T1Wv6LBdclNnGuesToO8Qu_JbGIHxDu58Tc/edit#gid=0

    I am considering this as a pure investment not life insurance (took Tech Term Plan from LIC for it) but couldn’t figure out an alternative investment instrument to this.

    It would be really great if you can please help me with your suggestions bcz I won’t get EEE benefits from PPF above Rs1.5L investments which I can get from this plan.

    PS: I earn ~Rs 30L annual income so want to have some safe investment as well apart from MF

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      December 25, 2019 at 9:58 PM

      Akshit,
      Unable to find the safe products? What about PPF or tax free bonds?

      Reply
      • Akshit Agarwal

        December 25, 2019 at 10:20 PM

        Sorry I was referring to risk-free investment instruments. I already invest 1.5L/yr in PPF (don’t invest more as it’ll attract tax on it) & some amounts in T-bills but don’t know about tax-free bonds (EEE) which can make me earn more/equal amount that this scheme (Jeevan Umang)

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          December 25, 2019 at 11:14 PM

          Dear Akshit,
          You are not allowed to invest more than Rs.1.5 lakh in PPF. It is not because it will attract tax but the maximum limit in PPF is that much. LIC policies are illiquid in nature. How you manage your asset allocation with respect to your goal time horizon? How you liquidate and rebalance again? There are many safe ways to look for liquidity and safety. You just have to explore the ideas.

          Reply
          • Akshit Agarwal

            December 26, 2019 at 12:36 AM

            Yeah, I got confused about the PPF thing. Also, I agree that LIC policies are illiquid in nature considering that for the next 20yrs I can’t take out my money otherwise it’s a waste.

            Asset allocation:
            MF (70%) [majorly long term >5yrs] ; PF/EPF (10%) [tax saving], FDs/T-bills/G-Sec (10%) [liquid asset] ; Bank (10%)

            Liquidate & Rebalance: Not done frequently.

            Can you please point me to the right policy or financial instrument for better liquidity & safety so I don’t have to take this Jeevan Umang policy and build the same kind of plan myself by investing on my own terms.

            Reply
            • Basavaraj Tonagatti

              December 27, 2019 at 9:16 AM

              Dear Akshit,
              Use EPF (even VPF) as debt part of your retirement goal and PPF for other goals debt part. Keep around 10% to 25% in either Liquid or Arbitrage Funds to make sure that asset allocation should be easy. No need of any extra product.

              Reply
              • Akshit

                January 4, 2020 at 5:53 PM

                Thanks a lot Basavaraj, VPF is good never thought about it seriously but now read about it & seems like a v good instrument from the retirement perspective.

                Also, I’ll figure out liquid & arbitrage funds as you pointed.

                Reply
                • Akshit

                  January 4, 2020 at 5:56 PM

                  Thank you for helping me out in this as now I am convinced that Jeevan Umang doesn’t make sense bcz IRR that I’ll get in it at age of 60 will be the same in EPF/VPF & it’ll be consistent across years so I have option to withdraw it anytime after 5 yrs.

                  Reply
                • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                  January 5, 2020 at 9:56 AM

                  Dear Akshit,
                  Sure.

                  Reply
    • Mahesh

      August 6, 2020 at 9:08 AM

      Don’t get confused….Here is guarantee for life….It’s a biggest benefit, that gives you peace of mind for life….

      Reply
      • Basavaraj Tonagatti

        August 6, 2020 at 12:43 PM

        Dear Mahesh,
        GUARANTEE at what cost??

        Reply
  5. Mukesh

    November 13, 2019 at 10:33 PM

    I want to invest 1,00,000 for 10 to 15 years..after that i want income starting from 11th or 16th year onwards for rest of my life..so tell me which plan is better for me.if lic Jeevan Umang is not better

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      November 16, 2019 at 9:56 AM

      Dear Mukesh,
      Hard to say which is BEST without knowing much about your financial life.

      Reply
  6. Pratham

    November 12, 2019 at 12:12 PM

    Is this discussion still active in 2019 end? LIC is gonna close Jeevan Umang and other plans (so i’ve heard) and the slab structures will change. Based on this any comments?

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      November 12, 2019 at 2:52 PM

      Dear Pratham,
      LIC closing and re-opening the products to tweak as per IRDA new regulations. Hence, it hardly changes even if they launch newly. I have same opinion.

