A few months back when I wrote about “LIC Bonus rates for 2012-13 and comparison“, I flooded with lots of queries about doubts to calculate return on LIC policies. So thought to sum up all those issues and write an article on that.

I recently wrote a post which is exhaustive than this one and hope will be helpful for you to calculate returns on your LIC policies. Please check the below link for the same.

Also, watch the video I created for the same.

In LIC there are basically two type of plans either** With Profit Plans** or** Without Profit Plans**. First we will look at what do you mean by without profit plans. In such plans there will be no bonus, LA or GA payable to you and on the date of maturity, only the sum assured will be paid.

Rest of all policies come under with profit plans. Examples of the few are Endowment Plan (Table-14), Money Back Plans, Jeevan Anand, Jeevan Saral, Jeevan Ankur or Komal Jeevan.

In with profit policies you get returns based on the declaration of bonus, loyalty addition or final additional bonus of LIC. So first let us understand each component of these in detail.

**1) Bonus**-Bonus is the return what LIC include into your policy account on yearly base. LIC usually declares bonus rate for all policies on yearly base. Note the point that, even though it is accumulated on yearly base but you get this return only either on maturity or on death claims. Hence don’t be happy now itself that you got high bonus. Will make you familiar with bonus calculation from below example.

Suppose Mr.X take Jeevan Anand policy at the age of 30 yrs. The term of the Plan is 25 yrs and the Sum Assured opted is Rs.10,00,000. So from start to maturity period he is entitled to the bonus which LIC declares. It will get paid on maturity. If something happens to him during the period of the policy term then his nominee will receive Sum Assured+Accumulated bonus till that period. Calculation of bonus is as below.

Suppose if LIC declares bonus as Rs.40 for particular year then what it mean? It means that for Sum Assured of Rs.1,000 LIC will pay you Rs.40 as bonus for that particular year. Hence in the above example Mr.X opted Rs.10,00,000 as Sum Assured, so he will get a bonus as Rs.40,000 {(Rs.10,00,000*Rs.40)/Rs.1,000}. Now the interesting point here is, as I said above this will be included in your policy account for that particular year but will not be paid to you. The same way they calculate for each year bonus and will pay you either on maturity or on death.

Below is the list of policies which are entitled to receive bonus.

1) Whole Life Plans, 2) Endowment Plans, 3) Jeevan Mitra double and triple cover, 4) Jeevan Saathi, 5) Marriage Endowment Plans, 6) Jeevan Chhaya, 7) Jeevan Shree-1, 8) Jeevan Anurag, 9) Money Back plans etc.

**2) Guaranteed Addition (GA)**-In few plans bonuses is guaranteed where LIC obliged to pay a fixed amount of bonus till the agreed period. It is usually called as Guaranteed Addition. Few of such plans are Komal Jeevan and Jeevan Shree-1.

**3) Loyalty Addition (LA)**-This is one time payment which will be given to you only after completion of certain period (either maturity or death). As the name suggests, this is given to you by being loyal to LIC. So if for any particular plan LIC declares LA as Rs.250 for those all policies who completed 25 years then the calculation will be as below.

We again take Mr.X’s example, in his case he will be entitled to receive Rs.2,50,000 {(Rs.10,00,000*Rs.250)/Rs.1,000}. In all policies usually LA will be for each Rs.1,000 Sum Assured. But exception to this is Jeevan Saral, where LA will be on each Rs.1,000 Maturity Sum Assured.

This Maturity Sum Assured is differ from Sum Assured for Jeevan Saral. This Maturity Sum Assured is calculated based the age, term and premium.

**4) Final Additional Bonus (FAB)–**This is same as Loyalty Addition. Usually paid to policies whose term is more than 15 years. The calculation of this FAB is same as that of LA. This is calculated for each Rs.1,000 Sum Assured (Jeevan Saral not have FAB). Policies which have long term will usually have higher FAB.

These above four are the components which constitutes your return on LIC policy. But do remember that each policy has its own feature. Hence never believe that your policy has all the above return features. But almost all policies have either bonus or GA. LA and FAB depends on policy feature. Hope this above explanation made easy in calculating

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I have a pension plan table/plan : 147/21-21

Yealy I am paying Rs.10,000/-

date of commencement : 15/02/2003

date of maturity : 15/02/2024

date of last payment:15/02/2023

can you please let me know, after maturity what will I get and what would be the monthly pension that I will receive?

Thanks

Sharmila

Sharmila-It is a typical endowment type retirement plan. You can expect around 5% to 6% returns.

Thank you so much for your fast response and valuable time spending for others.

So would it be 5%/6% of 10,000 ?

I have a 901(Health Plus plan) completed 8 years and now I want to surrender it. Is it possible or not?

Jyotirmoy-Yes, you can.

FIRST OF ALL THANKS A LOT FOR QUICK REPLY.

MY HEALTHPLUS POLICY’s DATE OF COMMENCEMENT WAS :20/03/2008.

PREMIUM PAID UP TO 2015 i.e. @ Rs.10,000.00 pa X 8 NOS.

HOW MUCH I WILL GET IF I SURRENDER THE SAME AS ON DATE.

Jyotirmoy-That you have to check with LIC branch.

Hi i started my policy on 20/03/2013 in plan 179(Lic New Bima gold money back).It staes that at 4th and 8 th year end i will got survival benefit.My question is at what date and month i will get the money credited to bank account(already registered my bank account with them)?

Jones-It is after completion of 4th year and 8th year.

Thanks for your reply.But i need by which date and month it will be credited after completion of four years ??I commenced on this policy on 20-03-2013

Jones-Immediately on the first day of 5th year commencement.

Thank you

for your valuable response

Hello sir,

I took new Jana raksha policy in 2003 and sum assured is 500000(5 lac) and yearly premium is 24800 , total premium should be paid 20 years .

I paid premium for 12 years and on 13th year the policy was surrendered buy third party as lic bond was submitted for security purpose by some one X person (very close to me) without my knowledge . now i want recover the amount from X person , Can you please tell me what was actually surrender value

Vasu-Check with the branch.

Hi,

My mother applied for the LIC JEEVAN SNEHA PLAN in 1998 with term of 20 years and the sum assured was Rs – 50000. Premium is 3627. Few days back my mother got expired. What is the amount i will get from the policy.

Thanks & Regards,

Shriramvaraprasad B.

Shriramvaraprasad-It is Sum Assured+GA. I have limited information about this policy. Hence, better you contact the branch immediately.

How to calculate returns? … I BOUGHT LIC ASHA DEEP POLICY IN 1996 OF RS50000/ PREMIUM RS.2620.00 PER YEAR … In 20th year(maturity) WHAT IS MY MATURTY AMOUNT

Dhanraj-Refer the post.

I have taken new jeevan shree policy in 2001 sum assured is Rs 500000. Annual premium is about Rs 33000.The agent says that I’ll get 1700000 Rs after 25 years.Is he right or lying?

Sangeeta-Premium paying term?

Thank you 🙂

Hi Basu,

I got a call from an LIC agent saying if i pay 1lakh will get triple times the return in end of maturity that is 8 lakh with benifits …some newly launched plan she said…”jeevan something*” I don’t remember the plan name correctly…but did I heard it right?? Could you please help me with the policy details if so.

Thanks & Regards

Jeevitha

Jeevitha-He is the biggest lier and cheater to you. Stay away from such agents. If he still shows such fancy schemes, then you can complain against him in LIC.

Hello Sir,

I have a plan of LIC Jeevan Chhaya since Sept 2010 and I am paying 3007 rs premium 4 times a year.

What will be the returns if I close this policy right now or how much bonus I will get if I continue with this policy.

Waiting for your valuable reply.

Regards,

Ajinkya

Mumbai

Ajinkya-Check with LIC branch for the values.

Hi Basu,

Thanks for the interesting article. Atleast gives some idea of LIC policies maturity. Though I understand your calculations but how do I actually get the amount for BONUS, Guaranteed Addition, LA and FAB? I have three policies 2 are Jeevan Saral (I believe only applicable for Loyalty Bonus) and 1 New Jeevan Shree (I believe applicable for all the four components).

Your response will be highly appreciated. I can share some specifics if you can help me with your email ID.

Ankit-You can check the LIC portal or my old posts for LIC Bonus rates.

Hello Basavraj,

I have following policy, but current in laps state. I am planning to surrender it,

1 . Need advice on it.

2. There is some vested bonus on plicy? can i get those bonus on surrender

Policy Premium Paid from Paid Till Sum Assured

Komal Jeevan Half year 2008 2012 3L – policy term 24 Premium term 16

Jeevan Tarang Qtry 2009 2012 8 L policy term 69 premium term 20

Jeevan Sathi Yearly 2006 2011 5L policy term 21 preimum term 21

Regards

Shyam

Shyam-If your policies completed 3 years, then including bonus LIC will calculate the surrender values.

Thanks Basavaraj for your reply.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I have a LIC money-back (75-20) policy (Table 20 – Term 20) with sum assured of 4 Lakhs.

1st premium paid on Dec 2001 of Rs.25,092/- (annually). Last premium of Rs.25,092/- paid on Dec 2015.

Till date 15 premiums paid for 15 yrs and 2 money-back of Rs.80,000/- each (20% of sum assured) received on Dec 2006 (5th yr) & Dec 2011 (10th yr). 3rd money-back (15th yr) of Rs.80,000/- is due this Dec 2016.

If I surrender the policy on Jan 2017 after receiving the 3rd money-back (on Dec 2016) and year-end accumulated bonus (on Dec 2016) without paying the 16th premium (due on Dec 2016), how much will I loose ?

Total Investment = Rs.25,092 x 15 = Rs.3,76,380/-

Total Money-back = Rs.80,000 x 3 = Rs.2,40,000/-

Vested Bonus accumulated till 2016 = Rs.2,60,000/- (approx)

Please provide your suggestion if I surrender the policy on Jan 2017, how much will I loose (in figures) from maturity amount and bonus. Also can I stop paying premiums from 16th year till maturity on 21st year ?

Thanks & Regards

Vikram

Vikram-Contact the nearest branch for surrender values.

Hello Bro,

I’ve taken LIC Bima Nivesh policy for a tenure of 5 years and sum of Rs 5 Lac. Can you please help to understand that on the date of maturity how much amount I will get. It will be great if you can show the calculation also.

Thanks,

Neeraj

Neeraj-Referring my video, you can do the calculation on your own.

Your calculation of return does not take into account the Cost of Insurance. The insurance we get is an additional benefit in any case and the cost which we have to pay for that Insurance is also a Benefit.

Krishna-Do you feel that COST of insurance matter that much that it gives you more than 7% returns (Especially in the current competitive term plan scenarios)??

Hi Basavaraj,

Good morning. I have a unique problem in dissolving the LIC policy which I had purchased 3.5yrs ago.

Need your valuable advise.

I want to surrender the policy [NEW MONEY BACK PLAN-25yrs PLAN No.-821]. Since its already 3.5yrs I have been paying the premiums (monthly ECS), I am eligible for survival benefit of 90,000/- (15% of 6L Sum Assured) by April-2017.

I searched online for the surrender benefit and it says after 3yrs its 30% of the total premiums paid (minus) the survival benefit already paid.

My question is:

If I surrender the policy after I take my 1st Survival benefit (i.e 90,000/-), and if the surrender value [i.e 30% of the total premiums paid (minus) the survival benefit already paid] comes to be a negative value, then should I pay back the amount to LIC before the policy could be closed?

example:

yearly premium is 30k

premium paid for 4yrs would be 1.2L

30% of 1.2L = 36k

30% of the total premiums paid (minus) the survival benefit already paid would be => 36k – 90k = -54k (negative value)

So to close the policy should I pay back 54k to LIC?

Pls suggest.

Sanjay-No, you no need to pay any amount for surrender. You take survival benefit and forget. The biggest drawback of such products will come to know when you go for closure.

Thanks Basavaraj for your advice.

You have mentioned “when you go for closure” …. anything I should be prepared beforehand when I go to LIC office for closure?

I was looking for other options instead of closure and came across “PAID UP policy” option. So will this be a good option instead of closure? Kindly advice.

Hi,

In your view, which is the best policy right now available in the market that not only provides life risk coverage but also fetches good return (if looked from investment angle)?

Thanks for your comment….

Regards,

Sushant

Sushant-May I know the meaning of GOOD RETURN as per your view?

As you have rightly commented, the average return is 5-6%. Any return more than current bank FD rate can be construed as good return to me.

Sushant-I need a perfect answer like 8%, 10% 12% or 15%?

Say 8%

Sushant-Then stay away from all these traditional plans. NONE can generate you more than 7% returns also.

Thank you very much for your instant replies.

In that case, what do you suggest to go with if not the traditional policies…?

Sushant-There are various options you can choose to get more than 8% returns for long investment (10+ years).

Can u pls mail me some of the options with life risk coverage…?

Suah-You can buy term insurance to cover your life risk.

Hi Sir,

My plan is Money back policy 820. (Total policy term 20 years) .I am paying my term for every half year is 18880. So yearly 37760. As you know sum assured is 5,00,000 laks. On every 5 year I will get 5% of assured bonus.So 1,00,000 I will receive on every 5 year. 5 th year – lak, 10 th year-1 lak, 15 year – 1 lak,totally i will receive 3 lak mid of the policy.

On finally 20 th year 40% of assured I will get so 2 laks. Here How much accrued bonus I will get on maturity? And how to calculate exactly?

I was wrong in above statement.On every 5 year 20 % of assured bonus I will get.

Logeshwarwan-Refer my recent post “Video tutor-How to calculate LIC policies maturity amount and returns?“.

suppose if I have taken the policy of new bima gold table no.179 (Money Back Policy) for 16 years with sum of 5,00,000 rupees and according the plan I would get the money back on 4th, 8th,12th and 16th years respectively. Please tell me towards end of the policy i.e.. after 16 years when the policy get matured then how much the total amount of money I would get….?? 07 years finished now… 75000.00 i got money back already

STARTED DATE: 26TH MAY 2009

PREMIUM: PAYING Rs.6425 FOR QUTERLY…….

RECOVERY: Rs.75000.00 AFTER 04 YEARS,

Thank you Viswanadh

Viswandh-Please take the pain to calculate on your own based on the procedure I explained.

Hi, Thanks for the wonderfull information and advise being provided by you.

Require an advise . I have a Jeeven Shree T.N.Nos 112 Policy .The below is the details of the policy

jeevan shree T.NO.112

Commencement date is 13.03.2001

Sum Assured is Rs. 5,00,000

Policy Terms – 25 (Premium Payment term : 16)

Premium which i pay yearly is 26,121

Can u help me out the working of the amount which i will be receiving after the completion of 25 years.

Have seen many web site but none seems to be clear.

Where can we find LIC Bonus yearly decalared .

Thanks in Advance

Murali-Refer my video.

Hi Thanks for ur reply.

Sorry to bother u am confused can u help me out in computing the same.

Regards

Murali

Murali-What is your confusion?

Don’t waste your time asking this guy. He sounds a bit arrogant – and like most arrogant people, is also quite wrong.

For example he writes “First we will look at what do you mean by without profit plans. In such plans there will be no bonus, LA or GA payable to you and on the date of maturity, only the sum assured will be paid.”

This is nonsense. I have the same policy as you Jeevan Shree policy ( T. No 112) and it says clearly ‘Without Profit’ BUT the policy document also shows Guaranteed Additions of Rs.75 for every Rs.1000 sum assured. So for my Rs.500,000 “Without Profit”policy GA is 37500 per year which will be multiplied by 25 and paid at the time of maturity (25 years). So his definition of Without Profit is quite wrong.

Armugam-Best of luck 🙂

Dear Sir,

I have Jeevan Mitra triple cover with term 15 Years and sum assured 5 lakh. What Amount I can expect at maturity?

Thanks in Advance

Sam

Sam-It is typical endowment plan. You can calculate on your own by using above method.

Dear Basavaraj,

I am paying premium Rs. 14,479 Quarterly for The Money Back policy 20 years (T. No. 75)

Started at the age of 20. Sum assured is Rs. 9,00,000.

Could you please tell me how much i will get in return.

Thanks.

Vinodh-It is around 5% to 6%.

Than you sir for the information.

I am investing Rs. 1500/- per month since 28/12/2010 jeevan saral. It is 20 years term policy. How much will I get in return after maturity. Sum Assured is Rs. 375000/-

Please help.

Santosh-It will be around 5% to 6%.

Thank you for your response Sir. Can you please just let me know a lump-sum amount. Please Sir…

Santosh-Please calculate as I explained above.

Hello Sir,

I have Jeevan Chhaya LIC Policy of 13lacs sum assured for which I paid 72k appx. for 3 financial year.If I am going to surrender this Policy I am eligible to get appx. 1,2 lacs appx. Can you please suggest, it is better to surrender it with around 1lacs loss?

Megha-Best option.However, if you feel that loss of Rs.1 lakh is more than future earning then continue. Also, continue if you feel 5% to 6% return on your investment is BEST. Otherwise, it is better to come out.

Hello Sir – I spoke to agent and he was telling if I will continue for next 2 yrs ie 5 premium yrs, then I can able to recover at least my invested amount.Please Sir suggest me. I was thinking to minimize loss out of it.

Megha-Contact the LIC branch (Not an agent), ask for surrender values, then decide.

Dear sir,

Greetings of the day !!

Sir i have 2 policy which started in 2009 yearly basis one is regular ( Rs 6984) and second was money back after five years (Rs 12458) and now i wanted to close due to some prob. and as per agent very less amount i will receive.

Request you to please guide me on above and how much maximum amount i can get it.

Thank you for your time and guidance.

Warm regards,

Devendra

Devendra-Contact nearest or servicing LIC branch.

Sir

Total amount calculated in that time which I withdraw against 25000

Prematured claim bina nivesh 2005 policy after my mother death

Sanchita-It is Sum Assured opted+Accumulated bonus as of the year. You can check the same with nearest LIC branch.

My mother have died last April 2016 she hold a policy lic bima nivesh 2005 on 2013 Dec. And I am nominee this policy and amount only 25000 now l can not understand how much rupee return or withdrawal

Sanchita-It is the sum assured in the policy, which you will receive.

I do not know ,but l actually know how much money will withdraw in that time against 25000?

Is there any option to collect the return comparison of LIC Money Back plan and LIC Money Plus plan.?

If yes than plz kindly provide the reference Link?

Mehul-You can do the calculation using the video I created above.

Hi, what is the impact if in a policy we have enrollment year and commencement year different. What does these mean. Does this mean any loss in benefits?

Raj-Not a big deal.

Hi, I ‘ve a very general question.. Do we get our premium amounts with sum assured??

For ex for my policy sum assured on maturity is 2 lace after 15 years. And for ten 10 years, I paid the premium 25k each year, that mean 2.50 lac

That means I will get 2.50 lacs + 2 lacs after 15 years?? Am I right or I will get only sum assured on maturity??

Anu-NO. only Sum Assured.

Sir, request your expert views on the following:

1) I have a jeevan shree policy in 2001 paid 15 yrly premium out of 16. I have a loan o/s since last 3 yrs. Should I repay loan or only service interest

2) I have also taken 10 lac jeevan anand policy in 2004 for 21 yrs.again have taken loan. Should I repay or srrender? Pls advise. Thanks

Raj-1) It is left with you. If you have surplus, then better pay off. Otherwise, pay the interest ONLY.

2) Again it is left with you. Also, if you are satisfied with kind of return of 5% to 6% from this policy, then definitely go ahead and continue it.

Sir Many thanks, request your firther guidance:

1) While I have the surplus tto pay off the laon, i am confused if i should do that or invest the same in a mutual fund, while continuing to pay interest.

2) Jeevan Anand – Is it better to surrender or to pay the loan since i have paid 50% of the tenor i.e for 11 year out of 21 years. if the furture premium plus interest payable on the loan gives better return in mf or ppf, I would prefer to invest in mf or ppf then.

Please advice. thank you.

Raj-1) It is purely your decision. I can’t say of this. Because I don’t know your full financial status.

2) I already replied. If you feel 5% to 6% is good return, then continue. Otherwise you have to surrender.

i have money back policy, after compition of 4th year, how many days i will get my first money back amount

Dinesh-It depends on policy feature. Check the same in policy document.

hi basu,

I have small query and suggestion.

First of all I want to thank you for teaching me (LIC agent) and aspiring CFP on how to calculate IRR of lic premium.

Everything else remaining same.

I wonder why you did not take tax saving feature of lic while calculating IRR.

As you have said in the video anything that goes from your pocket will be negative.keeping that point in mind, A 30 year old guy having a salary of 25 lacs PA decides to pay 1 lac premium to lic for 20 years.

Even though he pays 1 lac premium which will be gross amount. he will be able to save 30,000 on tax as he falls in 30% tax slab. So the net amount that will actually go from his pocket is 70,000. So if you calculate with premium of 70,000 the IRR will be around 9% to 10%.

Another point is i took example of a person who is under 30% tax slab. So i do agree that returns on investments will differ according to tax slab as tax saved will be different for 10%,20%,30%.

i wanted your views on this.

Ajinkya-You way of calculation is exactly like typical agents do to sell such low yielding products. I agree that I not considered tax benefit. But what about maturity? Currently, it is tax-free. But what if they turn into taxable in view of promoting term insurance. Because IRDA now started pushing term insurance by incentivizing more for selling term insurance. Hence, I avoided tax part fully.

Dear Sir!

I have taken Jeevan Saral Policy on 2009 and still now continuing, sum assured is 1037500 for 35 years tenure.

My Qly EMI is 12709, and If I want to close after 10 years what would be the maturity amount along w/ bonus+LA (if applicable)?

Your advise will be helpful for my planning.

Have seen the video, however it would be great if you could help on this.

Regards,

Karthik

Karthik-Please go through my earlier post on this particular plan. You get an idea “LIC’s Jeevan Saral-Why so much confusion?“.

sir which plan is more profitable.4500p.a. term plan of 2000000+6000F.D.p.a. or 10500 endowment plan of 300000. I am confused.i think the first one is more profitable.

Suddeesh-Why you combining insurance with investment?

hello sir can u pls tell me how to calculate for any policies…like if i take 100000 lac rs policy then yearly and monthly how much i have to pay…the bonus and….service tax…//

Umesh-I already explained the same in above video and post also. Please go through it.

Sir,

I want to take loan against my existing LIC Policy Jeevean Saral

I can avail loan around 90000 INR.

But i do not know what is the EMI?

What is the tenure for this loan?

Vinay-There is no EMI. But you have to clear the interest dues. The tenure of loan will be up to your policy maturity.

Hello Sir,

I have taken Jeevan Anand policy which will end by 2016. I heard from one of my friend (even he is not sure) that last premium need not to be paid. Is it correct?

Thanks,

Aradhya

Aradhya-Insurance policy term let us 25 years means you have to pay 25 installments. But you receive the amount at the 26th year beginning, means once you complete 25 years of policy period. So he might wrongly felt that last premium need to be paid. But reality is different. It is his misconception.

Sir I just want to ask that is the maturity benefit 100% guaranteed in jewan Anand policy?

For example I was told to get 35 lacs for the 9lac sum assured for 30 years term

Sunil-NO, it depends on yearly bonus LIC declares.

I have purchased the policy LIC Jeevan Anand on 1st August 2004.

Policy term is 21 years.

Sum Assured is 100000 INR

Annual Premium is 5383 INR

How to find surrender value as on today?

Also how to find bonus?

Vinay-You have to visit the nearest LIC branch to find it.

Thanks Basavraj Sir

Sir-my father had purchased the policy LIC jeevan an and on 1 April 2006.

Policy term 21 yrs. Sum assured 200000.Annual premium 10767.00.

My father have died last June 2016. And he hold this policy. I am nominee this policy..one more thing two installents of annual premium is left .. But I really don’t know about this criteria of lic.

Plz tell me the total amount.

Pooja-I think it is lapsed. First check with concerned LIC branch or visit the nearest branch immediately.

Basavaraj- I started my Jeeavn anand polocy plan-149 on 28th august 2013. Premiun-15754 (HLY) . And after 1 year the vested bonus is shown as 22000. But when i checked in this month it is shown as ZERO. Please help me out of this.

Srikanth-It reflect after 3 years. Don’t worry.

Thank you Basavaraj……

Thanks a million for the beautiful explanation.

But I would like to know & understand that FAB & LA both are given to the policy holder if he/she is paying the premium regular & meeting the definition of FAB & LA.

Thanks a lot.

Pratik-FAB is a one-time payment payable at maturity, which is usually per Rs.1,000 of your sum assured. Loyalty Addition again a one-time payment at maturity which depends on same as that of FAB but sometimes on Maturity Sum Assured (like in case of Jeevan Saral).

Hi Basavaraj,

I need help in calculating returns of my policy. Will you be able to assist me on this. Pls let me know. Thanks.

Regards,

Viswanath. R

Vishwanath-Please go through above video. You will understand it.

DEAR SIR,

I BOUGHT LIC ASHA DEEP POLICY IN 1995 OF RS 50000/- SUM INSURED ,PREMIUM RS 2038/ YEARLY AND FOR 25 YEARS

WHAT I WILL GET MATURITY AMOUNT AS THE POLICY IS MATURING ON DEC 2020.

PLZ REPLY AT MY MAIL

Vinod-Please refer my recent post “Video tutor-How to calculate LIC policies maturity amount and returns?“.

Appreciate your calculation on surrender value of Jeevan Saral at the end of 10 years;

1) Annual Premium-1,92,160

2) Date of commencement-15/02/2008

3) Policy term-35 years

4) Maturity date-15/02/2035

3) MSA on policy document-30,92,782

4) Accident benefit sum assured-24,50,000

5) Table 165, 28

6) Regular Premiums are paid till date

Dear Sir,

I am curious to know surrender amount after 10 years.

1) Annual Premium-1,17,698

2) Age-42 years

3) Date of commencement-15/02/2008

4) Policy term-35 years

5) Maturity date-15/02/2035

6) MSA on policy document-30,92,782

7) Accident benefit sum assured-24,50,000

8) Table 165, 28

6) Regular Premiums are paid till date

Still 2 years are balance to accomplish 10 years. Is there any benefit to wait for more 2 years or surrender immediately?

Rajiv-You can consult the LIC branch.

Hi Basu,

I think starting of the every Year, Vested Bonus will update in the LIC Portal. But in 2016 it is not upadted. Do you know when it is updating and which month ?

Mathews-Not sure of month or date.

I would be happy if my 35 year Jeevan Anand gave me more then 6% return or at least 6%. Taken at the year – 2007

Nicky-Great 🙂 If you feel 6% return is BEST for you, then continue to invest in JEEVAN ANAND.

Sir,

I would like to know that what will be the expected trend for the NAV in 2016 for LIC endowment plan (Table 802) in comparison to 2015, it will increase or decrease.

Chauhan-Check the historical NAV data from LIC Portal.

Dear Basavaraj,

I have taken a Jeevan Chhaya Policy in 2002 March. At that time I was aged 37 years. My Policy term is 18 years. The premium I pay is Rs.6848/-p.a. The Sum Assured is Rs. 1,00,000/- . I would like to know how much I would receive after 18 years. The Policy Maturity will be on 2018. Is it better to withdraw now.

Kindly let me know please.

Maheshwari-It will be around 5% to 6%. Better to continue as it is about to close.

Sir,

I am planning to take Jeevan Anand polify for a term of 21 years for a sum assured of 1500000. My current age is 29. Kindly let me know what will be the maturity amount that I will be able to get.

Also please explain how the component of Final additional bonus(FAB) is applied. I couldn’t find any information online which explains this clearly.

Thank You

Yogesh

Yogesh-You can expect around 5% of return. FAB is explained in detail in above post.

Dear Sir

I have taken LIC endowment policy (Table 14) in the year of 2012. Total 10 policies (Premium term from 12 to 21 years) each 1lac for total of 12years. Paying 62k per year. Vested bonus is available online. I would like to know the maturity period and amount.

Ravi-Maturity period will be term of each policy. Approximately you can expect around 5% return.

A) I have taken three policies :

1. Jeevan Sathi : SA : 100000 (premium ~5200Yearly) – (for 21 years) (Start date : 2010)

2. Jeevan Saral : SA : 125000 (premium ~6005 Yearly) – (for 21 years) (Start date : 2010)

3. Jeevan Saral : SA : 125000 (premium ~6005 Yearly) – (for 21 years) (Start date : 2010)

Should I continue this policies? What max. return I get with vested bonus ? for each policies (approx idea is enough)

If I discontinue, How much I get on surrender?

B) I have one home loan (~25000 EMI) with term plan. If something happens to me, My family need not to pay any further home loan EMI. Is it enough term insurance for me OR Should I go for additional term plan ? Please advise.

C) I am planning to Invest in Sukanya Smriddhi scheme? 3000 RS. / Month. Is it good scheme for girl child?. Wanted to ensure some amount for children education.

D) I wanted to have ~ 50 Lacs at retirement? What should I do? SIP or PPF else?

My yearly income is ~ 12 Lac. I am 30 years old. I am the only one source of income for my family. Five Family member.

Thank you for your advise in advance.

Sir,

I have 2 LIC plans

1) Jeevan Shree (T.No. 112). Premium Rs 25,416 (sum assured 5 lac)

2)The Endowment Assurance policy (T No 11) Premium Rs 8528 (sum assured 5 lac)

Both the policy I started in 2001 and never missed a payment since.

I was told by my agent that I will receive some 18 lac on my first policy

I am not sure about what I will receive since the lic site never shows any bonus nor any figure what I will receive.

Is it good to still continue with both the policy. I still have 1 year to finish my whole payment on policy 1 and policy 2 has payment till 25 years.

Ranjeet-I don’t know the term of the policies. Hence, hard to comment.

Sir,

The policy term is as follows

1) Jeevan Shree (T.No. 112). Premium Rs 25,416 (sum assured 5 lac) Policy Term 25 (Premium Payment Term: 16)

2)The Endowment Assurance policy (T No 11) Premium Rs 8528 (sum assured 5 lac)Policy Term 30 (Premium Payment Term: 25)

Ranjeet-Agent’s say many stories to lure customers. In my view, the maximum return from 1st policy will be around Rs.12 lakh.

1) Either convert to paid up or continue as you almost paid the premium.

2) Better to surrender.

Dear Basavaraj Tonagatti

,

I have taken a Jeevan Mitra Policy in 2003 July. At that time I was aged 24 years. My Policy term is 15 years. The premium I pay is Rs.10311/- The Sum Assured mentioned in my Policy Bond is Rs. 1,50,000/- . I would like to know how much I would receive after 15 years during my Policy Maturity will be on 2018

Kindly let me know please.

Thanks in advance!

Faizal-It will be around 5%.

Hi sir..i have a doubt regarding bonus…when bonus for a particular year is fixed at 40(say) when i agreed for an lic policy and it is revised the following year as 45,will it continue to be as 40(initial bonus) or will it be 45(revised)???kindly guide

Anish-There is nothing fixed. It will change yearly.

Dear Mr.Basav,

One of my cousin has the below mentioned policy having below details :-

LIC’s Jeevan Shree – 1 (with Guaranteed Addition for 5 yrs and with Profits thereafter); Table 162; Term 20 yrs.Commencement: 03/2004;

Maturity: 03/2024

Premium for main plan Rs. 9212 (Qtrly)

Date of Last payment : 12/2015

Premium: 233872 (extra 13.5% premium incuding)

Paid for seven years until 2/2015;

Premium term: 12 yrs (i.e to pay until 2019).

