LIC’s new plans 2014-New Endowment Plan (No.814)

Today LIC launched one more new plan which is the new version of the old Endowment Plan (No.14). As this is the new version of existing plan, I am just updating the changes.

LIC's New Endowment Plan

So what is new to customers?

Apart from surrender, death benefit and loan changes, I don’t think any major changes. Premium table is not yet available. So it is premature whether this new plan is cheaper or not. But as it is traditional plan and only revamped to match the new IRDA guidelines, I am maintaining the status quo of recommendation “STAY AWAY”.

 

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  1. Rajinder Singh BhatiaRajinder Singh Bhatia says

    Sir,

    LIC agent has given me a New policy NEW ENDOWMENT PLAN with profits in November, 2014. I have paid one annual premium amounting to Rs. 20180/- approx. I will not continue this policy in future. Kindly advice the procedure how I can surrender the policy at the earliest please. The LIC agent has not given any rebate of Annual Premimum.

    Rajinder Singh Bhatia
    Research Officer, Govt. of Haryana

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Rajinder-There is no surrender value if you paid less than 3 years of premium. Simple to stop is to forget this product and no need to pay furutre premiums. Giving or expecting a rebate in insurance industry is exactly like giving or expecting a bribe. So it is legally not correct.

  2. M H ABUBAKKAR says

    sir,
    MY FRIEND BOUGHT NEW ENDOWMWNT PLAN 814 ON 01/09/2014 FOR THE SUM ASSURED 425000/=FROM LIC..HIS MONTHLY PREMIUM IS 3400.HE PAID 4 MONTHS PREMIUM TILL DECEMBER 2014 BUT SUDDENLY HE EXPIRED ON 23/01/2015 DUE TO SUDDEN HEART ATTACK.CAN THE NOMINEE CLAIM THE DEATH BENEFIT?LIC AGENT TOLD THEM DEATH CLAIM IS NOT POSSIBLE.IS ANY WAITING PERIOD FOR DEATH CLAIM IN THIS POLICY.?WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE TO DEATH CLAIM? WHAT DOCUMENT IS NECCESSARY.
    PL.ADVISE ME

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Abubakkar-Life risk starts on the same day when LIC issues policy. No matter whether a day or two. So it is very much within rule. Your agent suggesting false information, because he don’t want this headache on him. Usually when policy holder dies within 3 years of taking new policy then such policies are called early claims. So LIC do a bit more scrutiny. That is the reason agent suggesting such false information. Contact branch immediately and submit the necessary documents. Orignal LIC Bond, Death Certificate and Claim Form (available with LIC branch). But for lengthy requirement of forms, contact LIC branch immediately.

  3. Vishal KumarVishal Kumar says

    Hi,

    I had purchased this new endowment plan 814. My annual premium is 24000 and sum assured is 500000 for policy term 20 years. Can you tell what will be the matured amount ?

    I also want to know how can I insured myself so that in case of unexpected incidence my family wouldn’t suffer. And if I survive upto maturity it should return good value.

    Thanks in advance.

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Vishal-Why you purchased this policy? Returns from this policy will be around 5%. You can insure your life easily by purchasing online term plans. But such insurance policies not provide any return if you survive.

      • Vishal KumarVishal Kumar says

        Thanks for your reply, the agent was my friend so I trusted him and did what he said. Anyways nothing can be done with it. Can you please tell me some good term insurance plans whose settlement ratio is good enough. Because suppose if I died due to any reason then the cause of taking this insurance should full fill.

        One more thing does these online term insurance plan covers any kind of death(like from diseases, accidental, death by commiting suicides, murderd).

        Please let me know these also.