      Reply
  7. Shantanu Kumar

    September 29, 2019 at 7:27 PM

    Dear Mr Basavaraj, greetings,
    You do consider the risk cover that the policy provides, life cover till 99 years of age, after the premium paying years are over, the insured gets annual tax free payouts, approx equal to his premium paid every year, till the insured survives, and death benefits to the nominee in case of death of the insured, well, life insurance should never be viewed as an investment product, it should be viewed with respect to its risk cover right ?? To me the policy seems ok, with respect to risk cover and annual payouts, if you consider this bad, WHAT OTHER OPTION DO YOU HAVE IN MIND, if I may ask.
    This policy is similar to HDFC LIFE sanchay plus plan, with few differences, but you have ridiculed both of these policies, do you suggest a better plan which could be flawless, please enlighten us !!!

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      October 1, 2019 at 6:22 AM

      Dear Shantanu,
      DO YOU NEED LIFE RISK COVERAGE up to 99 years of your age? Just because of TAX-FREE you are running behind this product, but what about inflation? Anyhow, if it is BEST for you, then please go ahead and god bless you 🙂 For me always a simple strategy-NEVER COMBINE INSURANCE WITH INVESTMENT.

      Reply
  8. Akhil

    September 4, 2019 at 10:54 PM

    Hello sir
    I am an LIC agent, whether its beneficial to me to invest in jeevan umang..
    I have explained my clients regarding irr offered by lic and they are interested still.
    I want taxfree return for over 8 % yearly investment 3 lakhs
    , where to invest

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      September 5, 2019 at 7:06 AM

      Dear Akhil,
      Do think this product gives you more than 6% returns?

      Reply
  9. dilip oswal

    May 12, 2019 at 3:26 PM

    sir i think you are totally against of Investment in LIC OF INDIA, MEANS TO BUY LIC POLICIES.Everybody knows in LIC we do not get more than 5 to 6 per cent.but it is for us compulsory savings and family provision.In term insurance we do not get any return and it is only upto 70 years

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 12, 2019 at 6:08 PM

      Dear Dilip,
      I am not against LIC. I love certain products like their online term life insurance or their immediate annuity plans. Who said that it is COMPULSORY that LIC is the only way you can do it. Change your mind and you find many many best products than LIC policies.

      Reply
  10. dilip oswal

    May 12, 2019 at 3:18 PM

    what if i buy this policy for my say ten years old son,he will start getting two lac for twenty five lakh policy

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 12, 2019 at 6:09 PM

      Dear Dilip,
      Do you need INSURANCE for your teenage kid?

      Reply
  11. Vinod

    May 6, 2019 at 1:44 PM

    It is difficult to understand the LIC pension plan.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 6, 2019 at 1:47 PM

      Dear Vinod,
      In that case better to visit the concerned branch.

      Reply
  12. Sangeetha

    March 20, 2019 at 2:24 PM

    I showed this article to lic agent suggesting this plan but he says the bonus rates announced are far higher than expected and would yeild average ?70 * SA (includes survival benefit,SRB,DB and FAB).Please explain this with latest bonus rates announced.(its a very confusing table which they have given).

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      March 21, 2019 at 9:23 AM

      Dear Sangeetha,
      This is where they play the game. Let him show a plan where currently LIC is offering more than Rs.55 bonus rate (except whole life plan). Rest left with you to decide.

      Reply
      • Sangeetha

        March 21, 2019 at 12:35 PM

        But sir this is a whole life plan, if you can help me with illustration?

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          March 21, 2019 at 4:17 PM

          Dear Sangeetha,
          I am saying the whole life Plan No.5, but not this one.

          Reply
  13. Priya Zanwar

    March 17, 2019 at 12:08 AM

    Hi Sir
    Please help me How to calculate FAD for Jeevan Umang

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      March 18, 2019 at 9:53 AM

      Dear Priya,
      Refer above post properly. It is simple using the Excel Formula of XIRR.

      Reply
  14. Vishwanath

    August 21, 2018 at 6:54 PM

    Basu, thanks a lot for your detailed review of this product. Much appreciated. I’m 41 and with a Sum Assured of 1 Cr, I would pay a premium for 15 years (8 lakhs p.a) and after 15th year I receive 8 lakhs p.a until 70 years and at the end of 70 yrs, I surrender and receive 4.5 Cr. This yields an IRR of 7.4%. Dont you think it would be a better product considering the bank deposit rates at 6.75% currently and this also gives a sort of an assured pension when I reach 56 yrs and offers life cover until 71 or even later (until 99) if i desire to keep the policy unlike a term insurance which gives until 70 yrs. Would you consider this as a good product if the IRR is at 7.4%?