Sum Assured: 5,000,000

Can you guide us that if this is the right time to quit so that they can repay other loans?

Suppose if we quit, How much we will get now?

Thank you.

Vidya Ganesh-First check both surrender and paid up values with LIC branch. In my view, it is better to quit and pay the loans (I am not sure what type of loans are these).

Dear Mr.Basav,

Thanks for your quick reply. Really Appreciate. I will tell them to check with LIC for this option. They are having housing loan. But I think if they quit now they will get an amt less for Rs. 5 lacs (say around 3.5-4 lacs). Is that correct?

Thank you

Vidya-Yes, but better to come out and invest wisely than committing the same mistakes again and again.

Hello Sir, I am little confused on the calculation part if I use below link.

http://www.policydunia.com/lic-new-jeevan-anand-premium-calculator/

For a person aged 27, opting for a term of 33 years and sum assured 0f 100000 it shows the maturity benefit as 413400. Bonus has been considered as 48 per 1000 of sum assured. As per the calculation mentioned by you, it should come around 100000(SA)+158400(B)+FAB. Is the difference of 155000 can be of FAB ? What is the usual FAB rate for Jeevan Anand Policy. Kindy suggest.

Akshay-I think the said portal considered the FAB at higher end. But better stick to bonus and the sum assured and calcualte on the return part. I don’t think FAB will create a major difference in return part.

Sir, I have taken jeevan anand, in 2012 for 20 years, And Sum assured is 532000 rs. Let me know how much I will get in 2032 after complete the policy.

Regards

Brajesh

Brajesh-Please calculate as I explained the procedure above.

I bought an LIC Bima Gold (179) policy in 2006. Sum assured Rs 15,00,000 and annual premium 58,000. I have already paid 9 annual premiums, received two installments of 1.5 lakh each in the years 4 and 8 of the policy. At the end of 20 years I am supposed to get back nearly 5.6 lakhs (total premiums – survival benefits of 1.5 lakhs paid four times) with loyalty additions.

After hours of calls to LIC customer care and online research, I have failed to find any info on how much this policy means in term of loyalty additions. My question is, is this a good policy to continue? I am unable to find any information on what will happen to the loyalty additions if I stop paying the premiums now.

Possibly if the loyalty additions are just like bonuses, then I may get 12 lakhs as loyalty addition. Or 17 lakhs in total after 20 years of paying 58000 annually.

If I stop paying the premium, the policy becomes paid up. The paid up value is now 2.2 lakhs (premiums paid – susrvival benefits already paid) which I will receive in year 20. But will I lose all the loyalty additions or the loyalty addition will still keep on adding on this 2.2 lakhs?

If I do not lose the loyalty additions, I think it would make more sense to buy a term policy of a higher sum assured (I have a family now) and invest the rest in MFs. I don’t quite understand if I will be breaking even or cutting my losses or actually gaining anything if I stop paying the premiums.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions and advice on this. Thank you.

CM

CM-LA will be one time payment payable based on how much loyal you are (for how long you stay with them). You can check the current LA rates for your plan and based on that you can assume the expectation. Whatever way you do calcualtion, let me give you a reality. If you are satisifed with 5% to 6% returns, then continue otherwise think seriously and convert either surrender or paid up.

I have questions on LA.

I have 3 policies with Jeevan Saral, each of annual premium 12010 / – for 20, 21 and 22 years respectiely.

LA is declared after a jeevan saral policy has received 10 years of premium.

Now, if i take my policy with term 20 years, will LA get accumulated every year or at the maturity only based on the rate which LIC declares.

i.e.

year 11, cash value is x, and LA is Y, net at end of 11 years is X + Y

year 12, cash value is X+Y, LA for this year is Z, net at end of 12 years will be X + Y + Z

OR

For a 20 years term policy, LA will be added based on the LA rate declared by LIC only at

1) maturity

2) Surrender after 10 years of premium is paid

3) Risk

One more question, based on the many jeevan saral charts, JEEVAN SARAL basically is RD sought of account where we have RD interest rate. The % considered i 8 %, is it correct?

Prabhu-Unlike bonus, LA will be one time payment. Which will be calculated on MSA and term of policy. It will not be accumulated on yearly base.

Hello sir,

I had a jeevan saral with profits. It’s details is 1000/month + 20/month rider. From Dec 2009 to Nov 2025 and maturity on Dec 2025. Matured sum assured is 182040 rs. Death benefit sum assured is 250000. I don’t want to continue this policy. How much I get if I surrender this.

Thank you.

Shiva

Shiva-Contact LIC branch.

Hi Basavaraj Tonagatti,

Everybody knows that if they contact branch they will get information. Due to curiosity people are asking roughly how much they can get.

Being a government organization of LIC you may know how responsive LIC people are if you visit branch to Surrender an LIC Policy.

I personally had a very bad experience in LIC branch people when I enquire about surrendering a policy.

I don’t think you will have a problem to tell surrender value of a policy based on your experience considering the details provided by the requester

Thanks,

Raja

Spark-First thing is, people need CLICK a button READYMADE information even for simple calculations like surrender or paid up. Second thing, I can’t handhold them for all the things. They must be responsible buyers (in case of LIC investors) of their money. Third and important point, they not provide the complete details to arrive at surrender value and reply. Fourth point, they can now get information either on LIC portal (by creating login) or by sending SMS. If they are so LAZY of their own money, then forget me even GOD can’t protect them. It is a harsh reply, but a reality.

Hi,

I have a Jeevan Anurag policy, 20 years, yearly premium of 26500, S.A 5 Lacs.

completed 4 years..I want to surrender this policy now

Any idea how much the surrender value would be

The lic portal says the vested bonus is 63000. Will I be getting surrender value more than 63000, same or less than vested bonus of 63000?

Regards,

RK

RK-Contact LIC branch.

I took this policy from an agent and he is not touch now. Also, for now I didn’t have contact details of branch. Hence I posted this in this forum to get any quick help.

I am in need of money. Can someone please tell me how much I can expect If I surrender the above policy?

Thanks In Advance,

RK

RK-You can call the branch or visit nearby LIC branch to get the information. Also, note that to surrender your policy, you have to visit the servicing branch.

I also contacted LIC branch, to surrender your policy –

1) you need to fill forms

2) Give bank details with NEFT details

3) submit your original policy

4) Once submitted everything you will get receipt by post

As per my knowledge, you will not get any bonus after surrender of policy.

Total amount you will receive is 30% of total premium paid till now minus premium of 1st policy

corrected above –

Total amount you will receive is 30% of total premium paid till now minus 1st premium of policy

Ganesh-Procedure is correct. Understand first what is surrender. It is early closure of policy. Regarding how much you receive, it depends on individual case.

Hello sir,

I want to clarify my doubt that

My lic jeevan mitra policy is from November 2001 to October 2021 How much money I get if I stop this policy.

Its premium is 530 per month. Sum assured is 1 lakh.

Its surrender value is written as “This policy can be surrender for cash after the premiums have been paid for at least 3 years. The minimum surrendered value allowable under this policy is equal to 30% of the total amount of the within mentioned premiums paid excluding the premium for the 1st

year and all extra premiums ,the cash value of any existing vested bonus additions will also be allowed.”

Thank you.

Shiva-In my view, it is better to continue as another 6 years only left for maturity. Otherwise convert the policy to paid up.

Thank you for your reply. Is there any disadvantages by making it to paid up. I had lic plans like jeevan saral, new bima gold, and another 2 lics. I want to stop them too.

Thank you

Shiva-Turning paid up surrender depends on the tenure you completed.

Hi Sir,

Request your help on New Bhima Gold policy that I either wish to surrender or make it paid up.

I have been paying premium for this policy since March 2007. Quarterly premium is Rs. 4512 and sum assured is Rs. 5 lakh at the end of 20 years

I have received Rs. 5o thousand each at the end of 4th year and 8th year.

Now I want to dis-continue this policy. However I am confused when I should make it paid up or surrender the policy.

I had visited the LIC office and they told me that the current surrender value is Rs. 16961.

Can you please advise whether I should surrender the policy or make it paid up?

Thanks,

Renuka

Renuka-In my view surrender. Because you already received Rs.1,00,000 and remaining Rs.16,961 means total Rs.1,16,961 compared to what you paid around Rs.1,40,000. Go ahead and surrender.

Sir, my father bought a policy of lic 15 years back at that time agent told that return will be 2,31,000 if policy taken of 100000 for 7600 per year but now he is telling that we will only get 1,68,000….what should we do now my father has planned many things with this money

Amit-Nothing but effect of BLIND FAITH or MIS-BUYING. You can’t do and ask agent.

Hello Basavaraj,

My name is Bhaskar, i am from bangalore, i have a lic endownment policy plan 802, have paid 5 year till date, 1 lakh every year. As it is market linked plan as per the indian stock market every 30 years it has grown 100 times, what would be your idea the value would be if i continue paying 10 year premiums. what would be the investment of 10 lakhs rupees in 2030. Please reply. Hope you would comment on my message.

Bhaskar-Who said that Endowment policy is market linked? It is a typical endowment tradiational plan where you get returns of around 5%. If you are pointing towards old Endowment Plus, then whether this product guarantee you that it exactly give you the returns which will be generated by NIFTY OR SENSEX? The problem in your case is not about understanding the power of equity for long term, but chosing a wrong product which involves heavy expenses and no track record. Continue at your own risk.

My Father has a policy – MONEY BACK WITH PROFIT PLAN (Table No: 75)

Term 20 yrs.

Policy No. 292680317

Commencement: 03/2004;

Maturity: 03/2024

Sum Assured: 51000

Premim Amount HLY – 1805

Bonus Get Amount =10000+10000=20000

My Father Death August 2015

AB Mujhe Kitna Paaise Wapas Mil Sakta Hai Please Sir Help Me

Vijay-Contact your servicing branch.

Hi Basu

First of all thanks for providing valuable information to all here.

My husband has a policy – LIC’s Jeevan Shree – 1 (with Guaranteed Addition for 5 yrs and with Profit); Table 162; Term 20 yrs.

Commencement: 02/2008;

Maturity: 02/2028

Premium: 233872 (extra 13.5% premium incuding)

Paid for seven years until 2/2015;

Premium term: 12 yrs (i.e to pay until 2019).

Sum Assured: 25,000,000

Accident Benefit Sum Assured: 25,00,000

No TermAssurance

Question1: He has accident benefit (no term assurance) and the LIC agent says at maturity he will receive about 60,00,00. How much should he receive at Maturity in case of no accident or death? And in case of early death he would like to know what amount his dependent will receive?

Question2: We are overseas and have have paid through NRI account.

We are now planning to settle abroad .

We are worried about the long process involved in claiming policies and also money being blocked. Also my husband will be 70 yrs at Maturity of this policy. Both being too old to go through all the hassles of claiming – at an old age.:)

So thinking to surrender this policy. Is it advisable to do so given already paid 7 premiums out of 12? How much will I get back as of now?

Question 3:

Also I read above you mentioning about ‘paid up’. Do you think I can do that and is that is a better option than surrendering? In that case how much will I get at maturity?

Keep up the good work

Anna

Anna-1) At maturity he will receive Sum Assured+GA (for first 5 years)+Bonus. Including all the return may be around 5% to 6%.

2) I know that being far and claiming LIC policy is cumbersome. Because as of now they have not any set up which we may say ONLINE. However, consider the returns from this policy, if your expectation is higher and no longer willing to continue, then go ahead and cancel.

3) Yes, you can opt for paid up where they pay you the money at maturity. Surrender is beneficial when you are in intial stage of policy and paid up when you are about to close maturity. First take both the values from LIC branch and then decide which suits to you.

Hi Basawraj

Thanks for all your efforts.

I have just one question. In the Bonus example you gave: Sum assured: 10L, LIC Bonus: Rs40/1000 Rs invested (= 40,000)

My question is what happens in the next year? Does the bonus gets calculated on 10,00,000 or 10,40,000? If it is not compounded, then what only matters is the bonus at the maturity ending year (assuming of course i dont die!)

Again, thanks for writing this article and more importantly answering all the queries being put up in the comments section very diligently.

Regards

Ankit

Ankit-This is the reason all traditional policies give you less returns. They not compound it but they keep it just idle up to the maturity or death. So no question of calculating your bonus from Rs.10,40,000 but again on Rs.10,00,000 only from next year.

Dear sir,

Thanks for the article and its very educating. Please help me out for my below doubts. 1)There are two scenario of bonus calculation in Jeevan Anand. a) Scenario-1 : 6% b) Scenario-2 : 10%. Both are not guaranteed. My question is which scenario or rate is actually given to us by LIC. or in other way what rate of interest can i expect at the maturity of my policy at 2032.

2) LIC declares a bonus rate for each year for all policy. It is nearly constant (44) per 1000 sum assured for Jeevan Anand. Is it going to be constant till my policy maturity or will change .

Sagar-1) NONE. They considered 6% and 10% just for illustration purpose. But the reality will be purely depend on the bonus they declare year on year. 2) In all probability YES. But we can’t predict the future. So the answer is “ONLY GOD KNOW”.

Thanks sir,

It is rarely seen any body replying each and every mail sent and help other unanimously . Keep the good work going.

Hello Sir

I had a policy Money Back 20 years with profit, with DAB in 2011. Table 75. Premium is half yearly of rs.9557. The maturity year is 2031. Plz tell me the maturity amount.

Varsha-The return will be around 5% to 6%.

Sir plz tell me the maturity amount is SA is 300000

Varsha-You calculate on your own by going through above procedure and current bonus rates.

Hi,

I have a endowment policy and have been paying 45657 as yearly premium. Policy Term is 21 years.

I have paid 7 premiums till now.

I wanted to what will be return if i cancel the policy now? Will waiting till half term (i.e. 11 year) be advantageous?

The vested bonus shown is 288000.

I have purchased a pure term policy and would like to invest this amount somewhere else with a higher return.

Thanks and Regards!!!

Aditya-Contact nearest or servicing LIC branch for the same. There is no such advantage of completing half way mark of term of policy.

Thanks Basavaraj,

What amount can i expect in return?

Aditya-Around 5% to 6%.

I wanted to find out what amount will be returned to me as of date, if I opt out of this policy.

Aditya-Check my latest blog post “Check LIC Policy status without registration by Mobile Phone or SMS“.

This article doesn’t have any content related to Termination of policy and the amount refunded when the policy will be terminated.

Sorry for bothering again. Thanks for all the help!

Aditya-What content you need from my end to an individual policyholder when it is totally personal and one must have to get from LIC?? 🙂 People never do research while investing. However, they eyes wide open only after buying. What is the use??

I have Jeevan mithra Sum Assured _+ Vested bonus ie on surving on date of maturity.

I am paying premium from 1998 , Since Prathan manthri insurance has come I do not want to continue LIC policy , in such case how much I will get bonus on closing the policy.

I pay premium of 6200 , Sum assured mentioned is : 150000. , Right now in the portal says loan elibible is 138000.

is it wise idea to take loan or close the policy.

I am not interested for Death Benifit option.

Raj-It is up to you to decide whether to go for loan or close the policy. In my view it is better to close.

Dear Sir,

Good day

self is intending to start a limited endowment policy of LIC (830) for the sum insured of 10 lacks

please guide how much return should i expect at maturity of 16 years

awaiting yours please.

BasuNivesh ,

I run one policy JEEVAN SHREE-I (Table No. 162) per year i pay 36000 for 12 year but will mature after 20 year .

sum assured is 500000 . I start at 2008 . but will mature at 2028. can u please tell me how much i will get after 20 year . please.

thanks,

soumita

Soumita-Returns will be around 5% to 6%.

Hi,

I have a bhima gold and saral jeevan plan and i pay my premiums every month. This month both the policies have completed three years. My june premium is not deducted as i pay them through ECS and i hsve received a mesg stating that my june premiums have been adjusted. I dont hsve a clue with wht have my premiums been adjusted. Can you let me know would there be any bonus accured?

Noel-First check your bank statement. If it is not showing any such payment then get in touch with your nearest LIC branch.

Hi,

I am running two jeewan Saral Policies, Each sum assured is Rs. 250,000 since 2010…

Kindly let me know how much amount i will get on maturity….it means on 2030

Pls. reply, i am so much confused weather this policy should be continue or not…

reg

Jugesh

Jugesh-Why to confuse? If you are comfortable with return of around 5% to 6% then feel happy.

Hi Sir,

my query is i have taken a education load at the time of my graduation start’s, at the same time my banks wants a secure money so bank suggest to make a secure policy at that time my parents take the Plan 14(The Endowment Assurance Policy) Policy Term -25 Premium Paying Term -25 yrs & i have submitted my premium amount of Rs.10145/– i want to know the exact mature value & at what age i got this.

Awaited your valuable response.

Regards

Ankur Saxena

Mob:+91 9717474930

Ankur-Secure money and secure policy? It is secured income for them and you being trapped. There is no such rule that one must go for any policy buying while taking education loan. The return from this policy will be around 5%.

Sir I have endowment plan t 14 half yearly Premium 20958 ..I am continuous. Running it….it for. 10 years …start at June 2013 …what is the maturity amount…expected…

Jay-Go through below comments. You can get my answer.

Hello,

I got call from one company to suggest to avail my vested bonus after 3 years into my saving account. As per him, If I do not get so then 40% of amount will be given to LIC agenyt + rest to the company. Therefore, he suggested me to get all vested bonuses into saving account. Once it is done then every time it will be credited to my saving account automatically. Shall I proceed the same means :

1). Will that agent get amount of my bonus if I do not proceed.

2). If I proceed then what is loss of doing same?

I also dont want to share my bonus or any type of commission to agent. I know they get some amount. But, I am investing my money then why shall he get profit without investing anything.

Awaiting your response.

Thanks

Aashish-I feel it some spam call. Inform the same with insurance company regarding the same. Because there is no such system or product which the caller shared with you. Also, no insurance company will share buyers bonus either with an agent or on it’s own. It is a fake call.

Thanks Basavaraj. I have noted your suggestion. Can you please guide on after maturity will I get my complete amount (SA + Bonuses etc) from LIC without any deduction. OR some percentage will be given to agent. If so, then what will be percentage from my account ?

Aashish-After maturity you will receive all SA+Bonus etc to you without any deduction. There is no agent’s sharing on bonus. He will earn commission only on the premium you pay but not on the accumulated amount.

Thanks a lot again. Also, is there any term like “lock vested bonus” in LIC else it will be canceled for first year if it is not locked. It is considered that 10% of LIC policies is not locked, therefore customer looses additional extra bonus though at maturity,he gets all amount as suggested. But, for first year locking of vested bonus is must. Is there any such process/concept. ???

Aashish-There is no such facility which you may call “lock vested bonus”. This is first time I am hearing it. As I said, the person who is informing you completely misguiding you. Either believe me, LIC or the fellow who introduced to the new concept called “lock vested bonus”.

I had purchased lic policy jivan mitra table on 88 for 25 yrs of rs. 25000.00

what will be amount back on maturity?

Patel-There are numerous answers related to such endowment plans. Please go through them. The return will be around 5%.

I am planning to insure and invest 25,000/year for my daughter, please advice me that my below direction is correct.

For investment i am planning to put in PPF (rate of interest is 8.75%)

And for insurance which family floater scheme is good pl suggeest. Also i am not a smoker.

also want professional indemnity isurance (doctor)

pl guide me which is better.

Both the above will come under 80C and hence i can save my tax also.

I am not sure whether my direction is correct so please advice me your thoughts, please.

Dr Yogesh Nimonkar

Yogesh-When you say insurance, first clarify which insurance. Life Insurance or health insurance? In Life Insurance, there is no such plan called family floater. It is an individual plan. Also PPF is good, but I suggest to restrict around 30% of your investment to this, rest you have to invest in equity mutual fund.

Hello Sir,

I have taken one LIC policy – New Jeevan Anand ( T No. 815 )

Sum Assured ( SA) = 5,000,00

Policy Term = 25 years

Premium Payable = Rs . 5425 Quarterly

Policy Status : Normal Premium Paying Policy

I have two question .

1. In LIC website , I can see vested bonus amount as 0.0 ( ZERO ) . What does that mean ?

2. What would be the return on maturity after 25 years. ( I have gone through some sites and found out it would be nearly 11,000,00 ) . But i want to have a statistics from you Sir.

Could you please answer to my queries , so it will be clear for me for investing in LIC more in near future.

Thanks in Advance.. 🙂

Ashutosh-Bonus details get updated after completion of 3 years of a policy period. What your agent told about maturity value? Have you cross-checked before buying? If he shared that with you then please comment here to discuss further.

Thanks a lot Sir for clarifying queries.

At the time of policy enrollment, the maturity return was not been discussed as I was not aware of all. But i can remember , Agent was saying nearly double the money i invest,where it should be nearly 10,000,00.

Can you please clarify it , what would be the maturity value if i continue the policy for its full term.

Awaiting your reply .. 🙂

Asutosh-I understand your eagerness. But I am making you to learn few things on your own. Ask your agent once again by calling how much you get and how he arrived at the maturity value. Share the same, we discuss further.

Hello sir,

I tried to reach my agent , but he is out of city for 15 days. But I had a talk with my friend who had taken similar policy and he shared me the calculation what his agent shared during the policy enrollment.

S.A =5,000,00

Policy term = 25 years

As per bonus table , if Policy term > 20 years, then bonus rate is 48 per Rs. 1000 S.A

So here S.A = 5,000,00 , then Bonus for 25 years = (5,000,00 * 48) / 1000 = 24,000 * 25

= Rs. 6,000,00

Total amount = S.A + Bonus + ( some final bonus which i and my friend are not sure )

= 5,000,00 + 6,000,00 + Final bonus = Rs. 11,000,00 +

This is the calculation that has been shared sir. Is this the above calculation correct for my policy enrollment. 🙂

Thank you ..!!

Ashutosh-Yes, it is correct. But have you ever thought how much % of return you recived from this investment? It will be less than 8%.

Yes Sir. The % of return on investment is less than 8 %. Could you please guide me about any plan which can have good % of “guaranteed” return.

Thank you for the clarification. 🙂 Really it is a great help from you . 🙂

Asutosh-Again do not commit a same mistake by asking me a good % of guaranteed return. First understand your requirement like when you need or how much you need then finally go for product selection.

Sure Sir.. Thank you so much for all the valuable information that you shared. I will have a analysis before i go for any product . And for any query, I will keep posting. Thank you once again. 🙂

Hello Sir,

I have gone through your comments and I am sure you can help me with my investment.

I have Rs 50,000 cash and wanted to invest in Insurance policy with Good returns. I have gone through the LIC website, its all confusing. Can you suggest some policies wherein I can invest?

Sanjay-Insurance policy with GOOD RETURN is not possible. However, if your definition of GOOD RETURN is around 5% to 6%, then go ahead and invest in LIC Policies.

Dear Sir,

I have bought LIC policy 1997.

The Plan Term – 91/20

DOC 15.05.1997

Policy Amount Rs. 25000/-

Premium (Half yearly Rs. 631.00).

Can you guide when it will mature and how much amount i can get approximately.

Thanks & Best Regards,

Murali

Murali-Please calculate yourself by reading above post.

Thanks for your quick response

Total paid amount is 631.00 x 2 x 20 = 25240.00

I can get the above said amount (or ) It will double.

Regards,

Murali

Murali-In this plan you get Sum Assured+Accumulated Bonus.

Sir,

I am new to LIC policy. I have bought money back policy. The agent said i have to pay 12300 half yearly. The payment needs to be continued for 20 years. He also said i will be getting some % of amount every 5 years. The policy amount is 4 lacs. How much returns will i get after 20 years sir? Any further details required apart from these?

Thanks & Regards

Gaudham

Gaudham-Why the question after buying? Why not you did the same research before buying? Returns will be around 5% to 6%.

Hi,

I am paying Rs. 31,250 annually for Jeevan Shree (112) since 2003. Sum insured is Rs. 5,00,000. I am really keen to know what would be the amount at maturity in 2027-28. I am not sure what parts of GA, LA and FAB s my policy qualified for. Can you please shed some light on it for me. I am overseas and my policy documents are in India so cannot refer to them. Your expert help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Nihal.

Nihal-It is no special product. Just a typical endowment plan with first five years GA then normal bonus. So you can expect around 5% to 6% return.

Hello Sir,

I have taken a LIC Endownment Plan (table no. 14) in 2010 at the age of 28. There are 7 policies, each sum assured 2,00,000 and term is 20, 22 , 24, 26, 28, 30 and 32 yr with total premium of 50k yearly.

I have below queries:

1. which bonuses are applicable to my policies at maturity? (from above GA, LA, FAB)

I can see only vested bonus online. Can you please help me to calculate maturity amount?

2. how surrender value is calculated in this case as i have paid 5 premiums?

3. Is it ad visible to surrender theses policies and reinvest the money to get better returns?

Your advise is valuable.

Thanks in advance!

Thanks,

Deepa

Deepa-1) You are eligible for simple reversionary bonus and FAB. By following the above method, you can calculate yourself. It is not that much difficult. 2) Please contact to LIC branch to know about surrender value. 3) Advisible to surrender if you are not satisfied with returns of around 5% to 6%.

Hi,

I have New Jeevan Suraksha I (Table no 147) policy running from 2003 onwards for a period of 31 years.

My annual premium is around 10050(Age at that time 27) . So far i have paid 12 premiums & need to pay 19 more as per policy term.

My questions are.

1) What would be the NCO amount. I don’t see any figure on the policy.

2) What would be the approximate maturity benefits?.

3) My 80C benefit is crossed by other means & this policy doesn’t help in any way. Shall i continue paying the policy OR surrender the policy. How much will be the surrender amount.

4) Reason i ask is if i invest the same amount for rest of the term in PPF i feel the returns will be much more than that, since insurance coverage is very small.

What are your opinions.

Regards

Arumugam-This is the old plan. I don’t know much about this plan.

Dear Sir,

Thanks a ton for explaining the LIC feature in short and simple understading word.

Please advise me my LIC policies are ok for me in long term benefits or i am investing too much or too less. my current salary is 50 to 70 K/- P.M and i am looking now as per future benefit for my family.

please have a look my policies.

Policy Name Premium Enroll. Date

901(Health Plus) 1,500.00/-PM 04/2010

901(Health Plus) 500.00/-PM 02/2010

196(Jeevan Varsha) 8,092.00 /- half yearly 04/2010

103Jeevan Chhaya 1,086.00/-PM 11/2012

108Jeevan Surabhi1 1,508.00/-PM 11/2012

I am also bought the LIC for my Wife (103Jeevan Chhaya (1,029.00/-PM), 108Jeevan Surabhi (1,087.00/-PM), enroll date is 02/2012.

Once again thanks a ton.

Regards,

SS

Santosh-Why you bought all these plans? May I know the reasons behind each buying?

dear sir,

1st of all, thanks for all of your articles you shared with us.

sir, my queries are:

1. about my LIC policy Jeevan Saral. I am paying 15162 half yearly and my sum assured is 625000 for the policy term of 15 years. I have started it in 2009. so how much amount should I assume to receive after maturity.

2. kindly suggest a term plan for me. My annual income is 4 lac and age is 26.. currently i am with aegon religare- iterm which provide me SA of 50 lac with an rider and premium is 4560. but this policy is in grace period as I have not renew it fearing of its Claim settlement ratio. thats why I approaches to HDFC c2p + but they rate up my policy on financial ground and reduced my SA from 75 lac to 50 lac with lesser premium (5728) .. they harassed me a lot while giving policy as well as giving reply to any mail/complaint so I decline their policy rate up. Now sir, kindly give me an solution that should I continue with Aegon religare or switch to Bharti axa or someone else.

thanks in advance.

Arun-1) Please go through below comments. You find my answer. 2) If you are not ready to pay higher premium then better to continue. Do remember that your insurance also depends on your income.

Hello sir,

I had taken a policy for my son in year 1994.

Plan 102-25.

Sum assured 50,000.

yearly premium 2226.

May you please tell me what maturity amount can I expect from it?

Do Reply sir.

Thank you.

Prakash-Plan name?

LIC Jeevan Kishore

Prakash-You can expect around Rs.1,10,000 to Rs.1,25,000.

SIR I AM A STUDENT OF BCOM LAST YEAR ;DOING JOB WITH SALARY RS 7000.WHICH IS THE BEST POLICY

FOR ME TO INVEST.I EXPECTED TO INVEST RS 1500.PER MONTH.PLEASE ALSO ASK FOR RETURN.

Rahul-what is your expectation from this investment?

Sir, the article was very informative. Thanks for sharing.

Currently I am invested in money back policy of LIC for 20 yrs, wherein sum assured is 500000/- and they return 100000 (20%) every 5th year. Yearly premium is 31292/-.

In 20th year(maturity) 40% amount will be paid (200000/-) with “accrued bonus”

1) What is accrued bonus?

2) how much can i expect to get after 20years.

3) I had taken this policy only because someone had requested. From financial angle is it advisable to hold on? Are there better policies available in market?

Please advise i am confused.

Pavan- 1) Accumulated yearly bonus (they not pay interest on this).

2) 5% to 6%

3) If you taken this policy ONLY because someone requested then it suited to his need but not to YOU.

sir please tell me calculation formula for lic premium for example my term is 20 then sum assured 100000 age 18 the calculate yearly premium formula i required formula how this calculate

Prasad-There is no formula to calculate premium on any product. It depends on many calculations which actuaries, underwriters and others do to arrive at any premium rate of product.

My Jeevan Surbhi Policy (tab.106) is going to mature on 12th May, 2015. The details are as below:-

Sum Assured:- 100000

Premim term=12 years

Maturity = 15 years

Return which i received= 30000+30000+40000.

Plz let me know what amount i will get on maturity.

Mohd-Contact nearest LIC branch.

I took lic policy jeevan annand(149) for the twenty year starting from 2011 paying 2788 HLY. how much my maturity will be .Table,term and premium paying term are 149,75,20

how much i will get after maturity.

Bilal-Read below comments and you find your answer (returns will be around 5% to 6%).

I try but didn’t .kindly give it here. what you mean by 5 or 6% kindly give reply in details

Bilal-It is return on your investment you did.

Thanks for saving me and many B 🙂

I am planning to insure and invest 35,000/year for my family, please advice me that my below direction is correct.

For investment i am planning to put 30,000/year in PPF (rate of interest is 8.75%) and hence at the end of 15 years i will get nearly 9 lacs .

And for insurance i am planning to take ICICI prudential term insurance (30 years) for 50Lacs at rupees 5500/year so if something goes wrong in next 30 years for me then my family will get 50lacs. Also i am not a smoker.

Both the above will come under 80C and hence i can save my tax also.

I am not sure whether my direction is correct so please advice me your thoughts, please.

Thanks for your time!!!

– Sabha Mahadevan

Sabha-Don’t put all in PPF. Instead keep major portion (if your goal is more than 7+ years) into equity mutual funds also.

Hi,

my policy details :

Premium : 3218

Sum Assured : 200000

DOC : 04 Jun 2008

Plan :149

Term : 74

mode : QLY

If i surrender the policy now then how much money I will get. Can you plz help to calculate the receiving amount.

Thanks in advance

Ritesh

Ritesh-Contact LIC office.

Thanks Basa …

Will check with them.

sir,

may I know the Date backing for LIC new Jeevan anand (815) policy? my DOB is 20.07.1984. can I date back the policy, ie, Commerment date as July 2014 ? please reply.

Thanks & Regards

karthik

Karthik-I am not sure about this facility. Suggest you to ask LIC branch.