  4. PriyankaPriyanka says

    Sir

    I read ur blog regularly……..and come to know my all future investments ruin my financial life…….will get return 6-7% only. Pls help me to invest in better plan

    I have lic Jeevan saral date of commencement 29sep 2010
    Can I surrender after 5 yrs…….will I get 100% paid premium I am paying 15312/qtly

    I have endowment plan 814….started on 25 July 2014…….after reading ur blog …come to know both r not good investments ……can I surender this pla also

    I have invest on these plan for my daughters future Jeevan saral for my first daughter …..814 for my second daughter

    With ur guidance my planning to take term insurance …….actually after my father death I had gone through vry bad time I don’t want same thing with my kids…..want to secure their future

    Even I don’t know M of mutual fund……no idea abt investment in mutual fund
    Can I mail u all my investments detail on ur email id [email protected]………so u can suggest better investment option for my future…..
    I want lumpsum amt 70-80lac after 20yrs
    Sorry for bothering you again n again but pls help me I am vry grateful to u.
    Thanks
    Priyanka

  5. SunilSunil says

    First let me give you some idea on my position:

    Earning : 5 Lakhs/ Annum
    Age : 26 year
    Loan : 50K/year (Only two installment left-2016 and 2017)

    I haven’t invested in any plan yet but seriously looking for 3 things now:

    1. Tax savings (2nd priority)
    2. Personal savings (1st priority)
    3. Life insurance benefits (3rd priority)

    I really don’t have idea on how to invest as very recently I have entered into Software industry.

    It would be very helpful if you advise me how to start investing, where and how much.

  6. GAURAVGAURAV says

    Hi, I need your kind assistance in planning my financial life ahead. Salary 10lac/month. Right now I’m 32 year old with one SBI life policy (45k), ing money back policy (55k), Jeevan Anand policy (47k), 2 home loans (30+10k) emi. Plz suggest me for short term n long term investment with good return along with tax saving benefit.
    Thanks in advance.

  7. RAHULRAHUL says

    Hi,

    Found your blogs genuine.I appreciate your effort.
    I am Rahul from Odisha .i plan to invest 63000/- per annum in LIC NEW ENDOWMENT PLAN(814) FOR 30 YEARS.
    Sum assured is 20 lacs , and as per agent i would get maturity benefit of around 60 lacs(SA+BONUS+FINAL BONUS).
    ACCIDENTAL DEATH BENEFIT IS 40 LAKS.
    i have taken a housing loan of 30 lacs which makes me take this plan as a insurance against loan .
    Initially i planned for Term Plan .However i found it a plain wastage of the paid premiums.
    What are your views o this .Do i have any other option.
    Kindly suggest.eagerly waiting for your reply .

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Rahul-First point to say is, your agent is claiming wrong maturity amount. He exaggerated the amount to tilt you towards this plan. So stay away from this. Second point is, you are buying insurance means think of what will happen to your dependents in case of your absent. Ideal insurance coverage should be 15-20 times of yearly income+any loan. So will be able to buy this much insurance from this plan by paying hefty premium? Think and decide. You move of saying term insurance premium is waste, is completely wrong concept.

      • RAHULRAHUL says

        Sir,
        The agent says an endowment plan is a basic necessity, just like PPF, FDs etc.

        If i think of buying term insurance plan (15 -20 times of my basic salary) at some later stage, say after 5 years,that would not change the premium amount by a huge margin because it is annual premium(monthly increment in insignificant) .However If i delay buying this endowment plan , i may never be able to buy it in future.

        Kindly suggest, or are u saying that i should not go for endowment plan at all???.If not, then what is the alternative ,
        Best regards, Thanks for reply.

        • RAHULRAHUL says

          Sir
          1)In the long term , Government will always have a tendency to lower the rate of interest from PPF , FDs , because it is a liability for them plus they may obtain the required money from FDI etc.How advisable is it then to invest money in these instruments.

          2)20 lakhs sum assured
          +
          rupees 50(bonus)*2000(per thousand)*30(term)=30 lakhs
          +
          400(likely future value)*2000=8 lakhs

          =58 lakhs .
          This is how i got the figure(close to 60 lakhs)

          3)Instruments like PPF etc are more liquifiable than insurance savings, so practically it may not be that easy to save rupees 1000/- for RD , or say , not be tempted to withdraw money from PPF,break FDs.

          Kindly suggest Sir, what should I do?

          • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

            Rahul-Nothing is constant or GUARANTEED. But based on your goal you need to invest. Do you feel the LIC will provide you the consistent Rs.50 bonus to you? Also have you calculated the return on investment for this Rs.20 lakh sum assured LIC?

        • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

          Rahul-Take my example. I am surviving without Endowment and PPF. So do you feel I am in danger zone? In what way agent claiming that it is basic necessity? Strange to hear. For your information if you delay any insurance (whether it is Endowment or Term Insurance) your Insurance cost will raise as you grow older. So first buy term plan. Nothing is universally proven that one must have this product or that product. So understand your requirement then choose a product based on that.

  8. hemahema says

    Hi i need your help i have started a LIC endowment plan with annual premium of 32500 with tax 35 years term. i saw a maturity calculator showing for this amt i will get 60,00,000 lakhs amt . is that true.. now only i came to know that PPF is giving better returns than LIC.

    i started it on november 8 my 15 days is also got over. is it possible to get back the money in any way.
    what shall i do now
    i putting this for my retirement. feeling highly disappointed

  9. Sunil .Sunil . says

    Hi Basavaraj,

    I have availed new end or entity policy from LIC, Annual premium is 44k, for the tenor of 20 years.
    my agency person told me I will get 17 Lacs sum assured amount, but in the policy agreement it has mentioned basic sum assured as 8 Lacs, when I asked him , he said I will get annual bonus for the premium which will give me 17 l he said…

    kindly clarify me , will I get the 17 l or the mentioned basic sum assured ..

    • Sunil .Sunil . says

      It’s new endowment policy with profit… also suggest me some of the other child education plan which will give me good returns for 20 years.

      kindly let me knw the plan name & the insurance company name

  10. Manoj TiwariManoj Tiwari says

    Hi Basu,

    This is Manoj Tiwari from Mumbai , i have been looking out for good mutual fund or ELSS plan which will return me a good maturity amount. I am planning to invest minmum for 5 years with the aim of generating lump sum amount for buying a house. can you please suggest me which mutual fund i should invest and which will provide me good maturity amount after 5 years. i did inquired about SIP but they are not going to help me out as i need lump sum amount after 5 years..can you please help me out here.

    Many Thanks in advance.

    Regards
    Manoj
    Manoj

      • Manoj TiwariManoj Tiwari says

        Hi Basu,

        Thanks for the above reply.

        If you can help me out with proper time lines and guidance that would be a great help to me. I said minimum 5 years , as i dont have much info about it. Please help me out with the fund names and term to invest in it.

        I am planning to invest around 8k to 10k per month into mutual funds. Please treat me as a fresher and advise, The above one liner is not helping me at all :(

        Appreciate your assistance

        Kind Regards
        Manoj

  11. Amit GhoshAmit Ghosh says

    Sir,

    I have just started New Endowment Plan (No- 814) of LIC, paid one quarterly premium Rs. 12294. My Annual premium comes Rs. 49176 for the premium paying term -15 years. The sum assured is Rs700000. At present my age is 37 years. At the age of 52, the policy would be matured.

    Actually, i have opted this policy for the investment purpose. Can u please guide me the approx amount, which i get from this policy on maturity?

    Thanks and regards,
    Amit Ghosh

  12. vinodvinod says

    Some body suggest me about lic new endowment plan table 814 as child plan and as per the illustration it seems its giving more than 9% return per annum.

    Plz suggest me if it really give this much return or suggest me any other way to invest for my son future.

  13. TusharTushar says

    Hello Basavaraj,

    My wife wants to invest in a plan which will give the benefit similar to a LIC’s Money Back – 20 years (Plan No. 820) or which is somewhat on the lines of Lic New Jeevan Anand…I am myself not convinced with both citing the IRR on both but it is very difficult to convince her. Can you suggest some investment avenue where these requirements can be met???

    Regards
    Tushar

  14. AbhijitAbhijit says

    Hi ,

    i am alread investing in new Bima gold policy 20K per year.

    now i am planning to invest 20K more to save Tax and get returns, i was thinking about Jeevan Anand or new Endowment plan.

    Can you please help me with this.

    thanks,
    Abhijit

      • AbhijitAbhijit says

        Thank you for your responce…can you please advise me someting how i should invest this amout so i can get returns.

        i would like to have some issurance coverd for my famil in case of unfortunate incidence.

        Please provide me some option so i can go for it.