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      August 21, 2018 at 9:17 PM

      Dear Vishwanath,
      I have few questions to you.
      1) Do you need LIFE INSURANCE during your retirement?
      2) For many of us, TODAY the standard life insurance cover we are looking is Rs.1 Cr. May I know the value of this when you turn 70 years?
      3) Now, regarding returns part, I am not sure on what basis you arrived at 7.4% returns. Even if we assume that your calculation is CORRECT, then is it worth to consider 7.4% the BEST return for your 15 years investment?? However, if you are OK with this return (NEGATIVE REAL RETURN), THEN GO AHEAD and INVEST.

      Reply
  15. Adv Arun

    August 2, 2018 at 8:39 PM

    I have adopted this policy at the age of 27 for 20 years sum assured is 2500000 and paying premium I know that after the maturity I will receive 8% of the sum assured I receive that amount after the maturity and after sometime I want to discontinue it or are you can say that I want to surrender it at the age of 60 because Who knows that we can live 100 yrs six years also but I am making an assumption in a good way so I am thinking about if I want to surrender this policy at the age of 60 then what will be the surrender value I received at that age

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      August 2, 2018 at 9:06 PM

      Dear Adv,
      Do you feel the sum assured covered under this plan will be sufficient coverage? Also, if you feel the returns of around 5% to 6% are best for you, then go ahead.

      Reply
      • Adv Arun

        August 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM

        Hey

        See every want more from his input me also but the point is that I know I won’t be able to live hundred years , if I do so then also I want to surrender the policy at the age of 60 so I just want to confirm After getting 2 Lakha per year at the time of maturity till the age of 57 or 60 yrs of age and then I surrender my policy what will be the total value or approximately will I receive at that time under Jeevan Umang plan.

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          August 3, 2018 at 11:37 AM

          Dear Arun,
          Whether you did a calculation like what is XIRR of your money invested? How long can you sustain with that paltry Rs.2 lakh a year after you turn 60 years?

          Reply
  16. Phani Pogaru

    June 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM

    In the above calculation you need to subtract equivalent term insurance premium and then arrive at IRR then it makes sense. Just putting premium as investment and calculating IRR is completely wrong.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      June 21, 2018 at 6:44 PM

      Dear Phani,
      Do you think this will differentiate the IRR when the term insurance premiums are at a damn cheap rate? It hardly differentiates even if you consider also. You can try and let me know also 🙂

      Reply
  17. Ram

    June 19, 2018 at 5:02 PM

    Hello Sir, I am 42 and bought Jeevan Umang in 2017. Sum assured 7.5L. I paid 2 premiums, 2017 and 2018 so far. What i will get if i surrender after paying another premium in 2019 ?

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      June 19, 2018 at 7:53 PM

      Dear Ram,
      It is hard to say. Better to contact the LIC Branch for the same.

      Reply
  18. Munna kumar

    April 6, 2018 at 8:38 PM

    Basu sir,
    Can I surrendered it anytime i.e during PPT or during SB period before maturity or death.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      April 6, 2018 at 9:01 PM

      Munna-Yes, you can.

      Reply
  19. Ryan

    April 1, 2018 at 11:25 AM

    Hello Basu,

    Thanks for a detailed explanation. I’m 30 years old and I’ve been wanting to purchase an insurance policy and wondering if I should go for a term Or a whole life insurance? Should I go for a pure term or the ones with moneyback guarantee / endowment policies etc? Whats your recommendation ? And, What’s your take on the lic eterm?

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      April 1, 2018 at 6:58 PM

      Ryan-If you are looking for INSURANCE, then why you are going for a product which combines INSURANCE+INVESTMENT?

      Reply
      • Ryan

        April 1, 2018 at 8:09 PM

        Hello Basu,

        Thanks for replying. I’m not looking for investment or moneyback etc. I’m looking for a pure term plan. What do you recommended as the best policy in this case?

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          April 1, 2018 at 9:38 PM

          Ryan-Then buy pure online term plan ONLY.

          Reply
  20. vilas

    March 22, 2018 at 10:21 AM

    Can u share calculation for 20 Year Old person for 15 years of premium paying sum assured 25L and life expectancy of 75 years and 45 years Old for 15 years of premium paying term for SA of 50L with life expectancy of 75. Does IRR Change?

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      March 22, 2018 at 1:13 PM

      Vilas-Refer above calculation and do it in excel. It may slightly change.

      Reply
      • Vinod

        March 26, 2018 at 5:34 PM

        How did you arrive at 710000 as FAB in above example. And Is the rate per thousand read as INR 33.50 or INR 3350. ?

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          March 27, 2018 at 6:55 AM

          Vinod- Refer above post and image properly for the same.