Hello B,

Your posts are really awesome and very helpful, thanks and congrats for doing such a service!!!

I am 29 and planning to put some LIC endowment plan(16 years) to cut my tax under 80C.

My agent said the below details,

24,000*16years = 3,84,000 SumAssured

Finally at the end of 16th year i will get nearly 10,59,840, he said. Can i believe his words?

Sum assured (A) = 3,84,000

Revisonary bonus (B) = 60/1000*16*3,84,000 => 3,68,640

Final Additional Bonus (C) = 800/1000*3,84,000 =>3,07,200

Total return after 16 years is A+B+C = 10,59,840 rupees

Will i really get 10,59,840 rupees after 16 years? I cannot able to believe his words and hence i am writing this, Please respond ASAP.

Thanks in advance!!!!

– Sabha Mahadevan

Sabha-First let him show the plan which provides Rs.60 bonus every year 🙂 His all calculations are exaggerated to lure you. Do you feel LIC endowment plans are best choice to save tax? What about your financial goals? For sake of tax saving, are you ready to scarify your goals? Think and decide, because it is your hard earned money.

Thanks for saving me and many B 🙂

I am planning to insure and invest 35,000/year for my family, please advice me that my below direction is correct.

For investment i am planning to put 30,000/year in PPF (rate of interest is 8.75%) and hence at the end of 15 years i will get nearly 9 lacs .

And for insurance i am planning to take ICICI prudential term insurance (30 years) for 50Lacs at rupees 5500/year so if something goes wrong in next 30 years for me then my family will get 50lacs. Also i am not a smoker.

Both the above will come under 80C and hence i can save my tax also.

I am not sure whether my direction is correct so please advice me your thoughts, please.

Thanks for your time!!!

– Sabha Mahadevan

Dear Sabha,

Thank you for your interest in ICICI Pru Life. If you need any details on our term plans, you can fill your details here http://bit.ly/iciciprulifetermplans and we will have one of our experts contact you to assist you with your queries.

Regards,

ICICI Prudential Life Insurance

Hi,

I have a Jeevan Anand (T. No. 149) plan. Policy Term 73 (Premium Payment term: 24) taken in 2005.

Premium is 34190/- paid yearly.

Sum assured is 8,00,000/-

Vested Bonus: 331200/-

I’d like to know what is the amount receivable if I were to pass away before 2029. Subsequently, what is the amount thereafter.

I’ve been reading conflicting views on the same and would like to have some clarification.

Would appreciate if you can help in this regard.

Many thanks,

Sam

Sam-What conflicting views you came across?

I’ve heard that LIC does not actually give you the whole amount. That you have to re-invest with them. Would appreciate if you could let me know the amounts. Thanks.

Sam-What amount?

Never mind. You don’t seem to understand my first post at all.

Sam-Is it? Or proper meaningful lines missed from your end ? 🙂

You ask what amount? Obviously, I’m asking about the amount receivable on maturity. It’s mentioned in my first post. Instead of asking questions aimlessly, why don’t you try helping out? And yes, forgive me if my queries are not accurate/do not contain the right terms. You see I’m not a Certified Financial Planner by qualification.

I asked for some help. If you’re not up to it, it’s cool.

Sam-Why so arrogance? I receive daily many mails, comments and personal calls. If I miss few then it human error. Hope you understand.

Dear Sir,

I Had a Jivan Anand Policy.

Purchased in 2012 ( at the age of 23 year )

Policy Amount : 200000/-

yearly Premium : 10311/-

Policy term : 21 year

Please tell me how much return i can Expect after 21 year????

Hi,

I have a money back policy dated : 28/03/12 of 200000/-. I would like to know that i am paying it qty i.e 3217/- ( i.e yearly 12868/- so for 20 years i will be paying Rs .257360/- . Now out of which i will get 40000 +40000 +40000 for 5 + 10+ 15 years i.e 20% of SA , and remaining 40% for 20th year + vested bonus…… so i will receive around 200000 only + v.b , but il be paying Rs. 257000/-. Loss of Rs around 57000/- ….

Sonam-What about vested bonus? You not considered that.

I purchased a money back policy (table-75) in 2011 for 20 years with quarterly premium of Rs 6485/-. Sum assured for the policy is 400000/- under money back of 4 installments i.e. 20%, 20%, 20% and 40%+ vested bonus.

My query is for the vested bonus. How much it will be at the maturity of my policy…?

Please reply.

Thanks.

Ajay-May be around Rs.4,00,000 (it is approximate value).

Hi Basu,

Any idea where I can find the FAB rates of LIC, I can’t seem to find them online.

Also, I read online (in a 2012 circular) that for 35 years term the FAB is 2200/- per 1000. So for a SA of 10L that comes to a bonus of 23L – that seems way tooo much, if you ask me…

Raja-Why you are so fond of FAB? Also please check your data, I think it is wrong. Rs.2,200 per Rs.1,000 SA????

Hi, Yes that’s so so very confusing! 2200 per 1000 SA. I can send you the link from where I got it if you want…

Raja-Sure… 🙂

Hi Basu,

Thanks for getting back to me…

Attached is the link I was referring to . Notice on the right side it mentions that for 35 years term the FAB is 2200/- per 1000. I tried some online maturity calculators as well and it mentions that the return from FAB is 23L (2300 * 1000).

Can you let me know what I’m missing here, am I reading the article wrong? How is it that I calculate the FAB bonus as so much?

http://licalipuria.net/userfiles/BONUS%20CHART%20%202012.pdf

Raja-It is exaggerated value shown by some agents. Believe on reality and check LIC site.

Basuji

Above FAB rates are correct

for 15 years Rs 20/- for 20 yrs 70/- 25 yrs 450/- 30yrs 1100/- 35 yrs 2300/- and for 40yrs 3550/- per thousand and it is paid on only maturity or death.

for example policy of Rs 10 lac for 40 years term then final addition bonus is Rs 35,50,ooo/-as per todays rate,actualy it is paid as on maturity date (what ever rate increases and it is fact rates are increases every 10 years 3 times)with sum assured and revisonery bonus and interiam bonus

ie toatal maturity is 65,18,000/- Sum Assured 10 lac + Bonus Rs 19,20.000/-(48 X 1000)+Interiam bonus Rs 48,000/- + Final Additional Bonus Rs 35,50,000/-

Prashant-Then can you provide me the return on this investment?

dear sir

I want the know regarding application for double accidental benefit. last 6 month ago my elder brother die to accidental by unknown truck till date case is open we get single claim from LIC . when we going for double accident benifit documents to LIC department they always taking about the written application form police station verification regarding accidental death but police station person we have already written in FIR please help for application which we return as document for death due accident.

i just want only application which we return for lic dept for double accident benefie

Hi Sir, i have been paying a endowment plan for past 10 years and its maturing this year

As per LIC agent they amount received will be apprx 13 lakhs(which was a 10Lakhs plan)

He had promised 18Lakhs plus earlier and now he says its not true

as there is document, what shall we do

and advice if its correct?

Sudhesh-Document of proof that you get Rs.18 lakhs??

NO, there is no proof from LIC

AGent had promised many things and now im stuck as i have 7 policies running with him

Now for 10 Lakhs policy return as per document by end of the year is 13Lakhs

But even when hes promised…its not true right? it was a fake confirmation ?

Sudhesh-Yes whatever he claimed is all false. It you who must now learn about your money and stay away from such agents.

Sir i am holding a jeevan anand policy and its yearly premium is rs 1200/- . now i have paid premium for 3 years and i want to surrender the policy. how much money will i get back

Sami-Contact your LIC branch for the same.

sir i have taken a Jeevan Shree 1 in 2001. it will mature in 2026. sum assured is 500000. what will be the maturity amount approximately?

Ravinder-You can check the same with LIC branch.

Sir,

I have a LIC Policy named JEEVAN ANAND. Its details are as follows: –

Annual Premium – Rs. 82,015/-

Sum Assured – Rs. 10,00,000/-

Accidental Benefit – Rs. 5,00,000/-

Tenure – 16 Years

Now, my questions are as follows: –

1) What will the amount that I will receive at the end of tenure of 16 years???

– As per the LIC agent who gave me such policy, I will get a sum assured of Rs. 10,00,000/- plus a bonus of Rs. 8,00,000/- plus some F.Bonus of Rs. 60,000/- which totals to Rs. 18,60,000/-. Further, he states that this policy covers lifetime risk & so my family members will be AGAIN receiving a sum of Rs. 10,00,000/- after my death, which totals to Rs. 28,60,000/- against my investment of Rs. 13,12,240/-. SO IS HE RIGHT, WILL I GET A BENEFIT OF RS. 28,60,000/- AGAINST MY SUCH INVESTMENT OF RS. 13,12,240/-??

2) What is the reason that the LIC Department do deduct the amount of 1st premium at the time of paying surrender value?? Is it so because the policy holder is not liable to pay the very 1st premium & such liability is of the LIC agent or for some other reason??

3) How can I get to know the details of BONUS VESTED, for such policy, till yet, into my LIC Account?

4) Can I withdraw such amount of BONUS VESTED till yet, in order to invest such amount in any other option so as to get a better return on such BONUS Amount?? Or do I get any benefit if I do let such BONUS amount with the LIC Department??

5) Am I missing with any benefits which I should receive but I am known about it ??

So, PLEASE GUIDE ME…..as it is URGENT

PLEASE……………….

Amit-1) It will be around 6%. 2) It is based on IRDA formula. The only reason is not to promote any surrender but to continue. 3) You can check it online by creating login to LIC site or visit nearest branch to know more. 4) You can’t withdraw. It will be kept there for the next 16 years only adding each year’s bonus. But no interest on this amount. 5) Unable to understand what you are asking.

Hi Sir,

I have taken new Bhima Gold (T.No. 179).

Total Monthly premium is 3051.

Tenure 16 years.

Sum Assured – 700,000.

Can you please tell me – is this beneficial? What will I get in total at the end of 15 years?

I will get 105000 at the end of 4th, 8th and 12th year. That makes a total of 3,15,000. At the end of 16th year – I will get the remaining 55%. Which means – I am getting back the total amount I am putting in – correct?

What is the funda on the bonus calculation? Request you to please explain.

Thanks.

Siddharth-I answered it so many times and will answer once again that returns will be around 6%. Bonus calculation is explained above.

Dear LIC,

I got a New Bima Gold Plan taken on 2011 for 20 yrs. And the premium is 29800 pA. SA= 800000. So could you please tell me what will be the return on maturity time which I can expect from LIC?

And please mention ASAP !!

Debashish-This being the typical endowment plan, you can expect around 6% return.

So the expected amount will come round off 10-12 lacs in maturity? do you think so? BAsu

Debasish-Point to be noted is return (6%) but not amount. If you are very much happy with kind of return then go ahead.

Hi Basavraj,

I am an avid reader of articleson your site basunivesh and find it really helpful. Thanks to guys like you, Ashal Jauhari,Manish Chauhan thousands of professionals like us are been shown the right path.

I wanted some assisstance regarding my investments.

I am a merchant navy professional age 34 yrs with annual income of 30 lakhs and i do not have tax issues as i complete my NRI days every year.My wife doesnt work30 yrs old and I have a daughter who is 2.5 yr old.

I have a term cover of 50lakhs which i plan to increase to 1.5cr…planning to buy LIC Amulya Jeevan for 1 crore. I have PPF a/cs in my and wife’s name and i am putting 3 lacs(1.5 lacs each).

I have equity exposure with SIPs around 15000 p.m. Direct stocks around 4.5 lacs.

MF exposure about 10 lacs(accumulated by existing SIP’s).

I plan to increase SIPs in MF’s to around 35000p.m.

My monthly expenses after accounting all insurance premiums, home loan EMI et..etc comes to 160,000.

I can still invest around 40k.

When i told this to my LIC agent he suggested I take a endowment plan wherein my premium would be 193000and insurance cover of 1 cr approx. and would get 1cr at 60 yrs of age.

The premium of my Jeevan Amulya plan is around 53,000 anually. This includes around 25,000 extra as I work on oil and gas tankers and risk associated to the job.

Should i go for endowment plan or the term plan..

Kindly suggest other avenues of debt investment other than PPF and post office

Kindly suggest if 35000p.m in SIPS is ok or should i increase .

Is LIC endowment policy as a debt investment a bad option??

Would u suggest me anyother avenues forinvestment or should I increase my equity exposure. I have a long term view atleast 5-7 yrs and have moderate risk appetite

Thanx in advance

Sunil-Do you still feel endowment plans are too good? Choosing debt, equity or other product must align with your goals. Again in debt category your investment a lot of time must match with debt fund’s style. So hard to specify any one particular product plainly. Rs.35,000 enough or not again depends on your goal time, return you expected and the goal amount. So it needs calculation which how can I say is enough or not. Yes you can consider LIC endowments as debt, but at the same time I am a strict NO category person to such products.

Dear Sir,

Sir, I want to have a health plan on my life, my wife and my son. Is jeevan arogya of lic a good choice. I have observed that LIC does not figure in the elite list of Health insurance provider in your blog( based on IRDA report). I am a resident of rural area where LIC is the only operator- be it life or health- so I am putting my bet on LIC but would welcome any suggestion from your end . Thanks a lot Sir.

Biplob-LIC’s plan is a typical investment+insurance+health benefit product. But not pure health insurance product. So I have not listed. For your information Health Insurance will be provided by general insurance companies but not life insurance companies. Discuss with your agent how the claims will be settled and how LIC health insurance is different with general insurance health insurance companies, then you notice the difference. Rest is left with you.

It is never wise to advise any policy holder to discontinue his insurance policy if the policy has continued for 3 years and has qualified for section 80 c, which is very vital aspect of life insurance. I am an LIC agent and often come across people who would like to discontinue their policies bought from pvt insurance cos on the ground that LIC has impressive claim settlement figures, but I warn them- you have qualified for sec 80c and hence, you are in safe zone. I trust this info proves useful to all. Qualifying for section 80c is the greatest feat for any life insurance policy.

Joydeep-Sec 80C is vital aspect or insurance coverage to one’s life is vital? Wow….what do you mean by qualification to be eligible to Sec 80C?? How sad it is that selling can also be done through this message.

Dear Basav,

Merely purchasing an insurance policy to ensure financial security of loved ones does not mean that ‘ my job is over’. When a policy runs for > 3 years from date of acceptance of risk , the policy is eligible for hassle free claim payment.- this means the policy holder has qualified for sec 80c of insurance act 1938. Hence, when I see that a person has got over the 3 year barrier – I advise him not to discontinue and trust the insurer. I think you deeply understand the sec 80c of insurance act 1938. Will be more benefited if you throw more light on this. Thanks.

Oh it’s not sec 80c but sec 45 of insurance act 1938

Joydeep-How your selling motto is more towards Sec.45 of Insurance act? Can you elaborate more what this sections deals and what are implications on one’s life insurance??

Joydeep-Why your concentration more towards Sec80C rather than insuring a family? Do you know with current changes in EPF rules, one can easily fill it up Sec.80C with EPF, PF, Term Insurance or any other short term goals related investments like FDs.

Sir, is the New Bima Gold(179) a with profit policy?

Bappaditya-Yes it is with profit plan.

Hello Sir, I have Jeevan Anand policy since 5 years and i have been paying premium . I have now moved to Singapore(most probably for long term), Is this policy still valid for me ? do i need to inform/update my whereabouts to LIC ? Am i still covered under this policy. Thanks in advance

Saurabh-Yes you are still covered under this policy and no need to inform.

Hello, we bought Jeevan Dhara (old) policy and it ahs matured and started getting annuity payments for the same every month. Is it possible to exercise the Notional cash option on this policy once it has started paying annuity payments? Also, I have another Jeevan Dhara policy which is yet to mature and also Jeevan Suraksha policy which is also not yet matured. Can you please advise if it would be better to exercise notional cash option on these or get the annuity payments till life and after death return of principal? Also, how can I know what is the principal component in each monthly annuity installment I am getting? Your article is very informative.

Thanks and regards, Aparna

Aparna-I don’t think you can exercise the NCO for the policy which is already paying you. But to rest of policies you can do so. Whether it is best or not depends on your financial requirement. First understand whether such pension makes you to sustain for life long?

Hi Sir,

I’m planning to take LIC Policy(New Jeevan Anand).I need more details about this policy.

Thx,

Manohar

Manohar-It is available here “LIC’s new plans 2014-New Jeevan Anand (No.815)“.

Dear Basu , I have taken Komal jeevan policy T.No-159 . Year-2005 . When I checked for Vested Bonus it is showing Zero .

1 lac is sum assured , Half yearly premium.

Please may I know whats the reason ?

Siddalinga-Komal Jeevan is a policy which have no bonus but guaranteed addition. So no need to worry about this.

Dear sir,

I have a Jeevan Komal Policy 2 lakh sum assured since 2007. (7 premiums paid) Is it wise to surrender the policy before the commencement of risk ie before 7th birthday of child. I will get 90% of all premiums less fist premium. I can invest this in SIPs so that I get a good money after 11 years. Very late i realized that i get the final maturity amount after 26 years.

Janu-First understand yourself how much loss you can bear and whether such loss can be accumulated by investing in other instruments. Then only proceed for cancellation. In my view it is better to continue as you already completed 7 Years.

Hello Sir, I have chosen Jeevan Anand last 2 year. I am now 28, and made a decision to invest nearly 36000 per year on this policy on guidance with some agent and he is regretting for the same. so I want to know that which type of profit & how many rupees gain after complete my maturity,

policy- jeevan Anand, Policy Term: 16 years ; Sum Assured: 5,00,000 ; Premiums Paid: half yearly ; Premium Amount: 17774.

Kindly guide us a best option here.

Thanks

Sudha-Now you have three options-Surrender it after 3 years (you may loose some portion of what you paid already), paid up (no future premium payment, but you receive the amount at policy maturity only) and third option is to continue till end get the return of around 5%. Decision is left with you.

how many rupees gain after complete my maturity

Sudha-If we consider 5% return then it will be around Rs.8,40,000.

Hi Sir How r u

I Buy one Education LIC policy here in Dubai in 2009 for My Son its a 5 Years plan & Sum assured Rs, 226,850/- I Paid until Jan 2014 now the policy payments are over, as per the policy documents we will get back between 18 to 22 Years each year 20% and on 23rd Year he will get bonus I would like to know how much bonus he will get?

Thanks & Regards

Maqsood-I am not aware about bonus values which LIC pay in Dubai.

Hi,

In PPF can I withdraw my whole maturity after 15 yrs.

Eg In 2014 Starting invest rs.30000/yr,

After 2029 The maturity will be around 9 Lac.Then Can I withdraw my whole maturity and close the PPF account?Will am be able to do so?

Pls answer me

Harpreet-Yes you can do so.

Hi Nivesh,

This is Imran here, age = 36 yrs (1978). I am an NRI & live in Kuwait (Middle East).

I have taken JEEVAN SARAL Policy in Aug 2013 through an LIC Agent in Hyderabad. That’s the only policy I have & nothing else.

The agent said you will get around 44 lakhs if you invest 60000 per year for 21 years. He showed me the chart that agents normally show to other people to lure the customers like if you invest some X amount you will get some Y amount back from LIC in Z no. of years & so on? Is this true?

Policy details are as follows:

Age = 35 yrs when this policy was taken Aug 2013.

JEEVAN SARAL 165 (With Profits)

Policy Term – 21 years

Premium = Rs.60050 yearly payment.

Premiums Paid – 1 (Aug 2013-July 2014)

Sum Assured = Rs 12,50,000

Maturity Sum Assured = Rs 13,93,200

Death Benefit Sum Assured = Rs. 12,50,000

Accident Benefit Sum Assured = Rs. 12,50,000

Date of Commencement= Aug 17 2013

Date of Maturity = Aug 17 2034

I have gone through your site regarding the questions that people have asked & I am happy there is someone out there like you to answer the questions.

Questions:

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1. As an NRI, which insurance policy or investment or mutual fund should I invest the money in, which gives good & high returns? I am new to this kind of stuff.

2. What is a Term Insurance Plan & Risk Coverage?

3. Have I taken the right LIC Plan or made a mistake? Is the money too much for this policy?

4. How much Loyalty Addition will be added to the policy after 21 yrs ( 6% or 10%)?

5. If I surrender the policy say after 5 yrs or 10 yrs how much amount am I going to get? Should I opt out the plan or continue?

6. Should I take a health insurance plan as well & which is the best?

7. I have a son aged 1 yr 6 months, which plan or investment is best for him to take so that his future is secured?

Kindly advise me. I need your guidance in this.

Thanks & Regards,

Imran

Email: [email protected]

Kuwait

Imran-What your agent showed you as return are actually indicative returns but not actual.

1) Investment usually depends on goal you have. So choose a product based on time frame of your goal.

2) Term insurance is pure risk coverage plan.

3) To be frank you made a mistake. Because return from this policy will be around 5%.

4) I already answered.

5) Better to discontinue after 5th year. Return will be marginal.

6) Health insurance plan is most equally important like term insurance. So buy it.

7) As I said above, suggesting a product involves lot of data sharing from you and a proper planning process. Hence unable to guide you at this juncture.

Hello Sir, My Dad has chosen Jeevan Anand by mistake last year. He is now 65, retired and made a decision to invest nearly 50,000 per year on this policy on guidance with some agent and he is regretting for the same. Here are the policy details and we are looking to surrender this next year as we need to pay premiums for at least 3 years for surrender. Could you please let us know an approx. Surrender value and any guidance you can give us?

Policy Term: 10 years ; Sum Assured: 3,00,000 ; Premiums Paid: 2 ; Premium Amount: 48,472.

Kindly guide us a best option here.

Thanks,

Madhan.

Gopal-Contact LIC branch they will guide you in better way.

Thanks

Hello sir,

Appreciate the great work you are doing.

I have two LIC policies

1. Rs 17000 PA for 20 yrs . sum assured is 375000. Maturity date is 2028. How much can I expect at the time of Maturity?

2. Rs 25000 PA for five yrs ( 2011 – 2015). Sum assured is 250000. How much return can I expect in this policy and

when can I withdraw the amount .

Siva-How much your agent told while buying?

Hello Sir,

I want to know about ELSS.

1.In ELSS how to invest and when?

2.Is it safe?

3.What will be the return?

4.Can anyone invest in it?(Like,Farmers,Individual, Students)

I i invest 10000 in it, then how much will I get in WHAT period…..?

Pls answer…

Thanx in advance…….

Malkeet-ELSS means equity investment attached with tax benefit. So if your time horizon is more than 7+ years then definitely you can test. I think I answered your first, second and third question. Yes the basic investment requirement for mutual fund applies to ELSS too. But do remember that it is tax saving tool.

Dear Sir,

Thanx v much for ur suggestion.

Now I want to take NSC for 10 yrs worth rs. 50000.

After 10 yrs the maturity will be 234350 at rate 8.70%.

It gives high return.

My question is that If I have to invest only once at opening or year wise?

And who can buy this product?

Pls suggest…

With warm thanx…

Sorry sir, investment is 100000 instead of rs. 50000…

Malkeet-It is one time investment. So obligation to invest from next year. But you are free to invest any amount the next year too. Anyone individual can buy this.

HELLO SIR,

I am non working…. pls give me the suggestion to choose policy with

high return with bonus… I am confused to choose the policy. I can pay 5000 to

7000 half yearly and I want Rs. 8 to 12 Lac in 15 to 20 years.I am 27 yrs old.

With thanx…

Malkeet-If you don’t have any income then first thing no insurer will give issue policy.

Dear Basavar Sir,

I have agri farm from which my annual income is about 4-5 Lac…

Then Still i can’t take policy.?

Pls reply ….. the best policy…

And can i take PPF with It.And if yes then pls suggest.

Malkeet-In previous comment you said not working. So I felt no income. Considering your income then I suggest you to have around Rs.75 lakh to Rs.1 Cr insurance coverage. So my only suggestion is to buy PURE INSURANCE product rather than a policy which combines insurance+investment. Choosing a product depends on your financial goals. You seems to be running behind product rather than understanding whether they actually match your need or not. So without knowing you properly I will not suggest you to go for PPF or any investment.

Hi Mr.Basavachari,

Your blog is a one time stop for all financial queries. Thankyou. Can you please suggest me a single premium investment plan in LIC with highest return. I want to hold it only for one year,however if returns are good i dont mind keeping it for a longer priod, basically i am compelled to take the policy only from LIC, hence want the best option only from LIC.

Regards – Eagerly awaiting your reply

Deepa

Deepa-My name is Basavaraj but not Basavachari 🙂 Insurance for one year? Please don’t enter even if you are planning to wait for long run. If you are very much comfortable with return of around 5% then go ahead with such LIC policies. Otherwise no need to combine your investment need with insurance. I know the person who is compelling you to buy LIC ONLY may be your friend, relative or neighbour. But it is your hard earned money, so if they compensate your expectation of more than 5% (return you receive from this plan) from their pocket then go ahead.

I had invested in two nos of LICI MARKET PLUS-1 JEEVAN ANAND bond scheme for 1 lakh during 2008.

Recently I had availed the maturity benefit of the said bond from LIC to cater my some urgent financial need.

Please confirm me whether the said additional matured amount shall be taxable under Indian Income tax act.

Please advise.

Prabir-Regarding detailed taxation, please visit my earlier post “Tax Benefits of Life Insurance“.

Hello,

On 09/01/2011, plan is NEW BHIMA GOLD 16years. i have paid the first premium and started the Policy. Can you explain clearly.. What does it mean “after completing 4 years” ??

After paying the 4 premiums – 09/01/2014 (or)

After completing the 4 years i.e., after paying the 5th premium – 09/01/2015

Please answer.. Might be most of the people getting same doubt

Thanks in Advance!

Naresh-It is money back policy. So after the completing of 4 years from start of policy, you receive some lumpsum which is % of sum assured you opted. Policy need to complete 4 years that is start of 5th year.

jeevan shree w/o profiy (w/o accident benefit)

this policy belongs to my mother

i am handling her portfolio and i seem confused in terms of returns and benefits

seeking for help !

details as follows

date of commencement -19-12-2002

date of maturity-19-02-2020

dare of proposal-31-01-2002

premium- 36959

sum assured-500000

Shllo-I hope your premium paying term is about to close. So better to continue.

Hi,

I took one policy of Money Back 20 years and quaterli Premium is 1662, and I want Know How much Amount I will get on Maturity

Thanks

Sandeep

Sandeep-Contact your nearest LIC branch.

I have two policies, how much I will get on maturity?

1. Jeevan anand- yearly payment 53208 from 2012 for 20 years, sum assured 100000/-.

2. Jeevan Saral- yearly payment 12010 from 2010 for 20 years, sum assured 250000/-

Please help.

Arvind-You not got my answer from below comments? Please re-read all comments you get my answer.

If u r paying 53208 premium per year for 20 year term thn how cm sum assured will be 100000

Neeraj-It depends on age also.

i have a JEEVAN SHREE without profit ( without accident benifit) from 2002 premium to be paid is till 2017 date of maturity is 2027. I am interested to know whether i would be able to withdraw it after 2017 or have to wait till 2027 & what would be the amount available by that period.

Pradeep-Withdraw in the sense?

Hi

Thanks for the informative blog.

i have the following plan:

– Jeevan Anand (149)

– commencement date- 2011

– Premiums paid – 4

– commencement age- 26

– Policy Term- 74 (Premium payment term – 21)

– Premium – 25319/- yearly

– sum assured- 5,00,000/-

Can u please tell me how much i will get on maturity.

Also what will i get if i withdraw now

Thanks

Azboot-Please go through below comments. You will find your answer 🙂

Dear Sir,

I want purchase policy please let me know which is the best policy for return money after 10 to 15 year

Raj-Policy for what purpose? Whether for insurance or investment?

for Investment purpose , sir i need high return policy please help me

Raj-Then stay away from LIC policies. Because they give you maximum of around 7% return. So if your definition of “HIGH RETURN” not fit with kind of return typical LIC policies give then better to look for alternatives.

Thank you Sir for help.

please tell me which LIC policy is better

Raj-Apart from LIC term plan, I will not recommend you any plan.

I have Plan – 815 – 21years

SA – 300000

D.o.c – 11/04/2014

D.o.M – 11/04/2035

Amount – 4306

What will be the return amount during maturity period?

Dhinesh-What your agent told to you?

Hello Sir,

I have three LIC policies via agent as below started on Sept 2013:

1) Jeevan Anand : Premium Payment Term 21 yrs, Policy Term – 66, – Monthly EMI Rs 2067- Sum Assured – 4.45 Lks

2) Jeevan Saathi : Premium Payment Term 26 yrs, Policy Term – 26, Monthly EMI Rs 1236- Sum Assured – 3.00 Lks

3) Jeevan Tarang (for my kid 1 yr old) – Premium Payment Term 20 yrs, Policy Term – 99, – Monthly EMI Rs 1086- Sum Assured – 2.5 Lks

My age is 34 yrs. Please advice after Prem payment term period what will be the expected amount these will return? Does these investments are good or not? Should continue ? if not then how to come out from the bad once?

Atul-Let me know what returns your agent quoted for all these policies.

Hi Basu,

I am having 2 nos LIC policy . 1 Jeevan Anand Policy. policy term 73( premium Payment term – 25). The monthly EMI is 5517. The Sum assured is Rs 1500000. The Commence ment date is 27/7/2010 and my age at that time was 27.

2 Jeevan Anand Policy. policy term 73( premium Payment term – 25). The half yearly EMI is 10226. The Sum assured is Rs 500000. The Commence ment date is 18/6/2008 and my age at that time was 24.

Can you please help me with the projected maturity amount and what is the tenure and when can the policy be surrendered?

Basabjit-Let me know whether both the products were chosen by you or by your agent. What were your expectations from both the plans while buying?

Dear Sir,

i Have Jeevan anand policy took froom july 2010,know almost 4 year complete.know my qustion i am login in lic website their showing vested bonus 70000 .can i get this bonus .if i need wht the procedure.my installement is 21 year.pls give clarification in vested bonus

Vaheed-No you can’t get this bonus. But if you need loan then they can provide you.

Hi,

Policy plan – Jeevan Saral. Commencement date March-2010. Sum assured 12,50,000. Premium payment 5104 monthly, term 21 years.

A quick question’s – If i redeem my policy in the 5th year (2015) what would be my returns.

if i redeem at the 10th year (2020) what would be my returns.

Also can please elaborate on the sum assured and the bonus and how much I would be getting.

I guess my agent conned me into into this policy.

Thank you.

Shoban-Go through the below comments. You will find so many discussion on this topic.

Hi. What is the approx IRR one can expect on LIC’s Jeevan Dhara 1/ Jeevan Suraksha 1 ?? I know, it depends on factors like the bonuses declared every year, but would appreciate if you could give a rough estimate for a term of 15 years. Thanks !

Anu-It will be around 6%.

I want to know the policy maturity return amount i get as, Plan- LIC New Bima Gold, Table No.179, Sum Assured- Rs.5 Lakhs, Date of Join: 26/12/2008. Term- 20 years. i got rs.50000 as money back for 4th year. So i want to how much get the loyalty bonus for this policy and also total amount i will get after 20 years maturity. Waiting for your response.

For that policy, Quarterly Premium- Rs.4337. For 1 year Rs.17348.

Selvaganesh-This is typical money back plan but only exception is little bit low premium compared to other money back plans. So nothing special in returns. You can expect around 6%.

Could you explain the approx amount sir?