        Thanks Again.
        Abhijit

        • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

          Abhijit-First buy a term plan to cover around 15-20 times of your yearly income. Rest you need to decide based on when you need money. Like short term goals means secured product and for long term, you can choose equity.

          • AbhijitAbhijit says

            i am looking for 8 to 10 year, but if there are some option in short term i wil be happy to go for as i can use that returns to buy house.

            Also i am looking for tax saving plan ..

            can you give me some option and recommend some option which i should opt for.

            Thanks,
            Abhijit

              • AbhijitAbhijit says

                Hi Basvraj,

                i can wait for 8 to 10 yrs and keep on investing at the same time i need option for tax saving.

                keeping this goal in mind , can you please help me out.

                Thanks,
                Abhijit

                • AbhijitAbhijit says

                  Hi Basvraj,

                  Let me give you some idea on m expenses and saving that might give you idea .
                  i earn 10L/Annum . i am 28 yrs old

                  Falt: Loan 20 Lac Paying 20K/Month for 20 yrs
                  Money back Bima Goald: 20K/Annum from last 4 yrs.
                  PPF: 50K started this year.
                  Planning to buy term plan for 20 yrs which can give me more than 50L as per your earlier advise.

                  i really don’t have idea on how to invest in mutal fund and i need to save my income tax also . But i am intrested in mutual fund or equity

                  it woul be very helfull if you advise me how to start investing and where.

                  thanks,
                  Abhijit

                • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

                  Abhijit-Then my answer is-Term Insurance, PPF (around 30%), Bank FDs (20% as it’s maturity is only 5 years) and rest ELSS (once lock in of 3 years complete, you can continue with the same fund if it is performing well or divert to other funds) and EPF. Hope by these options your tax saving requirement will get fulfilled.

                  • AbhijitAbhijit says

                    thank you Basvraj….i am sorry but really don’t know what is ELSS , can you please tell me what is this and how to invest in it.

                    Sorry for bothering you again and again but i really find your blogs helpfull and geniun.

                    • AbhijitAbhijit says

                      thank you Basvaraj…i went through your blog and selected following 3 options i can ivest 30K per year on this, can you please see if these option looks ok to you and how much i should invest in each.

                      ICICI Prudential focused bluechip equity (G)
                      Franklin india Blue chip fund (G)
                      Reliance quity opportunity (G)

  15. Sridhar KesarajuSridhar Kesaraju says

    Hello

    I’m looking for a LIC Policy and the agent has suggested me the plan New Endowment (Plan No. – 814). Is this the best policy and beneficial for me? As I’m looking for the long term, tax benefit, and good returns. I’m planning to invest 24,000 thousand per annum. Please suggest if you have some other plans as well.

    Thanks

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Sridhar-In my view it only fulfill your tax benefit and long term requirement. But it fails to give you good return over long period. Why can’t you opt for term plan and invest rest in simple product like PPF, which will give you more return and same tax benefit in long run?

      • Sridhar KesarajuSridhar Kesaraju says

        Thanks Basunivesh! I’m also investing in PPF. But here in this policy I am looking for the returns after the maturity of the plan. Can you please suggest some best plan in this regard? As you suggested one of the best plan LIC’s Jeevan Anand in your blog, can I go for it, does it suit my requirement?

        Once again thanks for your valuable suggestions!

        Sridhar K

        • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

          Sridhar-Whatever plan you consider from traditional category, your return will be around 7%. Hence Jeevan Anand is best only if you restrict your investment to around 15% to 20% of overall investable surplus. Otherwise it will ruin your financial life.

          • Sridhar KesarajuSridhar Kesaraju says

            OK Thanks Basunivesh. Let me tell you the actual thing, I didn’t invest in any of the policies or any other savings plan to save from the Tax deductions from my salary. All these 4 years, I was just paying the tax and didn’t save anything, since I do have some other commitments. Now I realized that I need to do some investment for the purpose of saving at least some amount of tax (not completely) and in return I should get returns after the maturity of the policy. So I request you to suggest me a good plan if any suit my requirement. Thanks for your kind replies.