          Reply
  21. Shrish Patil

    October 12, 2017 at 8:12 PM

    Dear Basavaraj, it’s always a pleasure to read your views on investments and money. Some readers have responded angrily to your posts (regarding LIC). It is OK and it is very good on your part to have replied logically to them. Readers should take a decision based on THEIR understanding and not on anybody else’s recommendation. It is true that what was huge money (50K) for which I had an insurance policy for decades is pittance now. We have to live with our decisions- good and bad.
    Keep providing your insights. Thank you.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      October 13, 2017 at 6:49 AM

      Shrish-Thanks for your views and accepting mine. But in reality, the anguish individuals are not readers but the agent community.

      Reply
  22. Vinay

    September 18, 2017 at 7:26 PM

    Dear Basavaraj,
    Your explanation is indeed simple and straight forward. Thank you.

    I am 40 years and am looking for a GUARANTEED pension programme to start at the age of 50 (max 55). Can you pls suggest few plans from your expertise?

    Regards,
    Vinay

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      September 18, 2017 at 8:12 PM

      Vinay-Jeevan Akshay VI.

      Reply
      • Vinay

        September 27, 2017 at 5:37 PM

        Thank you very much, Basavaraj. Have gone through details of Akshya 6. Its good for people who wants to start annuity immediately. But me being at 40 years, I want annuity only at 50 or 55. Till then, I can invest on yearly basis. Taking this stand, can you pls tell me which one is the best pension guaranteed plan in India, dear?

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          September 27, 2017 at 6:19 PM

          Vinay-Sadly NONE such GUARANTEED PLANS neither in India nor across the world. Try to accumulate the same then by doing proper asset allocation between debt and equity for such long term goals through equity mutual funds and PPF or debt products of mutual funds.

          Reply
          • Vinay

            October 2, 2017 at 5:01 PM

            Thanks for the help. Cheers and take care.

            Reply
  23. Pradeep

    September 11, 2017 at 1:59 PM

    Sir
    If u want to take pension plan then take LIC jeevan akshya vi
    Here it’s a single premium plan
    It’s a very nice plan
    Once u have taken then ur interest rate is fixed and it ‘ll stable for whole life ….

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      September 12, 2017 at 6:53 AM

      Pradeep-“ur interest rate is fixed and it ‘ll stable for whole life”-In which plan?

      Reply
      • Pradeep

        September 15, 2017 at 9:59 PM

        Jeevan Akshya 6 pension plan Once taken whatever interest rates is at present that is fix for whole life…

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          September 16, 2017 at 6:45 AM

          Pradeep-Yes, that I KNOW. But what about the taxation and how it protects the inflation?

          Reply
          • Pradeep

            September 16, 2017 at 10:27 AM

            It’s taxable according to slab rates and those who had taken earlier version as this is the 6th version they r getting 12-10% till now whereas today the bank rates is quite low, in the long run this plan is beneficial as country develops rates would be further slashed.

            Reply
            • Basavaraj Tonagatti

              September 16, 2017 at 4:26 PM

              Pradeep-They are getting 12%-10% same way who booked FDs during that high-interest rate regime.

              Reply
              • Pradeep

                September 16, 2017 at 10:20 PM

                Well those customers who had taken jeevan akshya still they are getting the same rate of interest ok

                Reply
                • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                  September 17, 2017 at 8:10 AM

                  Pradeep-But what about the interest rate and inflation during that period? What if we consider both and arrive at today’s value of money?

                  Reply
                  • pradeep

                    September 22, 2017 at 8:48 PM

                    well sir in 1990 bank interest rate was 14% at that time lic jeevan akshya interest rate was 12% but still that customer is getting the 12% even today whereas bank interest is fallen down drastically…………ok

                    Reply
                    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                      September 23, 2017 at 7:31 AM

                      Pradeep-Correct!! But how much he invested at that time and whether he is now able to survive NOW when we compare the value of goods and services from 1990s to 2017??

  24. Yash Sharma

    September 3, 2017 at 4:36 PM

    Sir,
    Which is the best endowment policy currently being offered by LIC?

    Also, Please suggest any Endowment policy from any private bank to look out for.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      September 3, 2017 at 9:44 PM

      Yash-Whether you are looking for INSURANCE or INVESTMENT?

      Reply
      • Yash Sharma

        September 4, 2017 at 10:43 AM

        A policy which insures me plus gives a good amount of return on maturity

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          September 4, 2017 at 2:23 PM

          Yash-I need the numbers in case of INSURANCE and GOOD RETURN. Define both of them in terms of numbers of how much you need.