Selvaganesh-For that I need to calculate. If you need then please send me mail.

My Email Id: [email protected]

Kindly calculate and send it to my email. Thanks for your response.

If i pay 4 lakh LIC policy for 18 years, then how much will be the return amount to me.And tax will be .

Dinesh-Which LIC policy??

jeevan amrit policy. I had no proper idea of this polices. Just says about this.

Dinesh-It is typical traditional plan. So return will be around 6%.

Thanks a billion for this detailed review, Basu.

Can you please let me know about policies which have no profit and no accident benefits?

I have the below policy which I am not sure of what applicable benefits (LA, GA, FAB etc.)

– Jeevan Shree taken in 2001 (Table No. 112 20 12 without bonuses, without accident benefit)

Sum Assured – Rs. 5,00,000

12 terms with Rs. 35,651 annual premium

maturity in 2021

Vijay-Please let me know what it meant by “no profit and no accident benefit”.

Hi Basu, Thanks for the reply.

The policy does not get yearly bonuses announced by LIC. It also does not cover accident insurance.

This policy was taken in 2001. I have no clue on what would be the returns in 2o21 🙁

Vijay-Bonus will not be payable to you yearly. But it will get accumulated. Check your bonus accumulation with LIC officials. You will come to know. How you come to know about this policy not covers accident insurance?

Hi Basu,

The policy document heading say it as “Jeevan Shree 112 20 12 (Without Profit) Without Accient Benefit”

Vijay-Jeevan Shree is with profit policy. Please check once again.

That is how it is printed on the policy document!!!!!

Hi Basu,

My parents have a lic health plus plan and they are paying a premium of 7,500/yr.

They started the policy on 2009.

My dad is 54 years old now and my mom is 51 years old.

Can we continue this policy till their age 65 ( ie till the policy matures)?

Will we get the actual amount paid at the end of the policy ? is it fine to continue the policy till the end?

waiting for your reply…

Shilesh-First reply to my questions.

Shilesh-What is the purpose your agent told while buying this plan?

He told like we will be having the health coverage throughout this policy period and the total money paid during these days will be paid back at the end of the policy..

Shilesh-But what about the claim process of health?

i dont understand your question.. But then Claim benefits will be available .. that too percentage of claim amount will be based on the criteria (like the list of diseases and treatment expenses ) which they mentioned..

We havent apply for any claim till now.. We thought of closing the plan now.. but then the agent told we wouldnt get the total amount paid now and the deduction is due to the age risk. But , At the end of the plan, we would be getting the total amount..

Is it true? if we surrender the policy now, we wouldnt get the amount paid for these 5 years??

Also, As per the policy, the money we pay will also be invested in health funds. so ideally we should get more money than what we paid na??

Shilesh-Let us separate the issue, how about buying health insurance separately and investing the rest in Postal RDs or Bank FDs…let me know which will give good return? I am asking so many questions to make you to think twice 🙂

Its obvious that Fds and RDs will give good returns..

We had bought this one because of health benefits and the amount returns.

But now as per the agent’s sayings, we are anxious that the preclosure of this policy gives only lesser amount than what we paid and is due to the age risk of my parents.

So in this situation, we are not sure if we can continue this one or to close this one?

Also, is it true that we will get atleast the actual amount paid at the end of the policy?

Shilesh-Now let us discuss further. This is a typical ULIP (market linked) policy which offers few health protection. Suppose you are paying Rs.100 as premium then in first year only Rs.70 get invested, rest Rs.30 will be expenses. From second year onward expenses will be 6%. Apart from these charges there are other charges like fund management charges like 1.25%, admin charges are Rs.75 for first year and Rs.25 afterward and mortality charges.

Why you buy any health insurance? To protect yourself in case of health emergencies. But does LIC have such set up to make such claims cashless? A Big NO. Second thing as it is market linked and with high expenses, your return on this policy depend on market volatility. Why to complicate your life?

Simply buy health insurance for your parents and rest put it in safer products (as your parents can’t take risk).

Thank a ton basu 🙂

BTW, can you suggest us any good health insurance plan and its benefits??

Shilesh-Health insurance is personalized product based on one’s need. So it is hard for me to name products.

hi Basu,

Can you pls let me know what does JeevanAnand provides (out of – Bonus, GA, LA, FAB) at maturity?

Meeraj-What is your requirement from this policy?

Sir,

One of my policy has got matured,in which the return ,which I’m getting is not satisfactory.Now I want to invest 2,000 /month for 15 years .So where should I invest to get good returns.

With regards.

Snigdha.

Snigdha-Before proceeding may I know how much life insurance do you have, emergency funding placed or not, you have health insurance or not??

Hello Basavaraj,

I have taken Term Plan from Aviva for 50Lakhs for a duration of 35yrs and premium amt as Rs.4494/-.

Started this in April 2013, but later after paying first premium i felt it might not be that useful.

Could you please suggest me whetehr to continue this policy or stop paying.

If possible could you please let me know what is the claim % in AVIVA?

Any update on above query?

Satya-Why you felt so? You can check the latest claim settlement at “HERE“

Basavaraj,

Thanks for ur response!!!

So ur asking me to continue with teh policy…..With Aviva for teh same coverage?

sir i have taken 2 jeevan saral policies in my name back in 2009 for ten years THAT IS ONE POLICY OF rS.1225 /qUATERLY FOR TEN YEARS AND I GET rS.85,254 SIMILARLY ANOTHER POLICY OF RS.766/QUATERLY AND FOR TEN YEARS AND GET RS.53227. IS IT TURE OR NOT I WANT YOUR OPINOION REGARDING THIS PLZ REPLY ME ON MY MAIL ID GIVEN ABOVE

Sunil-First let me know who quoted and how you believed, do you have any data to share the same with me?

i have taken 2 policies of jeevan saral for ten years of rupees 766/quqterly and 1225/quaterly at the time of taking this the agent siad me that for 766/quaterly for ten years i get rupees 53227/- and for 1225/quaterly i get rupeese85254/- is it correct or not becoz i lernt someone saying the jeevan saral polivy not giving the said amount plz sujjest me in this regard

Sir,

I have taken 3 policies (Jeevan anand etc.,) with LIC and have been paying the premium for the past 3 years. Due to various commitments I would want to stop the policies and go for a term insurance instead. If I surrender the money I get back is very minimum. I also heard that I can stop paying the premium and not surrender the policy and can wait till the tenure which will give a better money back for the premium that I have already paid.

so my question is

1. Is it possible that I just stop premium payments and not surrender the policy asking for withdrawal and wait for 17 years (tenure of 20 minus 3 years gone by).

2. What is the process to achieve this.

Thanks,

MSS

Mos-Yes possible only if you paid 3 years full premium. But that too less. Instead I suggest you to surrender and come out. Because paid up will be useful when you are at end of term but not at beginning. Having Rs.80 now in your pocket is worth than having Rs.100 after 17 years. You visit your nearest LIC branch they will guide you regarding the process or surrender.

Thanks Very much Sir,

Yes, I have paid full 12 quarterly installments adding upto Rs. 2,30,000 and surrender value is working out to be around Rs, 40,000. (i.e., (total premium paid – 1st year’s premium ) * 30% …. so like you said, even If I am getting 50% more after 17 years it would be just 60k after 17 years which may not mean as much as 40k would mean now 🙂

I would go for withdrawal.

Thanks,

MSS.

Mos-Better than late 🙂

dear sir,,

thankyou 4 ur valuable feedbeck 4 all.

sir,my quaries are as follow-

1.in 2013 i had taken jeevan aanad (profit+insurance)policy of 10,00000 my premium is 50102 p.a..completed date of policy in 2033..i want to know,how much amount i ll get after maturity,

2.another 5 lakh policy i had taken in 2014 of jeevn anand of rs 5,00000 and my prem is 29155 p.a….for 20 yrs

should i continue both policy or i can surrender any one..plz clear my doubt

Piyush-Are you get satisfied if the return from both policies around 5% to 6%??

no sir,m nt satisfy with this return,,,bt 4 insurance and some return i want to continue any one of them,,

m planning to continue 50103 p.a premium for 20 yrs,,

my age is 27,and i took dis policy on last yr,my maturity date in 2033,,,

so,i want to know hw much amount i ll get at that time..

and for second policy for jeevan anand,5lac, i will surrender,when i ll pay 3 yr of premium,my premium is 29155,at that time hw much amount i ll recv,,should i leave for maturity

sir,,m waitng 4 ur reply

Piyush-If you are not satisfied with return then why you want to continue?

Age 41; planning to go for New Jeevan Anand (T-815) with accidental benefit

Sum assured: 15 lacs

Term : 15 years

per annum: INR 130000 (approx)

Is it worth to go (or) suggest any other plan

Till now I don’t have any policies whatsoever.

Jaganathan-Why you want to buy this plan? What are your requirements?

For Investment and risk cover

Dear Basu

One lic agent suggest me for JEEVAN ANAND(WITH PROFITS)(WITH ACCIDENT BENEFITS). plan149

sum assured : 20lac

premium yearly : 91296

for 25yrs

means i am investing near about 22.83lac

what will be the return after 25yrs.

is it pension plan?

Pravin-Your agent’s first wrong advice was claiming to be this as pension plan. Second thing return from this plan will be around 6% to 7%. So by investing 25 long years you satisfied with kind of return then you can go ahead. My strong advice is to stay away.

THANKS..ONE MORE QUESTION I WANT TO ASK…IF I WANT TO WITHDRAW LIC POLICY BEFORE MATURITY OR AFTER 3 YRS WHAT WILL BE PAYBACK

Pravin-It depends on individual case. So I can’t say generically. Better you contact your nearest or servicing LIC branch.

Dear Sir,

I am aged 30 years and I recently took a LIC policy namely New Endowment Assurance Plan 814 with a sum assured of 12 lacs. The agent through whom i took the policy is known to me. He told me that I will get 45 lacs after 30 years i.e., by completion of 60 years of my age and that this amount can be converted into pension at that time at a rate of 24-25 k per month depending on the choice of the policy holder whether to take the amount in hand or covert the said amount in pension plan. Now many friends and articles on web say that this is not a good plan, but I think its okay keeping in view that I want this sum in a distant future, although i am aware of the fact that here the benefit rate is only 5.8% which is less compared to other policies.

Please suggest if the above claims made by the agent are true, or I am just cheated.

Thanks

Mutahir-They are totally false. But strange to know that you are satisfied with 5.8% of return 🙂 Why to invest with LIC, simply keep it in your savings account (where banks offer around 5% to 6% return)? Is it so simple right??

Thanks. I just want to know the amount that I will get at maturity of New Endowment Assurance Plan 814 with a sum assured of 12 lacs and an annual premium of 36000 and if the amount can be converted in pension or not

Mutahir-How can I say you? It is typical traditional plan. Your agent totally misguided you. Even if it fetches you around Rs.25,000 per month pension after 20-25 years then what is the value of that amount? Please do serious thinking on your investment.

Hello Sir,

I’m confused about LIC policy. I just want to know which plan should I take and how much amount should be invest per month to get best return after 20 yers.

Sandeep-None of them are good. Better to buy term plan (if you want then go with LIC and buy online) and rest invest according to your financial goals. This will give you more return than a typical traditional plans.

Dear Basu,

Kindly advice me the appx. amount that I am going to get on maturity of my Jeevan Anand (149) policy in April 2015.

Sum Assured : Rs. 12 Lacs

Half Yearly Premium : Rs. 62,489

Policy Started on : October 2003

Policy Maturity on : April 2015

Policy Term : 12 years

Thanks & Regards

Shekar

Shekar-It will be around 5%. Are you satisfied with the kind of return??

Thanks for your prompt reply. Honestly, I am not at all happy with this 5% return. It was a well executed trap by my relative (who is an LIC agent)!!

Regards

Shekar

Shekar-You just come out of the plan and I know you may receive some lesser to what you paid. But do remember that this is the penalty you are paying for your ignorance. This will make you always cautious while buying any financial product next time.

Please tell me how did you arrive at th figure of 5% return.

Abhay-Follow the above process and calculate yourself. If you stuck somewhere then we discuss further. Is it good than getting readymade answer from me?? 🙂

sir,

My self holding Jeevan Tarang started from May 13 & paying premium hly, hope its profit plan. But while checking in net bonus is mentioned as zero. Any minimum period of commencement date is there to provide bonus? how can I check it, its in profit plan?

Sakthi-Your policy still not completed at least one year too, then how can it shows the accumulated bonus? Yes it is a profit plan (means bonus will get add every year).

Hi Basu sir,

Please help me on this. I have taken two LIC Jeevan Anand-149 plans with SA of 4Lc(2011) and 5Lc(2013) respectively on my 22nd & 24th Age. Premium for both are paid Half Yearly. Is there any possibility for me to reduce the amount insured in it, so I can go on invest in any other viz.,PPF

Your assistance much appreciated Sir.

Krishna-In my view you can extend the term of plan. But I am not sure about this. So check out with LIC branch.

Excellent platform of knowledge sharing.

Shivanand-Pleasure 🙂

I took a jeevan anand policy in the year 1995 for 20 years for Rs. 5 lakhs. How much amount I will get in 2015?

Thanks

Praveen-Return will be around 6%. If need confirmation then visit LIC office.

Dear Basu,

Following is my investment in LIC Plans

Age at time of commencement – 26 Y during 2011-12

Policy Name Policy No Term of Policy SA Enrollment Year Premium Frequency

Amulya Jeevan 190 30Y 50L 2011-12 6962 Half yearly

Wholelifetime Policy 5 35y covering 54Y 10L 2011-12 12182 Halfyealy

Jeevan Saral 165 35Y 13L 2011-12 31538 Half yearly

I would like to understand few things here

1. My coverage according to the working of LIC agent during the time of purchase said that my coverage goes in excess of 1 Cr over a period of time

2. At the age of 60, i am suppose to get another 1Cr plus based on 6% return.

How much of all this is really true??

Also how are these plans performing really and are they good to hold till maturity

Ashish-1) Calculating the insurance requirement depends on your income, your dependents goals, your current debt and so many things. But plainly speaking, it should be around 15-20 times of yearly income+any existing debt.

2) I am unable to understand your second question. What do you mean by getting 1 Cr from term plan??

Except Amulay Jeevan, I am not a big fan of other two plans 🙂

hi Basu,

Have been reading a lot on insurance vs investment and more on jeevan anand here – I have one specific Q regarding this. If Jeevan Aannd is considered as a pure investment instrument and assuming there is no risk to the life in the term, then would Jeevan Anand not be a better choice. Understand that Term insurance covers the risk but what is the planning in case of no risk ?

Considerations :

Term : 16 years

SA: 5 Lc

Policy : New Jeevan Anand

Annual Premium : 37313

PPF : 8.5%

As suggested on this portal many a times, I am considering to take a term insurance for a premium of Rs.11,000 and invest the remaining amount in PPF. Rs. 11000 term insurance in lic would cover a policy of ~25 lc while for other online insurance providers it will be a lot more. However, we are considering the cover here as the assumption is no risk in 16 years .

My Understanding of Numbers :

Total Amount Deposited in PPF : 421008 ( 26313*16 )

Total Cash with interest via PPF : 903081.44

Net Gain via PPF : 306073.44 ( TotalCashAsAbove – PPFInvestment(26313*16) – TermInsuranceCost(11000*16) )

Total Premium Paid in Jeevan Anand : 597008

Total Cash via Jeevan Anand : 844000 ( SA(500000) + Bonus( 344000 = @4300/lc/yr*16) )

Net Gain via Jeevan Ananad : 246992 ( TotalCashAsAbove – Premiums(597008) )

So, the difference in these two options is only 59,081 ( <60K )

However, Jeevan Anand provides a 5lc return at risk after the policy term while PPF will not.

Assuming no risk, should one not invest in Jeevan Anand now and keep the risk cover later ( hoping that all will be well ) . However, I agree to have a term insurance to cover any kind of risk in any stage of life.

This query is mostly on basis of investment with no risk in PPT.

BTW, this blog gives a good understanding of ideas that readers bring up and your explanations obviously. Good.

Thanks.

Ram-Thanks for your valuable feedback. From your analysis we find that PPF have edge over this plan for about Rs.59,000. Is it not good return? Second thing you are claiming to neglecting for insurance but again pointing towards 5 lakh insurance benefit from Jeevan Anand. Where as if you opt for term insurance your dependents are secured. In both the case Jeevan Anand will provide you lesser return than PPF with lesser life risk coverage than actual in need. So in what way this holds good. Also if my waiting period is 16 years why can’t I stay away from equity?

I am not claiming the 5lc from jeevan anand as a risk claim but just as a ROI.

~60K is an immediate return. Term plan is max for 70 years. Age at whcih Jeevan Anand ends = 50 ( 34 + 16 ).

In this case, there will be a term insurance cost for the next 20 years.

Term Insurance cost = 2,20,000 ( 20yrs * 11000 ) No Risk coverage after 70 years.

At the end of 16 years, PPF yielded ~60K more. Even if I invest ~60K for the next 20 years @ 8.5% this will yield Rs. 306722.00.

Net Gain = ~86,000.00 ( 306722 – TermInsuranceCost_220000 ). I am investing only 60K as I have tried to bring PPF and Jeevan Anand at par after 16 years.

However, Jeevan Anand would give Rs. 5lc at Risk any time after 50 yrs. Especially, in this case when the person is active until 70 years then I feel there is no real gain.

Ram-Also do you feel one must have insurance coverage at the age of 65 yrs to 70 yrs??

yes if possible. Any other opinion ?

Ram-When the person in question is almost started retirement age and he is not earning. His income is depending on retirement corpus he created. Then what is the use of insurance at this age?

I am taking lic policy(Jeevan saral-with profits-plan no.165) for my father name, nominee is my mother and my father age is 49 . Every three month i am paying Rs.2450 ,

And this is 16 years of policy. Maturity sum assured -Rs.130352 Death benefit sum assured 20000, I have started to paying from 20/11/2012. Then i need to pay till 19/8/2028 . When I login to online lic policy account there is vested bonus showing Rs.0(zero). how to see my bonus amount till now? Or after 16 years i can able to get only Rs.130352 -MAS or DBA – 20000 or Accident benefit sum assured – 20000. ? I am little bit confused to calculate for this amount and how to know about bonus till now..Is this rite policy which i am taking now for my father’ name?

Harish-Jeevan Saral not offer you bonus. Instead it will offer you Loyalty Addition (one time payment) based on your MSA. That is the reason bonus information is showing as zero. I hole my post on Jeevan Saral will guide you in better way and link for the same is “LIC’s Jeevan Saral-Why so much confusion?“

1. I have gone through your link , I cannot understand the things fully. but i got little bit idea about this policy now. i am grateful to you. One more question is LA will be provide based on MSA, I know my fathers MSA when i took this policy. if i understood correctly about your point which you mentioned in the link above reply, MSA is rs.130352 Which is mentioned in policy paper, Every 3 month once i am paying rs.2450 , then the policy period is 16 year, For 16 years i am paying around Rs.156800(if the policy get matured after 16 years). What is benefit over this , Even i cant get my original amount amount what i am going to pay till 16 years rite? can u clarify about this …

2. In that link you said LA will be calculated each Rs.1000 of MSA , that means , (130352 * 300)/ 1000 as per your link, then total amount will comes around rs.39105 (Total LA after 16 yeara)+ rs.130352 (MSA), this is what i will get? Note: LA for 16 year policy may rs.300 for every rs.1000(you mentioned )

Harish-1) Yes you will receive more than what you paid. But how much is the question after investing so long period of 17 years. Return from this policy will be around 6-7%.

2) If I consider your MSA as Rs.1,30,352 and LA at Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA (I considered Rs.500 LA because your plan is for 17 years but not 12 years like what you did and premium range is within Rs.50,000 per year). So total LA will be Rs.65,176. Within LA you also receive the said MSA.

I invest every three month Rs.2450 that is Rs.830 per month or rs.10000 per year (totally 17 years of investment). The same amount if i Invested in PPF i will get more amount rather than what i am investing in lic

after 15 years(basic terms of ppf), Is it rite to do that?, Moreover if ppf is good one means i have planned to invest more money in that instead of lic in feature ? may i know your opinion about this?

Harish-Certainly PPF holds good than these typical traditional plans. But do remember that maximum limit is Rs.1 lakh and at the same time don’t forget to buy the pure term insurance plans for your life risk coverage. Also investing all your savings in a single product is not a prudent way. Spread it across other asset classes based on your goal and risk appetite.

Thank you for your kind reply and opinion , last but not least one final question” pure term insurance plans for your life risk coverage” the statement you mentioned in your reply sir, what is meant by this? can you say some sample lic plan which comes under this category.

Harish-They are called Term Insurance Plans. You can get the detailed information about available plans in my post here “Best Term Insurance plans in India (After 1st Jan 2014)“.

Thanks a lot …Now got some ideas about these lic policy after gone through links what and all you sent and your legitimate explanation. Now I feel Sharing knowledge is billion dollar worth after reading your website and blog. I am using your website whenever I feel stuck with financial related info. I know it is not a simple thing to understand all financial sector related information overnight. But you are doing great job through this website. I wish all success. I have lots and lots of doubt related to these types of investment . With your permission can i ask those question whenever i stuck with these things?. why i am asking this is because i have already asked too much question . I don’t know whether these questions silly or worthy one.But for me it is initial stage and more worthy i feel.

Harish-Thanks for your kind words. You are always welcome to ask any doubts. Because I may also learn a lot of things by your questions. So keep commenting 🙂

Hello Basu,

I have taken Jeevan Anand LIC plan in 2013 for 25yrs for sum assured of 15lacs

So in the year 2038 I will get Sum assured+FAB= Rs.31,87,500.And adding LA to it, I will get upto Rs.35lac in the year 2038 right.

Kiran-How you arrived at the amoung of Rs.31,87,500? Can you elaborate more??

Hello Basu,

Last year bonus rate was Rs.47/Rs.1000 of sum assured.

I hav considered Rs.45 as average bonus.

(Rs.15lac * Rs.45 )/ Rs.1000 = Rs.67,500

As my plan is for 25 yrs.Bonus will be Rs.67,500 * 25 = 16,87,500

Now (Sum assured + Bonus) that is Rs.15lacs + Rs.16,87,500 = Rs.31,87,500

So in the year 2038 I will be getting Rs.31,87,500 right.

Is my understanding correct.

Kiran-Your calculation is correct. Now the question is how much % of return you receive from this investment. Can you do this for yourself and let me know, else I will do it and let you know. If that said return % satisfy you then go ahead.

Hello Basu,

I don’t have idea as how much % of return I get.

But I want answer for two things from you.

1.According to the calculation I will definitely get Rs.31,87,500/- + LA for sure right and there won’t be any variation in this right?

2.Can you please tell me how calculate % of returns?

Kiran-There may be slight variation. Let me know how much is your yearly premium towards this plan, so that I can calculate and let you know the return %.

Hi Basu,

I pay early premium of Rs.60,000/-

Kiran-In that case if I consider term as 25 years, yearly payment as Rs.60,000 and return on investment as Rs.31,87,500 then return on investment will be 5.77%. This is less than any post tax return on normal FDs or even from PPF. Now decision is your’s. I left LA as I don’t think it will change your return drastically even around 0.50% also.

Hi Basu,

Thanks a lot for the info.

Just curious to know incase if I keep same 60,000/- every year inPPF how much money will I get back after 25yrs.

If this makes big difference then its ok for me still loose my first premium of LIC as I can’t claim it now right

Hi Kiran,

Sorry Basu Sir & Kiran to interrupt your communication. I am not a financial Planner. I get info by searching on internet. When you invest in PPF a/c you will get 8.7% interest.

If you invest Rs 5000/- per month then after 25 years you will get Rs. 5284273/- tax free amount. This amount is about 65% more than Jeevan Anand amount. So please think again. Am I right Basu Sir?

Kaustubh

Kaustubh-You are always welcome to share your knowledge on this platform. Even I too eager to learn from all of you. Whatever you said is true and that is why I always recommend PPF over LIC when people think of security and tax saving.

Hi Basu,

I have Jeevan Anand T149, 20 bonds of 100000/- each with yearly premium of 61036/- for 23 yrs. I have already paid 9 yrs of premium. I had taken this plan without really going into detail. After 3-4yrs I realised that this is not a very good plan at the same time I thought LIC is not a medium to invest money and expect returns its basically a insurance policy, so I open a RD account every year with 5000/month and pay the premium after RD maturity (Ofcourse I lose on tax but I gain something).

Do you think the way I see it is correct and should still continue till maturity? Please give me your opinion on this.

Raghav-You still need to go for another 14 years in committing this mistake. So in my view it is better to come out (I know surrender will be less but think that you are paying penalty for wrong investment decision). Start a fresh.

Hi again,

If I surrender it now I will lose a lot, I have paid 549324/- and will get only 146486/-.

I just want to put in these words so that people read it…

The 20 bonds that I have do not mature at once, the 1st bond matures at 23 yrs the 2nd at 24 yrs so on…I can close the bonds as it matures or allow it till all my bonds mature ie at age 65.

From the date of first bond maturity I will start getting bonus payouts every month this is where the calculation start getting messier… The print given to me by the agent said it will be roughly 20000/- monthly….

Since inception the bonus has increased from 44 to 48 so worst case consider 48 till maturity ie 2027.

Lets consider the bond which matures at 2027 which has a yearly premium of 4483/-

The total bonus accrued = 108600/-

Premium paid for the bond till 2027 = 103109/-

Total value of the bond on maturity = 211709/-

Now if I do a RD @ 8.25% for 23 yrs for 4483 annually the maturity value will be 305614/- which will get a tax cut of 30% for me, hence in hand I will get 213929/-

In all I will lose around 2000/-

My financial advisor who is not an LIC agent tells me to continue the plan….as he sees that I will not lose a lot as the plan is well laid out.

Raghav-Why can’t your planner not uttered a single word about PPF which is excellent tax exempting option currently and equal to LIC?

Hi Raghav,

I am not a Financial Planner. I googled around and get information about PPF. If you invest annually in PPF account Rs. 4483/- ( At this time int rate @8.7%, if you invest 9 yrs ago rate was higher) you will get after 23 yrs Rs. 3,26.000/- . This amount is totally tax free. So please keep in mind before investing. The agents are misleading us ( I am also get mislead by agent) dont believe them.

Kaustubh

Kaustubh-Well said 🙂

Hi Basu,

I am having 10 lic policies (details of them mailed to you). I want to stop paying premiums. But my problem is I take loan on each policies. So is it possible to stop paying premiums and receive paid up value or surrender with minimum loss?

Also what is the difference between LIC Amulya Jeevan & HDFC Click2 Protect.

So please reply

Kaustubh

Kaustubh- I gone through your mail. But I just returned from my holidays. So once I get time then will reply to your mail.

Basu Sir,

Pl reply my email.

Kaustubh-Hey sorry for delayed reply. I sent mail now check it 🙂

Hi Basavaraj,

i have 2 doubts .

1. i am inversting Rs.30000 in LIC samruthi plus on Oct 2009, can i surrender now is better? or can i wait few yrs? which one is get more maturity value?

2. for LIC policy annual premium, hw much percentage of Late fee ( delay paid) they will chage it ?

plz reply

Hi,

I am planning to purchase new Endowment policy from LIC,

Sum Assured: Rs: 10 L

Premium : Rs: 47280

Policy Term : 21 years

However I am not able to calculate realistic approximate returns.

One agent told me On Maturity I will get :

Rs: 10 L + ((45-50)*1000)+ FAB = 23 -25 L

One agent told me On maturity I will get :

Rs: 17L (According to Illustration Benefit)

I am confused, Could you please shade some light on this?

Thank You!!!

Rishikesh

Rishikesh-Well it is good that you planned to by INSURANCE but I am totally against buying the product which combines INSURANCE+INVESTMENT. Whatever the return from this policy according to difference source you got, let us consider that total return from this policy is Rs.23 lakh itself. Then do you know the return from this investment? It is around 7%. So do you think this is a good return for such a long term investment? A simple product like FDs (interest earned is taxable) or PPF (more tax efficient than any other) will work wonders than such dummy product. If I consider the inflation of around 6% then do you know the current value of Rs.23,00,000 which you will get after 21 years from now? It is around Rs.6,76,000. For how many years will you survive with this amount? Also if something happens to you middle then for how many years your financial dependent will survive with Sum Assured you receive from LIC (Rs.10 lakh+Bonus till death)? You need to think seriously and decide. Because it your hard earned money not your agent’s or mine.

Dear Mr Tonagatti,

I have a TATA AIG maha life insurance policy under my wife’s name. And all the installments are over now. As per the projection illustration, policy promises:

1. Annual cash dividend: Which I am getting regularly

2. Coupons

3. Cash surrender value.

kindly advise me What are these “Coupons” and also is it advisable to claim for Cash Surrender value now….

regards

Kishor-It is typical traditional whole life plan+Money Back Plan. Coupons means once your policy premium paying maturity ends then you start to receive 5% of Sum Assured till your death or 100 years of age (whichever is earlier). On death or attaining 100 years of age SA along with final coupon of 5% will be provided. I don’t think it neither value inflation or insurance need. Rest is depend on your decision.

DEAR SIR

I AM DARSHAN

I HAVE A JEEVAN MITRA POLICY

I RECEIVED A CALL FROM SOME INSURANCE DEPARTMENT

IT SAID ME THAT MY BENEFIT OF GA LA WAS CANCELLED AND WAS RETURNED

IF I WANT TO GET THE BENEFIT THEN I HAVE TO CONTACT MY AGENT

MY AGENT SAID THERE IS NO BENEFIT LIKE THAT.

I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE BENEFIT IS GENUINE OR IT WAS JUST A FAKE CALL

Darshan-Your agent is right. There is no such benefit under this plan. So no need to take serious about the call.

Hi Mr Basu,

I’m sorry but I am still a bit confused on the Jeevan Anand 149 policy. I took up the policy in May 2005 (fully paid for 9 years now). The premium is Rs15,595 for a Sum assured (SA) of Rs5lac. The premium payment term is 30 years. Kindly clarify the following:

(1) Apart from Revisionary bonus, are the Final Additional Bonus/ Guaranteed Addition/Loyal Additions applicable for Jeevan Anand?

(2) On my death (within 30 year term), would my family receive only SA (or) SA plus bonus’/additions in Question 1.

(3) On maturity (no death) , would I receive SA plus bonus’/additions in Question 1.

(4) On my death after maturity, would my family receive any amount?

(5) As of today, how much loan can I get on this policy ?

(6) As of today, what would be the approximate surrender value if I discontinue the policy ?

(7) My current vested bonus is Rs1,83,000 (FY:12 – Rs1,59,000) as per the bonus declared for Jeevan Anand (less than 10 years) of Rs37. As per calculations, my current vested bonus should be 1,59,000 + ((5,00,000*37)/1,000) = 1,59,000+18,500 = Rs1,77,500. Could you kindly explain as to why there is a difference in my current vested bonus (183000 -177500).

Apologies for the long list of questions.

Pradeep-1) This plan only offers Bonus+Final Additional Bonus, apart from this no other benefits.

2) SA along with accrued bonus till that period.

3) I already answered to your question.

4) Yes if within 70 years of age and death occurs due to accident then double of sum assured (but maximum amount set as Rs.5 lakh) and for natural death equal to sum assured. But if death occurs after 70 years of age (either normal or accidental) then your nominee will receive sum assured.

5) For loan, you need to visit your nearest LIC branch or service branch. They will guide you in better way.