  16. SusheelSusheel says

    Hi Basavaraj Tonagatti

    can u please tell me in easy terms …
    e.g i wan to invest 40000 Annually till 21 years then how much i will get after 21 years..

    :)

  17. HasitHasit says

    Hello Sir,

    I am insurance agent of THE ORIENTAL INSURANCE CO. LTD. & LIC OF INDIA.
    At present i sale most of JIVAN ANAND policy.

    Your site are really use full for saleing insurance product.

    I wish to start new business of providing loan from bank to needy persons, so how can i start my new business.?

    Please provide me guide lines.

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Hasit-Thanks for your comment. Bud sadly, I am not writing this blog to upgrade the business. Instead you are welcome to share your knowledge with all of us. Learn, share and you are always welcome.

  18. shanthakumarshanthakumar says

    sir , can you please explain table no 817 -Endowment – single premium returns details .for example if am taking 1 lalkh sum assured . for 15 years

  19. Murari Lal Jha says

    Sir, In the light of new shedule of policies what is the position of Endowment assurance
    with profit with DAB . We having 2 policies of 5 lac.since last 2/13. These should keep continue or stop or any option. Please suggest. thanks ML Jha

  20. invest4futureplans says

    Hi…
    This is srinivas LIC advisor from Bangalore. Please wait upto this month end will get full details and also premium calculation, comparission of old product to new one, Benefits, Service tax impact, returns orianted questions and Mortality rates etc.

  21. divya says

    You can have a look at premium table here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=forums&srcid=MDE2MTUwODIyNjc0MjM4NjM3NzEBMTAyNDA2MTUxOTkyNjA2MTEyNzUBSXgzTk04YU5EYzhKATQBAXYy

    Unless I have really overlooked a major point all LIC agents who were saying LIC policy will be costly were right. Add 3.09% to the amount to get the premium. There are some rebates that you are already aware of but these rebates have been cut down compared to last year.
    I myself had speculated that premium will be cheaper hence stand corrected. I am still confused what happened to the new mortality table. I am waiting for details to trickle down to me on mortality table.

    We had already debated earlier I still maintain diversification is the key and I will not advice to totally “STAY AWAY”

    Last time I did not counter your 5-6% return assumption of LIC, please correct if you see anything wrong here.

    Sample: 30 year old sum assured Rs 500000/- , Term 25 years, Annual premium Rs 18900/-.

    Maturity value at today’s rate = Rs. 1325000/- (Bonus Rs 48/- per thousand and Final Additional Bonus Rs. 450/- per thousand.)

    RATE/IRR: 8%

    Use the Excel Function Rate like this =RATE([@Term],(-1*[@Premium]),0,[@[TOTAL Mat]])
    = RATE(25,-18900,0,1325000)

    Alternatively you can use IRR excel function you will get same result.

    • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

      Divya-Let us first come to know the clear picture about the premium table then we can discuss. Also one way or another way LIC is paying the service tax (before it was from LIC now from investor itself). So I don’t think it will impact to that extent and this additional payout from the investor will be reflected when return from LIC will be higher than the current. Coming to return what you calculated, based on your data it provides me 7.7%. Insurance premiums will always be paid in advance. So you start playing today and will end up till 25 years. But return will be in the beginning of 26th year. If done in this way, returns still hover around 7%. Investing for such long term (25 years) and being satisfied with less than 8%, still feel good? As you said earlier, we can treat it as a diversifying tool. But the question is, how many agents have skill to guide client about diversification?

          • ganeshganesh says

            Hi,
            I am ganesh from chennai. I have planned to take new endowment policy 814 in LIC. I choose the options for yearly i will pay 69971 and agent told as like as after 15 yrs i will get 23,34,812. So I request you to send details and how much amt for maturity and this plan is how to based on calculation for maturity?. That agent said it is not based on share marketing. so this plan is good for future and surely i will get the maturity amount(ie 23.34.812).i am waiting for your favourable reply as soon as possible.

            Thanks,
            Ganesh.

            • Basavaraj Tonagatti says

              Ganesh-Without knowing the SA and Term how can I arrive at the maturity value. Also if it is not participating in the market means how you decided that this plan is good? What if after 15 years this plan gives you just around 6% return?

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