          Reply
  25. Sunny

    August 29, 2017 at 9:34 PM

    Dear Basu,
    My age now is 38 years. I am planning to retire at 50 years. I am planning for a pension of atleast Rs 50k per month. So which specific plans should i opt for. Dont want to have a lot of risk. Right now i have not invested in anything.
    thank you.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      August 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM

      Sunny-Stay away from any plans which are sold as PENSION or RETIREMENT plans. Accumulate on your using mutual funds and other debt products. If you are unable to do that, then take the help of a planner.

      Reply
  26. Vinod Kumar

    July 27, 2017 at 5:45 PM

    Hello Sir,

    This is regarding Jeevan Umang plan.
    1. It is guaranteed 8% after 15/20/25/30 investment in LIC
    2. What is Maturity amount.
    3. In case of happening (death) what will be the return in between Policy term and after the Policy term

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      July 27, 2017 at 5:49 PM

      Vinod-Please refer above post properly. Your all doubts are already answered.

      Reply
  27. pragn

    June 10, 2017 at 3:35 PM

    Hi Basu,

    You have mentioned in your post;

    “Note below points-

    During premium paying term, you will not receive any benefits. If death occurs during this period, your nominee will receive Sum Assured+Bonus+FAB.
    Once the premium paying term completes, then you will receive 8% of Sum Assured till the maturity period or death of the policy period.
    If policyholder survives till the term of the policy, then again at the end he will receive Sum Assured+Bonus+FAB.”

    Que.- If policyholder survives till the term of the policy, then again at the end he will receive Sum Assured+Bonus+FAB.” But, If policy holder will not survive after after completion of premium paying term

    In that case, how much their nominee will get??

    Thanks in advance.

    Reply
    • DULAL GOPE

      June 12, 2017 at 11:33 AM

      Death Benefits after commencement of Risk : Sum Assured on death Along with vested simple reversionary bonus & Final Additional bonus if any shall be payable.where sum assured on death defined as highest of
      1) 10 times annualized premiums or Sum assured on Maturity
      2 absolute amount assured to be death i.e basic Sum Assured
      this benefits shall not less than 105% of all premiums paid on date of death.
      if Accidentally death occur nominee will received Sum assured + bonuses+final additional bonus+equal to sum assured amount .

      Reply
      • Basavaraj Tonagatti

        June 12, 2017 at 12:06 PM

        Dulal-I already replied in simple term 🙂

        Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      June 12, 2017 at 11:55 AM

      Pragn-In that case the Sum Assured+Bonus (accumulated as on date)+FAB (if any).

      Reply
      • pragn

        June 12, 2017 at 12:39 PM

        all good. thank u so much

        Reply
  28. Atul Kulkarni

    June 7, 2017 at 2:01 PM

    Hello Mr. Basu,

    Thanks for this analysis. It is really useful and as pointed out earlier – your simple ways of explanation is very important for people like me. I had just one doubt in the calculation. While calculating IRR, should we consider the 16 K which the person is receiving from 31st year in your example? Would it have any significant impact on IRR?

    Thanks Again
    Atul Kulkarni

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      June 7, 2017 at 5:42 PM

      Atul-I calculated the IRR by considering that survival benefit of 8% guaranteed.

      Reply
  29. Shailesh Sharma deoghar

    May 18, 2017 at 3:08 PM

    The plan is good.but I searched this type of plan in other insured company.lfound that lic’s jeevan umang is less profitable plan.tbe plan that i searched is giving more benefits like 1.when premium paying term.is over the company will pay the bonus amount of 30 yrs.Rs.@55/1000 i.e 3.30 lacks (sum assured is 2lakbs) afterthat survival benefit will GUARANTED 5%of S.A. PLUS current yr. bonus i.e. 10000+11000(@55/1000–this bonus is variable only) The total survival benefit =Rs.21000 every year. The Maturity Benefit (in 100 yr.=S.A. + Terminal Bonus . In jeevan umang maturity benefit is in 100 yrs.Only exceptional people will alive 100 yrs. So I suggest this plan is not a beneficial plan.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 18, 2017 at 6:36 PM

      Shailesh-May I know which Life Insurance companies bonus is at least Rs.50 (except LIC)? Have you checked the historical bonus rate of private players? They are very less compare to LIC. I think someone misguided you. For your information, the term of this plan is not 100 years, but 100 years less of your current age. Please read the above post properly.