6) For surrender values, you need to visit your nearest LIC branch or service branch. They will guide you in better way.

7) Term you considered is wrong, you need to consider the policy term, but not how many years you completed.

Thanks for all your answers Sir. Just to clarify my understanding on Question 4; on maturity I will receive SA+Accrued Bonus. Apart from this amount, on my death after maturity, my nominee would receive SA. Is this correct ?

Pradeep-Yes you are right.

Hello ,

I have 11000 UTI ULIP units and its maturing on 31-03-2014 (15 year Plan). Pls suggest whether I should redeem this or I can wait for better NAV.

Thanks

Rajiv

Rajiv-Without knowing a plan name how can I guide you?

Its UTI Unit Linked Insurance Plan. You can refer the below link. I have 15 yrs plan.

http://www.utimf.com/Funds/balance-funds/Pages/uti-unit-linked-insurance-plan.aspx

Rajiv-This fund never beat even the benchmark return. Hence no need to continue and come out of this plan. Detailed review will be available in below link.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/mutual-funds/nav/uti-unit-linked-insurance-plan/MUT018

Dear Mr.Basu Nivesh,

I am planning to take Jeevan Anand policy for the Sum Assured 20,000,00 + 20,000,00 + 10,000,00 = 50,000,00 Rs.

3 (Three) policy. For the term of 18 yrs, Like to know the yearly premium and the final Amount after the maturity.

Note:- 50,000,00 + Bonus + F.A.B = ( Total Amount ). Even I want to know what shall be the commission for the Agent for this. 1st yr __%, 2nd yr __%, 3rd yr __%, 4th yr __%, 5th yr__%, till flat %.

I am bit confused, so I want to know the above details for my clarification.

Vani Anurag Dutta-Let us first discuss, like how you arrived at Rs.50,00,000 insurance is sufficient for you? May I know the reason behind splitting the sum assured? This is typical endowment plan where returns will be around 7% and your agent’s commission will be like 35% in first year, 7.5% in second and third year and 5% for rest of period. I think your agent recommended this plan, advised you to split the plan (to increase his number policies in a year) and offered you commission sharing. Am I right??

jEEVAN ANAND

START DATE: – 31/1/2013

PREMIUM 12000 PER YEAR

POLICY 230000

POLICY TERM 21 YEAR

PLZ TELL ME HOW MUCH MONEY I WILL GATE AFTER 21 YEAR

SORRY SIR START DATE 31/12/2013

Bharat-Return will be around 7%.

i have a jeevan anand 149 with profits policy. Started this on the 28th of Dec 2005 and have been paying a premium of 51775 every year with an assured sum of 8,00,000. My last data of payment is 28-12-2021.

Could you help me understand what this policy is worth now ? (not from a surrender point view)

Eugene-It is a typical traditional plan wherein you are totally under insured (ideal insurance cover should be 10-15 times of your yearly income) and return from this plan hover around 7%. Then let me know in what it suites your need??

hello sir

enter plan name :……..

enter age:………….

enter term:……….

enter Sum Assured:…………..

then how to calculate this formula please tell me about the process

like how to calculate monthly and year and etc …….. calculate amount its how to calculate as soon as possible tell me

Hardik-Each plans are unique and premium varies from age and term. Hence you need to do lot of calculation settings in sheet. I think you are knocking the wrong door friend. Consult any excel expert on this matter.

Hello,

I had a money back policy of Rs. 30000/ in the year of 1996. It will mature on 2016.

I already received 18000. Would you mind to tell me what will be the expected maturity amount !!

Also I had another money back policy of Rs. 50000/ in the year of 1998. It will mature on 2018. I already received 30000. Would you mind to tell me what will be the expected maturity amount !!

Thanks in Advace

Abhishankar

Adhikary-From both the plans you can expect around 6% return.

Hello,

Sorry I didn’t get you. What you mean by 6% !!

And I would like to know approx. maturity amount for both the policy.

Thanks

Abhishankar

Adhikary-It is like if you invest today Rs.100 then after 10 years your maturity will be Rs.179 (yearly compounding). Lesser than typical Bank FDs.

Hello sir,

am planning to take a single premium endowment policy regarding to my daughter. i would like to know your valuable information regarding this

thanking you

varghese

Varghese-Let me know first one answer from you. If something happens to you (death) then who will suffer financial burden? Your kid right? Same way if something happens to you (death) to your kid then will suffer financially? No right? Then why insurance for your kid? Better to cover your life risk by buying proper term plan and rest invest in a plan which you feel can easily beat inflation. Sorry using harsh realities, but when you are planning then you need to consider such situations. So I don’t think you are in right move by buying single premium endowment policy.

Hi

I have purchased an Lic policy from L.I.C.I. table term 14-11(11). It is an endowment policy. sum assured 25000. time 11 years on 28-5-2003. My yearly premium is 2345. What will be my maturity value?,

Sanjib-Period is already over and there is no way to think and calculate so many times just for your satisfaction. Hence visit your nearest LIC branch they will inform you the EXACT amount you will receive at maturity.

Hi Basu,

I have bought a New Bima Gold LIC for 2 lakhs for 16 years. I understand that there will be money back of 15% at the end of 4th, 8th and 12th year. If the date of commencement is 28/12/2010, when exactly will the money be returned. I am little confused over that. Would it be 28/12/2014 ? But then I will have paid 5 premiums. Please explain. Thanks !

Suppose you bought the policy on 28th Dec 2010 then your 4th policy year will complete on 28th Dec 2014. So at the end of this period you will receive your first survival benefit. You are right, you paid 5 installments.

Thank you.

I use to pay the amount online but don’t see any option to add my account to receive the amount.

Is there any way I can update my account online or going in person is the only way …

Raj-I hope my last post about online payment “How to pay LIC premium online without registration?” may be useful for you. Otherwise you need to register you individual policies to pay them by creating your account.

Hi Basu,

Probably I was not very clear in my question … sorry for that ! and yes the link you shared is really informative and helpful.

I wanted to know how to update my account with LIC so that they can transfer the money.

I know they used to send cheques earlier but it is also possible to update account and they do direct transfer to that account.

Is there any way I can update my account with LIC without having to visit their office ?

Thanks.

Raj-Sorry for mis-understanding your doubt. As of now there is no such facility for you to update your banking details online. Hence visit your servicing branch and update the bank details for future money transfer smoothly.

I enrolled in 2 LIC policies and here are the details:

1.Plan: Jeevan Tarag (T.NO:178)

Started in 07/Mar/2007

policy term:72(premium Payment Term:15)

Sum Assured:500000

Premium:34,361(Yearly)

2.Plan:Bima Gold (T.No:174)

Started in 28/Mar/2006

policy term:12(premium Payment Term:12)

Sum Assured:200000

Premium:2915(Quarterly)

Can i stop paying these and surrender the policies or continue these policies. Please advice.

Venkat-Stopping or continuing will depend on are you ready to absorb the return of around 7% from these policies if you continue till the end. So let me know how much you are ready for the kind of return? On what base or with what expectation you bought these policies?

Hi basu,

I enrolled jeevan saral plan with SA – 500000 , yearly paying premium around 25000 rs.

however my maturity policy tenure is 35 years… Already paid 9 yearly premiums. i would like to surrender policy post 10 years..Can you calculate how much return i will get?

Saumil-Returns will be around 5%.

So expected approximate total amount 265000

sir,

i have taken LIC JEEVAN SHREE plan-1 ,table no 162. since 2010. with a premium of 6419 rs quarterly and having SA 500000. whats ur opinion that should i continue with the policy or to stop it. if to stop it then when i.e. what will be the perfect time to redeem it.

Dipankar-May I know the term of the policy?

here i am giving you the whole information regarding my policy

my date of birth is 07.08.1987

age 24 yrs as on date of policy taken

date of commencement : 11.03.2011( sorry for the wrong information as on earlier).

date of maturity : 11.03.2036( maturity term is 25 yrs)

date of last payment : 11.12.2026.( premium paying term is 16 yrs).

sum assured for main plan Rs 500000.

accidental benefit sum assured Rs 500000.

premium for main plan Rs 6237.75

premium for accidental benefit Rs. 181.25

i.e total premium is Rs. 6419/ quarterly

so please suggest me that whether i should to continue or to stop it.

Dipankar-Better to close this plan, as this is typical traditional plan with only difference is, in first five years of plan you will get guaranteed addition. After that based on LIC bonus declaration you will receive the returns. Hence better to stop it once you complete 5 years. I don’t think it will generate more than 7% return in long run.

Sir when you advise someone to close the plan what is ur suggestion?Because closing an LIC plan means only 30% of the premiums paid will be refunded,so 5 years premiums which is already paid if closed all of a sudden then there is a huge loss incurred almost of a lakh.On the next blog you may advise him to invest the same amount in attractive products & for insurance purpose invest in term plans. But its known to everyone that Term Plans are the most dangerous product to buy because their premiums are too low to have a faith on the corporation(especially other than LIC).Also to recieve the death claim,we should not expect our near & dear ones to be harassed by the Insurance Co. which is almost inevitable in case of Term Plans.So closing a plan means what is the next alternative so that a person may recover from such huge loss? Please suggest a meaningful plan & not any cheap term insurance product.Please excuse me for the rude words because I really admire ur financial knowledge.

Regards

PSK

Moraghat Tea Estate,Banarhat

Poorvottar-I know it is painful to have negative return from closing the plan (But I am unable to your logic like how you arrived at only 30% of premiums will be payable in case of surrender), but committing the same mistake for the life long is not worth. Even if you continue with PPF then you earn and may be compensate the loss what you are getting now. Coming to insurance plan, I don’t feel anything wrong in pricing. When you buy any traditional plan then do you know how much you are actually paying for the life risk your insurance company offering (including LIC)? It is very low part of premium. So if you disclose all facts properly then I don’t think any insurance company have guts to reject your claim. LIC premium is costly not because to create faith among policy holder, but due to other issues like adopting old mortality table, their underwriting rules and some other issues. So don’t be so secured only with LIC. There is someone to guard all which is called IRDA.

For policies which dont have any FAB,Bonus etc & only amt payable as LA & running for 20 yrs…do u expect LA to be 250-350?

Poorvottar-LA rates again depend on policy you bought, age at which you bought, term of policy and premium amount. Hence it is not a wise decision to say that all policies will pay you LA of Rs.250-300.

My Policy is New Bima Gold(T-179)

Premium:35776(payable yearly)

Term:20 years

Extended Term:10 yrs

SA:10,50000

Extended Term SA:5,25000

Age when bought:21 yrs

Present Age:23 yrs.

Please calculate the sum of Loyalty Addition as this is the only amount to be recieved from Company’s With-profit business other than the premiums paid(which will be returned to me)

poorvottar-As of now LIC not declared any LA on this plan. Hence unable to guide you. But this being typical traditional plan, we may expect around 7% return.

Dear Basav

Another policy which I would like to discuss is Jeevan Shree (T.No.112)

Policy Term: 15 (Premium Payment Term : 10)

Sum Assured: Rs.5,00,000

I took this policy in December 98 and paid a premium amount of Rs.50,468 for the full term.

The policy has now matured with a maturity value of Rs.11, 87,500

As a layman, I think this is a good return.

But as an expert, what do you think?

Has the policy beaten inflation?

Regards

Dinesh

Dinesh-This was the best golden product, do you know one this about this plan? None of them new about this plan until LIC declares that it is closing. Suddenly there was a huge rush to buy this product as this policy is attached with high guaranteed bonus rate. So no other opinion from my end about this plan as you will get a definite good return 🙂 Sadly none of current LIC product match to this plan.

Dear Basav

I have taken a Jeevan Anand (T No. 149) in 2004.

Policy Term 69 (Pemium Payment Term 16)

I have been regular with my payments for the past 10 years without fail. So 6 more payments to go.

Please advice if it best to keep up with the payment or let the policy lapse.

Regards

Dinesh

Dinesh-If you are about to complete the plan then better to complete the term.

Dear Basav

Can u please calculate and let me know the estimated final returns on this product.

Thanks

Dinesh

Dinesh-You have not provided the SA, anyhow currently bonus for this plan for Rs.44 per Rs.1,000 SA. You can calculate and multiply to your SA. Along with SA, you also entitled for this accumulated bonus.

My LIC Agent has given me the below details about loyalty additions (LA)

”

The loyalty additions will depend on the profit LIC will earn out of the funds collected under the plan. For a traditional plan , LIC will invest the funds in Govt. Securities, Bonds & the returns will commensurate with prevailing bank rates from time to time. The loyalty additions will improve year over year depending on the year of investment & rate of interest prevailing during these period. The loyalty additions mentioned in our spread sheet is the expected return keeping in view of the rates prevailing now. Having said that this value can vary according to the rate of return LIC will earn out of this funds in future from Bonds, Govt. securities etc.

”

My question is does LIC declare the LA for every related policy each year which you follow until your policy matures to see how its doing?

Dinesh-Please ask your agent what LA he considered to arrive at the final value. Yes, each year LIC declares LA and Bonus for respective plans (depend on eligibility).

Dear Basu,

I have LIC Jeevan Anand which have completed 5 years now. The half yearly premium is Rs. 26,368, sum assured is 10 Lacs. The maturity date is 5th Feb’2030. My Questions-

1> If I stop paying anymore premium, but do not withdraw the money now and wait till maturity, how much I can expect ?

2> Will it make sense to continue it because of the fact that it has an Insurance coverage even after maturity ? Or will it be better to stop paying anymore premiums and start afresh Bank RD or Invest in SIPs and take a term insurance plan now ?

3> If I withdraw the money now LIC said I will get 1 Lac, 69 K only, whereas I have already paid 2 Lac, 63 K. I have already closed all other traditional investment cum insurance policies, but continuing with Jeevan Anand as many people said it is better as the insurance will continue for life long ? But as an expert what will you suggest ? If I have to incur loss at this time, but by investing the same money till 5th Feb’2030 in some other investment mode (RD, SIP etc.), if I am likely to get a big difference in profit, I will close Jeevan Anand and chose any other modes even if it is a big loss at present.

Request you early response please.

Appreciate your suggestion whether to continue or discontinue keeping in mind present loss and long term profits.

Regards,

Riju

Raju-1) It will be in paid up condition and you will loose insurance coverage too as the policy considered “LAPSED”. This amount will no longer participate in future LICs benefit. Regarding valuation, contact your LIC branch. They have calculation and based on that they will give you the exact amount.

2) In what way it fulfills your needs? Whether the insurance coverage this plan provides suffice your insurance need? What if you die today then for how many years your dependents will survive after the receive of maturity from policy? Please review your thoughts on this. Also when we consider return, then too it is too bad to get around 7% return by investing so long like 15-20 years.

3) If you are inclined to continue then treat this as any low yielding product and it must be around 10% of your portfolio investment. I know by surrendering now you may receive less. But committing the same mistake for life long is not worth than paying penalty now and start a fresh. Decision is your’s

Dear Basu,

Thank you for your clear response, really appreciate. I think my attraction towards LIC Jeevan Anand is more emotional than practical. But at the same time I do not want to commit the same mistake by choosing another similar product available in the investment market. I was thinking about bank RD with close to 8.5 % return for 10 years, but the bank person is suggesting a better option (as per him)-

“HDFC Life Sanchay -Guaranteed Savings Insurance Plan”

Features are :

Non Participating Traditional Plan with Guaranteed Benefits

Limited premium paying term of 5, 8 or 10 years

Flexibility to choose the policy term of 15 to 25 years

Guaranteed Additions of 8% or 9% of Sum Assured to your maturity benefit, accrued at simple rate for each completed policy year

The total Guaranteed Maturity Benefit will be between 220% to 325% of Sum Assured provided all due premiums have been paid

The flexibility to choose premium payment frequency i.e. monthly/quarterly/half-yearly/annually

EMI available for HDFC Bank Credit Card holders.

Now the question is is this not very similar to LIC Jeevan Anand – another insurance + investment plan

Rather than this why not no take term insurance and invest in RD + SIPs per month ?

Your comments please.

Regards,

Riju

Raju-HDFC guys are typical insurance agents and they are more dangerous than these insurance agents. How they are luring is the example that for a one investment they are promoting one more product called EMI 🙂 Simply superb selling trick. My suggestion will be of what you said in last line of comment “Rather than this why not no take term insurance and invest in RD + SIPs per month ?”. Never run behind product or agents or the “New Avaatar” of so called relationship managers of your bank. Instead first understand your requirement then finally go for product. Never match your goal to product you are buying, instead product must match your goals.

Thanks a lot !!!

Sir. I am having LIC Endowment policy ( Table 88) Quaterly Premium Rs 1175/- Term – 25 years. Matured during March’14

Will you please tell me the total amout with bonus and other benefits

Karupu-Return will be around 7% but if you need exact amount then you can contact any of the nearest branch they will inform you the exact amount.

Sir one thing I’ve noticed is that for most of the queries you’re replying that for traditional money back plans return will be somewhere close to 6-7% as per CGAR calculator.

Now my Policy details:

Plan:New Bima Gold(T. 179)

Comm Date:25/08/11

Policy Term :20 yrs

SA:10,50,000

Premium:35,776(yearly)

Now if I dont want to go into the complications of how much will be the accrued bonus & all..& simply calculate 6.24% as per ur theory can I expect 2,400,000 as money back?

PS:Within the time period LIC will return me 4,20,000 in various installments so that I can pay the premiums with those installments. So Final amt can be close to 20L?

Prabir-New Bima Gold is money back. Hence if we consider the cash flow it generate by paying survival benefits and the last payment (which includes bonus and remaining survival benefit) then definitely it will be less than 7%. So in that case you need to consider the cash flows you received during your survival. Hence plainly calculating that at end you will receive 7% return without considering the money received during survival is wrong. If my answer is satisfied you then OK, otherwise I will discuss further.

Sir as already I told you that during the policy tenure at the 4th,8th,12th & 16th year,LIC will repay Rs 105k each totalling upto 420k..so if I deduct this amt from the SA(1050k),then it adds upto 630k.This is the final maturity amt I’m supposed to get.Now considering 41 bonus per 1000 SA,how much it can add upto? Is this policy worth to be continued?Actually the policy was started by my parents through an agent & they’ve already paid the total premiums for the 1st 4 yrs..Now it is from 2015 that I’ve to start giving the premiums…Also when will I recieve the first cheque of 105k?Is it 2015 or 2016?

Prabir-Based on your data (Policy Term 20 yrs and SA Rs.10,50,000), You are eligible to receive Rs.1,05,000 on completion of 4th year, 8th year, 12th year and on 16th year. On maturity you will not entitled to receive the left out SA part i.e Rs.6,30,000, instead it clearly mentioned in this plan that on maturity you will receive the total premiums paid during the policy period, less survival benefit already paid+LA. So in your case, you paid total premium of Rs.7,15,520 (Rs.35,776*20 yrs). So at maturity you will receive Rs.2,95,520 (Rs.7,15,520-Rs.4,20,000)+LA.

Now coming back to your presumption of Rs.41 bonus (which is not payable in this plan) is not required for consideration. Because unlike bonus which will be declared on yearly base and will be included to your policy yearly, LA is one time payment which is on SA. Hence your calculation not holds good. Also as of now LIC not declared any LA for this plan. But by considering the typical traditional plan LAs, we may presume that return from this policy also around 6% to 7%.

It is now your call to decide, whether to continue or stop. In my view, investing for such long period and getting around 7% return seems to be totally a negative investment idea.

so other than Loyalty Addition there is nothing much which I’ll get out of this policy !! not even the SA neither any bonus..!! but I can clearly remember the agent had told something around Rs 12-16 lac in maturity…also 6-7% means on which basis are u calculating? is this as per the CGAR calculator? Then based on CGAR if I suppose 6.24% returns also,it stands close to 24L,but ur last reply shows only 2,95000+LA? So which one should I consider…Is there any official LIC helpline who can clearly sort out my prob? Their website doesnt have any such helpline 🙁

Prabir-This is the reality of this plan. You can check it out with LIC helpline or read fully the bond document which LIC sent you. All details about this particular plan will be available on Bond document itself. Regarding my assumptions on return generation from this plan, when you invest somewhere and your middlemen himself eating around 35% in first year, 7.5% in next second and third year and after that 5% per year till the end of policy period, then do you still feel that this product will generate at least 7% return, being a traditional investment style of LIC?? Here I am disclosing only agents commission but it also includes some other expenses which no endowment or traditional plan will disclose fully like current ULIPs. So in my view, traditional plans are most dangerous than the old ULIP plans when it comes to expenses. Think and decide.

Would you suggest me to leave this plan after receiving the first payout & invest in Postal Life Insurance? in PLI,at least 10 lac is guaranteed for 10 lac SA(premium amt only 25k for 20 yrs).Though Bima Gold is having extended life coverage of 10 yrs.

Prabir-Choice is your’s and I am not expert on PLI. By having separate term plan from now to till that extended term will suffice to come out of this mentality that because of this extended cover you need to pay hefty penalty of getting low return.

Hi Sir,

As I am paying Rs.50k p.a to my personal ppf account and continuously running a RD account, is it advisable to go for any LIC policy. Because I only want to invest for savings purpose and I am confused because I am not sure weather these policies give more returns(>8.5%), than I get on ppf or rd account?

Roger-Your PPF and RD will fetch you more than LIC traditional plans. Hence I don’t think it is necessary to go with any of such plans. Instead I suggest you have pure insurance to cover your life risk. Then based on your financial goals start investing.

I want to invest Rs 1000 – Rs 2000 every month, please advise where should I invest so that I can get the maximum return after 15 – 20 years . I am 32 years old now.

Gobind-If you are looking for good returns over long term then better to start with Equity oriented Mutual Funds.

Dear Sir,

I have a New Jeevan Dhara / New Jeevan Suraksha Plan (with Profit) : The details are:-

Table / Deferment period : 147/29

Notinal cash option : 395000

Premium: 10000

Date of vesting annuity : 2034

Could U please help me in arriving the Pension Amount post the term after 29years in case I dont avail Cash Option.

Thanks & Regards

Lakshmi-May I know the age when you took this plan and term of the policy (I think it is 29 years but still need confirmation).

Hello,

My LIC Plan = 165, Term = 20, D.O.C. = 02/06/2012, Premium = Rs 3,063.00 (QLY), Sum Assured = Rs 2,50,000.00

Please advise the approx amount that I’ll be getting after my policy matures.

My age is 33 years

Surendra-There are plenty of plans in LIC so which plan you invested? Also if it is traditional plan then return will be around 7% to 8% maximum.

Sir,

My LIC Plan is Jeevan Saral (T. No. 165)……just wanted to know the approximate amount that I might get at the end.

Surendra-Please read below comments then you will come to know the return expectation from this plan 🙂

Dear Basu ,

I have taken

Jeevan anand plan -15 years/3886 Half yearly . –> 1 lac sum assure.

Jeevan Surabhi – 21 years / 10188 -Yearly –> 2 lac sum assure.

Money back – 15 years /20184 -Yearly –> 2 lac sum assure.

After reading your article on this subject , Now i am releasing i am paying more , What i am getting after maturity.

Kindly advise me. What I have to do now?

Siddalingappa-The solution in front of you now is, either to continue or close the plans and start a fresh with better understanding of each product you are investing. Let me know which you want to proceed.

Sir I have 2 plans –

1. Jeevan Samridhi T-156; Policy Term – 20 yrs, Premium – 10,447 (Commencement – 2005) SA – 1,25,000

2. Bima Gold T-174; Policy Term – 16 years, Premium – 14,220 (Commencement – 2006); SA – 3,00,000

Could you please advise when the above policies will mature and their maturity value, the ROI. Also if there are any interim benefits (like bonuses etc.) and any suggestions / observations that you’d like to share –

Thanks in advance –

Roshan-Both are typical money back traditional plans. You can expect around 6% return from both the plans (may be lesser in case of Jeevan Samridhi, due to higher premium payment). Maturity will be at the end of policy term.

Thanks. Any interim benefits that I should be expecting? Also what is the expected maturity value?

Roshan-These two being money back plans, you will get survival benefits as mentioned in policy bonds. As I said earlier returns will be very less when you compare to investment and return, it is around 6%.

Sir I have a lic plan (the endowment assurance policy t.no.14)

commencement date = 28/12/2000 age 13 (-)

sum assured = 150000

Policy term = 16 yr

premium = 9,172

What will be the maturity amount and how to calculate FAB

Pankaj-Your return from this plan will be around 7%. FAB is a one time payment which usually they declare per Rs.1,000 SA. So you just need to multiply that amount with your sum assured and divide it by Rs.1,000.

ok so maturuty amount will be 3.10 lk approx?

Pankaj-It will be around Rs.2,55,000 (I considered term as 16 years, yearly payment Rs.9,172 and return on investment 7%).

How you calculate 7% return?

Pankaj-Either you can use any online tools to calculate return (CAGR) on your investments or you can use excel sheet to do so by going to Formulas->Inset Function->Selection a Function FV. Then input the data to arrive at future values.

Hi,

By reading your valuable suggestions, I thought this is the right place to ask my question.

I have a Birla sun life gold plus insurance policy. they have mentioned Sum assured amount 3,75,000/- for premium of 75000/- per year for 3 years and I have to wait till 8 yrs completed. so my question is – is this sum assured amount paid only on death case or also on maturity of the plan?

Jyothsna-Sum Assured means the risk they are liable to pay in case of your policy holder death. Maturity amount will be different for different policies like in some cases it will be SA+Bonus, SA+LA, MSA+LA or only Sum Assured.

okay, thank you for the clarification.

Sir,

JEEVAN ANAND ( PLAN NO 149)

POLICY START DATE-28/02/2005

PREMIUM-11378 (Yearly)

SUM ASSURED=100000

Term -11 Years

PLS CALCULATE MY MATURITY AMOUNT and when i got maturity amount

Sanjay-Maturity amount will be around 5% to 6% and you will receive this amount after 11 years. But in this plan life risk of equal to Sum Assured will continue till life long.

Sir,

I have taken the following policy,

Jeevan Shree-112

POLICY START DATE-13/02/2002

PREMIUM-15269 (HALF YEARLY)

SUM ASSURED=500000

Policy paying term-16years

Maturity-25years

PLS CALCULATE MY POLICY DETAIL

Sunil-It is nothing but typical traditional insurance plan. So your return will be around 7%.

HI Basu,

I’m a silent reader of your blog and just trying to learn before investing :).

I read you comment for the same plan above, where you ave mentioned that JEEVAN SHREE was a good plan presented by LIC. Also, from the example what Mr Dinesh C has said above that by paying Rs. 50,468 for the full term, he received Rs.11, 87,500 on maturity, which seems a very good amount. then how there will be only 6-7% in this. I understand that there could be a difference due to single full payment and part payment but don’t you think that this difference is too high 🙂

Please help me in understanding the same.

Regards

Deepak Nigam

Deepak-The plan which I said best was the old Jeevan Shree plan which have guaranteed addition of Rs.75 per year per Rs.1,000 SA, which you will not get from any existing plans. After closure of this plan (I think in the year of 2000) they launched New Jeevan Shree where you will get guaranteed addition of Rs.65 per Rs.1,000 SA per year for the first five years. Afterward this policy bonus will depend on the LIC declaration. Hence I said old Jeevan Shree is good and you can continue (as policy is about to close and you will not get such return from existing plans). Again I said New Jeevan Shree as bad because I felt there is nothing special to continue in this plan.

I hope you understood the difference now 🙂

Dear Basav

New Jeevan Shree with GA and LA

SA 500,000

Commenced 20-03-2003

Plan 151/15/10

Premium fully paid up

Is it better to foreclose now or wait till maturity date 20-03-2018 to take advantage of additional GA & LA?

What about tax on foreclosure pls?

Dharmesh-As the premiums are already paid and it will mature on 2018, I don’t think it will makes you such a big difference by surrendering now.

thank you basav! i admire the way you have lit million candles by sharing your knowledge. keep it going and glowing!

Dharmesh-Thanks for your appreciation. At the same time request you to spread this awareness among your known.

Dear Sir,

I have a New Jeevan Dhara / New Jeevan Suraksha Plan (with Profit) : The details are:-

Table / Deferment period : 147/29

Notinal cash option : 395000

Premium: 10000

Date of vesting annuity : 2034

Could U please help me in arriving the Pension Amount post the term after 29years in case I dont avail Cash Option.

Thanks & Regards

Lakshmi-Before proceeding further, let me ask you a question, how and on what base you started investing in these plans? Can you elaborate more please?

Sir,

JIVANA ANKUR ( PLAN NO 807)

POLICY START DATE-23/11/2013

PREMIUM-2295 (Monthly)

SUM ASSURED=900000

Term -25 Years

PLS CALCULATE MY MATURITY AMOUNT

Arti-Return for 25 years will be around 7%.

Plz tell me how much amount we received after 25 years

Arti-This is the newly launched plan (23-01-2012) so unable to give you the correct maturity values as bonus were not yet declared. But this being typical traditional plan, we may expect around 7% return.

i took jeevan saral (Table No. 165) plan. i took this plan for ten years. can you please tell me how much money i will get after ten years.

i paid premium half yearly and my premium is 6065Rs.

My age is 27 years old. currently i paid only two premium.

Kamal-If you go by previous comments then you can easily predict your investment returns. It will be around 5%.

Hello Mr Basu,

I have following Jeevan Sree Policy , could you please let me know how much approx maturity amount I’ll get on maturity.

Policy Name: Jeevan Shree without Profit (with Accident Benefit)

Sum Assured: Rs 500000

Yearly prm: Rs 24666

Table : 112-25-16

Start Date: 01-09-2001

Maturity Date : 01-09-2026

Thanks

Rajiv

Rajiv-I hope this plan is New Jeevan Shree, where in LIC providing you guaranteed addition only for first 5 years. Afterward bonus will be based on LIC performance. So I don’t think this is a unique plan which can generate you more than around 7% return. This is a typical traditional plan.

I Think its old plan as new plan came in 2002 and I invested in 2001, but I dont understand anything from the certificate other than table no 112-25-16 and Policy Name: Jeevan Shree without Profit (with Accident Benefit) . Can you pls let me know rough maturity amount.

Thanks

Rajiv-Yes, you are right. This is the old Jeevan Shree where you are entitled for Rs.75 GA per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured per year. So better to continue, as you will not get such guaranteed amount for such long period for any of the current plans.

Sir I have taken Jeevan Aastha for Sum assured Rs 25000 for five years in Jan 2009.Now it is under process of Maturity.What will be total maturity Value

Amit-What is the maturity sum assured they mentioned on policy bond? In this policy maturity sum assured is 1/6th of Sum Assured. Hence please let me know the MSA value.

Sir

Maturity Sum Assured is 25000 while life cover is 150000

Amit-If your MSA is Rs.25,000 then as per declaration of LIC during the launch of this policy, you are entitled for Guaranteed Addition of Rs.90 per Rs.1,000 MSA. Hence you will be eligible to receive Rs.25,000+Rs.2,250=Rs.27,250.

Dear Sir,

i have taken jeevan saral plan as on 30 december2013

Annual installment Rs.12000/-

MY AGE IS 31 YEARS TERM 15 YEARS

kindly advice me regarding Maturity Amount bonus etc

Dear Sir,

i have taken jeevan saral plan as on 30 december2013

Annual installment Rs.12000/-

kindly advice me regarding Maturity Amount bonus etc

Mukesh-May I know the age when you took this plan and the term of policy?

MY AGE IS 31 YEARS TERM15 YEARS

Mukesh-In that case, MSA (which is fixed) will be Rs.1,92,230+LA Rs.96,115 (LA @ Rs.500 per Rs.1,000 MSA for 15 years term plan)=Rs.2,88,345.

Sir,

JIVAN ANAND-149

POLICY START DATE-28/01/2007

PREMIUM-3817 (HALF YEARLY)

SUM ASSURED=100000

MATURITY DATE-28/07/2021

PLS CALCULATE MY POLICY DETAIL

Rishikesh-You will get Rs.1,00,000+Rs.56,000 Bonus (Bonus @ Rs.40 per Rs.1,000).

Sir ,

maine jivan anand policy 2007 me liya hai 15 saal term hai 3817 premium half yearly hai maturity 2021 hai total amount kitna milega pls sir

Dear Basavaraj,

I have taken 4 LIC polices. I am 34 years old ( DOB : 05/09/1979 ) Details are as under

1) Plan: Jeevan Shree -1 ( Table No: 162 )

DOC: 27/02/2009

Sum Assured – 5,00,000

Policy Term: 15

PPT: 8

Premium: 56,588 (yearly)

Vested Bonus 82,000 ( as of date )

2) Plan: 48 ( The Endowment Assurance Policy- Limited Payment )

DOC: 28/09/2011

Sum Assured: 10,00,000

Policy Term: 15

PPT: 10

Premium: 88,725 ( yearly )

Vested Bonus: 40,000 (as of date)

3) Plan: Jeevan Anand ( Table No: 149 )

DOC: 09/05/2008

Sum Assured: 2,00,000

Policy Term: 74

PPT: 17

Premium: 13,337 ( yearly )

Vested Bonus: 33,600 ( as of date )

4) Plan: Jeevan Anand ( Table No: 149)

DOC: 25/04/2010

Sum Assured: 5,00,000

Policy Term: 72

PPT: 21

Premium: 25,634 ( yearly )

Vested Bonus: 47,000

Sir, What is your opinion of the above 4 policies ? Can you please tell me what will be the maturity amount for all these policies ? Of all these policies, which are eligible for GA ,LA , FAB in addition to sum assured & bonus ? Are these these policies good and profitable enough to continue with ? If not so, which policies should I give up / discontinue ?

Expecting your reply

Thanking you in advance

Sreejesh

Sreejesh-None of the plans will fetch you more than 8% returns. You need to your homework going by the above procedure I mentioned to know how much you can get at the end. Only Jeevan Shree-1 will be eligible for GA for first five years. Regarding FAB, I don’t think it is a big game changer in your return. My suggestion will be to go through the policy bond which is with you and all details about the same is mentioned over there. If I say none of the policies will be good then will you discontinue? On what bases you bought these policies? Will they serve any purpose to your financial life? Think and answer to these questions, then we discuss further.

Hi..I have taken LIC Jeevan Saral (T. No. 165) with premium 3032 hly for a term of 35 years. What will be the maturity amount after 35 years?

Please reply.

Thanks in advance.

Mukesh-Please go through above comments. Return from this policy will be around 7%.

Dear Basavaraj,

Thanks for your quick response.

CTC for Monthly only. My Retirement Age is 60 and it will comes by May 2019.

One LIC Policy Plan 88/20 for Rs.25000/ – Matured and got money of 45000/- Plus savings available 80000/- with me

Another LIC Policy in my name with Plan 88/20 for Rs.75000/- Commence from 1997.

I need to get a nominal amount of Pension for my survival and need a policy for my son in future.

Please do the needful.

Thanks & Regards

Kannan

Kannan-Goal seems too short, left out time is just 6 years from now (60 Yrs-54 Yrs=6 Yrs). So I don’t know how you can plan. But apart from these investments do your employer have any option of pension? Forget about your son’s future. You are in the wrong situation of retirement planning. Please reply to my comment.

Dear Sir / Madam,

Reg: Good Policy for our Future & Pension

I completed 54 Years(May 1959) and a family of four as below.

1. Mother – Aged – 78 Years

2. Self – Aged – 54 Years

3. Wife – Aged – 53 Years

4. Son – Aged – 16 Years

I need to take two good policies for me

One is for my Pension and another is for my family.

Request you to suggest me Good Policy to suit for my Salary.

Now my CTC around 20000/-

Thanks & Regards

Kannan

Kannan-I am unable to recommend without knowing your retirement age, current investment and your future goals. Also this CTC is monthly?

Dear Basavaraj,

Thanks for your quick response. My Retirement age will be at 60 in 2019. CTC is for monthly.

Last Month one of LIC Policy in Plan 88/15 Matured and got an amount of Rs. 44000.00 and one policy in 88/20 commence from 1997 for Rs.75000/- in force.

My savings at present will be around 90000/- and wants to invest the same.

I need a regular income after my retirement and also to give a policy to my son for his future. Kindly do the needful.

Thanks & Regards

Kannan G

Hi Basu –

Thanks for the detailed write up on the LIC return calculation. My additional query is, let us i have taken a policy of 10.0 lacs with BONUS option with a period of 25 years. Will i be getting my return after 25 years as per the below calculation?

SUM ASSURED + BONUS VESTED + LOyalty BONUS

Ex: If I have paid 9 lacs towards premium and 9.0 lacs got accumulated in BONUS along with 3 lacs in LB, will i be getting 21.0 lacs after 25 years?

currently i have 10.0 lacs insurance (endowment policy) and paid close to 4.0 lacs premium since 2003 and have got 4.5 lacs in BONUS component.

Ravikumar-If you plan to surrender the policy before the term of the plan then it is treated as surrender and calculation will be done based on the surrender value calculation formula. If you end till maturity then yes, you will be entitled to SA (not the premium you paid)+Bonus+ LA or FAB (if eligible for that plan).

i want to surrender my lic policy . i want to knoe my surrnder amount

1ST POLICY TABLE 88 TERMS 25 YEARS DOC-22/09/2005 , PREMIUM AMT-578/- QTRLY

2ND POLICY TABLE 91 TERMS 25 YEARS DOC-10/01/2006, PREMIUM AMT-312/- QTRLY

PAYMENT UPTO DATE.

PLEASE HELP ME

PRAKASH KUMAR SHAW

Prakash-I am unable to quote the amount. So better to contact your nearest LIC branch.

Hi Mr. Basavaraj,

I need your valuable guidance on two my LIC policies which I wish to surrender :

A. Endowment Policy (Table No. 14), SA-6 Lacs, Maturity period is 30 yrs. DOP – 10/2006. I have paid total premium of Rs. 143100/- (close to 7 yrs) and vested bonus is shown as 172800.

B. Bima Gold Policy (Money Back), SA-10 Lacs, Maturity period is 20 yrs. DOP – 10/2006. I have paid total premium of Rs. 264750/- (close to 7 yrs) and i have withdrawn Rs. 1 lac after the expiry of the 4th yr.

Kindly advise what would the surrender value of the above policies. Further, whether it will be more beneficial just to stop paying any more premiums and wait until maturity and in such case, then what will be the maturity amounts.

Regards

Gyan

G Iyer-For exact surrender values, I suggest you to visit any nearest LIC branch. They will guide you in a better way. The second option you are asking is called paid up value. Again it depends on the calculation. The decision to have paid up and surrender will be based on which one is favorable for you. So I am unable to advise you.

@Sandip… you cannot have a SA of 5L for a premium of just Rs. 1.39L over 10 years in this policy. Currently, for 20 years, Jeevan Anand has a SA of 5L for a premium of Rs. 5L over 20 years.

@Basavaraj … your calculations for the return and the future payment have gone haywire. 13.16L return on 1.39L investment over 10 years is a whopping 40% p.a. return compounded. Also, your bonus calculation itself is wrong. @4.8% of 5L = 24k per year = 2.4L and not 8.16, as you assumed.

Ajinkya-I suggest you to read once again about the data provided Mr.Sandip. Term of the plan is 34 years, SA Rs.5,00,000 and yearly premium of Rs.13,900. I calculated the return what he will receive at the end of policy term i.e 34 years. Now coming back to bonus calculation, Rs.24,000 per year is correct and you need to multiply this with the term of the policy which is coming at Rs.8,16,000. Now with a yearly premium of Rs.13,900 for term of 34 years if return is Rs.13,16,000 then let me know how much compounding return this product will generate? Hope I cleared what I did 🙂

Hi Basu,

I have a Endowment assurance plan from LIC with PPT as 16 yrs and SA of 8lac. Currently i’m paying a premium of 50k yearly and after paying since 3years i’m seeing the vested bonus accumulated in my policy is around 33k. Recently I saw that LIC is withdrawing this policy from DEc,2013. I sit due to the reason this policy yields less bonus. i’m worried if the returns will be worthy to keep on paying premiums for 13 more years. Please suggest if i should continue with this or get a new policy which will yield more benefits.

In the case of me sticking with the Endowment plan can you please help me with an approximate bonus that I might get at the end of 16years. When in enrolled in 2011 the agent informed the total amount will be around 12lac including SA. Please let me know if the amount given by him is right or it might reduce.

Thanks!!

Hi,

I am 38 and I have a 13 year old daughter.

I have 5 policies , 4 from LIC and 1 from birla sunlife. I feel that these policies are not enough to hedge

against infaltion and will not be able to fulfil my needs for my child education and other things.

I Need your advise if I should :

1) Surrender these policies ?

2) Take term plan (which one is most reliable)?

Following are the policy details:

1)JEEWAN ANURAG 168( WITH PROFITS )

POLICY START DATE:14/02/2005

REMIUM:13148

SUM ASSURED:200000

MATURITY DATE:14/02/2022

2 ) JEEWAN AASTHA (195)

POLICY START DATE:07/01/2009

PREMIUM: 48975 -ONE TIME

SUM ASSURED: 50000 ( Rs 300000 in case of death)

MATURITY DATE :07/01/2019

3)MONEY BACK POLICY 75

POLICY START DATE :28/07/1997

PREMIUM : RS 3173 HALF YEARLY

SUM ASSURED:100000

MATURITY DATE :28/07/2017

4) JEEWAN CHAYA 103( with profits+ acc benefits)

POLICY START DATE :28/04/2003

PREMIUM :RS 5366 YEARLY

SUM ASSURED : RS 100000

DATE OF MATURITY :28/04/2023

5) BIRLA SUN LIFE INSURANCE

POLICY START DATE :28/12/2009

PREMIUM : RS 25000 YEARLY

SUM ASSURED : THE FUND VALUE ON MATURITY ( RS 750000 IN THE EVENT OF DEATH)

DATE OF MATURITY : 01/12/2018

I AM TOTALLY CONFUSED & WANT TO SURRENDER & TAKE GOOD POLICIES

Regards

Rashmi

Rashmi-None of the above said policies will give you more than 7% return. So they are totally redundant when you consider the education and marriage inflation of your kid. The best option is to surrender them. But at the same time never ever forget to buy pure term plan immediately. Ideal coverage should be 15 times of your yearly income (I am saying ideal, but it depends on individual financial life). As you mentioned your daughter is currently 13 years and for higher education you have only 5 years left. So you need to accumulate good enough within these 5 years. Goals is short hence equity investment is not a wise decision. Instead more saving to secured products will be the answer to achieve this goal. Regarding opting term plan, you can choose anyone from ICICI, HDFC,SBI or LIC’s offline plan (costliest among). But buying online will be cheaper for you.

hi ,

Highly appreciate your prompt guidance.

Please suggest should I surrender BIRLA SUNLIFE as well, even though the return is around 84,000 against 1,00,000 which has gone towards the policy

Also any child plans you have on top of your mind for my 13 yr old kid for education

Regards

Rashmi

Rashmi-Please provide me the exact name of Birla Sunlife Insurance product then only I can guide you. As I mentioned in the above comment, the time left for your kid’s higher education is too short. Hence stay away from these plans and once you receive the surrender amount then start a fresh investment in any non risky product with a time frame of 5 years.

Hi dear ,

Following are the details of birla Sunlife policy:

Birla sublife insurance classis life premier plan( CL PR 2006 BASE WHOLE LIFE PAY10)

Policy date : 28th dec 2009

Investment fund option : maximiser

Annual Ploicy premium : Rs 25000

Sum assured : 7,50,000

It is a unit linked life insurance policy

Maturity benefit : Fund value

I visisted their off yesterday ,as per them i will get around 86000 after dedcutions.

Please suggest what shall be a non-riskey product which I should take?

Do u mean that i should invest in PPF( i have invested in PPF as well) / FD/ ?

Regards

Rashmi

Rashmi-This is the whole life plan but not a child plan. I don’t know how your agent sold you. Coming to plan features, expenses looks high and it cost you when you receive returns. Premium allocation charges are 7.5% in the first year, 6.5% in the second year and from third year onward 5%. So in my view let policy complete 5 years then withdraw the amount. Because there are no discontinuities charges from 5th year onward.

Dear Mr. Basu,

I want to Purchase Jivan Saral Policy monthly Preium Rs.2000/- My age is 44 year Old & Policy term is 25 Year, how much amount I will get at the time of Maturity

Kailash-I don’t think you will get return more than 7%. Do you still need specific?

JEEVAN ANAND – Instead of investing a lumpsum of 4lac for 18 yrs I am planning on investing 4 x 1lac for 16,17,18,19 yrs ..Is it advisable and any way beneficial??

Hello,

Thanks for explaining the Insurance terms in simple manner.

I need your advice on taking a child plans.My Son is two year old and I want to make his future secure.Somebody advised me to go for KOMAL JEEVAN and others ask to opt Child career plan.I would like to have your comment on this.BTW in LIC sites there is column “Min Maturity Rs” ?.Is this a Guaranteed amount I will get on completion of maturity date.

Waiting for your advise.

Jayakrishnan-None of the plan mentioned by you can actually fulfill your kid’s education or marriage expenses. Reason for my such wild claim is, return from such policies are around 7% and they never beat the education cost of inflation. Minimum maturity is the minimum amount you will get from this plan. Will you share the link of the same to look into it once again.

Hi Basu,Thanks a lot for the reply. Even I thought so regarding the plans. Below is the site where I got the details

http://licpolizy.com/ChildCareerPlan.aspx?Param=184

Can you advice a better investment plan where my requirement matches?

Jayakrishnan-I am unable to find the word “Min Maturity Rs” from the provided link. I think you are pointing towards the break up the values of maturity amount. It is nothing great, they are dividing the SA into different parts and paying on a different interval. So I don’t think this is a major feature to run behind this plan.

Hi Basavaraj Ji,

First thanks for your valuable guidance on such complex subject — insurance & investment.

I have a LIC policy ‘Jeevan Anand’, purchased on 2004 at the age of 24 for SA of Rs. 5,00,000 with term of 34. Till date I have paid all premiums (Yearly premium of Rs. 13,900). LIC portal shows my vested bonus is Rs. 2,11,700.

On reading sentiments against ‘Jeevan Anand’ for its low yielding product as investment as well as insufficient insurance value from this as well as from other platforms, I find myself in confusion. You are heartily requested to put some light on my following queries:

1) Considering total paid premium of Rs. 1,39,000 & vested current bonus of Rs. 2,11,700, how much returns(in %) this policy made as on date? & if this amount of bonus add consistently, what will be the returns (in %) after maturity?

2) I recently bought AVIVA term insurance for Rs.1 Crore. I am thinking to buy health insurance for family also. Till date, I have not bought any investment policies other than CPF. Considering this, should I surrender this policy & invest in other good investment products or to make it paid up. In both cases what is my loss.

Please suggest & help.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Sandip.

Sandip-Below are my answers.

1) Misconception about this realized bonus is that, if you surrender this policy today then you will not get the full value of accrued bonus+SA or paid premium. Also it is not compounded. Yearly they just keep it aside in your account and will pay you at maturity. Hence calculating how much your return from this policy will not hold good. So we can’t assume that today LIC will give you Rs.1,39,000+Rs.2,11,700 or we can’t assume that it will give you Rs.5,00,000 (SA)+Rs.2,11,700. But considering the bonus trend of Rs.48 for more than 20 years plan we can definitely presume the future payment after maturity of 34 years. Which stands to be Rs.5,00,000+Rs.8,16,000 (Bonus @ Rs.48 per Rs.1,000 SA per year)=Rs.13,16,000. Return on investment will be 5.53%.

2) Aviva term insurance is a good choice. But which policy you want to surrender? Jeevan Anand or Aviva Term Insurance? If Jeevan Anand then my suggestion will be YES. For Aviva no surrender value as it is a pure term plan. So continue. Regarding loss calculation, first you ask for surrender value by visiting your nearest LIC branch. Then you are in a better position whether you are in loss or profit.

Guys, please recheck your numbers!

As on date, Jeevan Anand gives 9L Sum assured for 10L invested over 20 years (i.e. 50k per year for 20 years). You are saying that you have been promised 5L Sum Assured for just 1.39L over 10 years (13.9k per year for 10 years).

If your total is 13.16L for a total investment of 1.39L over 10 years, then you’ve already made a killing… your return is not 5.53%. Instead its a whopping 40% compounded per annum.

Ajinkya-Here Sandip is just saying that till date he paid Rs.1,39,000. Also he is asking me to maturity amount after 34 years but not at 10 years now 🙂

Hi BasavaRaj,

I am 27 years old with 6.8 LPA salary. I am saving 55,000 yearly in the form of EPF. I don’t have any savings apart from this. I have health insurance offered from my employer. I wish to take an insurance policy for tax saving purpose. I can invest around 30,000 yearly purely for tax saving purpose.

Can you share the best policies? Apart from insurance, how I can invest money for better earnings targeted for 15-20 years?

Kishore-So your main purpose of buying insurance policy is only for tax saving right? Then a big NO. Please do understand you have left the option of Rs.45,000 for Sec 80C. You can easily achieve it by proper planning. The only insurance I can recommend is pure term insurance of around Rs.1 Cr (recommending by your earning figures), which I think will not cost you more than Rs.10,000 per year. Rest diversify your investment based on your financial goals like PPF (not EPF), Bank FDs or equity mutual funds.

Health Insurance-Currently good that your employer is providing you. But what if in a future employer cancel this facility or new employer not providing this facility? Have your own health insurance for you and your family. Never depend on employer health insurance.

Create An Emergency Fund of at least 6 months of your expenses into some liquid fund. Then start thinking about investing.

Thanks for your prompt reply. So how can I fill the 45,000 gap in 80C without any life insurance policy?

One of my friend suggested me to choose Jeevan Anand policy(149) with 5,00,000 SA and 21 years policy period. Can I have your thoughts on this?

Regarding term policy, I have seen around 12,000 as the premium for 50 lakhs from LIC.

Can you suggest me the right term policy vendor with good claim settlement history?

Kishore-You can buy a term plan online. LIC has that plan but the problem is costly because of the agent’s commission and some other issues. Hence my suggestion will be to buy it online either with HDFC, ICICI, SBI or of your choice. Start PPF (maximum yearly contribution is Rs.1,00,000). But don’t over invest here also. You may also opt for ELSS for your long term goals as well as tax saving avenue.

By doing this, your insurance need will get fulfilled and you will have diversified investments for your long term goals. Again I am cautioning you that you must include both taxes as well as your financial goals into each investment.

Thank you Basavaraj for your valuable suggestion. Take a bow for your care taking nature of investors. 🙂

Kishore-Pleasure and best of luck 🙂

Hi Basavaraj, I just read your column “All about Public Provident Fund”. I have one question about PPF.

If I do a NEFT transaction every month, how this will come under tax rebate?

Do I need to provide the statement or I can claim it on my own?

Kishore-You need to submit the PPF account statement but not your savings account statement. In a PPF account statement it will get reflected.

Dear Basavaraj,

Thanks for the information. So what i do should i continue this policy or discontinue after 5 or 10 years. Plz suggest me.

Anil-Better to surrender after three years.

So sir where i invest our money.Could i invest in PPF OR FD.

Dear sir,

I want to know my another policy.Sir, My age is 30 years. I have invested Rs.15608/- per year(3902 Quartely) in the Jeevan Ankur Policy for a term of 21 years( For our kids) on a sum assured of Rs.4,00,000/- at this age. I paid only first premium in this policy. Could you please say me the approximate amount i will get on maturity also suggest me is it best policy for return or not.

Anil-You can invest some % of your portfolio into such fixed products like PPF or RD. But do remember that equity is the only asset class which have power to beat inflation in long run. So my suggestion will be to start investing monthly in a well diversified large cap mutual fund. With combination of PPF (tax efficient like LIC plans) or RD (interest earned is taxable)+Mutual Funds in equity will actually earn you more than these LIC plans. But the important point before cancelling these LIC plans is to have a term insurance for SA equal to 15 times of your yearly income.

Apply the same comment for your another policy too 🙂

I HAVE TAKEN A JEEVAN SARAL POLICY STARTED AT 15-12-2012 AND MATURITY DATE IS 15-12-2028 WITH QUARTELY PREMIUM OF RS.6125……….I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE HOW MUCH I GET…..I EAGERLY WANT TO KNOW TOTAL HOW MUCH I GET AFTER DATE OF MATURITY? I WILL BE HIGHLY OBLIZED IF U PLZ HELP ME. MY AGE IS 29 YEARS WHEN I TAKE THIS PLAN AND MY INSURANCE AGENT ASSURED ME THAT YOU WILL GET 10 LAKHS ON MATURITY. IS IT TRUE OR FALSE PLZ SUGGEST ME.

Anil-Even if we consider as you will receive Rs.10, 00,000 then the return on your quarterly investment will be less than 6%. So think twice before proceeding further that with the kind of a return from this policy, will you able to fulfill your kid’s educational or marriage basic needs? If we consider inflation of 6% then return from this policy will ZERO (6%-6%).So you need a serious review of your investment.

Sir, My age is 30 years. I have invested Rs.15608/- per year in the Jeevan Ankur Policy for a term of 21 years on a sum assured of Rs.4,00,000/- at this age. Could you please say me the approximate amount i will get on maturity

Dear Basavaraj,

I have following LIC policy. I paid 3 installments. Do you know what is best thing to do with this policy? Continue again Vs Surrender?

Jeevan Anand With Profits (149 ) Tenure :: 16 year :: Yearly Premium = Rs. 1,82,200.00 Commencement Date : 12/24/2008

Vested Bonsus: 312500

I appreciate your reply ASAP.

Kotesh-Better to surrender and immediately buy the term plan and start investing based on your financial goals.

SIR,

I HAVE A JEEVAN SARAL POLICY STARTED AT 15-01-2011 AND MATURITY DATE IS 15-01-2031 WITH MONTHLY PREMIUM OF RS. 2000……….I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE HOW MUCH I GET…..I EAGERLY WANT TO KNOW TOTAL HOW MUCH I GET AFTER DATE OF MATURITY? I WILL BE HIGHLY OBLIZED IF U PLZ HELP ME……

Sukehn-How much your agent quoted?

Dear Mr. Basu Nivesh,

Greetings !

I have two insurance from LIC

1. Jeevan Anand With Profits (149 ) Tenure :: 21 year :: Yearly Premium = Rs. 25464 Commencement Date :: 05/08/2008 Maturity Date :: 05/08/2028.

2. Jeevan Saral With Profits ( 165 ) Tenure :: 20 Year :: Yearly Premium = Rs. 24020 Commencement Date :: 31/08/2011 Maturity Date :: 28/08/2031

Now my main concern is how which will i receive when these policy matures. Also please guide me shall i continue with them or discontinue ..

Please guide

Thanks & Regards

Anubhav

Anubhav-From both the policies approximate return will be around 7%. Better to discontinue Jeevan Anand now itself and Jeevan Saral after 5 years completion.

Dear Sir,

But LIC people confirmed me of Min. returns of 8.5% and they told me LIC expects returns of 10 %

Anubhav-Wow 🙂 Will they give in official writing that they will definitely generate a 8.5 % return and expecting 10% from these products? I will challenge that they will not. They may show you the illustrative examples by considering 8% and 10% returns (which is according to IRDA guideline), but it is only for illustrative purpose but not to claim that they will definitely generate.

Dear basuNivesh,

I have seen a valuable suggestions about JEEVAN SARAL.

I have taken endowment-14 LIC policy in year 2000 for 14 years SA 40,000/-, it is going to mature in NOVEMBER-2014. What is the amount will get on maturity.

kindly give details.

Best regards,

Rajkumar.

Hyderabad.

Rajukumar-It will be approximately around Rs.80,000. But I am not sure as I am not tracking the past 10 years bonus rate to calculate and say you.

Dear basavaraj,

Pl track and give details.

rajkumar.

The bosus details from 2008 to 2013 is 38.

Rajukumar-The only details I have is about five years. Hence I can’t. If you need then best to contact your agent who sold you or nearest LIC branch. Also past year bonus rates available on LIC site, let you do calculation yourself or ask your agent to do so as he has the responsibility but not me.

suggest me a good plan for my mother she is 59 yrs, i can pay maximum 50,000 to 60,000 yearly what will be the return and etc please let me know in détails.

Bhaskar-If I understand PLAN mean any INSURANCE PLAN, then a big NO. Life insurance is required to someone who have financial dependents. In my view I don’t think someone is dependent on your mother financially. So no need to go for any life insurance. Now investing Rs.50K to Rs.60K, may i know what is your expectations and why you want to invest?

Hello Sir,

I wanted to buy a Retirement Pension Plan but I am confused with LICs and other Private Bank Plans actually.

Could you please let me know what will be a good option for me to go for good benefits after retirement.

I am currently 28yrs old and would like to retire at around 60yrs. For which I want I should get around 1L/month of Pension at that time (as that time inflation will be very high as well). Please suggest what plan should I go for.

Meenu-My suggestion will be to first have term insurance to cover your life risk till 60 years of age. Start investing in a well diversified mutual fund. If you do so then definitely you will earn more than these plans. But I have a few questions for you, how you arrived at Rs.1, 00,000 is suffice for you? for how many years will be your life expectancy post retirement?

Hey Thanks for reply Sir.

1L is just a round about figure I am taking. For life expectancy I can go till 70yrs and by 60yrs I want to retire.

I already have a Jeevan Saral Plan with me for 35yrs which will cover life risk till my age is 60.

Please suggest some well diversified mutual funds so that I can check their quotes and how much returns can I make from them.

Thanks in advance

Meenu-Random consideration may some time cost you more. Because currently Rs.1 lakh may be a huge amount for you. But at your age of 60 years this may not suffice. So calculation based on your current expenses+commitments with inflated value will give you the future expenses, which again must be inflated yearly till your 70 years of age.

Ideal insurance coverage should be around 10-15 times of your yearly income (additional insurance coverage equal to your loans must be added to this, if any). So considering this, do you still feel the Jeevan Saral plan will actually suffice your insurance need? But at the same time I am not pitching you to buy such Insuance+Investment plans. Instead go for pure term insurance plans.

First do your basics like insurance, emergency funding and health insurance for your family. Then think about mutual funds or any further investments. True to say, you need to work more on your finance and solution will be getting right knowledge.

Basavaraj Tonagatti – sir i am going to join New money back 93 plan for 25 years… my policy is of 300000 … they are saying 45000 for 4 years then at the maturity 120000 +bonus … sir kindly help me to knw hw much excatly i get at the maturity with all benifits..

Prashanth-First of all let me know what is your requirement to go for this plan.

Basavaraj Tonagatti – Sir , am a bank clerk with 2years of work experience … For the past few weeks i was thinking of joining a policy with maximum benifit …. actually am in a learning phase on all type of policies.. I found you

are helping everbody with Good ideas regarding policy matters… Sir i would like to ask you which plan is the best for me for getting maximum benifit in short period of time .. i can go for maximum of Rs.300000 policy for 15 to 20 years period … please help me out with your sugesstions … am 26 years old … Hope you will help me out ……………

thank you

Prashanth-Let me know why you are so obsessed with LIC policies or insurance plans wherein Insurance+Investment both are mixed.

Thanks Sir, but how? calculation of 500,000 Rs + ( 500,000/1000*48*21=504,000 Rs is ok) 504,000 Rs = 10,04,000 Rs.

so i am bit confuse about 11,00,000 Rs. could you please explain me with the calculation.

Ronak-I added the remaining amount as there is a Final Additional Bonus on this plan. So I arrived at around Rs.11,00,000.

Ronak, my calculation goes this way..( I have considered the bonus rate as Rs.47/- per thousand per year.)

Bonus: 500,000/1000 *47 * 21 = 4,93,500/-

F.A.B. @Rs.100 per thousand = 50,000/-

Original Sum Assured = 5,00,000/-

__________

Total 10,43,500/- . Even after getting this amount on maturity, your risk cover for Rs.5,00,000/- continues. In case you decide not to continue with this cover and surrender it at the time of maturity itself, you get an additional amount of Rs.1.12.250/- making the total as Rs.11,55,750/-. If you calculate bonus @ 48/-, this amount would be Rs.11,66,250/- However there is no point in surrendering the policy cover on maturity. It is better to keep the cover after maturity as it is.

Sandeep-Can you please explain how you arrived at the value of Rs.1,12,250 ?

Hello,

I have taken a Jeevan Anand plan 149 Policy in 2013 Nov. At that time I was aged 28 years. My Policy term is 21 years. The premium I pay is Rs.25, 634/- Yearly). The Sum Assured mentioned in my Policy Bond is Rs. 5, 00,000/- . I would like to know how much I would receive after 21 years during my Policy Maturity. Kindly let me know please. at my email address is( [email protected] )

Ronak-It will be around Rs.11,00,000. (Rs.5,00,000 SA+Rs.5,04,000 Bonus @ Rs.48 per Rs.1,000 SA).

Thanks Sir, but how? calculation of 500,000 Rs + ( 500,000/1000*48*21=504,000 Rs is ok) 504,000 Rs = 10,04,000 Rs.

so i am bit confuse about 11,00,000 Rs. could you please explain me with the calculation.

Hello Are you there?

Ronak-Yes tell me.

Thanks Sir, but how? calculation of 500,000 Rs + ( 500,000/1000*48*21=504,000 Rs is ok) 504,000 Rs = 10,04,000 Rs.

so i am bit confuse about 11,00,000 Rs. could you please explain me with the calculation.

in reality, i went thru child plans of kotak too..

I then talked with the agent, (a friend of mine) and also the development officer of that LIC Branch and he showed me the calculations like this..

policy of BSA 20,00,000 for 20 yrs. ppt for 20 yrs.

accidental death benefit-40lkhs

premium waiver benefit with BSA or Accidental Benefit in case with all due maturity benefits after 20 yrs.

maturity details as showed to me-

on 17th yr i receive 20% of bsa- 4lkhs

on 18th yr too, 20% of bsa- 4lkhs

on 19th yr too, 20% of bsa- 4lkhs

on 20th yr remaining 40% of bsa-8lkhs.

bonus- per 1000,rs.45 (approx.)-for 20 yrs,-18lkhs

fab – per 1000,rs.50(approx.)-for 20 yrs-20lkhs ( also said that fab will be much more in the coming yrs.)

waiting in anticipation to hear from u..

thanks nd regards!

Sadun-I have a few questions for you. Will you work on these to discuss further?

1) You mentioned everything but missed the major part i.e premium you need to pay. Can you please share that to arrive at how much return this plan can generate?

2) Please confirm whether accidental benefits will be available post maturity or during the policy term only.

3) FAB is the one time payment payable at the end of maturity which is again based on SA. In your case you are claiming that SA is Rs.20,00,000 so FAB will be Rs.1,00,000 (if we consider @ Rs.50 per Rs.1,000 SA). So your return will not be Rs.20,00,000 additionally as FAB. Check this also with your agent.