      Reply
  30. dheeraz

    May 17, 2017 at 1:50 AM

    i am a everyday searcher for a new financial topic..in ur website… i like the way you write in simple language so that even a tenth pass also could understand…
    but what i have found is whenever there is a product from Lic or any insurance..i mean endowment or moneyback..u tend to make them look bad.. LIC has been in india for about 75 years or so… i am not any agent or employee of it.. yes people make mistake by investing in insurance.. but who will invest the money in term insurance…. if u say u will die then only ur family will get the money..that too in 25 years only..

    myself too investing 13k in mf every month
    and still have taken LIC policy for 10lakhs
    and icici ismart for 50 lakhs

    many of the people arent educated about finance.. and they need guaranteed product.. i remember few years back a mf agent has told about a mutual fund..it was a new fund..asked a person to buy for nav 10rs.. and now.. it hasnt given atleast 6% .. people should cultivate the habit of saving…indians are still in myth that mf and shares are for high class society.. and so they go for recurrung deposits..lic..postal etc where returns are guaranteed.. so rather than badmouthing them..better help people to understand more about the products

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 17, 2017 at 10:38 AM

      Dheeraz-For your information, Term Insurance is NOT AN INVESTMENT. It is risk mitigating product. Hence, no question of RETURN expectation. Hope I replied to your all doubts. Forget about agents or advisers. It is YOUR hard earned money. Hence, the biggest responsibility of KNOWING before investing is WITH YOU. If you not do that homework, then it is your fault. Hence, hoping that someone can educate ME, it is better to take initiative and learn the basics of investing to protect my hard earned money.
      I am neither against LIC or it’s product. But bringing in the truth is what I am doing. If someone feel 5% return for an investment of 40 years is GOOD, then I don’t have rights to stop that person. But hiding the real truth is dangerous. This is what I am doing by sharing information about such products. Rest is left with an individual to decide.

      Reply
      • dheeraz

        May 17, 2017 at 11:30 AM

        i am not trying to educate u sir… but the way u write the article..use the words like pathetic. i am against them.. against an govt organisation.. which is nearly about 75 years old.. and which has helped many families upon..
        atleast these endowment and money back policies have atleast more than 98% claim settlement
        .. imagine a society where all people close their endowment and money back policies and invest amount in the shares or mfs..is it possible??

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          May 17, 2017 at 12:00 PM

          Dheeraz-I am not saying that you are educating me. Also, there is nothing wrong if I learn something new from you. I always try to learn from all. Do you remember the old days? What used to be the sum assured of LIC policies? I am not saying anything more than 20-30 years. But just before the year 2000? The sum assured used to be around Rs.25,000 or Rs.50,000. Let us assume one took the policy at that time. Let us say he received the maturity of Rs.50,000 or Rs.1 lakh. Now may I know in what way you can utilize such funds? In no way such maturity amount will help you in funding of any of your goals. All because of inflation.
          Hence, what I am pointing is, understand the product. Don’t blindly go ahead with the crowd following that LIC is TRUSTED or GUARANTEED…nothing is guaranteed in this world (including the money you keep in your savings account). Anything can happen with your money. However, try to manage the risk is an art of investment.

          Reply
          • kiran pani Thota

            May 19, 2017 at 12:02 PM

            HI Basu,

            I completely agree with your replies especially the latter one for this specific queries. I wanna share some real life experiences which i faced in my life, my dad is a LIC agent for past 33+years & he made more than 30policies for himself & our family but parallely he invested one fourth of value in shares/mutual funds, the total value what shares are giving/given more or less 85% of gross worth of LIC returns till date, it is just a matter of time the share/mutual fund returns overcome the gross value of mutual LIC returns (not including the agent benifits from LIC Policy). Imagine the vice versa case in the investment.
            Based on this experience I started investing 3/4th of my full investement in Mutual funds & 1/4th in Life Insurances, sadly I didnt have term insurance yet.
            What I wanna convey here is as Basu said LIC returns wont beat inflation & only advantage is death coverage which you can get it from term insurance as well but at the end its personal choice & their own hardearned money so finally its their decision.

            Reply
            • Basavaraj Tonagatti

              May 19, 2017 at 4:01 PM

              Kiran-Asset allocation for whole your investment is wrong. You have to do asset allocation based on the time horizon of the goal. You did by allocating “3/4th of my full investment in Mutual funds & 1/4th in Life Insurances”. Also, whether you are able to do re-balancing activity by investing in such ILLIQUID products of LIC’s traditional plans??

              Reply
      • satish patil

        May 27, 2017 at 8:25 PM

        i agree with you
        advice though it may apear biased ,it should be truth
        i like the way you put the facts
        thanks for guidance
        satish

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          May 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM

          Satish-Pleasure.