Looking eagerly to hear from you.

Dear Sir,

I have been recommended to purchase a Komal Jeavan plan for my 6 months old son as below:

Rs 5Lac with single premium of approx 3.4Lac

Rs 5Lac with annual premium of approxs 35K.

I need advice here if this is the right way to go. My age is 38years.

Warm Regards,

Shridhar N

Shridhar-Even though it seems wonderful plan with GA, but premium is high and return from this plan will hover around 7%. So I don’t think it will be a wise decision to go for such a long term goal of your kid’s education or marriage.

Thanks Sir,

So what is your recommendation on what i should do to secure funds for my child education and future. Is there any other plan which i can look at.?

Thanks in advance.

rgds,

Shridhar N

Shridhar-First priority should be to have sufficient term insurance on your name, have health insurance for your family, build 3-6 months emergency amount then finally start investing based on goals. As your kids’ educational goal is long term, I strongly recommend you to invest around 30% into PPF and rest 70% into well diversified large cap mutual fund.

Thanks Sir,

I am already invested into all of the above for self and spouse and have all kinds of insurance and contingency fund, still recommend not to go for Komal Jeevan?

Any good MF for 10 years / 15 years term? May be a stupid question but sire i have it.

Thanks,

Shridhar N

Shridhar-If you have all in place then I don’t think what is forcing you to for such low yielding product for such long term goal. You can invest in Franklin India Bluechip Fund (G) and UTI Opportunities Fund (G). One is large cap and another is large and mid cap fund and both are well performing funds since long.

Thank You very much Sir.

Shridhar-Pleasure 🙂

hello basu..

I AM ABOUT TO START JEEVAN ANURAAG IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

BSA-20,00,000/- FOR 20 PPT.

CAN U TELL ME THE EXACT AMT. I WILL RECEIVE ON MATURITY?

[ INCLUDING ALL THE BENEFITS- 20%,20%,20%,40% +BONUS+FAB ]

THANKS….

Sadun-It is the traditional plan wherein return may be around 6% to 7%. So is it suffice to fulfill your kid’s education need with the kind of education inflation and marriage inflation? Have you thought whether this is the plan you chosen or your agent? Please let me know the reasons behind choosing this plan. Then we discuss in detail about the return.

Hi Basavaraj

I have a Jeevan Anurag policy, 20 years, yearly premium of 51381, S.A 10 Lacs.

Just completed 3 years..I want to surrender this policy now

Any idea how much the surrender value would be

The lic portal says the vested bonus is 88000

Regards

Vaidhya

Vaidhya-For exact amount, I suggest you to visit your nearest LIC branch.

Dear Basu, I have paid 10 yearly premium of Rs. 7821 each towards plan 14 (endowment assurance policy). Policy will mature in the year March, 2014. Sum assured 75000

Please let me know approximate maturity amount i get in the year 2014

Hi Basu, I have purchased the money back policy – 20 years (t.no. 75) Sum insured 5 lac. I want to how much amount I’ll be getting on maturity. I’m paying premium 31,292.

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Amit

Amit-Return from such policy will be around 6%.

dear mr basu, i have taken jeevan saral policy of lic in 2009 with annual premium of 60,000. pl tell me what will be my expected total return after 15 years. and also how much amount i expect if i surrender the policy after 5 years annual premium payment. thank you.

Suresh-If you wait till 15 years then your return on investment will be around 6% to 7%. Regarding the valuation of surrendering after 5 years, I don’t have data to suggest you. Hence you may contact your nearest LIC branch.

dear mr basu,the fund type is growth only. pl let me know the expected return. i can not understand the chart. what if i surrender my policy now.

Harendra-It is continuously underperfoming funded. Also when you look at pure investment post the expenses then it needs to work wonderful magical returns to give you positive returns. Regarding future performance, I am not sure how the fund performs. Hence my suggestion will be to come out of this plan.

dear mr basu, i have taken lic profit plus plan(T188). i have paid all of my premium terms of 5 years of 20,000 each. i have sum assured amount as 200,000 rupees at the end of 20 years i.e. in jan 2029. pl kindly let me know how much return should expect? thank you.

Harendra-I am not sure which of fund you are investing (Growth, Balanced or Secured). But the performance is not good for Growth Option, you can view the detailed historical performance in this link http://www.morningstar.in/insurance/f00000h4qx/lic-of-india-profit-plus-growth/performance.aspx

hello sir , can u pls tell me about lic’s market plus-1 (table no 191) and lic money plus , is it good policy or not , these policies have taken by my dad on the base of advisor , but i’ve doubt , that these polices are not very good in consideration of security pls help me and give reply soon

thanks

Manisha-Yes your guess is correct. Because in these plans costs are more. So to get a positive return you need to wait for the long term. Also considering the cost it is very hard to get good return over the long term also. Hence my suggestion will be to come out of these plans if the minimum period is over. Instead the cheapest option is to go through mutual fund direct plans if you really need the equity investment.

hello sir, i have lot of queries regarding lic’s plan ans so on pls pls help me,

my first query is … i’ve taken lic profit plus plan (plan no . 188) , what is benifit under this plan , and how i calculate maturity amount ,

Mr. Basu can you tell me how is single premium whole life plan of LIC ?

My agent says if I take this for my son who is 18 years old the single premium( I have to pay only once ) will be approx. 1,61,000 for the SA of 5,00,000. the history of bonus LIC has declared for this plan is 70 rs/- i.e. every year 35,000 will be bonus which will accumulate every year .

Chetna-I agree that whole life plans pay highest bonus rate compare to other plans. But do remember that this yearly accumulation of Rs.35,000 will be given back to your kid once he reaches the age of 80 years or policy completes 40 years (whichever is later). Also this Rs.35,000 will not earn any interest till maturity. So it is the same Rs.35,000 what you get after policy maturity. Then what will be the value of Rs.35,000 after 40 years or 80 years of your kid’s age? Too small.

I don’t think it is wise decision to invest. He is young and if he is earning then let him take the advantage of equity investment+some portion of debt products rather than such products. But the decision is left with you.

I want to put the LIC POLICY My age is 36 Years Which Policy is good for me I want to pay around 7000 quarterly premium

Jain-In my view none of them will actually best. So stay away. Instead my suggestion will be to opt for term plan to cover your life risk and start investing based on your financial goals.

Dear Basavaraj,

I had take Jeevan Mitra (Triple Cover Endowment Plan) polices for 15 years terms in 2008 and my age is 29 now; Sum Assured is 5 lakh. My insurance Agent advised me that I will get arround 14 lakh on maturity. I want to know waht would be average maturity amount for my insurance.

Thanks for your help.

Sandeep

Sandeep-This is the normal traditional plan but the only exception is death cover it offers. So you may predict around a 7 % return from this product. I don’t think return from this plan will cross more than Rs.11,00,000.

Thanks Basavaraj ji. I appreciate very useful information shared by you!! Happy Diwali and festival Season!!

Sandeep-Pleausre and belated Diwali wishes to you and your family 🙂

Dear Basavaraj,

I had take Jeevan Saral (165) polices for 10 years as well as 15 years terms in 2011 and my age is 28 now;

10 years term policy ; i am paying -6125 rupees Qly (Annually 24,500)= Maturity Sum assured is Rs. 2,22,260

15 years term policy; i am paying- 6125 rupees Qly (Annually 24,500)= Maturity Sum assured is Rs. 3,89,880

I understood on maturity (on survival) i will get sum assured + Loyalty addition.

Please clarify me what is the actual amount i am going to get on maturity of both 10 year policy and 15 year policy.

Waiting for your reply

Regards

Lava Nayak

Lava Nayak-In both the cases your MSA is guaranteed. Apart from this the fluctuating part will be LA. Considering the current LA trend you may presume that for 10 years policy your LA will be Rs.77,791 (LA @ Rs.350 per Rs.1,000 MSA for a yearly premium blend of Rs.20,001 to Rs.50,000). Same for 15 years policy will be Rs.1,85,193 (LA @ Rs.475 per Rs.1,000 MSA for a yearly premium blend of Rs.20,001 to Rs.50,000).

Thanks Basavaraj, Happy for your information

Adding further to it…. the LIC agent had fooled me showing a chart of LIC Jeevan Saral; please suggest me any other good policy with guarantee money back with more returns than jeevan Saral

Thanks & Regards

Lava Nayak

Lavan Nayak-That is why it is always important to learn then invest. My suggestion will be not to club Insurance+Investment. Hence suggest you to buy term plan for the SA of around 10-12 times of your yearly income. Rest invests based on your financial goals. I don’t think any LIC traditional plans will give you better returns over the long run. If you are really looking for secured products they try FDs or PPF. It is left with you how you take the risk for each financial goal.

Hi Basavarai,

I have taken a Jeevan Anand plan 149 Policy in 2012 jan. At that time I was aged 31 years. My Policy term is 25 years. The premium I pay is Rs.57,964/- Yearly. The Sum Assured mentioned in my Policy Bond is Rs. 14, 00,000/- . I would like to surrender the policy after paying next premium in Jan 2014 (2013-14), then surrender value would be how much and when I will get the money?. SuggeKindly let me know please at my email address is ([email protected])

Mangesh-Regarding exact surrender value, I suggest you to contact your nearest LIC branch or servicing branch. You will get the surrender value immediately once you agree for surrender.

Hello,

I have taken a Jeevan Anand plan 149 Policy in 2012 jan. At that time I was aged 32 years. My Policy term is 15 years. The premium I pay is Rs.6083/- Quarterly (Rs.24, 332/- Yearly). The Sum Assured mentioned in my Policy Bond is Rs. 3, 00,000/- . I would like to know how much I would receive after 15 years during my Policy Maturity. Kindly let me know please. at my email address is([email protected])

Janardhan-I suggest you to do your work yourself by reading above post. Let me know if you find any difficulty.

indly let me know please

Janardhan-You will receive SA Rs.3,00,000+ Bonus of Rs.1,80,000 (Bonus @ Rs.40 per Rs.1,000 SA for the plans of 15 years)=Rs.4,80,000.

i have taken jeevan sathi and its premium is 47753 for 25 years it is good or not investment point of view and risk cover how much money get after 25 years and accidental how much cover.please advise me.

Vijay-First I have few questions back to you. Can you please answer these?

1) Why you bought this policy?

2) Do you think this is sufficient insurance coverage?

3) What return you expected while investing this plan?

Hello,

I have taken a Jeevan Anand policy of SA 2500000 for 30 yrs. what will be the maturity amount?

for my wife I have taken Jeevan anand of SA 1500000 for 25 yrs. what will be the maturity amount?

Thank You.

Ravi-Please do share with me the reasons behind choosing and investing in these plans. Then we start interactions on maturity amount 🙂

Hello Sir,

Thanks a lot for this helpful article.

My age is 26 yrs and recently I bought my first LIC Policy named – ‘New Bima Gold’ (Plan-179). Under that policy, I need to pay a premium of Rs.37,204/- annually for the term of 16 yrs and for the Sum Assured of 7,50,000/-.

Can you please share your valuable reviews on this plan and its alternative LIC plans available. Also it would be great if you can let me know how to calculate the Maturity Value for this plan when the policy gets mature after 16 years. Is this policy entitled for FAB and how the Bonus / LA / FAB is calculated in this plan.

Thanks.

HI Mr Basu

I have taken a Jeevan anand policy in sep 2013 for the sum assured of 10 lakh is jeevan anand policy is eligible for final additional bonus because in lic website the 2011-2012 bonus chart jeevan anand table no. 149 not shown in FAB cloumn. Pls provide the solution on my mail : [email protected]

Mohit-I don’t think this FAB will be a big game changer in return part. Let me know what is your exact doubt.

Hi Basavaraj,

I am planning to purchase LIC policy and contacted the agent and he suggested to go for Plan 48 assurance plan. For PPT 20 and maturity at 25 years the premium would be around 17800 yearly for the age of 23 years, Can you please guide me how is this plan and what would be the maturity amount.

Thanks,

Satish ([email protected])

Satish-This plan is another traditional plan and returns will be low. So my suggestion will be a big NO.

Can you pls tell me the return as per current bonus/fab rates.

Thank you very much

Bhanu-Pleasure 🙂

Hi Basavaraj,

Tx for this outstanding article, it is helping so many people.

I took Jeevan anand policy in 2003 for 25 yrs for 5L SA, premium of Rs 20,250 per yr. Now website says vested bonus Rs 241,000,

I’m thinking whether to continue or surrender it, I have already taken one term plan of 50L from Aviva

-could you please advise if I continue this LIC policy how would be the maturity amount

-I contracted LIC and they said surrender value would be Rs 182,592

– Is it good idea to take the money and invest in debt fund/PPF/equity or continue for another 15 years..

Girish-It is best to discontinue or convert it to paid up and come out of this plan. The reasons are, the best part is you have term plan placed in your life already to cover your life risk, you can earn more than this plan if you invest the surrender proceedings and future premium in any of debt products like what you mentioned and it doesn’t serve any purpose in committing the same mistake for the rest of 12 years.

Thanks lot, much appreciated

Girish-Pleasure 🙂

Sorry, one more Q Basavaraj, as website says vested bonus Rs 241,000, is it only bonus or premium paid+bonus

Girish-No it is only bonus which not include your paid premium amount.

Dear Basavaraj, I too have a JEEVAN ANAND where I have paid 5 premiums till date. Now I want to stop paying premium and convert them to PAID-UP. My Only question is will it participate in future BONUS addition on the Reduced Paid Up SA ?

Kranti-Once you opt for paid up then your policy will not participate in future bonus addition. But the only difference between paid up to surrender is, paid up will be higher than surrender.

OH…thats again an eye opener from you, thank you. Also the BONUS accumulated till date will it be payable on maturity or will it again be modified based on reduced SA ?

Kranti-No whatever bonus accumulated as of today will be paid to you.

Hello Basavaraj, My JEEVAN ANAND Plan (Right Now Paid Up Mode). The Bonus accumulated as per lic website till date is Rs.13,37,150/- . I had paid premium of Rs.1,20,510/- PA for 5 years (total Rs.6,02,550) . Can you please help me in giving surrender value ?

Kranti-Contact nearest LIC branch.

Hi, what is the bonus rate 2013-14 for HDFC endowment policy ?

Neha-I don’t have that data with me. Better you contact HDFC itself.

hello sir, I have few doubts regarding these endowment policies . My Mother have a LIC policy with assured amount of 1,00,000 and yearly paid premium is Rs. 64XX /- and maturity period is 17 year from Feb 2013. My question is why the investment value is less than the return .which is as follows

If I pay Rs.6420 for 17 year then total investment is Rs,109140

But Sum assured is only 1,00,000 after 17 year

I think it it’s a insurance without bonus . But My question is why Sum assured is less than the total investment ?

Is the sum taken by the agents and bank heads ?

Prabir-Sum Assured is the life risk your insurance company will provide your mother during this 17 year period. Suppose something happens to your mother then her nominee will receive the Sum Assured along with the accrued bonus till that period. So from the policy start period this Sum Assured will be same (where as in the first year you only pay Rs.6, 420 but your insurance company providing you the life risk of Rs.1,00,000). At the end if it is participating plan then your mother will receive Rs.1, 00,000+Bonus+LA (if any) based on the plan feature.

So don’t confuse with Sum Assured available during the policy period to the maturity amount.

Sir i have bought jeevan anand policy(table 149) for 10lakh.They have convetred the amount into 1lakh per bond.They give me 10 bond paper.I have taken this policy for 30 years term.My age is 23 years.Agents has told me that i will got at 30 year 6lkh,at 31 6.5lakh and so on,….till 39th year 10.5lakh.Is it return correct and if correct then can you send me detail in my mail how is it calculataed.I am very confused some person told me that this type of policy doesn’t exist.

Vibhorkarn-From each Rs.1,00,000 Sum Assured policy I don’t know how your agent claiming that you will get Rs.6,00,000 at maturity and it goes on increasing for each policy. First ask your agent how he arrived at this values, what bonus rate he considered to arrive at this calculation. Because for me it looks complete mis-selling.

Hi, What do you mean by team Plan? Is it belong to LIC policy?

May I know this policy in details please?

Bhanu-Term plans are the actual insurance products. Wherein you will pay a premium only towards the life risk they are giving you. For example if Mr.X whose age 30 years opted for term plan of Rs.1,00,00,000 and policy term as 35 years. Then from his 30 years of age to 65 years his life will be covered for Rs.1,00,00,000 Sum Assured. If during the policy period he dies then his nominee will be eligible to receive the sum assured. But if nothing happens during this period then he will not receive anything. That is why these are cheapest products where you can cover your life risk fully .

Hi basavaraj,

My policy term for 15 years and i started 2 yeras ago. now i am 27.

The sum assured is 5 lacs. It’s a jeevan anand 149.

I am paying Rs.9675 per quarter. my vested bonus now shows as 19500. So after 15years, how much can i get, also i’m confused about the bonus calculation.

Naga-Please read the above post in detail you will come to know how to do the calculation.

what could be the return i will get after 15 years

I invested Rs.10,000 p.m for 30 yrs in Jeevan Saral. I want to Know that After 30 yrs what amount I should get approximately!

Swapnil-Please let me know your age when you bought this plan.

Hi Basavaraj, I found this website extremely informative. I have one question regarding moneyback policy. Does the final cheque from LIC include the bonus amount or the bonus cheque comes separately? i have a 20-year moneyback policy with 20% payout every 5 years and 40% at the end of the term. Thanks.

Manas-No final cheque includes both the remaining SA payout and bonus also.

i am in a fix, i have a LIC endowment policy (table 14) with a annual premium of 30000 PA term-33 years, i am planing to invest in a pension plan with premium of 40000 PA for 33 years .i need your suggesition can i take up this penion plan or not. i am a fresh graduate and not aware of the benefits and other formalitys,

Theena-It is wonderful that you planned your retirement so early. But considering the time frame you have, I don’t think this will be a better choice for you. Returns will be so low that they are almost equal to the inflation rate. So think twice before going ahead 🙂

7,613 is my Quarterly premium amount to be paid to LIC

Basavaraj…Appreciate your efforts…

I have enrolled for New Bima Gold Policy…below are my Policy details:

Name- New Bima Gold

Plan-179

Commencement Date- 7/8/2012

Sum Assured- 6,00,000

Quarterly – 7613

Term- 16 years

Age-26

Can you please let me know..how much returns or final sum amount i will get after maturity?

Appreciate your help…

Praful

I have a LIC policy No.271414457 commenced from 7/2004 and premium paid up to 7/2012 continuously on half yearly basis @Rs.2828/- and now proposed for surrender. what will be surrender value now

Deepika-I am not sure about which plan you are saying about. The second thing it is better to contact your nearest LIC branch to get the exact value about the surrender value.

Thank you so much for your valuable information…

Hi Basavaraj – i was not internet trying to understand on vested interest and bumped into your site through google. I firstly thank you providing great insights and sharing tons of information through clarifications.

Secondly i would like to enquire upon one of the policies i have taken.

I had taken Jeevan Shree 1(T. No 162-15) since Jan 2006 when I was 32. Policy Term is 15 years and PPT is 10 years. Premium is Rs 37856 qtly.

I not sure what the returns would be upon completion of PT. I would greatly appreciate u, if you can give an insight into the returns/maturity amount on completion of the ploicy term.

I just checked on the website and it shows a vested bonus of 306000/- as on date towards my policy.

1) Is the maturity amount taxable?

2) Understand every year some bonus will be accrued to me.Will that be taxable?

Saj-1) You have not mentioned the Sum Assured available for this plan. Hence I am unable to reply to your question. But for the better understanding of taxation of Life Insurance, I suggest you to visit my post “Tax Benefits of Life Insurance“.

2) Every year bonus accumulation will not be taxable income. But maturity proceeds will again depend on the sum assured you opted, date of commencement of policy and the premium you are paying.

Hope I resolved your questions. If you still have doubts then let me know.

Hi Basavaraj – Thanks for the response and i shall surely visit the post you indicated.

On the SA it is 15lakhs/-. And what do you suggest in terms of continuing on this policy with indicated vested bonus?

Saj-Instead I suggest you to ask for the surrender value of the policy from LIC branch. Share the same with me then we discuss further what action you can take.

Thanks, Basavaraj. Sure i can check on the surrender value and revert. However can i ask how much the returns would be for such a plan assuming if i continue and given the vested bonus incurred till date?

Saj-It will be around 6-7%.

Hi Basavaraj – Thanks! I am trying to put in my calculations here but i might be wrong, appreciate if you could validate and advise.

Considering the current trend for the term of 15 years bonus and if based on your article “LIC’s Bonus rates for 2012-13 and comparison” if i consider is Rs.38 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured. So total accrued bonus at end shall be Rs.8,55,000. Subsequently the maturity amount shall be approximately Rs.15,00,000 (SA)+Rs.8,55,000 (Bonus)=Rs.23,55,000 – Is this correct?

On vested bonus amount 306000/- that shows up on site, am i right to say that this amount is for first 5 years where bonus per year is 57000/- and will continue till full term i.e. 15 yrs which would be ~=Rs.8,55,000 as above. Correct?

Can i call this vested bonus amount as GA?

And is this the only component of return i can expect for Jeevan Shree-1?

Saj-For the first 5 years it is Guaranteed Addition of Rs.50 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured. So for 5 years total GA will be Rs.3,75,000. From 6th year onwards it is based on the bonus declared by LIC on this policy. Hence currently for this policy for the tenure of 15 years bonus rate is Rs.42 per Rs.1,000 SA ( I don’t know where you took Rs.38). So total bonus for the remaining 10 years will be Rs.6, 30,000. So total bonus from this policy will be Rs.10,05,000. Maturity amount will be Rs.15,00,000 (SA)+Rs.10,05,000 (Bonus including GA)=Rs.25,05,000.

In your case guaranteed bonus for each year for the first 5 years will be Rs.75, 000. So for total 5 years this GA will be Rs.3,75,000. This is the vested bonus for your first 5 years which you may say as GA too. This is the only return you can expect from LIC on this plan.

Thanks! Basavaraj, now it is clear .

Saj-Pleasure 🙂

Dear Sir,

I have bought LIC endowment plan last year. My half yearly premium is Rs.23,600/-. Policy term is 21 years and Sum assured is Rs.10,00000/-. Kindly tell me about the final Maturity amount and the amount of loan I can take after 3 years.i. e next year? Thanks in advance.

Siyang-I am not sure which endowment policy you took. Can you name please??

New Jana Raksha Plan with Profits. . 🙂

Waiting still sir…

Siyang-On maturity you will receive Sum Assured Rs.10,00,000+Bonus of Rs.7,35,000 (I considered the current bonus rate which is Rs.35 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured per year)=Rs.17,35,000. Regarding the loan availability on this plan, I suggest you to contact the nearest LIC branch.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion.

Siyang-Pleasure 🙂

Hi Sir, Iam Santosh and had opted for an LIC policy with SA of 3Lacs in the year 1996, my then agent had given me three 20-year Jeevan Mitra(Triple Cover) policies of SA 1Lac each. My Qtrly premium for each policy is Rs.1352/-. Till date I have paid for 13years. Could you please advise me on the following.

a) I understand that if I survive the term of the policy, I would get SA of 1 Lac from each policy. Would I be entitled to any bonuses then? What total amount would I get?

b) Is it really worth to continue this policies further in view of the inflation or the devaluation of the Rupee or surrendering would be a wise descision? If so, how much will i get upon surrender now?

Thanks in advance.

Santosh-My answers are as below.

a) Along with Sum Assured you are entitled to bonus also. Please refer your account where they already mentioned the accumulated bonus for the policy. Else visit your nearest branch to know the same.

b) Exactly right, they are not worth when you consider the inflation. But you already into the trap since 13 years. To make a better decision please let me know your term of the policy. Then only I can suggest the best option.

Hi Sir, Kindly note I’ve already mentioned the term – three 20-year Jeevan Mitra(Triple Cover) policies of SA 1Lac . Rgds

Santosh-Better to surrender. But before proceeding have a pure life insurance called Term Insurance.

Dear Sir, Thanks for your time & guidance. Keep up the good work..Best Wishes..in all aspects of life.

Will be in touch..My number is below…

– Santosh, Bangalore

+91-9480198158

Santosh-You are welcome and hope you spread this awareness among your known 🙂

hi sir, can u pls help me out , i have a big confusion regarding my lic jeevan anand policy. sum assured- 10 lacs, tenure-30 yrs. i took this policy last yr only… can u pls tel me hw much amount will i get at the time of maturity??

my agent told me that after adding bonus, interest, addtional bonus etc etc , i will be getting above 40 lacs after 30 yrs.. is it true or false ?? what approx amount will i get and what all are the calculations pls revert. thanks in advance.

Bhanu-If we calculated based on the current bonus rate trend which Rs.47 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured then your return from this policy will be Rs.10,00,000 (SA)+Bonus Rs.14,10,000=24,10,000. I don’t know how your agent calculated.

hi,

In money back policy of 20 years.i paid upto 15 months.each month i paid Rs.4655.i am not paying for last 4 years.now i want to surrender my policy.f surrender how much money i will get from lic.please anyone help me in this regard.

Abhaya-To surrender any policy you must at least paid 3 years of premium. Hence you can’t surrender it. To make it surrender, you need to pay the remaining dues then you can go ahead for surrendering.

My monthly premium is Rs 4655.i already paid 15 months that’s coming nearly Rs 4655*15=Rs 69825.if i will pay now for 21 months which coming around Rs 4655*21=Rs 97,775.total will be Rs 1,67,600.then when i will get my my money back if i surrender my policy and how much amount i will get.please let me know.thanks a lot for replying first comment.

Abhaya-Before proceeding to reactivate this policy. First check it out how much you receive if you pay for. You can’t pay for only 21 months and re-activate it. They insist you pay till date. In this case ask them how much you get back if you surrender immediately. Then check for viability whether to continue or discontinue. I am unable to arrive at an exact surrender value, hence for exact value you contact to your nearest branch. They will give you the exact amount.

I need genuine feedback from “anyone tooooo”……..for my above mentioned query..

Thanks in advance again!!

Hi Basavaraj Tonagatti,

Hope you are doing well!!

I need your valuable favor that I want to purchase a policy for INVESTMENT purpose…Right now I am 24 years of age, want tenure period would say 22 to 25 years..please suggest me which policy I should purchase with high “GUARANTED RETURNS”, monthly i can pay RS.2000 (yearly 24000 to 25000)….

Please explain me with the calculation…what I will get after 25 years…..And I am interested in JEEVAN ANAND……OR u can tell me the BEST POLICY FOR ME which policy or insurance will give me the high, best, safe and guaranteed returns…..

I will be very thankful if u please help me out…..

Thanks in advance!!

Regards,

Neeraj

Neeraj-For your information, nothing is guaranteed on this earth when you are investing. FDs,RDs or other than some fixed deposits, but that too for shorter period of like 5 years or 10 years. When your goal is long term then don’t expect guaranteed returns even from PPF or LIC products too. Hence my suggestion will be first to take term plan to cover your life to the tune of 10-12 times of your yearly income. Then with the remaining surplus start investing based on your goals. Short term-Fixed products or Debt funds, Long Term-Mixture of Debt+Equity will work out better than running behind any plan.

Dear Basu

Thanks for your article….is their any plan which gives 3 times of my investment in 20 years for an age of 16,if i invest 7000 per month and i have already jeevan anand for 16 years and yearly premium 105048 with sum assured of rs 15 lac and how much i get after 16 years.

mail: [email protected]

Ajay-Do you know the rate of return you are expecting? It is around 9.58% which is not possible from any of such traditional plans. Currently the bonus rate for a 16 year policy is Rs.43 per Rs.1, 000 of SA. So you will receive Rs.15,00,000 (SA)+Rs.10,32,000 (Bonus)=Rs.25,32,000.

Dear Basu,

Was reading all your replies to help us understand about LIC policies…your doing a great job ..hats off!

To my doubt now,

I have invested in LIC jeevan anand policy starting may 2013 and the last payment for this policy is dec 2023.

Sum assured: 4 lakhs

Annual premium : 48340 rs.

term : 10 years.

how much will I get after 10 years after this policy matures including bonus and all?

is this correct thing what I did by opting for jeevan anand?

and also the agent told me after completion of my 10 years policy I will be eligible for accident death benifit for the total sum assured i.e 4 lakhs till my life time or after 3 years (i.e13th year) I can opt out of this and get 60% amount of the sum assured ….is this true?

Looking forward to your reply

Thanks

Gopi

Gopi-Insurance is the long term contract. Also return from traditional policies will be based on period. Longer period means better returns than shorter. But it does not mean that you will get the best return if you opted for 20 or 25 years. Return from your policy will be around 5%. Now about the life risk-Do you know at what price currently insurance companies offering you term plan for SA of Rs.4,00,000? They are very cheap may be in terms of few hundred. So don’t attach to that option. Regarding 60% sum assured payout after maturity-I am not sure. Because LIC never mentioned anything about how much they pay if you surrender the post maturity life risk coverage.

Hello Basu and Everyone,

I have a doubt in bonus calculation and I hope you could clear it out. Thank you.

Scenario:

Mr.X buys a with profit plan.

Policy Term – 20 yrs

Consider this is the 3rd year of policy term.

Bonus announced for the plan is as below:

<11 yrs 38

11 – 15 yrs 42

16 – 20 yrs 46

21 – 25 yrs 50

Question:

Now, how do I calculate the returns?

a. Because my policy term is 20 years, is the bonus for current year is 46?

b. Because I'm in the 3rd year of my policy term, the bonus is only 38 for this year?

Thank you,

Irvin

Irvin-As your policy term is 20 years so the applicable bonus rate for your example will be Rs.46 but not Rs.38.

Thanks much!

Irvin-Pleasure 🙂

Hi

Below are my policy details..

JEEVEN ANAND(WITH PROFITS)(WITH ACCIDENT BENEFITS)

POLICY COMMENCE DATE – OCT/2008

SUM ASSURED – 500000/-

HALF YEARLY PREMIUM – 13107/-

LAST PREMIUM – APR/2029

Can you please let me know, how much will I receive on survival??

Its just that the lic agent i took the policy from is someone i knew from a friends -friend and i have no detail of the agent and not able to understand my policy docs.

Thanks

Gee-Return from this policy will be around 6-7%. So better to discontinue.

Dear Basavaraj,

I have a Jeevan Shree Policy, the vested bonus is shown zero?

What should i do ?

Praveen

Praveen-May I know the policy commencement date?

Commencement date is 2002, Thanks

Praveen-In Jeevan Shree (older version what you took in 2002) only have Guaranteed Addition not the bonus. Hence it is showing like that. So no need to worry on that part.

Thanks Basavaraj,

does it means that i am in loss.

Praveen-No it is not like that. Don’t worry 🙂

I had invested 50000 in HDFC sampoorn samiridhi plan for 25 yrs. What maturity value I will get

Rahul-I don’t have bonus information on this plan. Hence better to contact HDFC customer care to acquire the same.

Namaskara Basu,

Please share your email Id… have some queries with regards to Jeevan Anand…

Vandanegalondige..

Raghavendra-My contact details are available on “Contact us” page of this blog.

Hello Basavaraj,

Here’s my details:

DoB: 02-12-1972

Policy: Jeevan Anand (2 polices)

Date of commencement: 17-01-2007, Term: 21, SA: 5.00L, Premium: 26,774 annually and

Date of commencement: 22-01-2007, Term: 21, SA: 5.00L, Premium: 6,906 quarterly.