          Reply
  31. katta sudheer

    May 16, 2017 at 9:28 PM

    Hi Basu sir, good explanation. Tq. After 30yrs of ppt 8% of SA will not meet our expenses. At d time of maturity we might have reached 70 or 80 yrs, by this time we might have finished most of our responsibilities for which matured amount failed to help. After that even we get lumsum it’s not of great help. Bcoz our investments should meet our goals.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 17, 2017 at 9:51 AM

      Katta-True and the value of that at that time is just meager.

      Reply
  32. RiteshM

    May 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM

    Thank you Sir,

    Another great review of new (and pathetic?) product from LIC!!

    People in this country do not know concepts of Time Value of Money, Compounding, Internal Rate of Return etc.and simply rely on overstated projections of LIC agents and hence commit mistake of “Investing” in LIC products. Moreover, LIC agents never tell prospect about exit clause (which a policy holder comes to know only after some years when he visits LIC office). I regret to say but this is my personal experience.

    Imagine how much of wealth could have been made by people via mutual fund route in last 20 years instead of “Investing” in pathetic LIC products, the wealth destroyer for policy holders.

    Thanks again.

    Ritesh.

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 16, 2017 at 7:39 PM

      Ritesh-Just look for above example. If you do not sit with a calculator, then this product seems to be like the eighth wonder of the world. However, the reality is something horrible.

      Reply
  33. KRISHNA DHULE

    May 16, 2017 at 2:40 PM

    i’m A LIC AGENT FROM HYDERABAD , AS PER MY SALES I FEEL JEEVAN LABH AND JEEVAN ANAND, LAKSHYA ARE THE BEST PLAN TO SALE, THIS UMANG SEEMS NOT SO INSTRESTING, OLD PLAN TARANG WAS BETTER THEN THIS ,

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 16, 2017 at 4:45 PM

      Krishna-How the other plans you mentioned are BEST than this plan?

      Reply
      • KRISHNA DHULE

        May 16, 2017 at 5:29 PM

        imagine a person paying a premium of 27k for 20years and then, lic returning him 40k annum till his death,and then they will return s.a and bonus and fab, when he die, a person paying 27k now in 2017 and in 2037 he is taking 40k, annum,this amount cannot beat the inflation at all, atleast in tarang old one, they use to get 5.5% with maturity at end of premium paying term, at-least labh and anand and other plans can beat the inflation and also with the security , here i’m giving my opinion kindly tell me if i’m wrong and how ?

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          May 16, 2017 at 7:37 PM

          Krishna-May I know which other plans of LIC will beat the inflation and give you the REAL returns?

          Reply
          • Krishna dhule

            May 16, 2017 at 10:06 PM

            Mr baswaraj etc simply your intention to target me and my lic , I can understand your profession and you , lic plans are very well good to beat your stuff mutual funds , lic gives guarantee and assurance and also lic runs with trust of many people’s , a small example of in our home we wanted to do any puja or anything which is out of our knowledge we take advice from our elders because they know better then us , the same way is lic I mean life insurance of corporations of India , not the mutual funds , mutual funds are subjects to market linked , any thing can happen like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and mutual Funds is something which can be too good as well too bad , lic is something atleast which some thing scope in tradition way , don’t be so smart ,

            Reply
            • Krishna dhule

              May 16, 2017 at 10:24 PM

              Seems your intention is something else , and it’s against lic , please send your product by convincing your customers, I will sell my clients by convincing them , stop blaming lic agents ,

              Reply
              • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                May 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM

                Krishna-I am neither against LIC Agents or LIC. If something truthful hurts such fraternity, then it is YOUR problem but not MINE 🙂

                Reply
                • Sk

                  May 29, 2017 at 11:03 PM

                  Basu i understand ur problem , when people dont have anything tonearn they always point out others

                  Reply
                  • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                    May 30, 2017 at 10:13 AM

                    SK-Thanks 🙂

                    Reply
            • Basavaraj Tonagatti

              May 17, 2017 at 9:56 AM

              Krishna-When I targeted YOU and YOUR LIC? Am I get anything by doing this?? In what way LIC Plans BEAT MY STUFF MUTUAL FUNDS? LIC gives a guarantee? So Bonus and FAB are GUARANTEED?? Great comparison of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with Mutual Funds 🙂 Something at least at what COST?? Don’t throw your statements in AIR. Instead prove it with valid points and inputs.
              Investment is not an emotional thing. But it needs concrete understanding.