1. What would be the approximate return of Income?

2. @ this point in time, is it advisable to switch over to any other plan (with good return of income)

Need your suggestion.

Raghavendra-My answers are as below.

1) Return will be around 6-7%.

2) You already completed more than 3 years. Hence suggest you either go for surrender or paid up of the policies. But before proceeding, have a pure life insurance called Term Plan to the tune of minimum 10-12 times of your yearly income. If possible buy health insurance, accidental insurance and critical illness insurance individually. Then go ahead for investment based on your financial goals.

Thank you Basavaraj.. Much appreciated.

Sir,

I am having a jeevan shree without profit policy ( sum assured Rs 5 lacs )( 112-15-08) started in jan 2002 with a premium of Rs 56000/– annually going to be matured in 2017. Can anybody tell how much is the matured amount?

I G SRREEKUMARAN

Sreekumaran-In my view Jeevan Shree is with a profit plan but not without profit plan. So can you clarify this from your end?

sir,

in my policy it is written that JEEVAN SHREE without profit ( Without Accident Benefit) started in Jan 2002 and Rs 75/- per thousand as Guaranteed addition. Whether I will get any other amount along with this ??

Sreekumaran-You will receive Rs.5,00,000 SA+Rs.5,62,500 (Considered Rs.75 GA per Rs.1,000 SA for 15 years term)=Rs.10,62,500.

I think our friend will be entitled to loyalty addition also in addition to the amount stated above, at the rate applicable in the year of maturity (2017) as it increases year after year, hope i am right?

Balagopal-Even if he entitled to LA then I don’t think it will add that much difference to his return part. So I neglected in considering that value.

Hi Basavaraj, i too have jeevan shree policy taken in jan 2002 , premium of 25,000 Per year for 16 years and plan is for 25 years. GA is rs 75 per thousad sum assured which comes to around ( 9,37,500 ). based on this what i can expect is 5,00,000 ( SA )+ GA = 1437500 but does this have any LA or Loyalty bonus at the maturity date ?

Srinivas-Even if this policy have LA or Final Additional Bonus, both are too less and will not any game changers in your return part.

sir, If you have no idea about maturity amount, please tell the fact\. Please dont misguide the policy holders as they could surrender the policy.

Ravi-Let me know about where I misguided the policyholders?

Deos 6% return include Reguler, loyalty and final additional bonuses

if so, what would be the aprox amount of maturity?

Shashi-It includes everything and it is based on present bonus rates. Regarding approximate maturity, I need to go through in detail which is not possible for me as this is closed policy. Better you contact your nearest LIC branch.

Thanks for your quick reply. Plan is covertible whole life policy Table No.27 from LIC of India

Shashi-If you look at a current bonus rate of this plan (Rs.48 per Rs.1, 000 SA). So I don’t feel any extraordinary feature in this plan apart from premium flexibility like lesser during the first few years and will increase later. So return will be around 6%.

Dear Basavaraj

I am having Convertible Whole Life policy taken in 1998 with a maturity period of 21 years for a sum assured Rs.500000/- and first five years not participated bonsue with a yearly premium of 6000 (5*6000) and later premium of INR 30000 per annuam (16*30000). Please let me know what would be maturity amount and the rate of return

Shashi-May I know the plan name and Insurer?

Dear Basavaraj,

I have a Jeevan Saral policy taken 3 years back when my age was 25. The policy is for 20 years, and my annual premium is 36,000.

My sum assured is 7,50,000. How should I calculate my Maturity Sum assured (MSA) and the total surrender value of my policy (approx) including Loyalty additions?

Thank you for the kind help.

Raghu-Please refer my post “LIC’s Jeevan Saral-Why so much confusion?“

Dear Basavaraj,

Thanks for the pointer.may be I am too naive, but from the post, I couldn’t understand how to calculate loyalty addition for 20 year plan. I would be really obliged if you can please point me in the right direction.

I really appreciate your help.

Thank you!

Raghu-As of now they provided the LA for 10th and 11th year policies…so the same way you can predict LA for 20 years of policies too (differentiating around Rs.50 for each year). But it is just for understanding, so it may vary slightly.

Basavaraj,

Thanks. So I did some calculations as below:

1. MSA as written on policy is 14,50,000

2. LA : Assuming LA rate of 750 for 20th year, the total LA would be ((14,50,000 / 1000) * 750) = 10,87,500.

So total amount that I will probably get will be 14,50,000 + 10,87,500 = 25,37,500.

Am i going wrong with the calculation anywhere? Because it is looking like a healthy rate of return to me. Or is there a better investment option?

Thanks a ton for your help on this. I really do appreciate it.

Raghu-From where you got this MSA? It is totally wrong. According to me your MSA is around Rs.8,34,420. So even if we consider the LA at around Rs.800 per Rs.1,000 MSA then total LA will be Rs.6,67,536. So total maturity will be Rs.15,01,956. Now decide yourself whether this is a decent return for a long term of 20 years 🙂

Dear Basavaraj,

I have LIC Jeevan Anand policy since 2008 till 2028 with half yearly premium of 26,368. Sum assured is 10 L. At the maturity how much I can expect as minimum return (considering the worst performance in coming years). Will it be a better option to stop this and let the money invested till date be there with LIC and withdraw in 2028 and invest the same amount in montly SIP or bank RD. In this case I will take term plan. Please suggest, Thank You.

Vinay-Better to surrender policy instead of paid up. If you paid up the policy the value will remain with LIC and you receive it on maturity. Instead if you surrender (even though it is less than paid up) you will receive immediately. You can invest the same in any other product based on your goal. What you decided to go for term plan and rest invested in SIP is the best option. Go ahead by surrendering this policy instead paid up.

Dear Mr Basavraj,

Its been a pleasure going through your article. Explains a lot of things, and definitely clears loads of doubts.

I have taken Jeevan Shree-1(T. No 162) since June 2009 when I was 28. Policy Term is 10 years and PPT is 6 years. Premium is Rs.43143 half yearly.

I just cannot comprehend what would be the returns like. I shall be highly grateful to u if you can give an insight into the returns on completion of the policy term.

Thanks and regards

Anoop

Anoop-Return will hover around 6%.

Hello sir, my name Satender Dubey, I have a money back policy in my name.My daughter is just 15 month old and I suppose to invest around 15 k per year somewhere which will be for her future in the name of mine.So please advice can I buy a jeevan annand policy from LIC or any other policy that can give more benefits then this.

Please advice.

Satender-Please stay away from LIC plans. Instead take term plan and invest rest in PPF (if you are totally risk averse) else start monthly SIP in a well diversified fund.

Hello Basvaraj ,

I want to buy child policy, my child age is 4 months….kindly suggest me wchich plan of lic is better for me….how is jivan kishor and komal jivan?

In jivan kishor, if I would go for rs. 10 lakhs sum assured’ then montly premium is rs 4500/- .. term is 20 yrs….. i ,m confused how the retun amt. Is calculated? At the time of maturity, how much I would get as a total amt.? Kindly let me know in details how the return amt. Is calculated?

Regards,

naresh

Naresh-Serious question from me-Suppose Mr.x has a kid whose name is “A”, then if something happens to Mr.X who will suffer financially? His kid “A” right? Reverse-If something happens to his kid “A” then will Mr.X loose something financially? Insurance is the need for the person who has someone dependent financially. So never try to buy an insurance for your kid’s name instead cover your life risk first by buying a term plan for yourself.

Sir,

I have taken child career policy table 184 with sum assured Rs 15,00,000/- and monthly premium Rs 4850/-. Policy term is 27 years. Premium paying term 22 years.

As per my adviser, the returns from LIC are:

after 22 years — 24,30,000/-

then 2,25,000/- yearly for next 4 years and

then 12,30,000/- final return next year.

I am doubtful on the returns.

Vipin-Please ask your agent to give the validation of the same. Then we discuss in detail whether his claim is correct or wrong.

Good Morning Basvaraj,

My quesion is ,can an individual deposit a certain amount in the EPF account like any normal account…to make it more clear if i have certain amount of money then can i deposit it into the epf account for the investment purpose intstead of going for any other option like fd,ppf rd etc,or money in the epf account can be submitted only by salary…if the answer is no..then pls tell me why isnt there any such provision..???

Anand-No you can’t. Only option to incrse is by opting for voluntery monthly contribution. Reason for such restriction may be, EPF is the scheme which backs social responsibility of employer and government. Hence I think they not included this option. If you want the same security of return then why can’t you invest in PPF?

U r too good..urs best quality is u revert back so quick..

Anyways thanks for the answer.

Ok if i go for ppf ..then pls tell me one thing

Suppose i start from August 2013 investing 1 lac per financial year .and if in every next year i submit 1 lac in the month of april between 1st and 5th then my questions are

1) will my maturity date be 31st march 2029..??..if the answer is yes then basically i am paying for 15 complete years and 8 months..isnt it..??

2) What will be the maturity amount…on the maturity??

Considering the present interest rate..

Anand-Thanks.

1) Yes your maturity will be 31st March 2019. Because your account completes 15 years on August 2018. Yes the period you assumed is right.

2) I considered that you are investing this year Rs.1,00,000 in the month of August 2013 (between 1st and 5th day), from next year onward every year between 1st and 5th of April and yearly contribution will be Rs.1,00,000. In this case your maturity amount will be Rs.31,07,951 (considered the current interest rate of 8.7%).

Dear sir,

I have a profit plus plan 188 for the sum assured of 300000. my policy starts from September 2008. My Premium paying term is 5 years( policy term 10 years). my premium payments for this policy will end on September 2013. It is a growth fund of profit plus policy. My present net asset value is 11.5464. So far i have allotted 24160.616 units. how much amount can i get immediately after the end of the last premium payment( September 2013). please give information about the total amount i will receive at the end of 5 years ( that is October 2013).

With regards

Gopa kumar ks

Gopa-After 3 years of completion you can surrender without any extra charge. Considering the values you provided, you may get around Rs.2,78,968 (24160.616*11.5464). To get the exact amount request you to contact your nearest LIC branch.

Good Morning Basu…

As u have said that the maturity amount for FD is also taxable..but i have a doubt ..i have read that the principal amount is not taxable and for interest every year i am paying tax then how the final maturity amount should be taxable…

Few more questions :

1) I read that tax on fd and rd has to be paid on accrual basis also..so how will i calculate them..moreover cant i pay the tax finally when i receive the maturity amount..??

2) Please basu dont get annoyed, i dont get as satisfying answers as yours from anyone else thats why i have so many questions for you..:):)..my next question is.

I was reading about tax saving FDs ..but i concluded that if i am not getting 80c benefits then its almost same as other fds..isn’t it.??

3) who issues the 16 A form …will it be my bank or what..Iwas going through the ITR form ..for income from from other sources they were asking to fill it as per form 16 A ..but i checked my account there was no such form..

Please reply these..

Anand

Anand-1) Your bank will make sure the interest earned on your FD and only interest is taxable but not principal.

2) It’s alright…see there are tax saving FDs and non tax saving FDs…based on your requirement you need to invest. So be clear about investment what you are doing and for what purpose. Yes…if tax saving FDs are not coming under Sec 80C then they are like normal FDs.

3) Your banker will issue form 16A for you.

Thanks..once again..:):)

Anand-Pleasure 🙂

Dear Basu..

I will consider your suggestion..

But as i am new to this investment field..i want to clear all mu fuda…

i have to ask one more thing other than ppfs or rd

and i know u will help me out..

this is regarding fd and rd

1) First thing i want to ask is suppose if in a particular financial year i get an interest of around13000 which is due to savings + fd + rd in the same account then and then only the bank can apply TDS..isn’t it..?? and once TDS isapplied then will i have to pay more tax on it as per my slab ..??..if ur answer is yes then isn’t it too much..??

2) If ur answer is yes then what can be done in that case is one can open fd in separate account so that atleast TDS can be avoided for the accounts but still i have to pay the tax on the interest as per my slab..???..am i right..??

3) If I am right then is there any remedy for this condition..??

Anand…

Anand-My answers are as below.

1) Yes they are supposed to deduct TDS. TDS is currently 10% or 20% (If you don’t provide the PAN details) but it may actually change if you are under highest tax bracket of 30%. So bank deducts 10% TDS then remaining tax implications will be based on your tax bracket. Suppose you are into 30% tax bracket then you need to pay more than what your bank did TDS. Yes it is too much if you consider the post maturity taxation also. Remember that consider each return in terms of real return (inflation adjusted return) and post tax return (return adjusted to your tax rate).

From 1/4/2013 interest earned on savings bank accounts upto Rs.10,000 is exempted under section of 80TTA, above than that will be taxable as in case of Bank FDs.

2) You can avoid TDS but you need to show as the earnings in that particular year while filing income tax in the head of “income from other sources”. So don’t feel that by avoiding TDS you actually avoided the tax implications.

3) No way…it is taxable income. So you need to 🙂

so u are telling me that suppose I fd a particular amount then I have to pay tax on interests earned in each financial year and then after maturity I will have to pay tax on the mature amount. also.if its true then please tell me why since my childhood I have been hearing that fd is a good mode of saving….

Anand-You are wrong. Earned interest is taxable either on yearly base or at end. So not on both ways. It is told so because we Indian feels security is the major concern and ready to sacrifice our investment for that sake (means we are ready to receive a less return or negative real return). Also in olden days apart from such products there are no other investment avenues so our ancestors used to say so. But now it is not so.

Basu..the ppf expert..I need ur help again regarding this..

I bought a jeevan anand policy when I was 23..maturity period is 26 years..

assured sum is 12,00000..premium is around 45k p.a…now a string of questions are there..

1) obviously..what will be the maturity amount.

2) will this maturity amount be taxable..????

3) every year some bonus will be accrued to me…will that be taxable..??

4) as u have told above this is very low yealding project..so what else can I go for ..other than ppf..

5) in jeevan anand whats the meaning of the concept of the insurance till death..means ppl are saying that if I don’t claim the amount after maturity then till death I need not to pay any amount and I will be insured..whats the use of investment when I cant take it back after maturity…please explainnnnnnnnnn…:)

Anand

Anand-My answers are as below.

1) Considering the current trend for the term of 20 years or more bonus we can consider is Rs.47 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured. So total accrued bonus at end will be Rs.14,66,400. So maturity amount will be Rs.12,00,000 (SA)+Rs.14,66,400 (Bonus)=Rs.26,66,400 approximately.

2) Tax Exemption On Maturity Amount of Life Insurance Policy under Section 10(10D) Under the provisions of section 10(10D) of the Income-tax Act, 1961, Maturity/Death claims proceeds of life insurance policy, including the sum allocated by way of bonus on such policy is exempted from income-tax. However any sum (not including the premium paid by the assessee) received under an insurance policy issued on or after the 1st day of April, 2003 in respect of which the premium payable for any of the years during the term of the policy exceeds 20% of the actual capital sum assured and policies issued on or after the 1st day of April 2012 shall be eligible for deduction only to the extent of 10% of the actual capital sum assured.

So in your case sum assured is Rs.12,00,000 and 10% of premium of this will be Rs.1,20,000 which is under the limit of what you actually paying. Hence maturity proceeds are exempt.

3) Bonus will be declared every year…but it will not paid to you untill maturity, early closure or death claims. So no need to bother about yearly taxation on the same.

4) 23 years waiting period…you are young…then why you are looking at safe heavens like PPF…take some calculated risk and start investing in equity mutual funds and see the fruitfull real return after 23 years 🙂

5) See in Jeevan Anand if policy term complete then you receive the maturity proceeds and afterward you have life risk throughout your life to maximum of Rs.5,00,000 without paying extra (like whole life plans). Don’t make it confuse yourself.

Thanks…:):)

Dear Mr Basavraj,

Its been a pleasure going through your article. Explains a lot of things, and definitely clears loads of doubts.

I have taken Jeevan Shree 1(T. No 162) since Feb 2005 when I was 25. Policy Term is 25 years and PPT is 16 years. Premium is Rs 6425 qtly.

I just cannot comprehend what would be the returns like. I shall be highly grateful to u if you can give an insight into the returns on completion of the ploicy term.

I just checked on the website. It shows a vested bonus of 122000/- as on date towards my policy.

Regards,

Animesh

Animesh-Sorry for the delayed reply. Thanks for your kind words 🙂 This is the policy where bonus are guaranteed for the first five years of policy term which is Rs.50 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured. Afterward it will get the bonus as per the rate of LIC and which may change yearly. For you Sum Assured is Rs.5,00,000 and bonus you receive for the first 5 years will be Rs.1,25,000+Rs. 5,00,000 (considered current rate of bonus at Rs.50 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured for remaining 20 years)=Rs.6,25,000 is the bonus+Rs.5,00,000 (Sum Assured)=Rs.11,25,000 will be the total return you can expect from this policy.

What you saw is the accrued bonus from the start to now. But you can’t take it 🙂

Please do consider your decision of continuing this policy as returns are low. But decision is left with you.

Thank you so much Mr Basavraj. You really spilled the beans for me. And I am seriously considering discontinuing this policy. I shall be highly grateful if you could help me out with an alternative investment approach. It’s been a pleasure to hear from you.

Regards,

Animesh

Animesh-Pleasure 🙂 In that case you need to share your all data with me and I need to verify what type of investor you are, what are your financial goals and what the things that are really hurting your financial freedom currently, then I may be in a better position to guide you. To do so you can use my mail id to interact on the same if you are uncomfortable on this public platform.

Hello Basavaraj,

Hope you are doing well!

I am planning to buy life insurance, Can you please suggest me the suitable plan based on below inputs.

I am ready to invest 40-50K/Year & My age is 30 yrs.

I want to go for 10 year policy & sum assured amount is 5 Lakhs.

How much amount I will be receiving after 10 Years & what benefits will be provided during this period?

Thanks in advance,

Narendra

Narendra-Please share why you selected insurance product as investment product, is their any specific goal after 10 years from now, if so what will be the target amount. You are specifying sum assured of Rs.5,00,000 also, so what is the reason behind choosing this much sum assure. If you are not comfortable to share these then you can mail me privately.

Basavaraj-Sorry for making you confusion, let me clear:

Can you please suggest me the suitable policy which will fulfill my below requirement?

If I pay 50 thousand per Annum for 10 years, How much amount will be receiving back? (After 10 yrs.)

And there is no big reason behind this, just want to know the benefits.

Can you please drop your Mail ID or Contact info to [email protected] for further communication (private).

Thank You.

Narendra

Narendra-I don’t see a valid reason for choosing any policy for your investment for the period of 10 years. If you are fully insured then don’t look back towards insurance policies. Even if you choose any debt product then they will give you around 8-9% of return which is not possible with LIC policies for such short period (For LICians 10 years is short period as agents earn less for this period than 15-20 yrs policies). I sent my contact details to the mail check it.

please do tell me about a plan which suits my need of a higher or moderate return and life insurance.

my yearly investment will be around 20000.

Dhiraj-Please let me know your waiting period also.

it will be around 20 to 25 years

still waiting for your suggestion.

Dhiraj-Sorry for delay. In such case, I strongly suggest you to go for term plan of your choice of insurer. But cover to the tune of around 10-12 times of your yearly income. Rest start with monthly SIP in contributing into a well diversified fund. By doing so, your insurance need and your return on investment will both of good compare to going behind any traditional LIC plans.

sorry to disturb you again but having being fooled once i don’t want to go for another ride that’s why i asked you for the specific plan that suits my need.

i my case need means good returns and life cover.

in deciding if you have to choose between good returns and life cover

go for good returns that’s my priority.

please be specific about the plan , company ,time period etc because having no experience in about it .

it will be easier for me to understand.

Dhiraj-If you want any specific name about product then please mail me personally. Reason is, I am not attached with any product nor this platform is meant to push any particular product. If I name any particular product to buy then it may show as if this platform is meant for selling. Hence request you to mail me.

HI Basavaraj Tonagatti ,

Hope you are dining well !!!

it is hard to understand the formulas to calculate this maturity amout

i have taken a policy for 20 years annually i am paying 35000.

And one of the agent is saying i will get 220000 at the time maturity and other one is saying i will get 100000.

Which one is correct?

Waiting for your help 🙂

Anuj-Please do let me know the name of the plan, your age at the time of taking policy, premium you are paying, date of commencement, term of the policy and sum assured you opted then I will be in a better position to calculate. Do you share this please?

hello

I have taken a LIC Jeevan Anand (plan 149) policy.

Policy term is 25 years and i pay premium annually rs.20250

the policy started this year in January 2013. Sum Assured = Rs .500000

my age when i took policy = 25 years

and the policy matures in year 2038.

i m bit confused right now about these three question

1 :- What will be the maturity amount i will get in year 2038.

2:- is this policy better or Jeeva Saral.

3:- my agent told me that after maturity i don’t have to pay premium and the policy will go on till death but if i choose to surrender or not want to continue the policy anytime after maturity i will get a lump sum amount of around rs 310000 or 62% of the sum assured (500000). is this true ?

CAN ANYONE HELP ME ? PLEASE.

Dhiraj Kumar-

1) Considering the bonus current trend which is Rs.47 per Rs.1,000 Sum Assured per year, we may predict the bonus to you as Rs.5,87,500. With this amount you also receive Rs.5,00,000 sum assured. Hence total you will receive Rs.10,87,500 after 25 years.

2) Considering your long period of investment (25 years), in my view both the policies will not even beat the inflation rate. Hence both are not good for long term with better return expecting investors. You just see the return on investment from the above calculation which is around 5.64%. So both are of low yielding products.

3) You have life risk coverage of Rs.5,00,000 after maturity too and you can encash it but exactly I dont have any idea how your agent is explaining you. Because about this LIC have no information published. Hence it is not a good way to say what your agent told is right or wrong. Better you authenticate about this claim from your agent.

hi,

i have taken jevan saral policy(165) although i took it i am still lil bit confuse as to what all benifits i will get in return,

Let me give you all the details first,

* my quaterly premium is 1499 plus some accidental denifit premium 31 so total quaterly premium is 1531.

* next it staes term as 19

* Maturity sum assured says as 130550

My age when i took the plociy – 25 years

Last date of premium is in 2031

My questions

1. is the sum assured as above will be payed to me in 2031?

2. if not can you let me know the amount i will get in 2031?

3.If 1st answer is no , then let me know the sum that i will get in 10th or 15th or 20th year please?

Yogesh-Below are my answers.

1) Sum Assured is the risk LIC will take and if something happens to your life during the policy period your nominee will receive this policy if policy is in continue mode (means not lapsed).

2) In this policy you receive Maturity Sum Assured (Rs.1,30,550)+Loyalty Addition.

3) a-for 10 years period-Rs.55,605 (MSA)+Loyalty Addition Rs.13,901=Rs.69,506.

b-for 15 years period-Rs.97,655 (MSA)+Rs.48,827=Rs.1,46,482

c-for 20 years perio-Rs.1,39,070(MSA)+Rs.1,04,302=Rs.2,43,372

Just look at returns for all years, they are below 7%. Now think and decide yourself.

Hello,

I have taken a Jeevan Saral Policy in 2010 July. At that time I was aged 24 years. My Policy term is 25 years. The premium I pay is Rs.15000/- Quarterly (Rs.60,000/- Yearly). The Sum Assured mentioned in my Policy Bond is Rs. 12,50,000/- . I would like to know how much I would receive after 25 years during my Policy Maturity. ( I am confused why the sum assured is Rs.12,50,000/-?? Should it not be Rs.60,000 * 25 years = 15,00,000/-?

Kindly let me know please.

Thanks in advance!

Gayathri-First thing I need to clear you is, in this policy sum assured is based on monthly premium you pay. So your monthly premium is Rs.5,000 hence 250 times of your monthly premium will be the sum assured available which is Rs.12,50,000 but not Rs.15,00,000 what you calculated yourself. Now coming to return on this plan, maturity sum assured which you receive from this plan and which is guaranteed is Rs.18,24,400. Now addition to this return, you also receive loyalty addition. Currently for 10 and 11 yrs term of policies Rs.250 and Rs.300 respectively. If we consider the same trend for 25yrs policies then it will be Rs.1,450 per Rs.1,000 maturity sum assured. So in your case your maturity sum assured is Rs.18,24,400. So total LA receivable to you is Rs.26,45,380. Hence total receivable from this plan is Rs.18,24,400+Rs.26,45,380=Rs.44,69,780. Please do remember that only maturity sum assured is fixed but not LA (which in your case i consider according to current LA trend). So return on investment will be 7.61%. Now is it worth or not decide yourself. Considering the current inflation and what will be the future value of this Rs.44.69,780.

plz help i took jivan saral plan premium 3062/- qut. basis ! i saw in promotional doc. that it will give me 219000/- on maturity but when got policy document i found that some assured is just 113800/- (i paid 3062*4*10yr=122480/-) and about bonus not single word is meintion so hw to know about my plan ????????????

term is 10 yr what i will rec in final ??????????

Ajay-Request you to raise this doubt by comment on my new post title “LIC’s Jeevan Saral-Why so much confusion?“

Sir, My age is 32 years. I have invested Rs.36000/- per year in the plan no. 14 (endowment policy with profits) for a term of 21 years on a sum assured of Rs.7,00,000/- at this age. Could you please say me the approximate amount i will get on maturity

1405600

Lipika-Yes what Arun commented is correct. Return on investment is 5.7%.

Arun’s figure is correct on the basis of latest bonus rate and that LIC’s past record is somewhat consistent. If we add FAB to it it comes to Rs. !4,12,600/-. However,what I wish to say here Basavraj, is we can’t determine ROR in this case.Imagin that a person of age 15 and another person of age 50 also purchased the same policy with Lipika, with similar PPT and same Sum assured.These two persons will get the same amount on maturity as will Lipika. However a person aged 15 will have invested Rs.29,000/- per year, whereas the person aged 50 will have invested Rs.42,000/- per year.Thus all the three will get the same amount but there invested amounts will be different hence their return on investment in %age will be different.

Sandeep-I agree the difference a younger buyer to older especially in insurance products. But I did calculations based on the information provided. It is not generic.

First of all, thanks for such an informative article, really helped go beyond the LIC word-web. I have a query, and would be very grateful if you could answer it. Do we get the Guaranteed Additions when we surrender a policy after the mandatory period of 3 years is over? Specifically, I hold a Jevan Shree-1 since 2007 and have paid regular premiums till now (24 premiums). But now I am thinking about surrendering the policy. Could you give me a rough estimate of how much can I expect? I’ve been paying 6000 quarterly for a sum assured of 5 Lakhs. Thanks in advance.

Shivam-Yes you will get GA in case of surrender too. Regarding the current valuation of your policy, it depends on the term you opted, when you are surrendering. Also their is a formula to calculate surrender value. So I can’t say you how much you get (approximately) if you surrender now. Hence request you to visit your nearest LIC branch and you will get the exact amount immediately.

Hi, could you also explain me how the bonus amount for this Jeevan Saral Policy has been calculated in Scenario 1 and Scenario 2 as per the below link. It states that the calculation has been performed at 6% and 10% respectively. But I don’t get that. http://www.licindia.in/endowment_005_illustration.htm

Shalabh-According to IRDA guidelines Insurance companies need to show the INDICATIVE RETURNS which is fixed as minimum 6% and maximum 10%. But do remember that these are indicative which are not at all mandatory to give you returns. Hence just for calculation purpose these are done not only for Jeevan Saral but all policies. But when look at real values of bonus and LA then the actual picture will emerge. Hope you got clarification 🙂

sir, what u say about jeevan saral and jeevan anand ,which is good?? according to return,

Geet-In my view both are low yielding products. If you are so fond of both products then restrict your investment to the tune of around 10% of your overall portfolio.

please send me a soft copy of LIC Circuler of Bonus Rates at my email address is [email protected]

Sanjeev-Done

Dear All,

just need to ur advice…

I recently bought the LIC Jeevan anand (149), with the premium of 42000 P.A. and sum assrued of Rs. 1 Lakh only.

Im quite new to these, so dont knw much, hw cn I actully calculate my bonus points and wht exactly sum assured really means.

couple of days back, I recd. a call frm LIC, mentioning on the policy there is some bonus which is being credited to your dealer and if I want to claim that I need to take another policy of this much amount… thw the call appears to me a fake one..

Ankur-Premium of Rs.42,000 PA and Sum Assured just Rs.1,00,000? Seems missing something. Can you provide the term of the policy and age at the time of policy start? LIC will never call saying bonus is credited to dealer. Yes it seems some fake call.

Dear Basu & Prashant, I think both of you have got it wrong, if you don’t mind my saying so. Under without profit plans there will be no bonus or GA payable to you and on the date of maturity, only the sum assured will be paid. Under term insurance plans nothing is payable if the insured person lives upto maturity date and such plans are called non-participating policies as they are not reckoned at the time of valuation of surplus. With-profit plans are participating policies as they participate in surplus valuation and until recently 95% of the surplus was distributed as bonus to all with-profit policyholders and 5% was being given to Govt of India as its share of surplus, for the Rs.5 crores contributed by the the Govt way back in 1956 at the time of nationalisation of LIC. This 5% is sought to be revised now to 10% and 90% of the surplus getting distributed to the policyholders. Thank you.

This may be acceptable and I am changing the wordings for the same. Thanks for sharing this.

With profit or participating plan means the policyholder will get a share or the profit. If the company makes loss no profit will be there to share. But in case of guaranteed additions even if the company is at a loss it has to pay the GA.

Sanjeev-Correct 🙂

Dear Basu,Prashant,Balagopal and Sanjeev,I wish to sum up all the discussions as follows: There are broadly two types of plans:

I) Non Participating Plans – Plans which have no Maturity Sum Assured, needless to say no share in surplus either.

II) Participating Plans – Plans which have some Maturity Sum Assured, which may or may not be the same as Death Sum Assured (Eg: Jeevan Saral ).There are further 3 categories under Participating Plans:

A).Plans with Guaranteed Additions – Whatever the results of the company this portion is paid to this type of policy holders.In case there is profit, after paying 10% to the Govt., from the remaining portion of the surplus amount the amount of guaranteed addition is paid first. In case of loss, this amount will have to be paid from reserves.A company which does not have good profit history or does not have adequate reserves will not introduce Guaranteed Addition Plans.

B).With Profit Plans- These policy holders get the share of surplus from the sum after deductiong guaranteed addition portion in the form of Bonus / LA / FAB etc.

C).Without Profit Plans- These policy holders get only Maturity Sum Assured.

Does that wrap it all?

Sandeep-Excellent. But slight modification, without profit plans means Sum Assured not Maturity Sum Assured. Examples of such plans are Term Insurance.

In LIC their are basically two type of plans either With Profit Plans or Without Profit Plans. First we will look at what do you mean by without profit plans. These are the plans where you not get any benefit on maturity but if policy holder dies during that policy period then his nominee will get the Sum Assured he opted. Pure term plans of LIC such as Anmol Jeevan and Amulya Jeevan are such without profit plans.

Sir, if you don’t mind,Your answer is totally wrong

with profit policy means in which bonuses are declare every years ie. endowment, money back,whole life policy

and without profit policy means where guaranteed addition are given .ie. Jeevanshri,Komal Jeewan etc

Prashant-If we go with LIC wordings of differentiation then I might be wrong. But my whole intention was to diversify the policies between Insurance+Investment and pure Insurance. Keeping that in mind I wrote those lines. Do you feel wrong to say “Guaranteed Addition” plans as without profit plans? Is their no profit in such GA plans?