              Reply
              • NITIN ARORA

                June 7, 2017 at 10:49 PM

                What is the inflation these days ? What is the interest rates offered by Debt Instruments ?Lastly your so called ,mutual funds what returns were given in 2008 ? Its a complex and cyclical share market. So stop criticizing LIC or its plans blindly ?

                Reply
                • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                  June 8, 2017 at 11:11 AM

                  Nitin-Inflation Rate-Check RBI data. Debt Instruments Interest Rate-In my view, you are pointing other than LIC products. Check individually for the same. If I am looking for investment in MF (as per you mutual funds mean equity…sad but the common misconception), then I never look for a SINGLE year return. I enter into equity if my time horizon is more than 5 years and that also with proper asset allocation. Hope you understood that in the game of investment, managing RISK is the biggest art than selecting the product. By the way, in which category YOUR LIC plan stands in??

                  Reply
  34. Nitin kedia

    May 15, 2017 at 11:25 PM

    I think your assumption of 70 yrs instead of 100 yr leading the rate of investment down and It might happen that insured survive minimum 80 or 85 yrs. or sometime more .

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 16, 2017 at 9:37 AM

      Nitin-The tenure of the policy is 100 Years-Your Current Age. So in the above example, 100 years-30 years=70 years is the tenure of the plan. However, there may be some slight variation in returns if the policyholder dies before this maximum term. But in reality, the return will not cross more than 7% and this is the truth.

      Reply
  35. Nikhil

    May 13, 2017 at 8:01 PM

    My Goal is to have good amount of money in my hand after 12-14 years

    No need of money in honad currently

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 14, 2017 at 10:45 AM

      Nikhil-GOOD MONEY means?

      Reply
      • Nikhil

        May 14, 2017 at 11:05 AM

        Good Money means Good Returns after 10-12 years

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          May 14, 2017 at 11:19 AM

          Nikhil-Random numbers not works while you are investing. You must have a clear idea of how much you want to expect and when you need that money. Product selection is secondary.

          Reply
          • Nikhil

            May 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM

            Sir, Currecnlt in FD I am getting less than 7.5% interest . SO any thing giving more than 9 % return is good and The money I will need only after 12 years.

            I just want to know in which Mutaul Fund I should iNvest now

            Currently I have
            BSL Frontline Equity Fund -Grow
            BSL Tax Relief 96 Fund-ELSS – Dividend
            ICICI Value Discovery Fund – DP Growth
            ICICI Balanced Fund – DP – Growth
            HDFC Equity Fund-Growth

            I have also FD of 10 Lakhs which I want to convert into MF

            Reply
            • Basavaraj Tonagatti

              May 14, 2017 at 11:38 AM

              Nikhil-A single balanced fund like ICICI Balanced fund (growth option) is enough. I am not sure why you opted dividend when you need money after 12 years

              Reply
              • Nikhil

                May 14, 2017 at 11:53 AM

                Thanks Basu,

                I am now going to start SIP for the same as you suggested ICICI Balanced Fund – DP – Growth

                Dividend MF was started by my fater approx 5-6 years ago. I am now not going to select any Dividend option now.

                Reply
                • Basavaraj Tonagatti

                  May 14, 2017 at 12:02 PM

                  Nikhil-Carry on..however for better understanding on MF, read my earlier post “Top 10 Best SIP Mutual Funds to invest in India in 2017“.

                  Reply
                  • Nikhil

                    May 14, 2017 at 12:48 PM

                    Thanks Sir

                    Reply
  36. Nikhil

    May 13, 2017 at 2:30 PM

    Is this good one to invest if I want to invest 25000 Annually. My Age is 34 years

    Reply
    • Basavaraj Tonagatti

      May 13, 2017 at 5:55 PM

      Nikhil-If you feel the returns of around 5% to 6% are BEST to you for your 20 years or 25 years of investment, then go ahead. Otherwise, just skip. Never combine insurance with investment.

      Reply
      • Nikhil

        May 13, 2017 at 7:42 PM

        Ok Thanks, then it better to invest in Mutual Funds

        Currently I have investment in following ones

        BSL Frontline Equity Fund -Grow
        BSL Tax Relief 96 Fund-ELSS – Dividend
        ICICI Value Discovery Fund – DP Growth
        ICICI Balanced Fund – DP – Growth
        HDFC Equity Fund-Growth

        I have also FD of 10 Lakhs

        Do you let me know where I should transfer this FD in which FUnds

        Reply
        • Basavaraj Tonagatti

          May 13, 2017 at 7:56 PM

          Nikhil-Without knowing much about your goals, it is hard for me to guide.

          Reply

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